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Jul 4, 2017 8:15 AM
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Recently I've been seeing people complain about characters of a show are stereotypes,cliched,boring etc.And I saw them almost everywhere
So I want to ask you all,do you think the anime characters now are all really boring or they are just asking for too much.
If they are all stereotypes,do you think that we can do something to change the situation?
Or do you think that we can't possibly develop anymore new,unique anime characters?
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We're now at the natural habitat of some of the garbage human beings in the world.
And here,you see one of them is trying to say something intellectual and funny
But he failed.I guess he's too lame to do so.

Jul 4, 2017 8:29 AM
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There is nothing necessarily wrong with a character following a stereotype or fitting into a common archetype, but what is important is that they do something beyond that. The problem with a lot of anime characters is that instead of using these as a structure to build off of, a lot of shows just use characters that are copies of ones that worked. If a character can be fully described using just one word, that is not a character than will be interesting to watch throughout an entire show.
Jul 4, 2017 9:43 AM
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No, watch Symphogear for original awesome characters! They may seem stereotypes at first glance but that's just surface level. They are really deep the more you drill!
Jul 4, 2017 9:48 AM
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YES, we already established this back on June 12th 2011 at the Anime Stereotype Conference in Budapest, learn your anime history, geez.
Jul 4, 2017 9:52 AM
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not this one ;)

actually gintama has some pretty weird characters that aren't really stereotypical.

Jul 4, 2017 9:56 AM
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All fictional characters are stereotypes in some form of another. That's not a bad thing, it's just how fiction works - by boiling things down to a point where they can be consumed by the audience.

As for whether anime characters are boring now, it obviously depends on what you're watching. Anime is just as good now as it has ever been, but you wouldn't know this if the only shows you were watching were shitty light novel adaptions.

As for good ways to change the situation, if you honestly think characters today are poorly written? Don't spend money on shows with shitty characters. Do spend money on shows with good characters. Vote with your wallet, and all that.
Jul 4, 2017 9:57 AM
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Shoegum said:
YES, we already established this back on June 12th 2011 at the Anime Stereotype Conference in Budapest, learn your anime history, geez.


Yeah right,my bad.I can definitely learn a lot from a conference 6 years ago.
But seriously dude,tell me more about that conference
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We're now at the natural habitat of some of the garbage human beings in the world.
And here,you see one of them is trying to say something intellectual and funny
But he failed.I guess he's too lame to do so.

Jul 4, 2017 10:03 AM
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OklahomanSailor said:
Shoegum said:
YES, we already established this back on June 12th 2011 at the Anime Stereotype Conference in Budapest, learn your anime history, geez.


Yeah right,my bad.I can definitely learn a lot from a conference 6 years ago.
But seriously dude,tell me more about that conference


The gist of it was that we decided on the definition of a stereotype as the same as cliché in the anime context; a character with traits that fit a relatively commonly used template or formula already established in the anime industry. We also then decided due to the vast numbers of characters already produced by the industry and the constant recycling of ideas and lack of new original input, that nearly all (98%) of anime characters fit some basic stereotype or cliche. We also outlined 52 types of anime stereotypes ranging from tsundere to deadpan loli to gay extrovert, with acknowledgement that more existed.
Jul 4, 2017 10:08 AM
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Shoegum said:
OklahomanSailor said:


Yeah right,my bad.I can definitely learn a lot from a conference 6 years ago.
But seriously dude,tell me more about that conference


The gist of it was that we decided on the definition of a stereotype as the same as cliché in the anime context; a character with traits that fit a relatively commonly used template or formula already established in the anime industry. We also then decided due to the vast numbers of characters already produced by the industry and the constant recycling of ideas and lack of new original input, that nearly all (98%) of anime characters fit some basic stereotype or cliche. We also outlined 52 types of anime stereotypes ranging from tsundere to deadpan loli to gay extrovert, with acknowledgement that more existed.


Woah,that's actually pretty impressive
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We're now at the natural habitat of some of the garbage human beings in the world.
And here,you see one of them is trying to say something intellectual and funny
But he failed.I guess he's too lame to do so.

Jul 4, 2017 10:10 AM

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I don't care if a character is a stereotype, as long as they're not one-dimensional.
Jul 4, 2017 10:15 AM

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There is no winning in this argument.Set of people will complain about characters being stereotypical or cliched.But If the characters are too unique.People will find ways to complain about that too!!

To answer that cliched and stereotypical are not always bad!!
Jul 4, 2017 10:31 AM
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OklahomanSailor said:
Shoegum said:


The gist of it was that we decided on the definition of a stereotype as the same as cliché in the anime context; a character with traits that fit a relatively commonly used template or formula already established in the anime industry. We also then decided due to the vast numbers of characters already produced by the industry and the constant recycling of ideas and lack of new original input, that nearly all (98%) of anime characters fit some basic stereotype or cliche. We also outlined 52 types of anime stereotypes ranging from tsundere to deadpan loli to gay extrovert, with acknowledgement that more existed.


Woah,that's actually pretty impressive


To be honest the conference was quite preemptive, considering the anime slump had only begun in 2008. Some critics of the conference say that while it allowed academics to converse more freely about stereotypes, it also damaged the industry through heavier critique, eventually leading to even more cheap light novel adaptations with cut-out characters. It is sometimes quoted as more of a self-fulfilling prophecy rather than accurate foresight into the future of the industry.
Jul 4, 2017 10:38 AM

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ya'all're moreofa stereotype than a high school magical battle anime cast
Jul 4, 2017 10:38 AM

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i think you will enjoy this post modern character

https://myanimelist.net/character/143715/Onara_Gorou?q=onara%20gorou


now we can safely say that at most (all characters - 1) are stereotypical, therefore not all characters are stereotypical
syllogism solved!
Jul 4, 2017 4:55 PM

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Not much, but most of them are. With new anime rolling in every season, i think the non-stereotype traits of several characters will become stereotypes in some years or so.
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Jul 4, 2017 5:11 PM
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Every single character ever created in the whole human history fulfills the one or another stereotype.
Jul 4, 2017 5:46 PM

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are there really any characters that are not stereotipes in any fiction
as they usually represent oversimplifications of actual people it is not like you can not split all fictional characters into easily idenfiable stereotipes, heck someone must have done that already
and i see absolutely no issue with that
Jul 4, 2017 5:52 PM

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Not all anime are stereotypes, but a lot of them are. Most characters will follow some sort of archetype. What seperates a good character and a bad character for me is whether or not the I find that the archetype is all that defines the character, or if the character can go beyond just being an archetype.
Jul 4, 2017 6:18 PM

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I think the correct word in this case is Archetype, not stereotype.
Archetypes in some base form represent the main traits a societies people have within them to varying degrees. Characters are built from only 1 of them them because their it makes them easier to relate to, at least initially. Its okay to bring them in as one trait characters, but the idea is to build on them from there, or use them in a thematically cool way.

The Japanese have their archetypes such as

The dumb, brash one who eats a lot (all shonen protagonists)
the tsundere
the bubbly one
the quiet, shy, blushy one
the perv.... etc


The west has their own, which are very well represented by the ninja turtles.
The angry one
the smart one
the comic relief
and the leader (calm, and motivational)
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Jul 4, 2017 6:32 PM

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If you try hard enough, you can fit nearly any character into a predetermined label. This, however, requires looking far back enough in order to generalize a given character to their most basic elements, of which ignores development, backstory, aesthetic design, voice acting, the network of in-universe connections the given character has of which may have created unique circumstances for even the most cardboard of cutouts to prosper from, and any number of other nuances that have been done to mitigate the idea that a character is just like any other.

Uniqueness is something I have gotten wary of in recent times, where yes, through harsh generalizations, it's possible to say the quantity of perceived newness has waned as time has gone on. However, in that act of trying to create new things, I've seen the use of quirkiness, subversions, self-awareness, parodies and extravagant wackiness attempt to break out of molds. I'd much prefer seeing the so-called stereotypes used effectively rather than the kind of uniqueness that attempts to overcompensate the fear of monotony by focusing too much on trying to be new, flashy, or hyper-stylized. Call it a preference of mastery over familiar formulas over treading new grounds if you must.
Jul 5, 2017 1:06 AM

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Most human beings are stereotypes, everyone follow certain patterns of personality, conciously and unconciously.

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Jul 5, 2017 1:47 AM

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Have you watched Digimon Tamers, Paranoia Agent, Tatami Galaxy?

Don't watch shitty anime and complain there is no good anime.
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Jul 5, 2017 2:41 AM

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> Are anime characters all stereotypes?

Anime characters aren't stereotypes. But viewers tend to stereotype them.
Just like with real people.
Jul 5, 2017 2:48 AM

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To a limited degree, yes. In fact you can fit anything to certain stereotypes if you try hard enough.

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