https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paypal-pornhub/paypal-halts-payment-support-to-pornhub-models-idUSKBN1XO2SV (Reuters) - PayPal Holdings Inc said on Thursday it had stopped payment support to PornHub’s models after it found the adult entertainment website made certain payments without the permission of the payment processor. “Following a review, we have discovered that PornHub has made certain business payments through PayPal without seeking our permission. We have taken action to stop these transactions from occurring,” PayPal said in an email statement. PornHub, owned by Luxembourg-headquartered company MindGeek, said it was “devastated by PayPal’s decision to stop payouts to over a hundred thousand performers who rely on them for their livelihoods”. MindGeek did not respond to a Reuters request for comment. ------------------------------------------------- they need to clarify what they mean by "certain transactions without permission" because it really just looks like processor paypal trying to be moral police again if stupid deplatforming/refusal of service like this keeps occurring, will probably push more people into crypocurrencies. |
| My guess is this is something to do with FOSTA-SESTA the bill that single handedly turned the internet into a puritanical hellscape. |
| if more people use cryptocurrencies then that means more investments will be made to reduce its global warming impact so thats great |
| I think this is due to FOSTA-SESTA not NPCs from Twitter or the media and I doubt it's Paypal's doing either, as much as I want to blame them. Even so, I want to know what these suspicious payments are. |
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| Banks and payment providers giving sex workers a difficult life existed well before FOSTA-SESTA, that bill just made it easier for them to target internet sex workers specifically. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/banks-porn-stars-your-moneys-not-welcome-flna1C9967366 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326550/Moral-issues-lead-banks-refuse-porn-stars-bank-accounts-loans.html It's completely tragic, but this isn't the result of some no-lifers on twitter or some recently passed bill. This is just a symptom to a more widespread epidemic of systemic discrimination against sex workers, and that's been a long-term issue, even in countries where things like prostitution are perfectly legal. So it is, so it's always been. This is a long-term problem and this sort of thing happening is inevitable unless we recognize that, well, this shit goes well beyond what's happened just within the past couple of years. |
ManabanNov 14, 2019 5:28 PM
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| Very sad. People can't get paid for their work because some suits in an office somewhere with outdated puritan (hell, one could legit call this kind of shit far-right) values don't like it. What a world... |
| “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
deg said: if more people use cryptocurrencies then that means more investments will be made to reduce its global warming impact so thats great What? Crypto currency like Bitcoin uses energy because it's it's based on computer calculations for it's value and due to where the power comes from it's worse for the environment than paper or other digital transactions so what are you talking about? Manaban said: Banks and payment providers giving sex workers a difficult life existed well before FOSTA-SESTA, that bill just made it easier for them to target internet sex workers specifically. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/banks-porn-stars-your-moneys-not-welcome-flna1C9967366 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326550/Moral-issues-lead-banks-refuse-porn-stars-bank-accounts-loans.html It's completely tragic, but this isn't the result of some no-lifers on twitter or some recently passed bill. This is just a symptom to a more widespread epidemic of systemic discrimination against sex workers, and that's been a long-term issue, even in countries where things like prostitution are perfectly legal. So it is, so it's always been. This is a long-term problem and this sort of thing happening is inevitable unless we recognize that, well, this shit goes well beyond what's happened just within the past couple of years. Fair enough (aside from underplaying how FOSTA-SESTA effected more than sex workers but the internet as a whole) but PayPal isn't quite a bank. For one thing you are charged for the service and for another it requires you bank account number to even have an account. |
traed said: deg said: if more people use cryptocurrencies then that means more investments will be made to reduce its global warming impact so thats great What? Crypto currency like Bitcoin uses energy because it's it's based on computer calculations for it's value and due to where the power comes from it's worse for the environment than paper or other digital transactions so what are you talking about? that is the thing more computations means more energy use so more global warming due to burning more fossil fuels |
deg said: traed said: What? Crypto currency like Bitcoin uses energy because it's it's based on computer calculations for it's value and due to where the power comes from it's worse for the environment than paper or other digital transactions so what are you talking about? that is the thing more computations means more energy use so more global warming due to burning more fossil fuels Dont see how that would increase investments. It just wouldnt. It would only increase money laundering. |
traed said: deg said: that is the thing more computations means more energy use so more global warming due to burning more fossil fuels Dont see how that would increase investments. It just wouldnt. It would only increase money laundering. investment in terms of programming too is what i got in mind since once cryptocurrency becomes more widely use then a lot more genius programmers will try to solve its global warming side effect |
deg said: traed said: Dont see how that would increase investments. It just wouldnt. It would only increase money laundering. investment in terms of programming too is what i got in mind since once cryptocurrency becomes more widely use then a lot more genius programmers will try to solve its global warming side effect That takes changes to the hardware's power sources not simply software changes. |
traed said: deg said: investment in terms of programming too is what i got in mind since once cryptocurrency becomes more widely use then a lot more genius programmers will try to solve its global warming side effect That takes changes to the hardware's power sources not simply software changes. well cryptocurrency is software so they can improve the code of it, bitcoin for example takes more computation as its database or userbase becomes more larger so they need to improve that |
| No one is gonna say the obvious joke; So was it too big for them to handle? Hahaha I need a social hobby :/ |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
Silverstorm said: No one is gonna say the obvious joke; So was it too big for them to handle? Hahaha I need a social hobby :/ welp that puts a smile to my face - Thanos |
deg said: Time well spent here then! I'm sure those models would've made everyone's smile bigger if they got paid tho. Just saying, now the site might not have new content for like a day. #NoFapNov lolSilverstorm said: No one is gonna say the obvious joke; So was it too big for them to handle? Hahaha I need a social hobby :/ welp that puts a smile to my face - Thanos |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| No idea what the undisclosed payment violations are, but the porn/sex industry has always been high risk. People in Cali just got hit with sex trafficking charges lol. This is only a symptom of society. You wanna buy your kinks but when wifey or whomever sees the transaction statement, you swear it wasn't you and somebody dun defrauded your ass!!! Like, Patreon was just a level of obfuscation between porn/sex, what have you and payment processors. They was always wise to this until it got to be a problem like incest rape games and shit lol. Anyhues, this is just another bold move by the Patriarchy resistance forces to crush the thot. Thot better learn how to crypto to get them beat cuck bucks. |
SoverignNov 15, 2019 12:41 AM
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Silverstorm said: No one is gonna say the obvious joke; So was it too big for them to handle? Hahaha I need a social hobby :/ The girls in the business should start their own companies called PayGal. |
| To me it looks like they tried to avoid fees by using private transactions rather than declare themselves a business to paypal. |
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| I too enjoy being told who I can and cannot give my money to |
| @traed Haha, there it is! |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| If these thots have to get a real job, I hope Xev seeks employment where I work. |
| Who's got the clip? No e-girls! Never! #NeverEGirls. Not even once. |
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| Left wing moralizing is just as bad as right wing moralizing. It goes both ways when you give giant monopolistic corporations absolute power. |
| That's convenient, but I'm good. I've already bought enough hentai from Rightstuf; not as JO material, but still. |
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| Damn-this is gonna make it harder for me to beat my meat. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| If you get paid to fuck or do sexual things...you will easily find other ways to keep the cash flowing. |
| Huh, weird. Wonder if that was like, illegal, or something. traed said: For one thing you are charged for the service and for another it requires you bank account number to even have an account. Paypal is free to use and you don't have to hook it up to your bank account. All you need is your personal info and card number. |
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Gan_water said: Huh, weird. Wonder if that was like, illegal, or something. traed said: For one thing you are charged for the service and for another it requires you bank account number to even have an account. Paypal is free to use and you don't have to hook it up to your bank account. All you need is your personal info and card number. No they have a fee for each transaction of a sale. |
traed said: Gan_water said: Huh, weird. Wonder if that was like, illegal, or something. Paypal is free to use and you don't have to hook it up to your bank account. All you need is your personal info and card number. No they have a fee for each transaction of a sale. Uhhh no they don't. You are only charged with the exact amount of the transaction. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| @Gan_water PayPal fees are a thing. Selling something and getting payed for it is 2.9% + some change, so the seller carries the burden of sales. I think the PornHub payment issue is more because PayPal is mad that most of those actors probably aren't paying the associated fees more than anything. PayPal isn't exactly a payroll service, and it's dubious to claim all these people are set up to sell their porn and pay the transaction fee. I don't know for sure but that's my guess until someone comes up with more details. |
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ItsaNico said: @Gan_water PayPal fees are a thing. Selling something and getting payed for it is 2.9% + some change, so the seller carries the burden of sales. I think the PornHub payment issue is more because PayPal is mad that most of those actors probably aren't paying the associated fees more than anything. PayPal isn't exactly a payroll service, and it's dubious to claim all these people are set up to sell their porn and pay the transaction fee. I don't know for sure but that's my guess until someone comes up with more details. Oh okay I didn't know that but you don't actually have to sell your wares with Paypal. You can just have people send you the money, and then there is no fee. I mean, that's how I've been getting paid for art/hentai comissions so I hope there is no fee LOL. It's pretty much free to use :P Guess that's how they make their money, though. |
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YossaRedMage said: Very sad. People can't get paid for their work because some suits in an office somewhere with outdated puritan (hell, one could legit call this kind of shit far-right) values don't like it. What a world... Far right is exactly what I'd call it. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the western porn industry, but if they're going after normie porn I can't imagine how they're going to tackle other things |
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