| It makes me uncomfortable. Hentai or not. And a lot of yaoi being rapey is such a waste tbh |
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If you don't like rapey stories and humor stay away from yaoi. |
| I have a no-drop policy (with the exception of series I literally can't find, hence involuntary-drops), and I just voluntarily dropped my first manga due to male rape. Gakuen Ouji attempted to play up male rape for laughs, and honestly it was just insanely creepy. I only lasted three chapters before I put the book down and added it to my "donate" pile. Just because it's a guy doesn't mean it's okay. |
Mirai said: I never got into Yaoi because of such shit.One guy just forces his way onto the other.It is so forced and I can't get what fujos find good about it.Can we get actual romances like Given or Dokyuusei?It makes me uncomfortable. Hentai or not. And a lot of yaoi being rapey is such a waste tbh On the topic.I agree with OP.The clips he has shown proves his point.I haven't encountered a single male rape thou except when Donovan raped Gut's poor arse.I find rape whether male or female to be quite disgusting.Unless it have some profound impact on characters or story it shouldn't be included for any kind of shock value. |
DonutSim said: EndlessMaria said: It was funny in Magical Girl Site because the guy deserved it for being an abusive homicidal sociopath. I don't think anybody deserves rape... Watch the anime in question, then defend this character. |
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sonofbatmanrp13 said: Mirai said: I never got into Yaoi because of such shit.One guy just forces his way onto the other.It is so forced and I can't get what fujos find good about it.Can we get actual romances like Given or Dokyuusei?It makes me uncomfortable. Hentai or not. And a lot of yaoi being rapey is such a waste tbh On the topic.I agree with OP.The clips he has shown proves his point.I haven't encountered a single male rape thou except when Donovan raped Gut's poor arse.I find rape whether male or female to be quite disgusting.Unless it have some profound impact on characters or story it shouldn't be included for any kind of shock value. Yeah it´s freaking disgusting,even when they play it up for laughs.It just makes me a million times more uncomfortable when they play it for laughs,rather than playing it straight for shock value.Like i already feel enough discomfort from the inclusion of rape(moreso in anime than in manga),how do you think i will feel if the anime makes it humorous?I´m glad rape-free BL like Given and doukyuusei exist(btw i don´t mind the inclusion of rape since it´s pretty prevalent in yaoi as long as it´s not played up as humour).Well Given in the manga... |
SummerynJan 26, 2020 3:29 AM
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| Rape just should not be used as a joke period, it's a very serious issue and should not be fetishised either. |
DonutSim said: StarManOfAtmora said: I've never seen this. Can you name some specific series? https://youtu.be/y-uVOSeWLHE https://youtu.be/oZlnVAEZupM https://youtu.be/eNzNBFj3Ob4 https://youtu.be/CdprgoD4zOc https://youtu.be/b-jvmfahz2Y What the fuck is that last video, for a little while I thought there was a cursed version of Revue Starlight. |
DonutSim said: StarManOfAtmora said: I've never seen this. Can you name some specific series? https://youtu.be/y-uVOSeWLHE https://youtu.be/oZlnVAEZupM https://youtu.be/eNzNBFj3Ob4 https://youtu.be/CdprgoD4zOc https://youtu.be/b-jvmfahz2Y Whoa, talk about cringe. I guess I get you now OP. It's unfortunate but I guess many male weebs actually love such thing (which is fine by me, to each their own). |
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MySweetLucifer said: I don't know why Yaoi is brought up again. There is a difference between a real rape which is a crime and erotic RP. I never seen/read a Yaoi in which the uke didn't enjoyed that forceful sexual behaviour towards him. If there is no sign of consent (excluding things like a character's thoughts assuming neither is a mind reader) it's still sexual assault even if a sexual assaulter got lucky and the other person wound up liking it but still showing passive or active resistance. Though it would unlikely go to court for that due to lack of their testifying against the assaulter. Roleplay on the other hand is something where the act is mutually understood to be going to take place and agreed on. |
| The idea of male rape is funny in itself, so there's no meaningful disctintion between it being done for comedy or drama. |
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| Well, if he doesn't nose bleed, then they're just bullying the guy and I'd feel bad. Actually, whether he feels good or not, it's just bad cuz those actions can influence others. And of course, they'd be really problematic even though they ain't these alpha folks. Edited: @MySweetLucilfer Come on, you are the one that started calling me names, when I'm joking with my friend. And heck, I didn't even interact with you once at that time. But doesn't matter, now these people know somewhat about you anyway. (Your saltiness) And that's enough. So, you can yell whatever your things at the clouds if you want to. @Missaliensan you gotta know the whole story first before you doing your equality things. |
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MySweetLucifer said: Said the guy who bullied me in that "Where would you take the user above you on a date"-thread for an hour, called me "mentally ill" and a "sociopath". I really felt horrible after that and had the greatest stomach ache since a year. I don't really go out of my way to call people names like that,but I'd feel bad too seeing the guy get bullied and pushed around like that.It makes the whole thing less funny when you see the guy cry for help and show a clear disdain for what he's going to get into. |
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MySweetLucifer said: Missaliensan said: I don't really go out of my way to call people names like that,but I'd feel bad too seeing the guy get bullied and pushed around like that.It makes the whole thing less funny when you see the guy cry for help and show a clear disdain for what he's going to get into. What does that have to do with that Yasuhiro- guy bulliying me in that thread for no reason? It's related to what Yasuhiro said beforehand about feeling bad for the guy being raped since he would just be bullied at that point.I just included that line in the beginning because i wanted to make it clear that i'm not a bully,and a hypocrite would be the last thing I want to be. |
SummerynJan 26, 2020 6:35 AM
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| I hadn't realised that a male anime character being raped was funny. Personally I don't care unless the male in question is a trap, a bishounen or shota. If a pretty character is being raped than the anime is automatically good and I wish more anime like it would be made. If the character being raped regardless of gender is unattractive than I don't care. I appreciate the action taking place, but if it involves a character I don't care about than its nothing special. |
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Yasuhiro- said: Edited: @MySweetLucilfer Come on, you are the one that started calling me names, when I'm joking with my friend. And heck, I didn't even interact with you once at that time. But doesn't matter, now these people know somewhat about you anyway. And that's enough. @Missaliensan you gotta know the whole story. :) I didn't even mention your name.I just said that i didn't want to be a hypocrite,it's understandable how you might have thought it was targeted at you but it was not.I only mentioned it when i was bringing up your feelings about seeing guys getting raped in anime which i agreed with. |
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| If a person doesn't get called out for it it's never okay. Scratch that rape isn't okay. It makes me not like the person or their relationship with the person they raped even if they do end up being forgiven. |
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Maneki-Mew said: OT: That's a huge misbelief, they aren't. But way less guys accuse their attacker, because they are even more ashamed than woman and in many cases, even the police officers laugh at them. Especially when they their attacker is a woman, which is actually rare tho. If their attacker is a man, the victims fear they could get very homophobic comments from the police. Either way, men even have it worse than women and it's actually pretty bad for them too. The darker number is very high there. I know that from social workers and psychologists, who often have male victims that were raped / assaulted sexually, often many years ago or in their childhood, but never went to the police. Then they come to them, because of drug or alcohol problems etc., but the true reason why they are addicted or have other problems, lies there. The dark number seems to be very high there. /OT Mirai said: It makes me uncomfortable. Hentai or not. And a lot of yaoi being rapey is such a waste tbh Wtf do you guys watch or read all the time? I mean I've seen in it a lot in older manga I often don't remember the titles, but it really became much better today. Except Kllling Stalling, I started reading a while ago and it's really not meant as romantic. It's really meant as a psychological thriller so far I could tell, but I'm so creeped out by the women, who think it's sexy and romantic... Another thing that sucks is that male rape victims aren’t often believed/helped. I think there was supposed to be a center in Canada to help male rape victims and it was faced with a lot of backlash. Forgot to put that in mind, thanks for reminding me. |
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| Hell have you been watching? That's rarely a scenario I ever see pop up in the anime I watch. If anything that's been a lot more likely to happen in the western cartoons I watch. |
juiccbox said: Maneki-Mew said: OT: That's a huge misbelief, they aren't. But way less guys accuse their attacker, because they are even more ashamed than woman and in many cases, even the police officers laugh at them. Especially when they their attacker is a woman, which is actually rare tho. If their attacker is a man, the victims fear they could get very homophobic comments from the police. Either way, men even have it worse than women and it's actually pretty bad for them too. The darker number is very high there. I know that from social workers and psychologists, who often have male victims that were raped / assaulted sexually, often many years ago or in their childhood, but never went to the police. Then they come to them, because of drug or alcohol problems etc., but the true reason why they are addicted or have other problems, lies there. The dark number seems to be very high there. /OT Wtf do you guys watch or read all the time? I mean I've seen in it a lot in older manga I often don't remember the titles, but it really became much better today. Except Kllling Stalling, I started reading a while ago and it's really not meant as romantic. It's really meant as a psychological thriller so far I could tell, but I'm so creeped out by the women, who think it's sexy and romantic... Another thing that sucks is that male rape victims aren’t often believed/helped. I think there was supposed to be a center in Canada to help male rape victims and it was faced with a lot of backlash. Forgot to put that in mind, thanks for reminding me. It's so sad because it's basically either getting shamed because of gender roles when getting raped by a woman or coming face to face with a homophobic asshole if it 's by a guy,it doesn't matter the gender,they are going to face embarassment and humiliation regardless. |
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| There is Happy Sugar Life where a dude is raped by a woman and is traumatised by it. It took it pretty seriously compared to other shows. I agree that it's not taken as seriously. |
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| In Japan and other foreign countries, men are seen as stronger and women as supporters. So in Japan where anime is made, of course, they would laugh off a male rape victim. But I guessed I never really minded but now that someone has said it, I guess it does piss me off because it's 2020 and we should be yearning for gender equality. True gender equality like Kazuma but I don't think rape should be laughed off with any gender. |
Ehta said: There is Happy Sugar Life where a dude is raped by a woman and is traumatised by it. It took it pretty seriously compared to other shows. I agree that it's not taken as seriously. I deadass forgot about that scene but I agree, it should be taken seriously |
| Forcing anyone to engage in sexual activities is never okay. However, in Harem or Ecchi stuff like that are not supposed to be taken seriously. (It's fictional anyway) You should know very well what you're about to watch. If you choose to watch Harem and Ecchi you're the only one to blame. I personally don't find it entertaining in any way but some people do and I couldn't give a single flying fuck about it. People are into weird shit you know and it's fine as long as they can differentiate fiction from reality. |
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| Biological differences between men & women explain the different reactions toward rape. Female on male rape will always be taken less serioulsy because of the different power imbalance compared to male on female rape. Also the fact that females lack penises make it complicated because to some people "rape" means only unwanted penetrative sex. When it comes to male on male rape, it's laughed off because of homophobia. If you're talking about yaoi/bl, it's a different thing; it's just a rape/forced sex fetish/kink a lot of female readers have. It's not supposed to be funny; it's sexy. So there's a nuance there. |
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Xstasy said: I rage quit that anime at episode 5 when the main heroin refused to kill that evil girl I just couldn't take it anymore. Are you talking about her brother? I remember him being a douchebag and beating his sister up just to relax or something. That was probably one of the most disturbing anime that I've seen. |
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TechniqueXV said: Keysers said: You must be referring to some hentai rape fantasies or something cause I've never seen this. Theres one in the Monogatari series btw, when Kanbaru molests Arargai behind some covers when he comes over to clean up the place. cant remember episode but its the one where she gets caught naked around the house by her grandma. I'm confused whats the double standard there? Araragi literally molests Mayoi every chance he gets and the show uses it as comedy. Honestly I wouldn't let something from an anime bother you to the point where your pissed. The comedy of people getting molested/rape is for both genders across anime and if you don't feel comfortable watching it then don't watch it. |
| So this gonna be a hot take but Men can't be raped by a chick, i'm sorry but it's true. Men on men though that's a different story and is something serious. |
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MichaelJackson said: That´s your fault for watching yaoi, lol. don´t drop the soap. this made me cry. thank you for making my day XD |
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| if ur talking bout some gay shit for a quick few laughs like on golden kamuy, thought that was pretty funny. Now if you're talking about actual rape, uhhhh thats kinds wierd whatt are you watching |
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| I dislike physical and sexual abuse for men and women. It only works when it's for the story - MC having traumatic backstory for example. If it is used as comedy or fanservice, it throws me off. |
| Which man wouldn't like pervert beautiful female who wants to be fucked by him ? + rapes of female are in much more aggressive way and much more often in animes than opposite side. And haven't seen many rapes of male by female in animes don't know which ones are you watching (guess H) but ok :D (to theme rape male by male if I see any aspect of yaoi genre I instantly quit it so no opinion for that) |
DonutSim said: There are some scenes that show what I'm referring to: https://youtu.be/y-uVOSeWLHE https://youtu.be/oZlnVAEZupM https://youtu.be/eNzNBFj3Ob4 https://youtu.be/CdprgoD4zOc https://youtu.be/b-jvmfahz2Y These are cringe scenes. Who laughs at them? |
| SAO PROGRESSIVE ANIME HYPE |
| I don't like the double standard either. Rather, xenosys said: It should be treated with the same levels of sensitivity that it would have been had it been the other way around |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I don't know any series where a male character was raped, or I just simply don't remember even if I watched any. It probably comes from real life, how most people say that males can't be raped, and it's something they always want regardless the situation |
| You can tell these people browse reddit daily. |
| Some guys fetishize it. Especially meek BEEEEEYTAHS. That's why you see them in harem anime, which are peak beta anime. When gays harass men for humor, the joke is usually something like, "Heh, you were hoping to get laid by a chick, but it's actually a guy." It's pretty lame and predictable humor. And that rape at the end of the clip you showed just made it really dark. |
Maneki-Mew said: Cneq said: So this gonna be a hot take but Men can't be raped by a chick, i'm sorry but it's true. Men on men though that's a different story and is something serious. Maybe mostly not physically (but it's possible, I'm sure), but surely through emotional manipulation. "If you don't sleep with me now, I'll leave you / then you don't love me" etc until they give in. It’s quite possible if the woman outweighs the man too. If the man is a scrawny weakling into bbws it is very possible. |
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