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May 8, 2018 1:39 AM
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Good day, forum readers. If you have seen my other postings, you may know that I am a Japanese who spent six years in Missouri, USA.
I was what people call a “Japanese-American” once, and I f**king hated being called that.

From my point of view, there are four types of so called Japanese-Americans living in the US now.

1. Descendants of Japanese immigrants.
2. Child of non-naturalized Japanese living in the US
3. Japanese immigrants.
4. Temporary residents

Let’s begin with the first one.
Regardless of your parents’ race or ethnicity, if you are born on American soil, you are an American. Even if both of your parents are Japanese by blood, if they have been naturalized as Americans, you will not be Japanese. So, if you fit into this category, you are an American and don’t ever call yourself a Japanese. If you think blood makes you Japanese, not just by nationality, but even your mind and soul are not Japanese. Because, valuing of blood connection over national loyalty is clearly a western nobility culture.
I repeat, you are not Japanese.

If your parent/s is/are not American but gave birth to you in the US, you are an American. And, if your parent/s informed the Japanese government of your birth within three months, you are also Japanese. Hurray for you. But, if they didn’t, you are only an American, so don’t call yourself a Japanese. If you are both, yet lived all your life in the states until you are cognitive enough to read this, you are not Japanese. I said above, blood does not make you Japanese. If you are both and also lived in both countries, pick a side. Japan only allows dual citizenship until 22.

If you are born Japanese, yet naturalized as an American, you are not Japanese. Must I say more? You forsook Japan for another country. I won’t call you a traitor, but do not associate yourself with us. A person of above category that choose American citizenship is also in this category, by the way.

The fourth category is the temporary residents. This includes, Japanese that are in the US for business or educational purpose, as well as a child of Japanese immigrant who remarried an American. You are Japanese. Stay strong, your return will come soon, and while you are there, be proud.

So, now that I listed the four types of “Japanese-American” that I think exist, the point I’m trying to make is ...about cultural appropriation.

If you fit into the above three categories, don’t claim that kimono and other Japanese clothing are yours. They’re not. And don’t you dare hinder the spread of Japanese culture in the US. Only ones that have any right to do so are right-wing patriotic American that believes jeans and t-shirts are superior.

If you are in the fourth category, try to put every non-Japanese in kimonos, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Do your best to spread our glorious culture. Don’t lose to the comfort and convenience of jeans and t-shirts.



Do you guys have different views? Do share your thoughts below.
May 8, 2018 1:53 AM
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i didn't read all of that OP, but i always thought of japanese-american, mexican-american, italian-american, etc as meaning an individual that is either born here or raised here with foreign parents, whom all still maintain their cultural customs and values from their past country.

i'm mexican-american, and don't particularly care about being called that.
the culture is still in tact, and i don't really give a shit about you saying i shouldn't do this or that.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 8, 2018 2:53 AM
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I would have defined a "Japanese-American" as someone who identifies with both Japan and America nationally, and has reasonable grounds to do so in both cases. So in most of those examples, I would say the person can choose whether to call themselves "Japanese", "American" or "Japanese-American". There are no hard and fast rules for national identity.
May 8, 2018 1:55 PM
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May 8, 2018 2:08 PM
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>I hate the term "Japanese-American"
would you prefer the term nihonjin-american instead?
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May 8, 2018 2:13 PM
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The only good use of ''Japanese-American'' is someone who has legal citizenship in both countries.

Any other use of this word is fucking retarded.

I don't call myself Swiss-Germanic-Italo-Franco-Romenian-Chinese-Danskere-Russian just because of my family tree.
yeah gotta respect my ''family culture''
EnriesMay 8, 2018 2:26 PM
May 10, 2018 12:48 PM
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"___-american" is dumb in general.
May 10, 2018 1:36 PM
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Hyphenated Nationalities only make Sense if you've grown up bi-cultural and feel that. Else, I disagree with the Notion that you cannot be of a certain Ethnicity if you don't live in the Country where it comes from.

Blood and Looks alone aren't important. What's important is how you've grown up, as what your Parents have raised you and as what you yourself feel. I can understand though why someone would question the ethnic Belonging to a People of someone when said Person clearly doesn't look like one of them and/or has a foreign Name.

I don't think that just being born and/or living for several Years makes you a Part of the People of a Country, even if you legally live and have Citizenship there. If you truly want to be a Part of the People, you have to assimilate and adopt your new Country's Culture as your own. This is easier with neighboring and similar Cultures/Countries than with Cultures/Countries that are based on completely different Values and were built by People from a different geographical Origin.
May 10, 2018 5:15 PM
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GrandSky001 said:
Good day, forum readers. If you have seen my other postings, you may know that I am a Japanese who spent six years in Missouri, USA.
I was what people call a “Japanese-American” once, and I f**king hated being called that.

From my point of view, there are four types of so called Japanese-Americans living in the US now.

1. Descendants of Japanese immigrants.
2. Child of non-naturalized Japanese living in the US
3. Japanese immigrants.
4. Temporary residents

Let’s begin with the first one.
Regardless of your parents’ race or ethnicity, if you are born on American soil, you are an American. Even if both of your parents are Japanese by blood, if they have been naturalized as Americans, you will not be Japanese. So, if you fit into this category, you are an American and don’t ever call yourself a Japanese. If you think blood makes you Japanese, not just by nationality, but even your mind and soul are not Japanese. Because, valuing of blood connection over national loyalty is clearly a western nobility culture.
I repeat, you are not Japanese.

If your parent/s is/are not American but gave birth to you in the US, you are an American. And, if your parent/s informed the Japanese government of your birth within three months, you are also Japanese. Hurray for you. But, if they didn’t, you are only an American, so don’t call yourself a Japanese. If you are both, yet lived all your life in the states until you are cognitive enough to read this, you are not Japanese. I said above, blood does not make you Japanese. If you are both and also lived in both countries, pick a side. Japan only allows dual citizenship until 22.

If you are born Japanese, yet naturalized as an American, you are not Japanese. Must I say more? You forsook Japan for another country. I won’t call you a traitor, but do not associate yourself with us. A person of above category that choose American citizenship is also in this category, by the way.

The fourth category is the temporary residents. This includes, Japanese that are in the US for business or educational purpose, as well as a child of Japanese immigrant who remarried an American. You are Japanese. Stay strong, your return will come soon, and while you are there, be proud.

So, now that I listed the four types of “Japanese-American” that I think exist, the point I’m trying to make is ...about cultural appropriation.

If you fit into the above three categories, don’t claim that kimono and other Japanese clothing are yours. They’re not. And don’t you dare hinder the spread of Japanese culture in the US. Only ones that have any right to do so are right-wing patriotic American that believes jeans and t-shirts are superior.

If you are in the fourth category, try to put every non-Japanese in kimonos, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Do your best to spread our glorious culture. Don’t lose to the comfort and convenience of jeans and t-shirts.



Do you guys have different views? Do share your thoughts below.



I agree.

Here is something from a former president from a hundred years ago.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all … The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic … There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

1915
Theodore Roosevelt



May 10, 2018 6:47 PM

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I would just call you Asian or Chinese. :)
May 10, 2018 7:26 PM
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I find it hilarious that everyone is just responding to the title and ignoring the low-grade trolling in the actual post. The OP went to all of the trouble to prepare this elaborate bait, but nobody noticed it.

Sorry, OP. Better luck next time.
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"If your parent/s is/are not American but gave birth to you in the US, you are an American. And, if your parent/s informed the Japanese government of your birth within three months, you are also Japanese. Hurray for you. But, if they didn’t, you are only an American, so don’t call yourself a Japanese. If you are both, yet lived all your life in the states until you are cognitive enough to read this, you are not Japanese. I said above, blood does not make you Japanese. If you are both and also lived in both countries, pick a side. Japan only allows dual citizenship until 22."

Pretty interesting actually. America does the opposite. if you are born in any country but at least one of your parents is/are American citizens, then you can be American also. that's how Ted Cruz was able to run for presidency despite being born in Canada
May 10, 2018 9:29 PM

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Being called japanese-american is no worse than being called german-american.
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May 10, 2018 11:24 PM

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i also the hate that term too, it boils my beans when people use words that are so assuming!

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May 10, 2018 11:38 PM

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Who exactly are you addressing this post too?
May 12, 2018 2:50 PM

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EGOIST said:
Who exactly are you addressing this post too?

anyone who uses it i guess. people segregate a lot in the US
May 12, 2018 2:55 PM

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Phendrus said:
I find it hilarious that everyone is just responding to the title and ignoring the low-grade trolling in the actual post. The OP went to all of the trouble to prepare this elaborate bait, but nobody noticed it.

Sorry, OP. Better luck next time.

i honestly hope he is trolling. the alternative is too frightening lol
May 12, 2018 2:57 PM

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2015 and onward has made me hate labels in general.
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May 13, 2018 11:24 AM

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Alright then change the term. I suggest Japcan.
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May 13, 2018 11:20 PM
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Call them what they are; Los Goblinos

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May 14, 2018 5:13 PM
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Well it is the right term, its a japanese person that is American.
May 15, 2018 4:04 AM

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GrandSky001 said:
Good day, forum readers. If you have seen my other postings, you may know that I am a Japanese who spent six years in Missouri, USA.
I was what people call a “Japanese-American” once, and I f**king hated being called that.

From my point of view, there are four types of so called Japanese-Americans living in the US now.

1. Descendants of Japanese immigrants.
2. Child of non-naturalized Japanese living in the US
3. Japanese immigrants.
4. Temporary residents

Let’s begin with the first one.
Regardless of your parents’ race or ethnicity, if you are born on American soil, you are an American. Even if both of your parents are Japanese by blood, if they have been naturalized as Americans, you will not be Japanese. So, if you fit into this category, you are an American and don’t ever call yourself a Japanese. If you think blood makes you Japanese, not just by nationality, but even your mind and soul are not Japanese. Because, valuing of blood connection over national loyalty is clearly a western nobility culture.
I repeat, you are not Japanese.

If your parent/s is/are not American but gave birth to you in the US, you are an American. And, if your parent/s informed the Japanese government of your birth within three months, you are also Japanese. Hurray for you. But, if they didn’t, you are only an American, so don’t call yourself a Japanese. If you are both, yet lived all your life in the states until you are cognitive enough to read this, you are not Japanese. I said above, blood does not make you Japanese. If you are both and also lived in both countries, pick a side. Japan only allows dual citizenship until 22.

If you are born Japanese, yet naturalized as an American, you are not Japanese. Must I say more? You forsook Japan for another country. I won’t call you a traitor, but do not associate yourself with us. A person of above category that choose American citizenship is also in this category, by the way.

The fourth category is the temporary residents. This includes, Japanese that are in the US for business or educational purpose, as well as a child of Japanese immigrant who remarried an American. You are Japanese. Stay strong, your return will come soon, and while you are there, be proud.

So, now that I listed the four types of “Japanese-American” that I think exist, the point I’m trying to make is ...about cultural appropriation.

If you fit into the above three categories, don’t claim that kimono and other Japanese clothing are yours. They’re not. And don’t you dare hinder the spread of Japanese culture in the US. Only ones that have any right to do so are right-wing patriotic American that believes jeans and t-shirts are superior.

If you are in the fourth category, try to put every non-Japanese in kimonos, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Do your best to spread our glorious culture. Don’t lose to the comfort and convenience of jeans and t-shirts.



Do you guys have different views? Do share your thoughts below.


All I know about Japanese-Americans is that there is like this Japanese-American community that likes Baseball and really really likes that sport, and just kinda generally associates some of Ameria with sports I think.

Like there was the ice sakter also.. so whenever I think of Japanse-Americans I think of people from Japan who live in America and often like sports, does that decrribe something?
May 23, 2018 1:20 PM
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Call them what they are; Los Goblinos

¡Dios mío! ¡La luz extinguido - El Goblino Americano! ¡Pon a los niños a salvo! ¡Invoca al cura del pueblo!
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Neane93 said:
ComfyRize said:
Call them what they are; Los Goblinos

¡Dios mío! ¡La luz extinguido - El Goblino Americano! ¡Pon a los niños a salvo! ¡Invoca al cura del pueblo!
I am 56% sure i've seen this image somewhere.
May 23, 2018 2:08 PM
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i'm going to start putting my ethnicity down as mayonnaise on all my documents now
May 24, 2018 5:34 AM

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Phendrus said:
I find it hilarious that everyone is just responding to the title and ignoring the low-grade trolling in the actual post. The OP went to all of the trouble to prepare this elaborate bait, but nobody noticed it.

Sorry, OP. Better luck next time.
seconded, I had a good laugh reading this. And people don't catch on for the hell of it. Never change, MAL.

This guy is either a masterclass troll or a delusional nationalist fighting his imaginary culture war.
Either way, I don't care. Into the museum it goes!

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