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Aug 15, 2018 4:30 PM
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Margraven said:
Suzuha beat the teacher.
"Suzuha stop or you will be like him"
But Suzuha kill alot of ppls before.

Don't make sense... anti-climax scene.


In the previous episodes, they were building Daru up to be an impressive character, but this episode ruined that.
 
Aug 15, 2018 5:16 PM

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Margraven said:
Suzuha beat the teacher.
"Suzuha stop or you will be like him"
But Suzuha kill alot of ppls before.

Don't make sense... anti-climax scene.


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In the previous episodes, they were building Daru up to be an impressive character, but this episode ruined that.


I think its because Suzuha is punching unarmed Leskinen over and over for his suffering, she even said "it's too early to get knocked out", which is an act for a revenge to Kagari's suffering.

If she killed him when he's still armed then its different, Daru maybe won't complained, like how she killed the armed two soldiers that hostaging him and Maho, he didn't bat an eye. Killing an unarmed person compare to armed person are two different things, I think that's how it is in Daru's head.
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Aug 15, 2018 5:30 PM

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I felt like I pretty much knew Leskinen was going to be a bad dude, but even though it seemed kind of predictable it still made sense
the end was also really sad, I teared up
this was also the first time in Zero where Okabe was about to go back in time again with no hesitation, Hououin Kyouma has almost made a comeback B)
 
Aug 15, 2018 5:33 PM

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Jeez this episode was such a load of nonsense >_>

1 girl killing X trained soldiers because apparently brainwashing gives you superpowers.
Gunshots stopping midfight cause characters need to talk.
Lack of emotional purposefulness in the direction - killing, dying, plot revelations all mixed up.
Not picking up a gun, so your adversary may pick it up later.
If you shoot X soldiers it's okay, killing professor is morally wrong though.
Exposition Daru holding some random iron bar so we know it's time machine part for sure, because it's hard to convey that visually apparently.
I don't even care about sloppy (lack of) animation but something was plain wrong with the direction, especially after really good two previous episodes.
To much of "I shoot you! - No, I shoot YOU!".
How did that heli entered Japan's air territory.
Do you need so much action to show the stakes? It just betrays the tonality of the series.
I laughed when it was supposed to be serious, because of the ridiculity.
SMS convenient timing when Mayuri is some lump of meat lying on the pavement. I surely feel the power of her resolve now xD

Goddamit, yes i needed 18eps of Okabe's motivation and Leskinen being totally-not-shady-at-all to finally get some time travel teased.
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Aug 15, 2018 5:38 PM
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Well ehhhhhhhhh I have no clue what to say about this episode. Apparently, they expanded upon Leskinen's evil monologue from the VN and opened up things I never even realized, which also conveniently drags on the episode for just the right juicy cliffhanger.

I don't necessarily like this scene more simply because they didn't have that dumb Yuki thing. They definitely try to push that Mayuri and Suzu survived the incident unlike the VN with it's Believe Me Zero crap.

 
Aug 15, 2018 5:40 PM

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Was I too naive for not expecting that Leskinen would turn out to be the villain ? It just didn't make sense to me, so I was never considering it.


And I wished they didn't go for that route, he's such a stupid and cliched villain... prefered him as quirky side character, but welp.

At least the scene with Mayushis message could convince me, that was really good.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

 
Aug 15, 2018 6:21 PM
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A bit different...or so a lot different then how the VN does it but they have to change up some aspects of the show to make it work. Overall I'm alright with how they are going about it, since it's still sticking to the main story. But they better not mess up the next few parts which are the best part of steins gate 0.
 
Aug 15, 2018 6:24 PM

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The action was pretty bad... but I can't complain because I don't really care about the action in this series.
An excellent episode, except the lack of certain monologue from the visual novel that sadly can't be put here in the anime because certain reasons. I'm curious about how they'll adapt what comes next, since in the visual novel this is what happens before the true ending.
*laughs in Dimple*
 
Aug 15, 2018 6:37 PM
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10/10 for this one..
What a episode i have just watched, too many revelations set in one episode, from the revelation of the professor, plus how he has able to met kagari, on how he did discover the said time machine and on how he has able to use the FUTURE BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUE...

The worst thing is that Okabe witness how Suzuha and mayuri died... its just a sad thing for him that he tried his best to save mayuri but in the end that time machine will still be the cause of her death...

Now this for sure will be the turning point of Okabe creating that time machine...

CANT WAIT FOR NEXT EPISODE...
 
Aug 15, 2018 6:38 PM

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I’ve absolutely no familiarity with the VN, but I knew that the professor was the ‘bad guy’ from the very beginning... You don’t have a character that over the top, and NOT have him turn out to know and be behind everything. So, that reveal was a little bit cheesy, to me.

BUT, everything else had me completely and utterly, stone cold gobsmacked. My jaw sat agape, eyebrows making a perpetual beeline for my hairline, head shaking, all throughout. HOLY SCHNIKES, man. This show really IS the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Aug 15, 2018 7:32 PM

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so... how accurate we are to the VN?
Bcs ofc no one will expect Suzuha and Mayuri to actually die when all they show is just a part of the time machine.
Hell, even the message at the end of the episode is even more convincing of an evidence. (even though, it's still not convincing enough.)
 
Aug 15, 2018 7:52 PM
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This episode was bad in so many levels, this show is downhill for a while but we might’ve hit the bottom by now.

Like everything was so rushed, everything was so obvious, lots of things made zero sense(specially about Kagari getting shot thousand times), suzuha not killing the professor because by the logic of the show it’s ok to kill secondary soldiers but the evil professors is not.

Everyone was always boosting about how the VN for this is so good, that I can only assume the adaption is crap at this point.

The show was really great in the first 8 episodes or so but somehow they couldn’t keep it up, and now i only miss how great the first steins gate was, it was too much hoping for 0 to be as great I guess
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Aug 15, 2018 7:55 PM
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I liked two things though: Mayuri letter and how the professor kind of teaches Okabe how to reach steins gate, but that’s a merit of the source material. The adaptation is a big pile of crap at this point.
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Aug 15, 2018 8:06 PM

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Revvie-chan said:
so... how accurate we are to the VN?

Its different but same in a sense. You cant really talk about accurancy as the vn structure doesnt really allow that in this format. Its like a mix of the best, while fixing some problems but also sacrificing subplots of the VN into an linear narrative. But it also adapts Arclight, which alone makes it better than the VN in a sense.
Its a more interesting adaption than original S;G.

Kokorowagurasu said:
Like everything was so rushed, everything was so obvious, lots of things made zero sense(specially about Kagari getting shot thousand times), suzuha not killing the professor because by the logic of the show it’s ok to kill secondary soldiers but the evil professors is not.

I mean you dont have to be a genius to know that killing an unarmed beaten scientist is unneeded at this point. Its a bit different to soldiers shooting at you unless your moral compass is lost in space. Otherwise Nakabachi would be dead for a long time in original S;G if you are concerned about bad guys surving.
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Aug 15, 2018 8:17 PM

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Well, this is our "hero" now, folks.

Our once brave Okabe is crying in a corner while Suzuha, Daru, Maho, and even motherfucking Mayuri try to save the world. That's right, the half-witted girl with stockholm syndrome has a bigger spine than our main character.

Okabe did absolutely nothing except watch all his friends get shot at and killed, then he's surprised how powerless he is.

1/5
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:27 PM

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TrueKireiPriest said:
Okabe did absolutely nothing except watch all his friends get shot at and killed, then he's surprised how powerless he is.

1/5

So kinda like original S;G till he got an "how to save the world" tutorial video by this powerless fool and got hit by said weak girl?
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:32 PM

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sanlei said:
TrueKireiPriest said:
Okabe did absolutely nothing except watch all his friends get shot at and killed, then he's surprised how powerless he is.

1/5

So kinda like original S;G till he got an "how to save the world" tutorial video by this powerless fool and got hit by said weak girl?

Are you talking about the series where he actually tried to save the world? Then no, this was nothing like that.
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:33 PM
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Ehhh... I liked first season of Steins;Gate, because it was a great psychological thriller. The second season was pretty much the same until they got on the freaking rooftop. Since then it became just action drama. And, in my opinion, not even a good one.
Kagari got shot a dozen of times and, for some reason, still was alive. Suzuha just chopped off a head of a soldier with bare hands and killed many others, but she can’t kill the professor, because “She’ll be the same as him”, if she does that. Just what kind of logic is that?
Also, why didn’t they just get into the time machine and flew away instead of talking to Okabe and waiting for the helicopter to shoot them?

Now, I’m not saying that the series got worthless at this point or anything like that. I hope it’ll get better with upcoming episodes, but this one - I disliked it
VERY MUCH.

Ooof, I feel much better now.
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:39 PM

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sanlei said:
Revvie-chan said:
so... how accurate we are to the VN?

Its different but same in a sense. You cant really talk about accurancy as the vn structure doesnt really allow that in this format. Its like a mix of the best, while fixing some problems but also sacrificing subplots of the VN into an linear narrative. But it also adapts Arclight, which alone makes it better than the VN in a sense.
Its a more interesting adaption than original S;G.

Most VN format doesn't allow a proper adaptation to anime.
Not an excuse.
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:44 PM

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Suzuha was able to dodge a shot at point blank range.
 
Aug 15, 2018 8:50 PM

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TrueKireiPriest said:
Are you talking about the series where he actually tried to save the world? Then no, this was nothing like that.

Yeah, i might misremember the bad endings of original S;G. Lets just not talk about those, especially not the Suzuha one.

I know you hate 0 Okabe despite him making everything for original S;G Okabe possible and giving him the privilege. But dunno why you bash the other characters now, it doesnt make original Okabe or rather original S;G look good.
 
Aug 15, 2018 9:43 PM

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sanlei said:
TrueKireiPriest said:
Are you talking about the series where he actually tried to save the world? Then no, this was nothing like that.

Yeah, i might misremember the bad endings of original S;G. Lets just not talk about those, especially not the Suzuha one.

I know you hate 0 Okabe despite him making everything for original S;G Okabe possible and giving him the privilege. But dunno why you bash the other characters now, it doesnt make original Okabe or rather original S;G look good.

First of all, Okabe has the entire universe and all of his friends telling him to stop being such a pussy and do something - that is what makes this Okabe infinitely worse than anything in the original visual novel. Yes he needed a slap and a lecture to get his senses back, but that cannot even compare to here; where the entire show is one giant lecture and slap in the face that his thick head continuously resists. He is not the same person. Simple as that.

As for why I bashed the supporting characters, just look at my signature and you will see why - they are part of the problem and only contribute to this angsty edgelord nonsense. I am not making the original look bad, this show is.
 
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Besides all the emotive things and revelations during the episode being exclusively WOW, I guess we found a clue, I didn't play the VN, but the destruction of the machine by that helicopter isn't what we found as a crashed sattelite on the first timeskip of the story?! (When Daru makes the use of the microwave on the first episode)
 
Aug 15, 2018 9:53 PM

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Oh wow all this negativity and here I am still excited af about the return of Hohouin Kyouma. The way things are going, I have big reasons to be excited. I'm pretty sure this will all pay off in the end. And in a big way at that
 
Aug 15, 2018 10:34 PM
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Is it just me or did Kagari literally decapitated a guy with one swipe of her hand??
 
Aug 15, 2018 10:44 PM
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I officially have no idea what's going on, but the show is engaging enough to keep me searching for explanations. It's hard to make sense of things like, "Where is SERN?" or "What sort of time loop did Kagari go through?" or "If Mayuri is dead, how was Kagari brought up?" I mean, the world line didn't change, did it? WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?
 
Aug 15, 2018 11:42 PM

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One weeks feels so long when I'm waiting for the next episode ;___;
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Aug 16, 2018 1:01 AM
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I hate how you fanboys praise shit like this. I love Steins;Gate but we must have standards and shit like this doesn't meet the standards, this was cheaply animated, poorly directed and was a clusterfuck. This is probably the 2 worst episode of Steins;Gate 0, this anime has been a total disappointment, the only redeeming quality was episode 8 which was excellent.

This episode was supposed to be emotional but I actually was cringing the 98% of the time, and don't get me started with Kagari slashing heads off with fucking bare hands!
 
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The saga of Stormtrooper aim continues...

Dodging automatic rifle fire from 10 guns at a distance of like 10 feet

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im honestly so confused and dead inside. i cant believe that mayushii went back to the past. how will she come back if the time machine only had enough fuel for a trip? im scared
 
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Great episode, even if the reveal of Leskinen as the bad guy was pretty damn obvious, and even if the wordline hasn't shifted despite the fact that it should've done for one of two reasons: either Mayuri is dead, bringing Kagari's future into question, or they went back in time and attempted to change things, which should have obviously changed worldlines.

Yet another frustrating cliffhanger though, to say the least.
 
Aug 16, 2018 2:56 AM
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I just knew he was a villain! Acted all goofy and innocent all this time, but it didn't fool me one bit! >:D
 
Aug 16, 2018 2:57 AM
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I hate how you fanboys praise shit like this. I love Steins;Gate but we must have standards and shit like this doesn't meet the standards, this was cheaply animated, poorly directed and was a clusterfuck. This is probably the 2 worst episode of Steins;Gate 0, this anime has been a total disappointment, the only redeeming quality was episode 8 which was excellent.

This episode was supposed to be emotional but I actually was cringing the 98% of the time, and don't get me started with Kagari slashing heads off with fucking bare hands!


This, this was not a good anime episode at all, not even talking about steins gate, but overall anime.
 
Aug 16, 2018 3:44 AM

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Lol, I didn't think Leskinen was the bad guy.
They probably managed to escape with the time machine.


Seriously?

It was obvious from the moment we met him he was going to be an antagonist.

This series is so much worse than the first one.
 
Aug 16, 2018 5:28 AM

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honestly,, idk how some vn readers have said the anime did it better. wrong. wrong. wrong.

i feel like this episode was just disappointing and it wasn't adapted as well as it could have been. the fight scene was so underwhelming and it was animated so badly. i'm actually sad because i feel like this episode could have had the potential to be one of the best eps of anime period. but it was didn't even come close to a fraction of how good it should have been.

yes, i am gonna be that person who is going to tell you to read the visual novel because, as it stands right now, steins;gate is missing no much of what makes it steins;gate. reeeee

i will however admit that they handled and actually discussed in depth how kagari could hear the voice of god and explained how leskinen did things (this wasn't really addressed in the vn so props to them) bUT MAyURIS MAIL COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER !!!!
this is ep has kinda put me off the adaption, i've spent so much time just thinking about how perfect it could have been. now im just ranting so i will stop. lmao o well
 
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Mayushi safe from rudal? I think okabe use time machine.
 
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TUTURU MOTHERFUCKER

God I just can't get invested with Kagari and her constant "Mama" bullshit. I wasn't even sad that she died. And those soldiers could do well as Stormtroopers with that kind of aim.

But apart from that, I love the episode. Looks like Mad Scientist is about to come back.
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xZabuzax said:
I hate how you fanboys praise shit like this. I love Steins;Gate but we must have standards and shit like this doesn't meet the standards, this was cheaply animated, poorly directed and was a clusterfuck. This is probably the 2 worst episode of Steins;Gate 0, this anime has been a total disappointment, the only redeeming quality was episode 8 which was excellent.

This episode was supposed to be emotional but I actually was cringing the 98% of the time, and don't get me started with Kagari slashing heads off with fucking bare hands!


i can t agree more
i stopped watching when she cut heads with karate. Is this steins gate?
i reached to the end of the episode so i didn t understand what was going on with the helicopters exploding everywhere
 
Aug 16, 2018 6:59 AM
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sanlei said:
Revvie-chan said:
so... how accurate we are to the VN?

Its different but same in a sense. You cant really talk about accurancy as the vn structure doesnt really allow that in this format. Its like a mix of the best, while fixing some problems but also sacrificing subplots of the VN into an linear narrative. But it also adapts Arclight, which alone makes it better than the VN in a sense.
Its a more interesting adaption than original S;G.

Kokorowagurasu said:
Like everything was so rushed, everything was so obvious, lots of things made zero sense(specially about Kagari getting shot thousand times), suzuha not killing the professor because by the logic of the show it’s ok to kill secondary soldiers but the evil professors is not.

I mean you dont have to be a genius to know that killing an unarmed beaten scientist is unneeded at this point. Its a bit different to soldiers shooting at you unless your moral compass is lost in space. Otherwise Nakabachi would be dead for a long time in original S;G if you are concerned about bad guys surving.


lol no. We’re talking about the guy who’s responsible for the death of many loved ones, admittedly trying to “destroy” the world, trying to shoot people minutes before, and so on. If I’m a timer traveler from a distopia you bet your ass I’m shooting that piece of shit. That was not a natural reaction at all, nor it goes along with Suzuha determination and personality shown before in sg zero.
 
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TUTURU MOTHERFUCKER

God I just can't get invested with Kagari and her constant "Mama" bullshit. I wasn't even sad that she died. And those soldiers could do well as Stortoopers with that kind of aim.

But apart from that, I love the episode. Looks like Mad Scientist is about to come back.


Yeah this episode was a bit of a mess choreography wise which left me a little bit underwhelmed. I haven't been able to bring myself to care about Kagari as a character either, I'm actually wondering if it's worth trying the VN to get a better understanding at this point. Overall I'm enjoying the series but issues like this do drag it down a little.
 
Aug 16, 2018 7:29 AM
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Did Mayuri and Suzuha really die?
I want to believe they somehow barely made it into the past but the fact that part of the time machine was found after the explosion makes me think they died. Then there’s the message from Mayuri at the end, pretty emotional alright.

Suzuha being stopped from killing Prof.Leskinen was dumb imo. Suzuha has killed before, she won’t hesitate to pull the trigger, she killed them soldiers in the previous episode so why stop her now.
I’m surprised Kagari could still talk after taking several bullets.

Well it’ll be a long wait to next week. I’m curious what Okabe will do now. Now he has a reasob to build a time machine.

 
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JSDF ought to get a subcontractor to police their skies or something. Clearly they were even less competent than the men in green that were slaughtered by Kagari. Future brainwashing is truly something.

Professor Leskinen was amusing as well. To think that such an intricate plan would come that close to fruition. A scientist even madder than the one we have come to miss so much.
 
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I am so angry and confused at how they handled that... I don't really want to spend what free time I have to rant on this but the way they wrote this was plain horrible and put more holes in the plot theta it already had. Was that there version of the bad ending we had to get like way long ago?

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oh wow ur spoiler really changes the way i watch this anime. I havent read sg0 vn, and tbh i am pretty dissapointed so far with this anime, as i felt b4 episode 18 the plot is too slow and all the plot twist could be easily predicted...

i felt that the producer probablyerase some plots from vn for meaningless melodramatic moments.

after the anime ends pls tell me all the plot twists erased in this anime... thx
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BulletKing said:
I am so angry and confused at how they handled that... I don't really want to spend what free time I have to rant on this but the way they wrote this was plain horrible and put more holes in the plot theta it already had. Was that there version of the bad ending we had to get like way long ago?

Major spoiler
oh wow ur spoiler really changes the way i watch this anime. I havent read sg0 vn, and tbh i am pretty dissapointed so far with this anime, as i felt b4 episode 18 the plot is too slow and all the plot twist could be easily predicted...

i felt that the producer probablyerase some plots from vn for meaningless melodramatic moments.

after the anime ends pls tell me all the plot twists erased in this anime... thx
 
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Seriously?

It was obvious from the moment we met him he was going to be an antagonist.

This series is so much worse than the first one.
lol, couldn't agree more.. if only this isn't the sequel of masterpiece series, i would probably have dropped it by now.. but i will give it a chance till the last episode, who knows if the ending would be so satisfying with mind blowing plot twists..


Oh, and i am so glad i could join MAL episode discussion once again after forum down break...
tbh i really dislike joining subreddit anime episode discussion, as they are full with bunch of fanboys, who could only praising the anime.. when here in MAL people could give more fair point of views :)
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BulletKing said:
lswarmruler said:
oh wow ur spoiler really changes the way i watch this anime. I havent read sg0 vn, and tbh i am pretty dissapointed so far with this anime, as i felt b4 episode 18 the plot is too slow and all the plot twist could be easily predicted...

i felt that the producer probablyerase some plots from vn for meaningless melodramatic moments.

after the anime ends pls tell me all the plot twists erased in this anime... thx
if only there is free version i would definitely play it.. thx for some of the spoilers,, is there any websites who give the summary of each available routes of sg0?
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tbh i really dislike joining subreddit anime episode discussion, as they are full with bunch of fanboys, who could only praising the anime.. when here in MAL people could give more fair point of views :)


For real, I got sick and tired to see all the upvotes going for people with "This was such an amazing rollercoster emotional episode!!! whoooo..." when this was actually a piece of garbage of an episode.

Reddit is full of fanboys that can't critically think for themselves on these type of shitty episodes.
 
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xZabuzax said:
lswarmruler said:


tbh i really dislike joining subreddit anime episode discussion, as they are full with bunch of fanboys, who could only praising the anime.. when here in MAL people could give more fair point of views :)


For real, I got sick and tired to see all the upvotes going for people with "This was such an amazing rollercoster emotional episode!!! whoooo..." when this was actually a piece of garbage of an episode.

Reddit is full of fanboys that can't critically think for themselves on these type of shitty episodes.
100% true.. and most of the top comments there are worthless one line reactions..

so, do u found any other good forum for anime discussion while MAL forum down?
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lswarmruler said:
xZabuzax said:


For real, I got sick and tired to see all the upvotes going for people with "This was such an amazing rollercoster emotional episode!!! whoooo..." when this was actually a piece of garbage of an episode.

Reddit is full of fanboys that can't critically think for themselves on these type of shitty episodes.
100% true.. and most of the top comments there are worthless one line reactions..

so, do u found any other good forum for anime discussion while MAL forum down?


Unfortunately not, when MAL was down I had no choice but to stick around in Reddit hoping that one day MAL forums goes online again. The waiting was painful, just as painful as watching this goddamn episode.
 
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Things are messed up now, I always suspected about professor, and he finaly shown up and confess everything!

And R.I.P Kagari , she got brutally killed!

I really dont know if Suzu and Mayuri survived or not! I hope thatthey are still alive in the past!

And now, what Okarin will do? He only have Maho and Hashida, he cant keep this timelime with so much losses, maybe its time for the retuning of mad scientist Hououin Kyouma, so maybe its timer for reach Steins Gate!

This show always let me really hyped! Cant wait for next week!
 
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