| https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-46885707/rent-a-sister-coaxing-japan-s-hikikomori-out-of-their-rooms It's about 12 min. It's a company that has girls (and occasionally guys) go over to some hikikomori's home and try to talk to talk them into coming out and get a job. So do you think this is a good thing or just amateurish and exploitive? I think all those apply really. This does nothing to solve the root of the problems in society that lead to this in the first place. |
| its a good thing since our economy capitalism is about work for cash if you are not a capitalist so financial security is important most of hikkikomoris are not schizophrenics from what i know and if they have mental illness then its more of neurosis (mild mental illness) like anxiety |
| I find it a good idea If one is hikkikomori due to loneliness or relationship trauma, meeting someone caring and beautiful could help motivating you to go outside. Which then could lead to that person meeting new people and being able to build up a life again. Sometimes it's just what someone needs, a gentle push in the back to move forward. Although in situations like severe mental illness it may not work as well. |
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| Onii-chan, stop being depressed and fulfill your duty to the civilization. It can be a good thing, but rubs me as a bit exploitative. This might make me feel worse, personally. |
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| I'm jealous at the fact that Hikkikomori can somehow sustain themselves without holding a job and just staying at home all day. |
| This is so dumb, but Japan's pretty screwed with crap like this so whatevs |
| seems a bit weird (sisters? really?) but, if it works- |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
MasterGlyth said: Onii-chan, stop being depressed and fulfill your duty to the civilization. It can be a good thing, but rubs me as a bit exploitative. This might make me feel worse, personally. I know. The fact someone had to be paid to even bother seeing you and that "it's just a job" as one girl put it. Ranacchi said: I find it a good idea If one is hikkikomori due to loneliness or relationship trauma, meeting someone caring and beautiful could help motivating you to go outside. Which then could lead to that person meeting new people and being able to build up a life again. Sometimes it's just what someone needs, a gentle push in the back to move forward. Although in situations like severe mental illness it may not work as well. I don't think it would convince everyone for reasons stated to MasterGlyth. |
| What? Rent-a-sister, this is a very disturbing name. Especially so since it comes from Japan. Well, personally I'd feel horrible thinking of myself as a scum that's nothing more than a burden for society in that scenario, but if it helps some people then I've no issue with it. |
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| The State must improve working conditions and clone Misaki. |
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| Oh for fucks sakes just deal with it like you do with getting loyal addicts to your narcotic products. Like, have state sanctioned prostitutes give them some booty for free, then, afterwards they must work so many hours to get more booty. Problem solved. I always look forward to payday myself, not because of the money but because my girl friends boyfriend lets me have sex with her. In fact... I am thinking of running for PM in Japan. My platform will be CREAMPIES FOR THE HIKKIMORI AND THE ELDERLY ARE GONNA PAY FOR IT! Make Japan great again!!! |
SoverignJan 21, 2019 5:46 PM
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| If it works, it works? Modern problems require modern solutions. |
Orhunaa said: What? Rent-a-sister, this is a very disturbing name. Especially so since it comes from Japan. Well, personally I'd feel horrible thinking of myself as a scum that's nothing more than a burden for society in that scenario, but if it helps some people then I've no issue with it. Because you have a dirty mind. It's more like rent a sisterly friend would be closer to meaning. |
| Wait, are the people who act as sisters paid workers or volunteers? I feel like it would be better if people who genuinely want to help someone would be better than someone being paid, I mean it'd be harder to find volunteers but this doesn't seem that great either. I think this would create more problems, in all honesty, it's fake sincerity, no matter how hard the workers work the client will probably feel deceived at the end and go back into their old habits. |
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BackstageMage said: Wait, are the people who act as sisters paid workers or volunteers? I feel like it would be better if people who genuinely want to help someone would be better than someone being paid, I mean it'd be harder to find volunteers but this doesn't seem that great either. I think this would create more problems, in all honesty, it's fake sincerity, no matter how hard the workers work the client will probably feel deceived at the end and go back into their old habits. They are paid. It's a business. |
| Someone really liked NHK, I guess. I doubt this'll work on 95% of real hikikomori. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
traed said: Orhunaa said: What? Rent-a-sister, this is a very disturbing name. Especially so since it comes from Japan. Well, personally I'd feel horrible thinking of myself as a scum that's nothing more than a burden for society in that scenario, but if it helps some people then I've no issue with it. Because you have a dirty mind. It's more like rent a sisterly friend would be closer to meaning. Sure I'm not gonna deny that but isn't this the same country that has this as well as the whole enjo-kosai business? I dunno, my concern seems warranted. |
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| Wait, what? So Ayako just married one of her clients? Seems like the rules are rather lax on this "Rent-a-sister" business. I think this video is keeping some things from us. @Orhunaa might actually have a point here. Regardless, according to the video, it's worked for some people (I'm still curious about the success/fail ratio, though), so whatever if it isn't quite as wholesome as the video lets on. Anyway, I wonder:did Welcome to the NHK predicted this business or was it inspired by it? |
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| I find it weird, sure there are other sollutions to the problem that we don't know. All in all, get in the office chair shinji! |
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Orhunaa said: traed said: Because you have a dirty mind. It's more like rent a sisterly friend would be closer to meaning. Sure I'm not gonna deny that but isn't this the same country that has this as well as the whole enjo-kosai business? I dunno, my concern seems warranted. It's an oddly complicated culture. Pretty sure they use girls because they are less intimidating feeling. I know I would rather a girl show up than some guy. BatoKusanagi said: Wait, what? So Ayako just married one of her clients? Seems like the rules are rather lax on this "Rent-a-sister" business. I think this video is keeping some things from us. @Orhunaa might actually have a point here. Regardless, according to the video, it's worked for some people (I'm still curious about the success/fail ratio, though), so whatever if it isn't quite as wholesome as the video lets on. Anyway, I wonder:did Welcome to the NHK predicted this business or was it inspired by it? I doubt it's an escort thing. That would just keep them in their room even more. Why go out when you have home order girls? Where is the motivation? Nothing to do with Welcome to the NHK. It's more related to at home visits of doctors and teachers. It's pretty normal in Japan for this sort of thing to spring up i would think. |
| I gotta find top quality doujinshi for this kind of fetish uwu |
| Girls exploiting lonely guys for money. Whats new? |
deg said: its a good thing since our economy capitalism is about work for cash if you are not a capitalist so financial security is important most of hikkikomoris are not schizophrenics from what i know and if they have mental illness then its more of neurosis (mild mental illness) like anxiety In capitalism you either work or starve. Glorious communism is superior, since it allows you to do both. |
Fijure said: deg said: its a good thing since our economy capitalism is about work for cash if you are not a capitalist so financial security is important most of hikkikomoris are not schizophrenics from what i know and if they have mental illness then its more of neurosis (mild mental illness) like anxiety In capitalism you either work or starve. Glorious communism is superior, since it allows you to do both. 1. China and the USSR had droughts and crop disease like they would have under any other goverment. 2. The USSR had the largest growth in GDP while the rest of the world was in a depression. 3. This thread isn't about communism. Stop derailing. 4. The countries you"re probably thinking of never were communist. 5. There are plenty of people that work that are below poverty level. |
Fijure said: deg said: its a good thing since our economy capitalism is about work for cash if you are not a capitalist so financial security is important most of hikkikomoris are not schizophrenics from what i know and if they have mental illness then its more of neurosis (mild mental illness) like anxiety In capitalism you either work or starve. Glorious communism is superior, since it allows you to do both. the technology (full automation) is not ready yet for communism to work |
traed said: I doubt it's an escort thing. That would just keep them in their room even more. Why go out when you have home order girls? Where is the motivation? Nothing to do with Welcome to the NHK. It's more related to at home visits of doctors and teachers. It's pretty normal in Japan for this sort of thing to spring up i would think. Would you really spend some lewd times with an escort in your parents' house? There's your motivation. Regardless, what I was getting at with my comment is that getting romantically involved (or you could say getting involved past a certain point) with someone in the vulnerable emotional state that those hikkikomori are in could be seen as exploitative or at the very least unprofessional. Well, like I said, for the parents paying it probably doesn't matter if some of their money was used to pay for love hotels. Question was facetious, didn't have to take it seriously. |
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Fijure said: Fijure-chan, surely there must be a third way?...deg said: its a good thing since our economy capitalism is about work for cash if you are not a capitalist so financial security is important most of hikkikomoris are not schizophrenics from what i know and if they have mental illness then its more of neurosis (mild mental illness) like anxiety In capitalism you either work or starve. Glorious communism is superior, since it allows you to do both.   Back on topic: many of them are hikikomoris because of Japan's oppressive work culture, so "getting jobs" is what many of them are trying to avoid. Japan's work culture needs to change and they need more family-owned and small businesses instead of multinational corporations. This is an issue in the west too, but Japan takes it to extremes. |
Lost_VikingJan 23, 2019 7:04 PM
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BatoKusanagi said: Regardless, what I was getting at with my comment is that getting romantically involved (or you could say getting involved past a certain point) with someone in the vulnerable emotional state that those hikkikomori are in could be seen as exploitative or at the very least unprofessional. I don't think it's inherently exploitive to go into a romantic relationship with someone troubled. Everyone is troubled in some way. It's more a matter of intent and level of cognitive capability. Lost_Viking said: Back on topic: many of them are hikikomoris because of Japan's oppressive work culture, so "getting jobs" is what many of them are trying to avoid. Japan's work culture needs to change and they need more family-owned and small businesses instead of multinational corporations. This is an issue in the west too, but Japan takes it to extremes. It plays a big role in the case of Japan but it's not the only cause. Many mental illnesses cause isolation. Anyway the structure of small businesses is no different tham the structure of large businesses all are forcing people into a submissive role under a hierarchy. Small businesses can be run just as cold heartedly and negligently as big ones if it's what the manager and owner wants. |
traed said: I don't think it's inherently exploitive to go into a romantic relationship with someone troubled. Everyone is troubled in some way. It's more a matter of intent and level of cognitive capability. You're generalizing. Not everyone is a hikkikomori and not everyone is getting life coached by one of these "sisters". The intent or cognitive capability doesn't matter, the business isn't Tinder (or if it is, the video doesn't show it), so it's at least a bit strange that the company managing the service doesn't seem to have a problem with Ayako hooking up with the guy. Funnily enough, one of the "sisters" says that it's only a job, (they go it, do their thing and then the client is on his own to tackle life), clearly for Ayako it got more personal than that. Well, it did work for them, it seems, but I just don't see how Rent-a-sister could possibly hope to properly asses if it's fine to date your client (at least, maybe, without hiring actual professionals to oversee the whole thing, which would just make business really bloated). Also, in case of any eventuality (like one of these hikkikomori actually getting taken for a ride), you would want it to be clear that your business doesn't condone those actions. |
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BatoKusanagi said: traed said: I don't think it's inherently exploitive to go into a romantic relationship with someone troubled. Everyone is troubled in some way. It's more a matter of intent and level of cognitive capability. You're generalizing. Not everyone is a hikkikomori and not everyone is getting life coached by one of these "sisters". The intent or cognitive capability doesn't matter, the business isn't Tinder (or if it is, the video doesn't show it), so it's at least a bit strange that the company managing the service doesn't seem to have a problem with Ayako hooking up with the guy. Funnily enough, one of the "sisters" says that it's only a job, (they go it, do their thing and then the client is on his own to tackle life), clearly for Ayako it got more personal than that. Well, it did work for them, it seems, but I just don't see how Rent-a-sister could possibly hope to properly asses if it's fine to date your client (at least, maybe, without hiring actual professionals to oversee the whole thing, which would just make business really bloated). Also, in case of any eventuality (like one of these hikkikomori actually getting taken for a ride), you would want it to be clear that your business doesn't condone those actions. The guy was more like a past client from how the story was told. Basically they grew close, she convinced him to work for the company too, they started dating around then, then got married. I see nothing weird about it. What I think is weird is workplaces dictating people's private lives. |
traed said: The guy was more like a past client from how the story was told. Basically they grew close, she convinced him to work for the company too, they started dating around then, then got married. I see nothing weird about it. What I think is weird is workplaces dictating people's private lives. My reading of the story is it all happened when he was, at the time, at the New Start dormitories, so not exactly in the past. It was still on the job, which what I find strange about this whole affair. Either way, Rent-a-sister doesn't seem concerned with these questions, and just the fact that it was highlighted in this documentary says a lot. Sure, your workplace shouldn't dictate how much sleep you can get at night, but it's fine for them to tell you not to sleep on the job, if you catch my drift. There's also the more general point I made at the end of my comment that is also important to consider beyond Ayako's case. |
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| Literally Imouto sae Ireba Ii (A Sister's All You Need) Ok maybe replace imouto with onee/onii/otouto depending on which. I mean if it works it works. Plus $900 for 4 hours of work with no training needed? Sign me up lmao. |
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Reina_Orikasa said: Literally Imouto sae Ireba Ii (A Sister's All You Need) Ok maybe replace imouto with onee/onii/otouto depending on which. I mean if it works it works. Plus $900 for 4 hours of work with no training needed? Sign me up lmao. They have a small amount on job training but yeah the pricing is pretty insane especially how amateurish they seem. |
MasterGlyth said: Onii-chan, stop being depressed and fulfill your duty to the civilization. It can be a good thing, but rubs me as a bit exploitative. This might make me feel worse, personally. This. If I was a shut-in then this would bring me to leave the house to buy extra locks for the front door. |
| It's almost like Japan is in a kind of desperation mode to an extent. They've been experiencing population decline for a while now plus having a social withdrawal epidemic. Japan being the way they are, are taking a creative approach with the Rent-A-Sister companies. I don't see anything wrong with them or exploitative, but there do need to be work and societal changes in order to fix the hikikomori problem. Not having the problem be so stigmatized would help because people want to keep it a family matter and that always isn't the solution. Some stories I've read say the burst of Japan's bubble economy lead to this, dependency of parents up to a certain age, and societal expectations. It is a complicated issue and there is no quick fix and it's good people are trying to figure out ways to help people combat this. Japan needs to do something a little widespread than just beat around the bush with this. |
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Sounds like the matrix agents, trying to bring these guys back to the Matrix. I can't see any real HikiNEET taking the bluepill so easily like that, there are friends, family, etc, that really try hard on that issue, why would a stranger's words be more effective? |
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| sounds like a whoring service, more like rent a cunt |
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