| I've started watching "Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de" some time ago, and kinda felt like the "amount of skin" shown and the level of ecchiness (sexual innuendo) was a bit too much for a PG-13 rating, while it does not contain any explicit "violence & profanity" (as the current definition of R -17+ says) to be rated higher. And of course, there are many more anime that are awkwardly placed inbetween PG-13 and R. some are too mature to be PG-13 but on the other hand the level of violence is nothing compared to other R-rated shows... (like level of violence in Shakugan no Shana vs. Code Geass) I know MAL's rating system isn't perfect, and isn't thoroughly reviewed like they do movies in MPAA and games in ESRB... but I think a clarification is needed in ratings' definition. Current definition is: G - All Ages PG - Children PG-13 - Teens 13 or older R - 17+ recommended (violence & profanity) R+ - Mild Nudity (may also contain violence & profanity) Rx - Hentai (extreme sexual content/nudity) I suggest to add another level of "R" with "sexual content" or just redefine "R- 17+ recommended (violence & profanity)" to "R - 17+ recommended (Violence, profanity OR sexual content)" and combine into one, or something like that. a more thorough system would be nice, but definitely SOME change needs to be made to the current system. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=2602 nice image~ PG-13! ... wait what? Oo just for another example |
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| Why not just use the Japanese ratings? |
| What does R+ - Mild Nudity actually mean? so "R - 17+ recommended (violence & profanity)" is a rating for anime that don't have partial nudity but violence, and "R+ - Mild Nudity" is the ones that have partial nudity? |
| Actually, looking at that list, PG is classified as childrens? That strikes me as odd. PG = parental guidance recommended. Show contains some themes potentially not suitable for younger viewers. I'm guessing it's based off the Americans rating system or something, and we all know how prudish Americans are. =p |
| Maybe we should really go with japanese ratings. Does anyone know where we can find how TV anime are being rated in Japan? |
| I can only find the "Japanese Movie Content Rating System", nothing on TV though. Japanese Movie Content Rating System: * G: General Audiences, all ages admitted. * PG-12: Some material may be inappropriate for children under the age of 12. Parental or adult accompaniment recommended. * R-15: No children under 15 admitted. The film contains adult themes, nudity, strong language, violence, and/or sex, etc. which is inappropriate for people under 15. * R-18: No children under 18 admitted. The film contains adult themes, detailed violence, explicit sex, sexual violence, pornographic content, hentai, and/or drug use, etc. which are unsuitable for people under 18. |
| same here, tried looking it up everywhere, but seems like I can't find any specific explanation on how TV series are rated... I think it has something to do with airing times though, like ones that air at midnight vs sunday morning shows. |
| Well, heres the U.S.'s TV Rating System: http://www.tvguidelines.org/ratings.asp From what I can find, the Japanese use an "Age Rating" for shows. Like "13 and up" or something like that. But I can't tell if this is true, or someone mixed up on how American anime companies label there DVD's. And I still can't find anything on "Japanese Broadcast Ratings". [EDIT] Yeah, thats just the sticker that Walmart and other stores put on their anime DVDs. |
ZinnKidMar 21, 2008 10:09 AM
ZinnKid said: I can only find the "Japanese Movie Content Rating System", nothing on TV though. Japanese Movie Content Rating System: * G: General Audiences, all ages admitted. * PG-12: Some material may be inappropriate for children under the age of 12. Parental or adult accompaniment recommended. * R-15: No children under 15 admitted. The film contains adult themes, nudity, strong language, violence, and/or sex, etc. which is inappropriate for people under 15. * R-18: No children under 18 admitted. The film contains adult themes, detailed violence, explicit sex, sexual violence, pornographic content, hentai, and/or drug use, etc. which are unsuitable for people under 18. Sounds pretty much like what the TV system is. Gotta remember that Japan is a far less prudish country than the US, though, and PG stuff will still have ecchiness and violence. Just nothing particularly graphic. That stuff tends to be 15+ in most western countries. |
| It's been a while since I posted this...but here's a good suggestion, there is a Korean site called "BestAnime" (http://bestanime.co.kr)that is pretty much a (really) large database for animation.. and they have their own rating system, which I think is pretty reasonable: The rating system they use: BA-7: Everyone BA-13: 13 years or older BA-17: 17 years or older BA-R: for adults BA-X: for adults - Hentai BA obviously stands for BestAnime, but of course, we could just take off the "BA" and make it "MAL-13" or something XD ..or just make it 7+ / 13+ / 17+ / R / X. Examples of some popular shows (included various controversial Ecchi related shows as well): TITLE || MAL rating || BA rating ======================================================= [Shows with rating difference is colored with red] Keroro Gunsou || PG || BA-7 Bakuten Shoot Beyblade || G || BA-7 Naruto Shippuuden || PG-13 || BA-13 Bleach || PG-13 || BA-13 Aria 1,2,3, OVA || G || BA-13 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu || PG-13 || BA-13 Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann || PG-13 || BA-13 Seto no Hanayome || PG-13 || BA-17 Eureka Seven || PG-13 || BA-17 Shakugan no Shana II || PG-13 || BA-17 Zero no Tsukaima || PG-13 || BA-17 Kimi ga aruji de shitsuji ga.. || R-17+ || BA-17 Kenko Zenrakei Suieibu Umisho || R+ || BA-17 Rosario + Vampire || R+ || BA-17 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's || PG-13 || BA-13 M.S. Lyrical Nanoha Strikers || PG-13 || BA-17 Canvas 2 ~Niji iro Sketch~ || PG-13 || BA-17 Kyou no Go no Ni || PG-13 || BA-17 Code Geass || R-17+ || BA-17 Code Geass R2 || R-17+ || BA-17 Kanokon || R+ || BA-R To-Love-Ru || R+ || BA-17 Kodomo no Jikan || R+ || BA-R Canvas ~Motif of Sepia~ || Rx || BA-R Moetan || R+ || BA-R Elfen Lied || R+ || BA-R Bible Black || Rx || BA-X =============================================== So most of them are rated similarly, but for some anime, MAL's rating was lower than BA's. Hentai.. is just straightforward obvious so get X for that.. But the confusing thing is that, (as I had asked before) whether the rating "R-17+" also applies to shows with enough Ecchiness, but obviously not Nudity. Say, like the difference between Ecchiness level between To-Love-Ru and Kanokon. . . . I know it's gonna be a tedious work to change the whole system around, but I'm just saying, we should have a clear standard for rating shows. Even if you say that it's scored from most popular opinion by the members, and you can submit your own score... (like I submitted the R+ rating for Kimiaru like 4 times and got rejected every time O_o) you know. :P ...So what do you think? |
zvucMay 16, 2008 2:57 AM
| I personally think that the current rating system is fine. |
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triangle2639 said: i think the current rating is already nice You bump a thread from more than 5 years ago to say that? |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| Does anyone even look at those in the first place? I don't think there's any need to change the current system. Besides R-17 and R+ are rather interchangeable, there's nothing wrong with it and this site has bigger problems (img code) to worry about before changing something that doesn't need to be fixed. |
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zvuc said: It's been a while since I posted this...but here's a good suggestion, there is a Korean site called "BestAnime" (http://bestanime.co.kr)that is pretty much a (really) large database for animation.. and they have their own rating system, which I think is pretty reasonable: The rating system they use: BA-7: Everyone MOETAN REALLY THATS TV-Y7 YOU IDIOT REALLY?! It's made for little girls BA-13: 13 years or older BA-17: 17 years or older BA-R: for adults BA-X: for adults - Hentai BA obviously stands for BestAnime, but of course, we could just take off the "BA" and make it "MAL-13" or something XD ..or just make it 7+ / 13+ / 17+ / R / X. Examples of some popular shows (included various controversial Ecchi related shows as well): TITLE || MAL rating || BA rating ======================================================= [Shows with rating difference is colored with red] Keroro Gunsou || PG || BA-7 Bakuten Shoot Beyblade || G || BA-7 Naruto Shippuuden || PG-13 || BA-13 Bleach || PG-13 || BA-13 Aria 1,2,3, OVA || G || BA-13 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu || PG-13 || BA-13 Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann || PG-13 || BA-13 Seto no Hanayome || PG-13 || BA-17 Eureka Seven || PG-13 || BA-17 Shakugan no Shana II || PG-13 || BA-17 Zero no Tsukaima || PG-13 || BA-17 Kimi ga aruji de shitsuji ga.. || R-17+ || BA-17 Kenko Zenrakei Suieibu Umisho || R+ || BA-17 Rosario + Vampire || R+ || BA-17 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's || PG-13 || BA-13 M.S. Lyrical Nanoha Strikers || PG-13 || BA-17 Canvas 2 ~Niji iro Sketch~ || PG-13 || BA-17 Kyou no Go no Ni || PG-13 || BA-17 Code Geass || R-17+ || BA-17 Code Geass R2 || R-17+ || BA-17 Kanokon || R+ || BA-R To-Love-Ru || R+ || BA-17 Kodomo no Jikan || R+ || BA-R Canvas ~Motif of Sepia~ || Rx || BA-R Moetan || R+ || BA-R Elfen Lied || R+ || BA-R Bible Black || Rx || BA-X =============================================== So most of them are rated similarly, but for some anime, MAL's rating was lower than BA's. Hentai.. is just straightforward obvious so get X for that.. But the confusing thing is that, (as I had asked before) whether the rating "R-17+" also applies to shows with enough Ecchiness, but obviously not Nudity. Say, like the difference between Ecchiness level between To-Love-Ru and Kanokon. . . . I know it's gonna be a tedious work to change the whole system around, but I'm just saying, we should have a clear standard for rating shows. Even if you say that it's scored from most popular opinion by the members, and you can submit your own score... (like I submitted the R+ rating for Kimiaru like 4 times and got rejected every time O_o) you know. :P ...So what do you think? |
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Bakuformer00 said: zvuc said: It's been a while since I posted this...but here's a good suggestion, there is a Korean site called "BestAnime" (http://bestanime.co.kr)that is pretty much a (really) large database for animation.. and they have their own rating system, which I think is pretty reasonable: The rating system they use: BA-7: Everyone MOETAN REALLY THATS TV-Y7 YOU IDIOT REALLY?! It's made for little girls BA-13: 13 years or older BA-17: 17 years or older BA-R: for adults BA-X: for adults - Hentai BA obviously stands for BestAnime, but of course, we could just take off the "BA" and make it "MAL-13" or something XD ..or just make it 7+ / 13+ / 17+ / R / X. Examples of some popular shows (included various controversial Ecchi related shows as well): TITLE || MAL rating || BA rating ======================================================= [Shows with rating difference is colored with red] Keroro Gunsou || PG || BA-7 Bakuten Shoot Beyblade || G || BA-7 Naruto Shippuuden || PG-13 || BA-13 Bleach || PG-13 || BA-13 Aria 1,2,3, OVA || G || BA-13 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu || PG-13 || BA-13 Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann || PG-13 || BA-13 Seto no Hanayome || PG-13 || BA-17 Eureka Seven || PG-13 || BA-17 Shakugan no Shana II || PG-13 || BA-17 Zero no Tsukaima || PG-13 || BA-17 Kimi ga aruji de shitsuji ga.. || R-17+ || BA-17 Kenko Zenrakei Suieibu Umisho || R+ || BA-17 Rosario + Vampire || R+ || BA-17 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's || PG-13 || BA-13 M.S. Lyrical Nanoha Strikers || PG-13 || BA-17 Canvas 2 ~Niji iro Sketch~ || PG-13 || BA-17 Kyou no Go no Ni || PG-13 || BA-17 Code Geass || R-17+ || BA-17 Code Geass R2 || R-17+ || BA-17 Kanokon || R+ || BA-R To-Love-Ru || R+ || BA-17 Kodomo no Jikan || R+ || BA-R Canvas ~Motif of Sepia~ || Rx || BA-R Moetan || R+ || BA-R Elfen Lied || R+ || BA-R Bible Black || Rx || BA-X =============================================== So most of them are rated similarly, but for some anime, MAL's rating was lower than BA's. Hentai.. is just straightforward obvious so get X for that.. But the confusing thing is that, (as I had asked before) whether the rating "R-17+" also applies to shows with enough Ecchiness, but obviously not Nudity. Say, like the difference between Ecchiness level between To-Love-Ru and Kanokon. . . . I know it's gonna be a tedious work to change the whole system around, but I'm just saying, we should have a clear standard for rating shows. Even if you say that it's scored from most popular opinion by the members, and you can submit your own score... (like I submitted the R+ rating for Kimiaru like 4 times and got rejected every time O_o) you know. :P ...So what do you think? zvuc said: I've started watching "Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de" some time ago, and kinda felt like the "amount of skin" shown and the level of ecchiness (sexual innuendo) was a bit too much for a PG-13 rating, while it does not contain any explicit "violence & profanity" (as the current definition of R -17+ says) to be rated higher. And of course, there are many more anime that are awkwardly placed inbetween PG-13 and R. some are too mature to be PG-13 but on the other hand the level of violence is nothing compared to other R-rated shows... (like level of violence in Shakugan no Shana vs. Code Geass) I know MAL's rating system isn't perfect, and isn't thoroughly reviewed like they do movies in MPAA and games in ESRB... but I think a clarification is needed in ratings' definition. Current definition is: G - All Ages PG - Children PG-13 - Teens 13 or older R - 17+ recommended (violence & profanity) R+ - Mild Nudity (may also contain violence & profanity) Rx - Hentai (extreme sexual content/nudity) I suggest to add another level of "R" with "sexual content" or just redefine "R- 17+ recommended (violence & profanity)" to "R - 17+ recommended (Violence, profanity OR sexual content)" and combine into one, or something like that. a more thorough system would be nice, but definitely SOME change needs to be made to the current system. Hanamaru kindergarten:g Bakugan:tv-14 Wakakusa monogatari:tv-ma |
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| To be honest, I don't go by MAL's age rating, because I've seen Anime that MAL has rated "R-17" that should only be rated "PG-13," and vice versa. I typically go to other review sites to get a more balanced age rating. |
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| I like that MAL differentiates between shows with nudity and shows without, but in a general sense the ratings don't tell you what to expect. I'll just take Sora no Otoshimono as an example. It's ecchi, but it's rated PG-13 and looks like something that could actually have a solid plot. One would only expect minor ecchiness for such a low rating, yet the amount of sexual innuendo and general sexual content is disgustingly high. There's no way that's safe for a 13 year old. ~.~ On the other end of the spectrum (still focusing on sexual content) you have Monster, which is rated R+. Nudity would normally be a no-sell for someone like myself, yet there's only two very brief scenes where a poster flashes by with the content in question (it's so throw-away that I'm not even sure why they felt the need to include it). There is no other sexuality in the show that I've seen so far and I'm over half way through it. What I'm getting at is MAL's rating focuses so heavily on the type of content that it neglects the amount of said content, which can be of equal importance when deciding whether to watch a show. This applies to violence and profanity just as much as sexuality. While I wouldn't want to see the system blur the lines with regards to content type, I would like to see more differentiation in the amount of content. I'm not sure how to do that without more ratings or multiple rating scales, however. |
XtratoS said: My suggestion is to make seperate ratings for each anime for violence & nudity content, each anime would have 2 ratings, a rating for the nudity content and another rating for violence, gore ...etc Another solution is to add more ratings like a rating for animes which contain violence without containing nudity, a rating for animes which contain nudity without gore, and a rating for anime which contains both, several levels of everything ofc That'd be very helpful |
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Mochizuki-uchiha said: Hate to start this back up, but I have to admit the way this site rates anime bothers me a bit. just R for Hellsing ultimate despite there being rape and necrophilia along with the Gore. alukard was raped as a child by a priest, a man raped Seras dead mom right in front of her, while The Sacred Black Smith Got an R+ rating with Gore and nudity. Am I the only one who things that if Sacred Blacksmith is R+ Hellsing ultimate should also be R+? Just an opinion and the topic doesn't bother me in a Can't stand it way, but more of a "What?" Way, meaning questioning it whenever I go through my list. You can submit a change to the rating in this thread: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866 |
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ZinnKid said: I can only find the "Japanese Movie Content Rating System", nothing on TV though. Japanese Movie Content Rating System: * G: General Audiences, all ages admitted. * PG-12: Some material may be inappropriate for children under the age of 12. Parental or adult accompaniment recommended. * R-15: No children under 15 admitted. The film contains adult themes, nudity, strong language, violence, and/or sex, etc. which is inappropriate for people under 15. * R-18: No children under 18 admitted. The film contains adult themes, detailed violence, explicit sex, sexual violence, pornographic content, hentai, and/or drug use, etc. which are unsuitable for people under 18. The Rating System should be changed to the japanese version. would make sense to because if somebody has the japanese DVD you could check the correct rating. zvuc said: same here, tried looking it up everywhere, but seems like I can't find any specific explanation on how TV series are rated... I think it has something to do with airing times though, like ones that air at midnight vs sunday morning shows. Japan has no TV ratings they get rated only if they get a DVD release. edit: it should be even possible to do it very easy because they only have to change every rating to the new: G and PG to G, PG-13 to PG-12, R to R-15, R+ and Rx to R-18 R and R+ are too similar here. i think that R+ is detailed blood/violence so it falls under the japanese R-18 rating |
AkitoTheGamblerJun 11, 2016 11:32 AM
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| To be honest I've seen shows that I think are rated too high. Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood is rated R-17 while other sites like IMDB ad Netflix rate it as TV-14, I think it should be PG-13 instead of getting bumped up to R-17. If PG-15 was a thing I wouldn't mind it being rated that but I don't really think PG-15 is needed. Here in America we have G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17 and for TV it's G, Y-7, PG, PG-14, TV-MA though I frequently see both being used on TV (I guess because a lot of movies air on TV). Interestingly back before we had the PG-13 rating there was nothing between PG and R so a bunch of movies that would have been PG-13 ended up as PG. |
MattKitsune96Jun 12, 2016 10:26 PM
| The ratings are so-so, I say. Actually, my biggest problem with it is when some really primitive childish shows rated as G. No, it's not how it working, there is a difference between family anime (that's for everyone, G) and kids stuff (there is already a rating for it, K). It's also coincides with tags problem, when painfully obviously kiddy shows still gets "Shounen" tag only because original manga has been initially published is some shounen magazine. No, shounen = boy, teenager (about 7-15). For kids it's "Kodomo". It's Japan, for Christ sake, they can't go without labeling everything, and it's a really nice practice, makes choosing your entertainment bloody easy. But it looks like that current rating logic is based on licensed stuff. That's 0K, but it's obviously incomplete system since licensed stuff is only a very small fraction of what we have in DB. |
 There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.  Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| Actually, the rating system is off and not only on MAL =V On the internet is hard to rate things for the appropriate age as there's interaction between different values: to give an idea, in Italy until a couple of decades ago -or even just a few years ago- profanity, dick jokes, sexual innuendos and nudity were a common element in the cinepanettoni (comedies released on Christmas) and on TV they'd get the prime time slot and a PG rating at most. In America, those would have most likely been PG-14 at least =V More than a rating by age, I think that simply putting the appropriate tags would be faster for those who wants to filter them or even for those explicitly looking for them. I want to avoid/find shows with a lot of Gore? With mild violence? With aliens? Problem solved. Filter/search for the tag. =V |
| If based on MPAA pretty much all anime is rated R, borderline NC-17 |
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| This rating system is really bad, if they show nipples and nothing else it should not be automatically R (17+). Do you know how many shounen series show nipples? lmao. R should be only for gore and actual sexual content. |
| I don't even think most of them are official ratings set by the publisher or some rating authority. There must be a lot where just random MAL users put in what they felt like would be okay. Which means: They mean absolutely nothing! I mean even for demographics (shoujo, shounen, ...) the rule afaik says the tags should only be used if the source had been serialized in a magazine targeded at some target audience with that demographics. Why do - where it is more important - the wrong thing here? I honestly do not understand it. For people outside the US those ratings are not important. (We have our own systems.) And I do not know about the laws in the US. But imagine there was some law that forbids to show something to people below a certain age ... if someone uses MAL (well they probably should not :D) for infos ... and got some wrong info ... they might get in trouble. |
Madrisk said: Go to any anime entry and click the Edit link in the top right.cyruz said: how do u do that :/Instead of being O_o;; , just submit a rating you think fits the show best and help us out a little. |
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