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Sep 20, 2020 2:53 PM

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looks like Edamura is gonna go against the plan. the whole sentimentality with leader lady's son and the necktie probably pushed him over. i'm sure Laurent did this whole thing probably in good faith, like a loving memory for Dorothy, but revenge stories usually don't end well
Sep 23, 2020 10:31 AM

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Damn the atmosphere in this entire episode was really heavy. I'm really worried, hope Edamura doesn't pull some crap. Whatever he's upto I hope he's got everyones well being in his mind.
Sep 24, 2020 10:24 PM
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yep Edamura will ruin the plan for sure but this arc is called the Wizard of the Far East so i guess Edamura will replace his father as the next Wizard Con Artist that Edamura will make a better plan
Sep 27, 2020 9:24 AM

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Soooo ... both are going to pay money to each other while trying to kill each other. With the killing that might actually work ... while the con artists take all the money. (200 billion yen is a lot in dollars.)

I wonder if the necktie might have had some tracking device added to it. Or some mic to listen on the conversation Edamama has.

Weird that just with the translation this was possible ... if anoyne knew at least a few words of the other language they might have noticed something was off.
Sep 28, 2020 1:07 AM

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Damn, I am worried. Hopefully Edamura doesn't do some crazy shit, well he's known to do some crazy shit so let's see what happens.
Oct 4, 2020 5:36 AM

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Man, they're kind of hinting that Edamame will backstab them but then again, he may and may not at the same time. I know that doesn't make sense but I think he'll carry on with the plan but in his own way? If that makes any sense.

I would be pleasantly surprised if Edamame has the balls to betray all the conmen in the series. I'm guessing he misses his mom and sees yakuza mama as a surrogate mother.
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Oct 4, 2020 12:24 PM

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Good episode so far. Edamura looks to be at the end of his rope same with Laurent.
Edamura, Laurent please don't do anything to rash.
This episode was mostly prep for the big day but like one comment said atmosphere was thick as hell.

Two episodes left baby lets see how they rap it up.
Oct 12, 2020 2:46 PM
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Makato is definitely gonna stray from the plan since Kaichou is like his second family. Oz had a valid reason for abandoning the family, but makoto can’t trust him. Wonder what the alternative plan is gonna be that will give the con team a happy ending. The ghost of Dorothy also haunts Laurent, so I wonder if that will play a part as well....
Oct 13, 2020 12:08 PM

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What's a death sentence without some foreshadowing of plans for Edamura, but that's for the best to continue the big plan to topple the Japanese and Shanghai mafia gangs without his knowledge as a showman.

The ONLY outlier I'm worried about now is Edamura and how his action plans will deviate from the original plan of Laurent's to seed confusion and mislead them off, to final nail to the coffin to put an end to all of this.

For self or for loyalty, is the question of Edamura.
Nov 30, 2020 1:26 PM
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So Abby and Cythia aren't dead. Well, kinda expecting that, but still nice to know. They really should tell Edamura about this, before despair make him do something stupid, like giving up on his values and participating in child trafficking.

Poor Laurent, he missed Dorothy so much he hallucinates.

That translation scene... They were very lucky that their bosses didn't know each other languages.

"You can speak english now"
*speaks japanese*
Because f... logic.
Well, if you can't tell the difference between english and japanese, you really need a translator, and a good one.
Modified by korsarz, Nov 30, 2020 1:47 PM
Dec 7, 2020 11:36 AM

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Dec 7, 2020 3:50 PM

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Edamura's easily the most interesting character in this arc. Who knows what he's got planned, especially since Akemi Suzaku's treated him almost like family ever since the fake shootout of Cynthia, Abigail and his father. He's also been used a ton by Laurent and lied to constantly by everyone around him, so in the end, he just is gonna do what he wants to do. Pawn might turn to the king for this game.
Dec 9, 2020 12:00 AM

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Well I think thing's aro gonna end well for Laurent, even if Edamura feels betrayed by the team, he won't screw up the plan
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Dec 10, 2020 5:45 AM

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So when Abi and Chyntia were shot and fell into the sea, Shi-won had already dived under the sea and brought them aboard Laurent.
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Dec 29, 2020 3:02 PM

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So all the jobs that Laurent has taken Makoto on up to this point were just leading up to this big payoff? For his own personal revenge? What a manipulative bastard.
Jan 10, 8:14 PM

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Let's shit on Makoto and mess with his psyche to the point of (almost) no return - The Anime
Jan 11, 1:35 PM

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Wait, is this anime so underrated there isn't an Episode 23 (end) discussion? What have I missed?!
Jan 14, 9:18 PM

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Yeah I can't help but feel that Edamame's gonna deviate from the plan somehow. The guy wears his heart on his sleeve, after all!
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Jan 29, 2:12 PM

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Very good episode and great development of plan, the final 2 episodes are gonna be very interesting to watch
Feb 18, 7:32 PM
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God damn, I love this anime so fucking much.
Feb 20, 11:10 AM

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I have a feeling that something bad is going to happen. I feel a betrayal or someone is going to die for real.
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