| err if there is an answer to this then sturgeons law will not exist that says 90% of everything is trash |
Psajdak said: - as always, this thread of mine is only for people who don't have Homura Akemi in favorites, or are born before 1995 Anyway, I was just wondering, how does one create something that will be accepted, favorited, acclaimed, and one day maybe classic, or long lasting franchise...? Think Lupin III, or Gundam. How did they bottled that lightning? Discuss. Homura Akemi is literally bae. This thread is trash. Are you trying to rival that nihilist goof for worst threads on AD? |
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Johan said: Psajdak said: - as always, this thread of mine is only for people who don't have Homura Akemi in favorites, or are born before 1995 Anyway, I was just wondering, how does one create something that will be accepted, favorited, acclaimed, and one day maybe classic, or long lasting franchise...? Think Lupin III, or Gundam. How did they bottled that lightning? Discuss. Homura Akemi is literally bae. This thread is trash. Are you trying to rival that nihilist goof for worst threads on AD? There's a poll for the worst thread on AD? |
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| I think in a lot of cases it's being the 'first' to do something, even if others after it have done it better. Dragon Ball, Evangelion, Akira, JoJo's etc are all well respected for that reason. |
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Dave_Adrian said: Johan said: Homura Akemi is literally bae. This thread is trash. Are you trying to rival that nihilist goof for worst threads on AD? There's a poll for the worst thread on AD? LOL, I should create one, innit? Content has been terrible recently. |
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I'm voting for "Anime is becoming more SJW" threads to be the worst, |
Yeah brah, I went to Anime NYC last year (2018) and some goofy guy made a fool of himself in front of an English VA panel about how censorship was "runining" anime and how "pc" it was becoming. These political correctness fags don't realise they're literally just as obnoxious and cringy as the SJWs. |
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Johan said: Yeah brah, I went to Anime NYC last year (2018) and some goofy guy made a fool of himself in front of an English VA panel about how censorship was "runining" anime and how "pc" it was becoming. These political correctness fags don't realise they're literally just as obnoxious and cringy as the SJWs. yuppp shit is getting too cringy up in here! They seriously don't realize that they're becoming as toxic as SJWs... |
Psajdak said: 1. Who are THEY?No, seriously, what did THEY do right? While OTHERS failed miserably? - as always, this thread of mine is only for people who don't have Homura Akemi in favorites, or are born before 1995 Anyway, I was just wondering, how does one create something that will be accepted, favorited, acclaimed, and one day maybe classic, or long lasting franchise...? Think Lupin III, or Gundam. How did they bottled that lightning? Discuss. 2. What if I have Homura Akemi in my favorites AND was born before 1995? 3. luck |
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Psajdak said: born before 1995 But why? Psajdak said: Think Lupin III, or Gundam. Ironically created way way before 1995. I guess pre 90s products are build to withstand a direct nuclear hit or something. |
| It has to have atmosphere, nice ost, cinematography (cool shots and camera angles), fluid animation, characters that said or made something special. It's about putting soul into it. For ex look at prison school, it's a ridiculous story but it has all of the above, so people watch it and they are entertained, at the polar opposite you have grand blue, funny story but no atmosphere, no cool sounds, just a manga adaptation lacking soul. Homura is not that bad. |
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| If you're talking about a true classic you need the following: 1) A plot that is easy to follow. This allows more people to watch and enjoy your anime, even if it's at the simplest of levels. 2) An underlying message that's not hamfisted. A subject that's brought to the table for everyone to discuss, the more ambiguous you leave it, the better. 3) Interesting and deep characters. Basically avoid the "I wanna be Hokage, I'll be friends with everyone and I'll save the world" kind of character. Make them either more human or so out there that they're interesting. 4) Somewhat optional. Add philosophy and/or psychology to your story. You gotta do it right or you risk failing at point 1). 5) Another optional. Metaphors. Another tricky one, you can add metaphors to aid point 2). But some metaphors are so obvious that end up hurting more than adding value. |
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| Well, being memorable will definitely help. Say what you will about Evangelion, you're not gonna forget it, and that's why people are still talking about it. Lupin III is a very memorable character surrounded by other memorable characters, which, I believe, is a major reason for the popularity of the franchise, which in turn has given it the status of a classic. On the other hand, very few of those dime-a-dozen visual novel adaptations from the mid-2000s are remembered by people today. There's Clannad, but that's about it. Something can't be a classic if people don't remember it. |
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Johan said: Psajdak said: - as always, this thread of mine is only for people who don't have Homura Akemi in favorites, or are born before 1995 Anyway, I was just wondering, how does one create something that will be accepted, favorited, acclaimed, and one day maybe classic, or long lasting franchise...? Think Lupin III, or Gundam. How did they bottled that lightning? Discuss. Homura Akemi is literally bae. This thread is trash. Are you trying to rival that nihilist goof for worst threads on AD? The nihilist goof is "safeanew" right? I just had to confirm this because that dude is the absolute worst. |
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| The real deal is when a genius plot and setting has occurred and the characters are just flowing and also developing with the plot, like DN Dragon Ball and stuff, but when it's a weak and ordinary plot that tries to be a success it will probably won't be that good, because the successful-hit series usually comes with the nature and originality of the authors, and that's all, successful-hit series don't come with talent but good author that using his skills at the most creating his own originally plot so it doesn't seem like "copying" the same style although it may be orthodox. Also, there's what was said earlier that if its something new it will be a hit, but if it one of many other genre-like it is depending on what I had said. |
Truxton_MD said: But what about all the works that get older but aren't remembered?nothing, it's just called getting older and being remembered. nothing makes these works different. Shadowgon said: I don't remember Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star ever being all that young, realistic or full of life, but he is a very iconic character whose adventures are still being adapted today despite the manga concluding in 1988. He has a lot of personality, however, which is probably more important to becoming a classic than the details of what that personality is.One thing that matters as others may have mentioned is the importance of characters and themes. First, for an anime to be even memorable, the characters have to be young, realistic and full of life (think Giorno, Luffy, and Naruto). |
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| It's really not that difficult to comprehend how something reaches that pedestal. On top of having something special and uncommon that will grab people' s attention the actual circumstances of the community and studio, broadcasting etc. influence its future greately. And I don't know what your conditions for discussing in this thread are all about. |
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| The lack of too many choices at the time is one of the reasons why those anime are now classics. Back in the 70's and 80's, you'd get like 4 or 5 anime per season at best. It's much harder for an anime to become a classic now because there's way too much content out there. Anime are forgotten quickly, no matter how good they are, long before they get to "marinade" in the consciousness of the fandom without being distracted by something new and shiny, often which is pretty similar to the previous ones. |
| Unnn, I don't think it will have a certain answer |
Truxton_MD said: But what is the difference between the works that get remembered and the ones that don't get remembered? From every era there are some works that become classics and a lot that don't. Is there an inherent difference between those?Vilkku92 said: But what about all the works that get older but aren't remembered? What about them? Point being, there's tons of memorable works from the current era that will very likely be considered classics in the not too distant future as well, there is nothing inherently separating the timeless works of yesteryear with their more recently made contemporaries. |
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