killerqueen2000 said: Tsukizono said: "BASIC SHOUNEN CHARACTERS"??? what on earth, this show has some of the best written character arcs I've ever seen in fiction. If you think that then you literally have missed every single detail in every season. Here's an analysis on Oikawa (Spoilers for S1-3 ofc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6DQePdp7Po Another vid that touches upon some aspects of hinata's character https://youtu.be/_P2QtmF9-bI not really. Oikawa is great I agree and he made season 2 great but Hinata is one of the most basic shonen mc's. in terms of shonen Sawamura Eijun is one of the best main characters because he's written differently than the typical ones. but then you have the actual complex characters in sports like Ashita no joe and Ping pong the animation which haikyuu and Aod can't even be compared to in terms of character writing. Yes, thank you for mentioning Eijun! He's such a well-written character with actual character depth. I don't think Haikyuu is the most realistic sports series out there, because so many scenes are so wonderfully drawn and animated that it feels something like KnB, but with grounded game play. A lot of people would get bored with actual realistic sports anime without stylized animation, etc (Diamond no Ace, Baby Steps, Whistle, Over Drive). I know people mean realistic as in it's not over-reliant on the zone or other super powers, but if the mangaka of Haikyuu!! didn't know how to draw panels with impact, or animators didn't give love to this series, the story so far is at most, solid. Whistle! is one of the best realistic and true underdog story I know (out of not many, lol). Anyways, what I mean to say is, why I like Haikyuu is not because of the characters, it's because there are some really inspirational moments in the series. I don't have strong attachments to any of the characters, but I find myself tearing up in season 1. But enjoyment after season 1 will probably depend on how invested you are in the characters, because while I loved season 1, my love for it dwindled in season 2. The characters do have lovable qualities, and they grow, but that's all basic things any conventional story should have. What really separates Haikyuu apart as a sports anime though, is definitely the animation. Matches are intense, and are there are some really amazing and talented animators that are brought in and/or work for this franchise. Also, you can never go wrong with Hayashi Yuuki's music, he makes some beautiful and inspirational tracks. Someone mentioned the drama, and I definitely agree that can be a hit or miss, as it's mostly a miss for me after season 1. I actually wasn't going to post anything in this thread, but I had to agree with the Eijun comment :> Can't have people sleeping on DnA~ |
| Just had to comment that I agree with Tingy and killerqueen2000's comments about Sawamura Ejiun being one of the best sports protagonists. Anyway, Haikyuu!! isn't overly special. It's just polished, dynamic and is inspirational. That's why it's good. Some of the characters even the MCs are a bit generic but the show is amazing overall and shows that you don't need uniqueness to become great. The opposing teams have interesting characters too which make it fun to watch. |
MASTERLYNX said: MehmetY said: okay so why is ep 47 generic ? Because it’s a fight episode ? And saying “only” chimera ant arc isn’t generic is dumb Considering the fact that it’s almost half of the show and how are york new and chairman election arc generic when one of them focuses on the villains and the other focuses on killua which isn’t the main character. Also HxH explores themes and ideas such as grief and depression which almost no shonen does. And also gon is probably the least generic shonen protagonist out there...How the hell it isn't? Only non-cliché arc of HxH is Chimera Ant arc, other arcs have so many shounen clichés. Especially episode 47. That sounds generic as fuck. But that's not all. HxH is overrated also. |
| It's not that good. It's just a run of the mill sports shounen with good animation. |
| Actually sports anime have the charm to lure you into watching them. Team play and good aim (basically most of them are "go for nationals) are simply but soild plot since they'll met diffrent ppl (enemies/friends) who try their best to also being at top. Sports anime have also good culmitive point which is match where they prove how the improve. You cheer them, you cry with them, you banzai banzai with them. I feel similar connection to music clubs aswell where you have similar construction. To me Haikyuu is special bcs it's about volleyball. I like this sport and enjoy watching it more than other sports, so it was my target. And Haikyuu is very well done as for direction and animation. OP/ED are very good too. And the most important: characters are loveable, you find some you hate, some you like. I felt small downgrade in last season bcs I felt like autor tried finding special moves for them. |
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Rimzyy said: ItsXolo said: It's unironically one of the worst shows I've ever seen. Forcing myself to watch the first three seasons was a serious challenge and I think I'd rather pass a kidney stone than do it again. You are the definition of “if I don’t like the show nobody should!” Like chill out stop watching if you don’t like it ??? He literally just said he doesn't like it? What the actual fuck? I mean I agree that he didn't even present some reason but still, you are the one who should chill out here. |
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| i honestly dislike sports anime, it's my least favorite genre. there hasn't been one that's really reeled me in. i thought i would kuroko no basket, but i felt kinda unrealistic. which is a shame, because i like watching basketball in real life. but when i started watching haikyuu, i felt like i portrayed volleyball, or at least any sport, in the way it should be portrayed. it got me hyped and so emotional. i always cheered every character. this anime is far from perfect, i don't see it as a masterpiece (i gave each season so far a 8/10) however, the one thing that i does really well is connecting it's audience to voleyball--as if we're the ones cheering them on in the gym. |
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| Unlike the numerous basketball anime that tried to follow it, it's the true successor to Slam Dunk: an excellent, realistic but exciting sports drama with fantastic characters. Add to that Production IG's incredible animation and you have something nearly flawless at what it does. It's so good that it's caused a cultural shift in the popularity of volleyball in Japanese schools |
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| Great character design, awesome character growth, exciting matches, nice comedy, animation and music. It just makes me so happy |
| Didn't like this anime at first when it was first airing because I hated that it was swarming with fujoshis shipping the characters (no offense though) Years later, I tried watching it and got addicted immediately. Finished all seasons in just 1 day I think?? then I tried to catch up with the manga the next day. I thought to myself...I should have tried this in the first place. So yep, I can say 100% that THIS ANIME IS WELL-RECEIVED BECAUSE OF IT'S GREAT STORY + ANIMATION + CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT not because OF THE EXAGGERATED FAN GIRLS :))) |
I agree with this. And the upcoming episodes will be especially great. Upcoming arc will be one of my favourites. I think this series and the upcoming arc teaches the importance of self worth, in addition to the excitement, character interactions and great animation. Looking forward to it finally animated. Of course there are a lot more underdog story series out there but Haikyuu does this incredibly well. |
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| I love the characters. They're so fleshed out that each have their own story and individuality that doesn't really mess up the whole pace and plot of the show. They also grow at a good pace, the same way that they just "grown" on you. I just love them! I also just LOVE the humor. This is one of the few anime shows that made me laugh in real life while watching it. The banters are also seemingly natural and witty. And of course, the whole premise as well of how they slowly rise to the top. I'm not surprised it's one of the top animes because it is fun to watch. It just really is. |
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BlindSniper said: It's for kids or adults who want to be a kid. I tried to enjoy it but there isn't anything to enjoy. Pretty much. As an adult in my heart I think I'll always be 15. :D Let them kids have fun while I also enjoy it. Serious shows like Monster or Ergo Proxy never grew on me (might give them another try when i feel like i wish to watch something serious). Recent exception might be Vinland Saga because of the story pacing and flow and action elements. If you didn't find Haikyuu fun that's just how you are. I am amazed you can suffer through many seasons of a show you don't like - that's a talent. I'd rather watch something i do enjoy if i were you. In my opinion this series is easy to follow, i find the characters likeable and the matches pretty exciting. The element of how you are looked down upon but still staying strong to your ideals aka underdog is also there. And that's admirable to watch :) |
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killerqueen2000 said: Tsukizono said: Haven't seen Daiya or Joe, but Ping Pong is one of my fave anime, and I'm going to say with certainty that Hinata, Oikawa, Kageyama, and Tsukishima (and even some characters that might go into spoiler territory if i point it out) don't lose to ANY ping pong character in terms of development. And they are "actual complex characters". I mean, mainly it's because of the length of the series giving it an advantage. The more prominent haikyuu characters also tend to have multiple character arcs while due to Ping Pong's length they only have one. Oikawa's character arc on hard work vs talent is literally Sakuma's arc but more developed and has a more positive outcome to it. I don't think "generic" is a good argument. Hinata fits the narrative and the themes of the story perfectly, therefore he is a good character. I'm a manga reader so I'm biased I guess, the bulk of Hinata's development is in the current arc and nationals, and I can assure that he's extremely well-written and the payoff to his arc is done very very well. I'm not gonna go into spoiler territory but I can even argue that Haikyuu SUBVERTS typical sports anime tropes later on. What is a "typical" shounen protagonist anyway? Aside from determination, I can't think of a common trait. Hinata does have that determination and so do most protagonists, really, but he also faces consequences because of that, like in the first ep of this season. Hinata has a clear character arc that fits thematically with the story, has fleshed out motivations and relationships with other characters and faces internal struggles, his arc has a great payoff later on, so imo he's a great character. I'd say Ping Pong is better than Haikyuu S1-3, but personally nationals elevates haikyuu to another level. I guess I can't argue with you, i'll just tell you to continue the series then you'd see how great it is later on. Also, just saying "xxx is generic" and "xxx is worse than xxx" and not giving any reasons is not gonna convince anyone. see thats kinda the problem. ppl praise haikyuu because its more watched and popular. most ppl haven't even seen aod or other great sports series and already crown haikyuu as the best. I would say haikyuu is definitely more hype and has better animation which is the main appeal but in terms of other aspects, its good but its more formulaic. ping pong and Joe have complex characters while haikyuu has likable but cliche characters. aod is somewhere in the middle because it has more realistic aspects than haikyuu yet the characters aren't to the point of being complex. though, the animation is more grounded as well as the character designs. then you have one of the best main characters that go through tons of ups and downs, more than most sports mcs. "see thats kinda the problem. ppl praise haikyuu because its more watched and popular." Or, or, or they praise it because it DESERVES praise for being a phenomenal story about GROWTH. Something that anyone can relate to because we all want to grow in some way. Also, more than one series can be regarded as good. Don't reduce Haikyuu's success to simple bandwagon hype because you think ___ is better, or reduce the complexity of its characters because they are likable. |
Themousen said: Thanks for all your replies, I'm definitively gonna give this anime a try, I especially love when the characters are well written and likeable What charms me most about the writing of the characters is how likeable even the players on rival teams turn out to be. They somehow make you care about players that aren't in the main focus of the show. So even though you're routing for the main team, you still can feel for the teams they're up against, and I think that's super cool. |
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killerqueen2000 said: _simplethoughts said: "see thats kinda the problem. ppl praise haikyuu because its more watched and popular." Or, or, or they praise it because it DESERVES praise for being a phenomenal story about GROWTH. Something that anyone can relate to because we all want to grow in some way. Also, more than one series can be regarded as good. Don't reduce Haikyuu's success to simple bandwagon hype because you think ___ is better, or reduce the complexity of its characters because they are likable. are you sure you read what I said? I literally said its a cliche but good series. GOOD. thats why I'm saying watch other series first before you crown haikyuu as king. The characters are by no means complex at all. It deserves praise but not nearly as much as ppl are making it out to be. yet most ppl still watch either haikyuu or kuroko just because they are most watched and other series just get thrown to the side for no reason. Thats the problem with anime fans in general. they mostly just follow the hype and refuse to check other things out. I have different thoughts about haikyuu than the typical haikyuu fans only because I have another perspective from the result of watching other shows and comparing them to haikyuu. the series is good but not THAT good dude. Clearly you didn't read what I wrote either. Haikyuu characters ARE complex AND the series deserves all the praise it gets. |
BlindSniper said: Lylaaz said: Pretty much. As an adult in my heart I think I'll always be 15. :D Let them kids have fun while I also enjoy it. Serious shows like Monster or Ergo Proxy never grew on me (might give them another try when i feel like i wish to watch something serious). Recent exception might be Vinland Saga because of the story pacing and flow and action elements. If you didn't find Haikyuu fun that's just how you are. I am amazed you can suffer through many seasons of a show you don't like - that's a talent. I'd rather watch something i do enjoy if i were you. In my opinion this series is easy to follow, i find the characters likeable and the matches pretty exciting. The element of how you are looked down upon but still staying strong to your ideals aka underdog is also there. And that's admirable to watch :) Considering your dropped list and the amount of episodes you watched on them you should take your own advice. But i already am taking my own advice? :D Obvious duh? lol If this was your attempt to snap back at me for whatever reason then you failed. Have a good day and i hope you also find something you like. |
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Esquirtit said: Not seen this but it better move out of the top 10. We can't put ourselves to shame by letting a generic sports shounen be in the top 10, something that's supposed to represent the taste of the MAL community. Come on y'all. It's called sequel bias, a failing in how the collected score data doesn't reflect that it's a sequel. Generally speaking we can say that there is no such thing as a perfect anime. There will always be those who do not like something and they will score accordingly. This keeps the score "real". But obviously these same people have generally speaking less propensity to then watch the sequel. So sequels benefit from higher scores as long as they're ok. So the more sequels, the more "hardcore fans" are watching and will score their beloved show higher. This is the reason for there being a thousand Gintama shows in the top 50 of MAL. There's unfortunately no easy fix, unless you set up some algorithm to reflect its a sequel, but that might be unfair to a really fantastic show that is fully deserving of the high score.. One possibility would be for MAL mods to pool all consecutive seasons of a same show into one entry like for example Legend of the Galactic Heroes that has 4 seasons but they only count as one show. |
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ItsXolo said: It's unironically one of the worst shows I've ever seen. Forcing myself to watch the first three seasons was a serious challenge and I think I'd rather pass a kidney stone than do it again. And you gave Fairy Tail a 9. Yea too bad there are no chest and pants flashes in Haikyuu |
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| Haikyuu has the qualities pretty much every shows wished they could have : consistently great art and animation, with some crazy sakuga spikes, an absolutly lovable cast with no sidelined characters, a fantastic ost, but most importantly amazing directing, it's definitly the kind of show that knows when to be ridiculously intense, and when to slow down to highlight one single moment or action. As someone who wasn't particularily drawn to sports anime, it almost instantly became one of my favorite shows, and what I believe is really impressive is that it's aready got a really strong start, but it just keeps getting better and better with each season. So in short, I can't recommend it enough. |
| I'm not a hardcore fan of haikyuu and would never be. I watched a lot of other sports anime and I tend to like the sports genre in general. I didn't find haikyuu more special than these others anime, maybe equally interesting but not superior in any way. Everything in haikyuu I had already seen it in another show. I passed the entirety of season 1 asking myself why it was lacking that incentive that would made me binge watching the whole thing in one sitting as it happened with other sports anime. Retrospectively I think that should be because 1) I don't find volleyball very interesting 2) the repetitive gags scenes don't make me laugh 3) I don't find the characters especially interesting Then something happened that made me start binge watching the rest. I think that's when they started thinking more and planning more instead of using always the same basic tactics. From that point onwards there were no sure way to win so they had to plan more to increase their chances of victory. Obviously planning has its limits too when you have pratically only players with average skills so we will see what they come up with in this 4th season. so for the strong point of the anime : strategic thinking to compensate the lack of skill and/or experience of the members of the team |
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Farabeuf said: Esquirtit said: Not seen this but it better move out of the top 10. We can't put ourselves to shame by letting a generic sports shounen be in the top 10, something that's supposed to represent the taste of the MAL community. Come on y'all. It's called sequel bias, a failing in how the collected score data doesn't reflect that it's a sequel. Generally speaking we can say that there is no such thing as a perfect anime. There will always be those who do not like something and they will score accordingly. This keeps the score "real". But obviously these same people have generally speaking less propensity to then watch the sequel. So sequels benefit from higher scores as long as they're ok. So the more sequels, the more "hardcore fans" are watching and will score their beloved show higher. This is the reason for there being a thousand Gintama shows in the top 50 of MAL. There's unfortunately no easy fix, unless you set up some algorithm to reflect its a sequel, but that might be unfair to a really fantastic show that is fully deserving of the high score.. One possibility would be for MAL mods to pool all consecutive seasons of a same show into one entry like for example Legend of the Galactic Heroes that has 4 seasons but they only count as one show. Spot on. A generic sports shounen withan 8.90 score...Jesus wept. |
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