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Sep 21, 2019 11:30 AM

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Pullman said:
Congrats to awakening a new fetish. If you can't get it out of your mind, you probably are into it deep down in your soul. What you need to cure your depression is to embrace that side of you instead of deny it. It's your self-denial that makes you depressed. Go read more NTR hentai. Fap to them. Watch cuckold porn. Do whatever you need to. Until you've had enough, until you've satisfied your craving and don't have to think about it constantly.

If you really hated it it wouldn't be difficult to ignore its existence and not think about it all the time. I do that all the time when I encounter fetishes in doujins that disgust me. I've stumbled into scat, vore, snuff and other disgusting things before with doujins but I never ended up imagining every anime girl afterwards eating shit, vomitting or getting impaled to death afterwards. That's because I'm not into it and would rather not think of that. If you obsess, if you can't let go, you're not actually hating it like you think you do.



err there is this stuff called intrusive thoughts that is prominent in OCD sufferers for example basically they got a love and hate relationship with this unwanted thoughts

similarly there is ironic process theory or the white bear problem refers to the psychological process whereby deliberate attempts to suppress certain thoughts make them more likely to surface https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_process_theory

thought-action fusion is another related stuff about this (like i suspect OP is having) basically having thoughts of bad things makes the sufferer feel its already an action done by them so just treat your thoughts as thoughts only (easier said than done though)
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Sep 21, 2019 11:31 AM

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I don't get it. Why does cheating disturb you so much? It's commonplace. (Unfortunately.)
Sep 21, 2019 11:41 AM

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This was trauma for you? Granted I don't know your age. If its haunting you this much its a sign you have self-inserted into the MC and really imagine the drawn girl is yours. That's a bigger problem than cuckold porn. Put your computer down and go outside. You're starting to develop mental health problems.
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Out of curiosity, can someone explain to be why is NTR particularly traumatizing? It seems pretty tame to me compared to a lot of weird fetishes out there. It's not any more graphic than other types of hentai and since when have people actually taken hentai plots seriously? So what's the big fuss?

Personally I'm just kinda indifferent to it.
Sep 21, 2019 6:09 PM
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Would you be so kind to give me its name? please dude I won't be able to sleep if I didn't know what hentai gave you this terrible trauma. It's rare to find non-weak shit NTRs these days.
Sep 21, 2019 8:33 PM

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simon443 said:
You said that you've read stuff with NTR previously but it didn't affect you. My take on this is that there was another element that clicked with NTR and traumatized you, probably a trait of the girl/couple you unconsciously idealized.


Might be it's the issue, i actually didn't think much of that hentai, i also know that NTR is common in real life and i also don't feel like it's gonna disturb me if it belongs to reality. I just don't want to see it in anime/manga, since i read that hentai, i have always been affair of having NTR in anime/manga. I always have anxiety about "something behind the scene" which i don't know, the couple/the girl in that hentai is too similar to normal couple in anime/
Sep 21, 2019 8:40 PM

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MoonStar9 said:
This was trauma for you? Granted I don't know your age. If its haunting you this much its a sign you have self-inserted into the MC and really imagine the drawn girl is yours. That's a bigger problem than cuckold porn. Put your computer down and go outside. You're starting to develop mental health problems.

I'm early 20. I actually go out a lot, i have just got this issue recently
Sep 21, 2019 8:43 PM

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ClickBaitBuster said:
Would you be so kind to give me its name? please dude I won't be able to sleep if I didn't know what hentai gave you this terrible trauma. It's rare to find non-weak shit NTRs these days.

I'm having trauma because i'm not used to NTR genre, so it might be boring for you. Anyway, the artist is Matsukawa
Sep 21, 2019 9:22 PM

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My only advice is find a place that has everything tagged well, and then read all the tags before start anything.

I don't have that exact reaction to it, but I do have a bad reaction to said NTR garbage hentai itself and usually causes me to get angry and rate the thing down.
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Sep 21, 2019 9:45 PM

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Is it just me or do I find that the supposed "characters" in hentai has no effect on me ?

For example, I could watch a porno labeled "incest" but my brain doesn't recognize it as such. All my subconscious sees is two people having sex? Because of that I can't take incest seriously in anime.

Same is true of NTR. My brain just sees two people having sex, the supposed context is meaningless.

Its not because incest or NTR turns me on, its that its completely irrelevant. As long as the girl is hot that's all that matters.
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NTR is hot af get some taste. Nothing like being cucked, or cucking someone.
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LuckEx said:
i always have the thought that the girls would be taken by someone elses.

I don't think that that'd correlate with NTR, and what a weird thought process to have. It's like randomly getting trauma from a kidnapper manga to the point that you believe that every anime you watch is doing to have the protagonist kidnapped or sth.

Just stop watching romances lol and go and watch something more serious with no romance or crushes in it, maybe even comedic.
Sep 22, 2019 3:06 AM

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you can't be cucked if you never had a gf
Sep 22, 2019 3:47 AM

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..................... . Cool story bro.
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Sep 22, 2019 3:50 AM
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just read the korean h web comics, they are far worse, will let you forget the one you read
Sep 22, 2019 4:09 AM

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My child. You need a cure.

Don't listen the others. Do not embrace that shit. Go read some wholesome stuff, go watch some wholesome pure love anime. Just accept the fact that the percentage of NTR in anime is like 0.5%.

Do not fall for the trap another time. ALWAYS check the tags before reading. ALWAYS. It's a hentai-rule.

Sep 22, 2019 4:42 AM

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I am currently learning to draw my own Hentai, and while I don't do NTR, I will do themes of which the heroines in my H-illustrations likes both the MC and his best friend equally and will do threesomes with them happily.

NTR sucks because one guy always loses and fails that you can't help but feel like as if you are that loser, but with consensual threesomes and orgies with some romance involved for both the MC and his best friend with both getting loved by many heroines, my Hentai will get sexier and more fun than lame NTR works.
I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story.

We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine.
Sep 22, 2019 4:49 AM

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CHC said:
Pullman said:
Congrats to awakening a new fetish. If you can't get it out of your mind, you probably are into it deep down in your soul. What you need to cure your depression is to embrace that side of you instead of deny it. It's your self-denial that makes you depressed. Go read more NTR hentai. Fap to them. Watch cuckold porn. Do whatever you need to. Until you've had enough, until you've satisfied your craving and don't have to think about it constantly.

If you really hated it it wouldn't be difficult to ignore its existence and not think about it all the time. I do that all the time when I encounter fetishes in doujins that disgust me. I've stumbled into scat, vore, snuff and other disgusting things before with doujins but I never ended up imagining every anime girl afterwards eating shit, vomitting or getting impaled to death afterwards. That's because I'm not into it and would rather not think of that. If you obsess, if you can't let go, you're not actually hating it like you think you do.


Haha, exactly what I thought too. It's like almost everyone hated it when they first discovered their NTR fetish.

One solution I would suggest is to stop watching those too-good-to-be-real anime romance, instead watch some live-action movies about infidelity, then you'll learn that infidelity is almost an inevitable part of the modern life, but it won't happen in the way hentai depict (your girlfriend will leave you because she is tired of you, and you have probably not been paying enough attention to her either, not because some ugly old dude has a bigger dick.) You will accept that no relationship is gonna be immortal, but then it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it while it's alive. Try to play around, to be polyamorous like a French lover, without neither being too idealistic nor too cynical about love. When you have a much bigger world than your love of one woman, the damage of infidelity is very limited.

The less you're obsessed with monogamy, the less you'll be haunted by the anxiety of being cuckolded. The more you try to convince yourself absolute certainty exists, the more you are susceptible to doubt and fear. (Studies had found that people who vote for Republican are more likely to have cuckold fetish. Guess why? It's because they're more obsessed with the monogamous ideal.)


I can relate very much to your point of view CHC, as I will soon draw in the future my own Hentai where some of the heroines in my story likes both the MC and his best friend equally and have threesomes and orgies with those 2 of their closest and intimate male buddies.

And it ain't just sex too, as those heroines in my story also harbor romantic feelings for those 2 guys, and would take a bullet for them just to save their lives ( that's how much they like them ).
I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story.

We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine.
Sep 22, 2019 5:15 AM

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why is getting cheated such a big deal for you lol
Sep 22, 2019 7:56 AM

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Out of curiosity, can someone explain to be why is NTR particularly traumatizing? It seems pretty tame to me compared to a lot of weird fetishes out there. It's not any more graphic than other types of hentai and since when have people actually taken hentai plots seriously? So what's the big fuss?

Personally I'm just kinda indifferent to it.
When Aki-Sora's "swinger chapter" was released, large parts of the fan-base completely lost their mind — not because Sora was dragged into a sex party without his knowledge or consent, not because he was drugged, not because he was stripped naked whilst drugged, not because he was raped after that point( — though, Sora being Sora eventually grew to enjoy it). No, they were mad because the party featured a female character that had sex with another character than Sora pretty much, which qualified it as "n.t.r.".

It's not about "fetish"; it's about that a large part of the viewerbase consumes this entertainment on the basis of self-insert wish-fulfillment: the viewer wants to vicariously experience a phantasy he knows he will never have in real life, of a large "harem" of attractive suitors — in the real world, that harem will neither come, and should the time come that one will finally be raped, it most likely won't be by a man so attractive that one secretly enjoys it.

"n.t.r." is the complete opposite of that, of course.

I will also say that there is "actual n.t.r." where the story is written to invite the audience to self-insert into a particular character, who then gets cheated upon or something similar and the "n.t.r." that gets shouted simply when a character that is <not the sex of the audience> decides to do anything sexual with another character than <the character the audience has self-inserted into>.

I've seen a very common criticism on the ending of Queen's Artist that supposedly it has an "n.t.r." ending — all that happens is that of the four main characters two of them get together in the end which was part of a large arc of both them; it just so happens that neither of those two is the one teenage male member of the main cast which is probably the demographic the audience is the most likely to self-insert into, even though his arc was trying to become a comic book artist, not find love, which was the arc of the two that got together.


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Sep 22, 2019 8:34 AM

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I'm thinking of watching One Piece until i fully recover, i'm also gonna try to stop thinking too much about NTR stuffs. About reading more NTR hentai to get used to it, i did try 1 time today but at the end, reading the comments in Myanimelist review posts already gave me PTSD and a lot more stress, so i decided not to watch it. Seem like it's not a suitable cure for me
Sep 22, 2019 8:50 AM
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You should read henshin, it's a really good hentai and will uplift ur soul. It's ending is one of the happiest ending I have seen in any hentai. I wasn't able to sleep the night I finished it due to the excess of positive energy. <3
Sep 22, 2019 9:29 AM

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You'll get over it sooner or later lmaoo


Sep 22, 2019 11:16 AM

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Woah okay, that sounds pretty bad to me.

How about taking a break from anime? trying other activities and let your mind calm down first until you can forget the trauma. Don't push yourself too hard.

There's also nothing wrong to seek a professional help.
Sep 22, 2019 12:18 PM

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Maneki-Mew said:
Shit happens in real life every day. Welcome to reality, I guess, dunno ...?
Also I don't see what's inherently wrong with it (in some cases or circumstances), but that's another story.

Maybe,because its too real its kind of traumatic.We all know that anime is kind of escapism for many people that dont like their normal lives and are sick and tired of it.
And NTR as you said happen too often in real life and if it happens in anime it kind of remind them of it.
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As a hopeless romantic I actually like NTR, Kamihime has that stuff, it helped me deal with my own insecurity ^^.
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NthDegree said:
Out of curiosity, can someone explain to be why is NTR particularly traumatizing? It seems pretty tame to me compared to a lot of weird fetishes out there. It's not any more graphic than other types of hentai and since when have people actually taken hentai plots seriously? So what's the big fuss?

Personally I'm just kinda indifferent to it.
When Aki-Sora's "swinger chapter" was released, large parts of the fan-base completely lost their mind — not because Sora was dragged into a sex party without his knowledge or consent, not because he was drugged, not because he was stripped naked whilst drugged, not because he was raped after that point( — though, Sora being Sora eventually grew to enjoy it). No, they were mad because the party featured a female character that had sex with another character than Sora pretty much, which qualified it as "n.t.r.".

It's not about "fetish"; it's about that a large part of the viewerbase consumes this entertainment on the basis of self-insert wish-fulfillment: the viewer wants to vicariously experience a phantasy he knows he will never have in real life, of a large "harem" of attractive suitors — in the real world, that harem will neither come, and should the time come that one will finally be raped, it most likely won't be by a man so attractive that one secretly enjoys it.

"n.t.r." is the complete opposite of that, of course.

I will also say that there is "actual n.t.r." where the story is written to invite the audience to self-insert into a particular character, who then gets cheated upon or something similar and the "n.t.r." that gets shouted simply when a character that is <not the sex of the audience> decides to do anything sexual with another character than <the character the audience has self-inserted into>.

I've seen a very common criticism on the ending of Queen's Artist that supposedly it has an "n.t.r." ending — all that happens is that of the four main characters two of them get together in the end which was part of a large arc of both them; it just so happens that neither of those two is the one teenage male member of the main cast which is probably the demographic the audience is the most likely to self-insert into, even though his arc was trying to become a comic book artist, not find love, which was the arc of the two that got together.

Even if the audience had self-inserted themselves to one of the characters, hardships such as heartbreak happen to relatable characters all the time and usually those moments gets praised as exciting. It's just the basic ingredients of a drama and people usually enjoy those, so I'm not seeing why NTR would be anything special. Especially not in hentai where the plot isn't even the point. How much can it really affect you if you have known the any given love interest for like 10 minutes beforehand? I wish I could care that fast about fictional characters...
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NthDegree said:
Sphinxter said:
When Aki-Sora's "swinger chapter" was released, large parts of the fan-base completely lost their mind — not because Sora was dragged into a sex party without his knowledge or consent, not because he was drugged, not because he was stripped naked whilst drugged, not because he was raped after that point( — though, Sora being Sora eventually grew to enjoy it). No, they were mad because the party featured a female character that had sex with another character than Sora pretty much, which qualified it as "n.t.r.".

It's not about "fetish"; it's about that a large part of the viewerbase consumes this entertainment on the basis of self-insert wish-fulfillment: the viewer wants to vicariously experience a phantasy he knows he will never have in real life, of a large "harem" of attractive suitors — in the real world, that harem will neither come, and should the time come that one will finally be raped, it most likely won't be by a man so attractive that one secretly enjoys it.

"n.t.r." is the complete opposite of that, of course.

I will also say that there is "actual n.t.r." where the story is written to invite the audience to self-insert into a particular character, who then gets cheated upon or something similar and the "n.t.r." that gets shouted simply when a character that is <not the sex of the audience> decides to do anything sexual with another character than <the character the audience has self-inserted into>.

I've seen a very common criticism on the ending of Queen's Artist that supposedly it has an "n.t.r." ending — all that happens is that of the four main characters two of them get together in the end which was part of a large arc of both them; it just so happens that neither of those two is the one teenage male member of the main cast which is probably the demographic the audience is the most likely to self-insert into, even though his arc was trying to become a comic book artist, not find love, which was the arc of the two that got together.

Even if the audience had self-inserted themselves to one of the characters, hardships such as heartbreak happen to relatable characters all the time and usually those moments gets praised as exciting.
Depends on if one want to watch something for a good story or for vicarious wish fulfillment — certainly you have noticed that quite a lot of media exists largely for the latter.

Even in stories without a clear perspective character there is a very high odd that if there is a romantic rivalry of some sorts, even if said rivalry stands no chance that it will be a rival to a character that meets the audience demographic not. Notice for instance that in The Pet Girl of Sakurasou there is plenty of romantic rivalry but it's always about a teenage male; the teenage males never have any rivals themselves. This is almost certainly done by design: whilst the majority of the audience probably cares not about it, why would they take the risk and alienate more viewers? The characters whom the viewer is most likely to self-insert into are almost always those that face the least romantic rivalry, and when they actually face it, it is indeed often called "n.t.r." by a large portion of the fan-base, and they turn off the t.v. — so obviously a lot of studios aren't wliling to risk it.

It's just the basic ingredients of a drama and people usually enjoy those, so I'm not seeing why NTR would be anything special. Especially not in hentai where the plot isn't even the point. How much can it really affect you if you have known the any given love interest for like 10 minutes beforehand? I wish I could care that fast about fictional characters...
I'm not saying I agree with the criticism — far from it, but I'm explaining the reasons behind it. I agree that proper romantic rivalry can service the plot. Animation studios however live in the real world where profits are to be made: it might even be a vocal minority that does this, but it's significant enough that it affects profits turn it the t.v. off after the character it has self-inserted into experiences heartbreak or romantic competition.

As I said: the reactions of the swinger-party chapter of Aki-Sora were quite remarkable, how a large portion reacted to that, and claimed to drop the series thereafter.
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You coward, you should have finished it
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Sphinxter said:
NthDegree said:

Even if the audience had self-inserted themselves to one of the characters, hardships such as heartbreak happen to relatable characters all the time and usually those moments gets praised as exciting.
Depends on if one want to watch something for a good story or for vicarious wish fulfillment — certainly you have noticed that quite a lot of media exists largely for the latter.

Even in stories without a clear perspective character there is a very high odd that if there is a romantic rivalry of some sorts, even if said rivalry stands no chance that it will be a rival to a character that meets the audience demographic not. Notice for instance that in The Pet Girl of Sakurasou there is plenty of romantic rivalry but it's always about a teenage male; the teenage males never have any rivals themselves. This is almost certainly done by design: whilst the majority of the audience probably cares not about it, why would they take the risk and alienate more viewers? The characters whom the viewer is most likely to self-insert into are almost always those that face the least romantic rivalry, and when they actually face it, it is indeed often called "n.t.r." by a large portion of the fan-base, and they turn off the t.v. — so obviously a lot of studios aren't wliling to risk it.

It's just the basic ingredients of a drama and people usually enjoy those, so I'm not seeing why NTR would be anything special. Especially not in hentai where the plot isn't even the point. How much can it really affect you if you have known the any given love interest for like 10 minutes beforehand? I wish I could care that fast about fictional characters...
I'm not saying I agree with the criticism — far from it, but I'm explaining the reasons behind it. I agree that proper romantic rivalry can service the plot. Animation studios however live in the real world where profits are to be made: it might even be a vocal minority that does this, but it's significant enough that it affects profits turn it the t.v. off after the character it has self-inserted into experiences heartbreak or romantic competition.

As I said: the reactions of the swinger-party chapter of Aki-Sora were quite remarkable, how a large portion reacted to that, and claimed to drop the series thereafter.
Sadly this is true, people have become like lions guarding their pride,whenever someone else shows up it makes them feel like they are under attack.
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Ah yes, "accidentally" reading hentai.

Mind sharing it's name? It's uh, for scientific research.
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Depends on if one want to watch something for a good story or for vicarious wish fulfillment — certainly you have noticed that quite a lot of media exists largely for the latter.

Even in stories without a clear perspective character there is a very high odd that if there is a romantic rivalry of some sorts, even if said rivalry stands no chance that it will be a rival to a character that meets the audience demographic not. Notice for instance that in The Pet Girl of Sakurasou there is plenty of romantic rivalry but it's always about a teenage male; the teenage males never have any rivals themselves. This is almost certainly done by design: whilst the majority of the audience probably cares not about it, why would they take the risk and alienate more viewers? The characters whom the viewer is most likely to self-insert into are almost always those that face the least romantic rivalry, and when they actually face it, it is indeed often called "n.t.r." by a large portion of the fan-base, and they turn off the t.v. — so obviously a lot of studios aren't wliling to risk it.

I'm not saying I agree with the criticism — far from it, but I'm explaining the reasons behind it. I agree that proper romantic rivalry can service the plot. Animation studios however live in the real world where profits are to be made: it might even be a vocal minority that does this, but it's significant enough that it affects profits turn it the t.v. off after the character it has self-inserted into experiences heartbreak or romantic competition.

As I said: the reactions of the swinger-party chapter of Aki-Sora were quite remarkable, how a large portion reacted to that, and claimed to drop the series thereafter.
Sadly this is true, people have become like lions guarding their pride,whenever someone else shows up it makes them feel like they are under attack.
The vicarious self-insertion works both ways apparently; the self-inserter vicariously experiences both the joys and pains of whomever he inserts himself into.


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How do you accidentally read a hentai.. you have to physically click on a hentai, and then read all 15 or so pages to get to the end

I second this, how do you "accidentally" read Hentai? That makes NO sense to me lol
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I know that feel. Once I accidentally watched Naruto and got PTSD and chronic diarrhea

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I mean, it would be a somewhat decent bait if you hadn't just registered 2 days ago to post this. Put it in the effort mate, good things are worth waiting for.
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How do you accidentally read a hentai.. you have to physically click on a hentai, and then read all 15 or so pages to get to the end

I second this, how do you "accidentally" read Hentai? That makes NO sense to me lol
Obviously o.p. means having read an accidental n.t.r. comic — as in not initially knowing it was n.t.r. till the very end.

This isn't that hard, gentlemen.


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Obviously o.p. means having read an accidental n.t.r. comic — as in not initially knowing it was n.t.r. till the very end.

This isn't that hard, gentlemen.


Nowadays you really can't miss the tags on these kind of media online. Unless the "story" just got recently released or posted and the tags weren't fully updated yet. It's iether that or the original poster just wants some attention. It's not like the orginal poster has a fresh MAL account. Sounds a bit fishy to me, so in my opinion he just want some attention and he never read "accidentally" a NTR story.
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Obviously o.p. means having read an accidental n.t.r. comic — as in not initially knowing it was n.t.r. till the very end.

This isn't that hard, gentlemen.


Nowadays you really can't miss the tags on these kind of media online. Unless the "story" just got recently released or posted and the tags weren't fully updated yet. It's iether that or the original poster just wants some attention. It's not like the orginal poster has a fresh MAL account. Sounds a bit fishy to me, so in my opinion he just want some attention and he never read "accidentally" a NTR story.
Missing the tags would exactly be what make it "accidental"; I rarely read the tags myself.


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Yeah this does sound really clickbaity, he must not have read the tags or has a hard time understanding story flow.
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So.... what's the name of it...? Just for research purposes and such.
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@Sphinxter The problem is, I was not asking why the authors make or don't make romantic rivals for the characters, I was asking what makes it so traumatizing to the people who do find it upsetting.

The interesting thing about your notion of the "teenage male" never having any rivals is... That only applies to shounen romance. In shoujo rivals of both genders tend to be common. For example, the latest arc of Skip Beat manga is centered around the male lead being kissed by another woman aside from the MC who the audience is supposed to relate with. I wonder why it doesn't happen more often in shounen with other male characters?
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@Sphinxter The problem is, I was not asking why the authors make or don't make romantic rivals for the characters, I was asking what makes it so traumatizing to the people who do find it upsetting.
Well the answer is obvious: it's the same thing why no other really bad thing ever happens to the character; it's not particularly special in that regard. The audience self-inserts and thus experiences the pains alongside the joys.

The interesting thing about your notion of the "teenage male" never having any rivals is... That only applies to shounen romance. In shoujo rivals of both genders tend to be common. For example, the latest arc of Skip Beat manga is centered around the male lead being kissed by another woman aside from the MC who the audience is supposed to relate with. I wonder why it doesn't happen more often in shounen with other male characters?
That has not been my experience at all. In syouzyo's they also typically feature a very average female protagonist that gets sexually harassed by a battalion of very attractive males, who faces little to no competition


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Sep 22, 2019 3:25 PM

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Sphinxter said:
NthDegree said:
@Sphinxter The problem is, I was not asking why the authors make or don't make romantic rivals for the characters, I was asking what makes it so traumatizing to the people who do find it upsetting.
Well the answer is obvious: it's the same thing why no other really bad thing ever happens to the character; it's not particularly special in that regard. The audience self-inserts and thus experiences the pains alongside the joys.

The interesting thing about your notion of the "teenage male" never having any rivals is... That only applies to shounen romance. In shoujo rivals of both genders tend to be common. For example, the latest arc of Skip Beat manga is centered around the male lead being kissed by another woman aside from the MC who the audience is supposed to relate with. I wonder why it doesn't happen more often in shounen with other male characters?
That has not been my experience at all. In syouzyo's they also typically feature a very average female protagonist that gets sexually harassed by a battalion of very attractive males, who faces little to no competition

You have been clearly watching just reverse harems which is a very specific subgenre of shoujo. Outside that particular subgenre basically if a shoujo is pure romance and the main characters get together relatively early, the chances are you are going to find a female love rival that's gonna test their relationship.

For example, in Kimi ni Todoke you have Ume, in Ao Haru Ride you have Yuuri, in Sukitte Ii Na Yo you have Megumi and Miki (+ every other female character in the show). The biggest of these is probably Nana where
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NthDegree said:
Sphinxter said:
Well the answer is obvious: it's the same thing why no other really bad thing ever happens to the character; it's not particularly special in that regard. The audience self-inserts and thus experiences the pains alongside the joys.

That has not been my experience at all. In syouzyo's they also typically feature a very average female protagonist that gets sexually harassed by a battalion of very attractive males, who faces little to no competition

You have been clearly watching just reverse harems which is a very specific subgenre of shoujo. Outside that particular subgenre basically if a shoujo is pure romance and the main characters get together relatively early, the chances are you are going to find a female love rival that's gonna test their relationship.

For example, in Kimi ni Todoke you have Ume, in Ao Haru Ride you have Yuuri, in Sukitte Ii Na Yo you have Megumi and Miki (+ every other female character in the show). The biggest of these is probably Nana where
This does beg into question something that has been tugging at me for a long time. When the guy in anime flirts around with many girls no one bats an eye (Harem protag) but when the girl does it, people start to have an issue with it
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NthDegree said:
Sphinxter said:
Well the answer is obvious: it's the same thing why no other really bad thing ever happens to the character; it's not particularly special in that regard. The audience self-inserts and thus experiences the pains alongside the joys.

That has not been my experience at all. In syouzyo's they also typically feature a very average female protagonist that gets sexually harassed by a battalion of very attractive males, who faces little to no competition

You have been clearly watching just reverse harems which is a very specific subgenre of shoujo. Outside that particular subgenre basically if a shoujo is pure romance and the main characters get together relatively early, the chances are you are going to find a female love rival that's gonna test their relationship.
Well, I disagree; I only watched one harem syouzyo( Ouran), and that went not even that far. I'm talking about: [i]Sailor Moon[i], Super Pig, Teacher's Pet, Nozaki-Kun; they all feature this pattern.

For example, in Kimi ni Todoke you have Ume, in Ao Haru Ride you have Yuuri, in Sukitte Ii Na Yo you have Megumi and Miki (+ every other female character in the show). The biggest of these is probably Nana where
Well, one can always list counter-examples; and I can list many counter-examples in syounen work as well, but the general trend is simply pulling around, and not against the character the audience is most likely to self-insert into.


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As the title said, i'm having a trauma after accidentally reading a NTR hentai. To the point that whenever i watch an romcom anime/manga, i always have the thought that the girls would be taken by someone elses. It's like i know about what's on the screen but don't know what's happening in the background or even in the future of that anime/manga and i hate it, very hate it. It's making me cannot enjoy anime/manga as i used to. I need a cure, maybe something can convince me that NTR won't never happen if they do not mention it it anime/manga. Or whatever method can take away my obsession. Pls help me, i have been in depression for almost like 2 weeks and haven't been able to watched any anime since then. Thank all.

Edit: I didn't finish it, when i sensed the smell of NTR, i immediately checked the tags and read the comments then dropped it, the tags hadn't been completed at the time i read it....
can I get a source or what, I gotta read it now

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Ah yes, "accidentally" reading hentai.

Mind sharing it's name? It's uh, for scientific research.

Ok, i have said about "accidentally" part many times and i won't say about it again, if you want to know how, pls read the post again. I do not remember the hentai's name but it's artist is Matsukawa
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Gythia said:
How do you accidentally read a hentai.. you have to physically click on a hentai, and then read all 15 or so pages to get to the end

I second this, how do you "accidentally" read Hentai? That makes NO sense to me lol

In the post content, i already said something like this:
Edit: I didn't finish it, when i sensed the smell of NTR, i immediately checked the tags and read the comments then dropped it, the tags hadn't been completed at the time i read it....
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Kamihimehunter said:
Yeah this does sound really clickbaity, he must not have read the tags or has a hard time understanding story flow.

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I mean, it would be a somewhat decent bait if you hadn't just registered 2 days ago to post this. Put it in the effort mate, good things are worth waiting for.
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Nowadays you really can't miss the tags on these kind of media online. Unless the "story" just got recently released or posted and the tags weren't fully updated yet. It's iether that or the original poster just wants some attention. It's not like the orginal poster has a fresh MAL account. Sounds a bit fishy to me, so in my opinion he just want some attention and he never read "accidentally" a NTR story.


Kamihimehunter said:
Yeah this does sound really clickbaity, he must not have read the tags or has a hard time understanding story flow.


I hope this is the last time i have to say this: THIS IS NOT A BAIT POST. I'm actually suffering the consequences of reading that Hentai. I don't mind giving you guys some pictures of mine showing what have i become after weeks living in stress
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can I get a source or what, I gotta read it now

It's artist is Matsukawa, sry for not remembering it's name
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