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Jun 21, 2017 12:31 PM
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Despite me not being a very shameful person that doesn't have problem with liking trashy incest shows full of loli fanservice and thus often questioning my life decisions, this one is far too much even for me to handle.

Oreimo had everything above but also had more to say and if you ignore shitty ending it was a very enjoyable show with decent characters and development in which they put all the trashy elements for us to enjoy. Eromanga is only that trash and nothing else.

Characters are blant with no development just for sake of being there, story is missing, whole "12 year olds writing novels" thing feels retarded, MC is freaking Ki-ri-to and yes, our imouto had a major upgrade with result of most cute and urealistic girl ever - shut-in loli imouto that draws eroge and loves onii-chan [did I mentioned that THEY ARE NOT BLOOD RELATED, for some reason show likes to remind you this] - yeah, they are pussies for not going full incest even this time;
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Jun 21, 2017 1:04 PM
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Yep well, you could easily notice that just a few mins into the first episode.
Jun 22, 2017 2:16 PM
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I think its better

First of all the incest here is different because sagiri is soft while kirino is abusive and the love interest here is being made very clear. Also plotwise this anime has a plot and makes us invested in seeing them succeed in doing their goal (to get an anime adaption)

The only problem is not being blood related (which we can ignore and pretend they are) And her age, how can he expect us to fap to this shit not everyone here is a pedo
Jun 22, 2017 4:31 PM
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Nah, Oreimo is much trashier.

Because Kirino.
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Jun 22, 2017 4:39 PM
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Jun 22, 2017 6:30 PM
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Love incest? Oreimo better.
Hate incest? Eromanga-sensei better.

spoiler for oreimo:

everyone in eromanga-sensei seem light-headed though i'll admit, on the other hand the plot is much better in my opinion. In oreimo it just seems like it's blatantly more focused only on "love" which makes it super boring at least for me throughout the series since there's no actual interesting main goal for the mc.
Jun 22, 2017 7:43 PM
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Before saying anything else, I want to make clear that I really really like Eromanga Sensei. Just look at my avatar damnit. Anyway, I too think Oreimo is the superior show here. With ems, I'm just watching because it's cute, somewhat funny and well... Lewd scenes. I have 0 issues with the amount of unnecessary shots they have put into the show. In fact, I like them ..cause I'm a baka hentai.

So why is Oreimo better? Because it all felt more serious. The story was way better, it felt realistic unlike this one which is just silly. The way Kirino acted felt realistic for a girl who feels bad and embarrassed for liking her brother. It makes sense for someone to go all tsundere in this situation, at least to me. I don't see why people dislike her so much. Their relationship was interesting to watch, it was heartwarming to see. I laughed, I cried, I felt happy, I got angry, I was worried. The whole thing felt more like an actual drama with a story and characters I could be invested in rather your standard ecchi dice rollin show. Its focus was on the relationship between the siblings rather than in eromanga where the focus is on novel writing and showing the audience how cute the girls are (which they do a really good job of hehe).

So yeah I agree with this:
teagon said:
Oreimo had more to say with decent characters and development in which they put all the trashy elements for us to enjoy.

Eromanga Sensei: Story is missing, whole "12 year olds writing novels" thing feels retarded, yeah, they are pussies for not going full incest even this time


I guess I'm a bit biased though cause Kirino reminded me of my own sis.... lol don't take that the wrong way.

Also, background music of oreimo was soooo good. Every time I heard this song I cried like a lil baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_M5lOq-REc

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spoiler for oreimo:

That's not true. In the PSP visual novel games they mention this cause they HAD to. But the visual novel is not canon. In Volume 12 of the light novel they even say

JokucJun 22, 2017 8:27 PM
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Jun 22, 2017 7:50 PM
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I mean either you like it or you don't like it. That's just it.

Personally I like Eromanga-sensei more than OreImo but that's for few reasons, some for different things taking the comparison out:

- The main female character is more likable compared to Kirino (from OreImo)
- The comedy feels better executed compared to OreImo (I don't remember much but I did remembered that while I did laughed at some points, I didn't laughed as much compared with the Eromanga, where as in Eromanga I laughed so many times even if I shouldn't laugh at certain scenes that are rather wrong in a sense).

Outside of it I say it has more production value and life compared to OreImo but then again that is also about time gaps tbh.
Jun 22, 2017 8:29 PM
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Jokuc said:
Before saying anything else, I want to make clear that I really really like Eromanga Sensei. Just look at my avatar damnit. Anyway, I too think Oreimo is the superior show here. With ems, I'm just watching because it's cute, somewhat funny and well... Lewd scenes. I have 0 issues with the amount of unnecessary shots they have put into the show. In fact, I like them ..cause I'm a baka hentai.

So why is Oreimo better? Because it all felt more serious. The story was way better, it felt realistic unlike this one which is just silly. The way Kirino acted felt realistic for a girl who feels bad and embarrassed for liking her brother. It makes sense for someone to go all tsundere in this situation, at least to me. I don't see why people dislike her so much. Their relationship was interesting to watch, it was heartwarming to see. I laughed, I cried, I felt happy, I got angry, I was worried. The whole thing felt more like an actual drama with a story and characters I could be invested in rather your standard ecchi dice rollin show. Its focus was on the relationship between the siblings rather than in eromanga where the focus is on novel writing and showing the audience how cute the girls are (which they do a really good job of hehe).

So yeah I agree with this:
teagon said:
Oreimo had more to say with decent characters and development in which they put all the trashy elements for us to enjoy.

Eromanga Sensei: Story is missing, whole "12 year olds writing novels" thing feels retarded, yeah, they are pussies for not going full incest even this time


I guess I'm a bit biased though cause Kirino reminded me of my own sis.... lol don't take that the wrong way.

Also, background music of oreimo was soooo good. Every time I heard this song I cried like a lil baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_M5lOq-REc

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CaptainJumBo said:
spoiler for oreimo:

That's not true. In the PSP visual novel games they mention this cause publishers HAD to do it. But the visual novel is not canon. In Volume 12 of the light novel they even say


Well your not wrong on anything, but here is how I see it. Eromanga Sensei is always called Oreimo 2.0, but is it really? I dont think entirely. They are just both little sister harem romance. Now if you think about it from the authors perspective, I can see why he would want to change from a somewhat serious drama focused show to more silly, loose, unchained, and crazy style show. It makes sense to not do a serious drama about little sisters twice over. Its much wackier and loony then Oreimo by such a large extent. In a lot of ways its the perfect compliment. If Oreimo was a meal Eromanga Sensei would be the dessert.
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Well your not wrong on anything, but here is how I see it. Eromanga Sensei is always called Oreimo 2.0, but is it really? I dont think entirely. They are just both little sister harem romance. Now if you think about it from the authors perspective, I can see why he would want to change from a somewhat serious drama focused show to more silly, loose, unchained, and crazy style show. It makes sense to not do a serious drama about little sisters twice over. Its much wackier and loony then Oreimo by such a large extent. In a lot of ways its the perfect compliment. If Oreimo was a meal Eromanga Sensei would be the dessert.


The whole idea behind the shows are very similar, that's why I call it Oreimo 2.0. Sister falls in love with her older brother, she's an otaku obsessed with perverted stuff. They meet new girls who all start to like the MC and lil sis has to fight for her survival, rawr. And it's by the same author. And it's in the same universe. And both Sagiri and Kirino like Stardust Witch Meruru...

But in terms of how the story is told, no the shows are not that similar. I'm glad they didn't do a serious approach this time as the story for eromanga sensei is... eh. Silly. It would feel weird to see them trying hard to make it a realistic sibling romance scenario when there are lil kids doing porn and being pro authors... And girls saying "I love dicks" to someone they just met.
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Jokuc said:
Reikuo said:
Well your not wrong on anything, but here is how I see it. Eromanga Sensei is always called Oreimo 2.0, but is it really? I dont think entirely. They are just both little sister harem romance. Now if you think about it from the authors perspective, I can see why he would want to change from a somewhat serious drama focused show to more silly, loose, unchained, and crazy style show. It makes sense to not do a serious drama about little sisters twice over. Its much wackier and loony then Oreimo by such a large extent. In a lot of ways its the perfect compliment. If Oreimo was a meal Eromanga Sensei would be the dessert.


The whole idea behind the shows are very similar, that's why I call it Oreimo 2.0. Sister falls in love with her older brother, she's an otaku obsessed with perverted stuff. They meet new girls who all start to like the MC and lil sis has to fight for her survival, rawr. And it's by the same author. And it's in the same universe. And both Sagiri and Kirino like Stardust Witch Meruru...

But in terms of how the story is told, no the shows are not that similar. I'm glad they didn't do a serious approach this time as the story for eromanga sensei is... eh. Silly. It would feel weird to see them trying hard to make it a realistic sibling romance scenario when there are lil kids doing porn and being pro authors... And girls saying "I love dicks" to someone they just met.

Yea the dick moment from Megumi was probably my least favorite bit the show did. When Eromanga Sensei had about 5 episodes out I kinda figured it would never catch up to Oreimos level of quality, and it has not yet... However I think it has shown these past few episodes that it can be really good.

If we get a season 2 that keeps up with the pace that episode 8 started and that peaked in episode 11, with a good enough ending we may just see some minds start changing. Eromanga Sensei had a bit of an awkward start but its found itself I think, meanwhile Oreimo was on the absolute edge of jumping the shark with its last 4... Most people agree they are really bad even if you was rooting for Kirino. With the latest episodes cameo it seems they are holding nothing back letting viewers know this is a connected universe, we may get a crazy crossover some day.
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Jokuc said:

CaptainJumBo said:
spoiler for oreimo:

That's not true. In the PSP visual novel games they mention this cause they HAD to. But the visual novel is not canon. In Volume 12 of the light novel they even say


Well it's true in the VN, "alternative setting" I guess lmao and I prefer that one 2000x more.
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CaptainJumBo said:
Jokuc said:


That's not true. In the PSP visual novel games they mention this cause they HAD to. But the visual novel is not canon. In Volume 12 of the light novel they even say


Well it's true in the VN, "alternative setting" I guess lmao and I prefer that one 2000x more.


But that's not canon. They changed it just so they could make their romance possible without controversy.
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Yea the dick moment from Megumi was probably my least favorite bit the show did. When Eromanga Sensei had about 5 episodes out I kinda figured it would never catch up to Oreimos level of quality, and it has not yet... However I think it has shown these past few episodes that it can be really good.

If we get a season 2 that keeps up with the pace that episode 8 started and that peaked in episode 11, with a good enough ending we may just see some minds start changing. Eromanga Sensei had a bit of an awkward start but its found itself I think, meanwhile Oreimo was on the absolute edge of jumping the shark with its last 4... Most people agree they are really bad even if you was rooting for Kirino. With the latest episodes cameo it seems they are holding nothing back letting viewers know this is a connected universe, we may get a crazy crossover some day.

I agree with everything you said here. Also, might want to put that oreimo ending stuff in a spoiler.


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Well it's true in the VN, "alternative setting" I guess lmao and I prefer that one 2000x more.

Was about to say the same thing as teagon.. but yeah, glad you found an alternative setting that you enjoy
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Jokuc said:
Reikuo said:
Yea the dick moment from Megumi was probably my least favorite bit the show did. When Eromanga Sensei had about 5 episodes out I kinda figured it would never catch up to Oreimos level of quality, and it has not yet... However I think it has shown these past few episodes that it can be really good.

If we get a season 2 that keeps up with the pace that episode 8 started and that peaked in episode 11, with a good enough ending we may just see some minds start changing. Eromanga Sensei had a bit of an awkward start but its found itself I think, meanwhile Oreimo was on the absolute edge of jumping the shark with its last 4... Most people agree they are really bad even if you was rooting for Kirino. With the latest episodes cameo it seems they are holding nothing back letting viewers know this is a connected universe, we may get a crazy crossover some day.

I agree with everything you said here. Also, might want to put that oreimo ending stuff in a spoiler.


CaptainJumBo said:
Well it's true in the VN, "alternative setting" I guess lmao and I prefer that one 2000x more.

Was about to say the same thing as teagon.. but yeah, glad you found an alternative setting that you enjoy
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I haven't watched Oreimo yet, but I have to agree with you that yeah Eromanga-sensei is a trash show. I just like Elf, the reason why I'm still watching the show.

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I see you don't want Elf to win Izumi then ;) not gonna happen anyways HA! (too obvious)


This is actually an exception. Elf is such a more interesting character. I want her to be with mc.
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IMO, This show is beyond trash level...the problem with eromanga sensei is the abundant of fan-service...it keep bombard me with fanservice one after another...It took Oreimo to reach ep4 to see a panty shot..and through out the whole series, Ayase fanservice and everything else feel right and balanced out...Here its just feel forced and overkill, do you really have to keep panned the camera down to Sagiri crotch and butt all the time? Objectifying loli is okay when the anime is ecchi to begin with...eromanga sensei is not...

And the way everything seems to connect is beyond absurd...They love the MC just for that connection (even love on first sight is better than this setup)...every time a trash romance happen, i wanna compare it to SAO (because that's the series i hate the most where MC get sex with hardly any effort...kirito x asuna is worst than school days..there i said it)...Somehow eromanga is trashier than SAO when it comes to romance....its so uninspiring and lack of any impact that the moment the confession scene happened...it make you wonder "can romance/slice of life anime be any worst than this?"

If this really popular in Japan...it really show how low general otaku preference have become...its truly an insult to our intelligence...just like how Transformers did to cinema...
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On the contrary, I liked this better than Oreimo. Maybe this is just because I didn't like Kirino who seemed to just be a typical tsundere.

Inb4 someone misinterprets the above as "Eromanga = best anime ever". No, I'm not saying that at all; far from it, in fact.
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IMO, This show is beyond trash level...the problem with eromanga sensei is the abundant of fan-service...it keep bombard me with fanservice one after another...It took Oreimo to reach ep4 to see a panty shot..and through out the whole series, Ayase fanservice and everything else feel right and balanced out...Here its just feel forced and overkill, do you really have to keep panned the camera down to Sagiri crotch and butt all the time? Objectifying loli is okay when the anime is ecchi to begin with...eromanga sensei is not...

And the way everything seems to connect is beyond absurd...They love the MC just for that connection (even love on first sight is better than this setup)...every time a trash romance happen, i wanna compare it to SAO (because that's the series i hate the most where MC get sex with hardly any effort...kirito x asuna is worst than school days..there i said it)...Somehow eromanga is trashier than SAO when it comes to romance....its so uninspiring and lack of any impact that the moment the confession scene happened...it make you wonder "can romance/slice of life anime be any worst than this?"

If this really popular in Japan...it really show how low general otaku preference have become...its truly an insult to our intelligence...just like how Transformers did to cinema...

Are you caught up on all the episodes? Some of what your questioning gets answered later in the show.
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Yeah. Overall, I'm not really feelin this anime anymore. I mean I'm all for watching neat little fun shows that aren't mean to be taken seriously but this one is just so bad I can't even do that. Renai Bokun this season at least is an amusing parody.

Eromanga isn't even a parody. It's just a bad show. Way too convenient. With how they interacted with each other online as kids, their parents marrying, then dying, then the living situation. This show literally just is "Watch 20 minutes of unfunny memes and fanservice shots of all these loli girls inside a harem." I almost dropped the show after that one girl screamed how much she loved dicks. It has a few enjoyable moments and elf yamada seems to be the only one who brings anything interesting to the table. But yeah, pretty disappointing show.
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man yall negative AF

I love Eromanga Sensei, it's just a fun show with likeable characters and good comedy to make you feel good.

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I think Eromanga did something worse than being a bad show: It disappointed people.
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Baronight said:
IMO, This show is beyond trash level...the problem with eromanga sensei is the abundant of fan-service...it keep bombard me with fanservice one after another...It took Oreimo to reach ep4 to see a panty shot..and through out the whole series, Ayase fanservice and everything else feel right and balanced out...Here its just feel forced and overkill, do you really have to keep panned the camera down to Sagiri crotch and butt all the time? Objectifying loli is okay when the anime is ecchi to begin with...eromanga sensei is not...

And the way everything seems to connect is beyond absurd...They love the MC just for that connection (even love on first sight is better than this setup)...every time a trash romance happen, i wanna compare it to SAO (because that's the series i hate the most where MC get sex with hardly any effort...kirito x asuna is worst than school days..there i said it)...Somehow eromanga is trashier than SAO when it comes to romance....its so uninspiring and lack of any impact that the moment the confession scene happened...it make you wonder "can romance/slice of life anime be any worst than this?"

If this really popular in Japan...it really show how low general otaku preference have become...its truly an insult to our intelligence...just like how Transformers did to cinema...


This. I dont understand these romances, if you gonna make romance that consists only of panty fanservice shots with no development or characterisation of its characters over time, why just dont go watch hentai then without all the pointless bullshit ? The MC having harem (other than being voiced by Jesus-kun) doesnt make much sense anyway with him being average dense harem protagonist, and way how they tryed to explain their main romance in the last episode was pathetic at best. I understand that not every romance show can be Toradora, Clannad etc. but atleast give the story something else other than just fucking lolis without brains having all instant crushes on MC. As I said Oreimo did atleast that.
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man yall negative AF

I love Eromanga Sensei, it's just a fun show with likeable characters and good comedy to make you feel good.


Since the day episode 1 came out, I have yet to see a single criticism that was anything other then someone coming in and throwing around blanket talking points. For example...

teagon said:
I dont understand these romances, if you gonna make romance that consists only of panty fanservice shots with no development or characterisation of its characters over time, why just dont go watch hentai then without all the pointless bullshit ? The MC having harem (other than being voiced by Jesus-kun) doesnt make much sense anyway with him being average dense harem protagonist, and way how they tryed to explain their main romance in the last episode was pathetic at best. I understand that not every romance show can be Toradora, Clannad etc. but atleast give the story something else other than just fucking lolis without brains having all instant crushes on MC. As I said Oreimo did atleast that.

Its not just panty fanservice shots. There was plenty of development and characterization over time.

Whats pointless bullshit?

The first direct criticism you make, after throwing around random insults that have no correlation with anything, is the standard insult every harem ever created gets hit with. Boring protagonist. Im sorry the MC in this is just not bad enough, especially for the genre, to warrant this complaint. Its a cheap shot for someone who cant come up with a genuine criticism extracted from the content itself.

Episode 11 was pathetic at best? Anyone can just throw around insults, care to explain how its pathetic?

The show is not just lolis without brains having instant crushes. I mean what else can you say.

If your gonna write a hit piece try and at least do something other then throw around insults and generic harem criticisms copy and pasted 1000 times over.
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@Reikuo

Think people just went into this show with a negative attitude, because of the whole thing with Oreimo

I feel the same way as you do. People who mindlessly bash this show are nothing but tools.
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Eromanga-sensei is a scapegoat. The one show which the internet has seemingly decided you have to hate this season in order to maintain your online cool status. Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh
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Whats pointless bullshit?

The first direct criticism you make, after throwing around random insults that have no correlation with anything, is the standard insult every harem ever created gets hit with. Boring protagonist. Im sorry the MC in this is just not bad enough, especially for the genre, to warrant this complaint. Its a cheap shot for someone who cant come up with a genuine criticism extracted from the content itself.

Episode 11 was pathetic at best? Anyone can just throw around insults, care to explain how its pathetic?

The show is not just lolis without brains having instant crushes. I mean what else can you say.

If your gonna write a hit piece try and at least do something other then throw around insults and generic harem criticisms copy and pasted 1000 times over.


This show doesnt deserve any original criticism when the whole show itself is unoriginal as possible, how the insults can be any more better than that ? Just because this anime have the same cons as the half of harem genre doesnt mean that I have to be okay with that, why should I ?

My point was being that even by harem standarts those cons here are massive. Even by those same standarts dialogues are really bad just for Twitter memes, girls fall for MC faster than for Kirito (even he had to do something before girls were shouting in front of him "I love dicks !!!"), story as I said is not there, even harems have something interesting happening in the background to fill up the plot and dont tell me that whole "kids writing light (fanfics) novels" is it. I actually havent seen cryngeiest setting for anime in some time.

Aside from EP11 that tried give the romance some development (pathetically cos it was the freaking EP11 out of 12, before that she was as developed as average hentai loli at 04:20 of the video) and some bits of the Elf here and there all the girls were one dimensional lolis that I have seen 100x times before and I will never thought of them after this ends. Author even havent tried to futher develop them from their archetype bc you know who is gonna win this game (unlike other harems where guessing is part of the fun).

Or do you need more problems I have with this trash ? You may like this anime, but I am just writing what I see, nothing else. Sorry for not being genuine enough, like you can be while describing contents of average trash can.
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Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


I think you are really reaching here, nobody made a connection like this at all.
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teagon said:
HaXXspetten said:
Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


I think you are really reaching here, nobody made a connection like this at all.



You really think what he described is just a fantasy? I've been on MAL long enough to know that it sure as hell is happening. It happens every season. There's always that one show that the community picks out to shit on. And anyone that actually likes the show gets immediately slammed. "you like this show? Shit taste, pleb, you're the people ruining anime."


Every thread or comment section becomes a hate bandwagon echo chamber. It was Eromanga this season, I wonder what'll it be next season.

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teagon said:


I think you are really reaching here, nobody made a connection like this at all.



You really think what he described is just a fantasy? I've been on MAL long enough to know that it sure as hell is happening. It happens every season. There's always that one show that the community picks out to shit on. And anyone that actually likes the show gets immediately slammed. "you like this show? Shit taste, pleb, you're the people ruining anime."


Every thread or comment section becomes a hate bandwagon echo chamber. It was Eromanga this season, I wonder what'll it be next season.


I meant that nobody was implying something like that here in this thread. For sure there are people who think of fans of these shows as pedo but that wasnt my point here at all.

To be fair, I am not attacking anybody who likes this show (or others) just because my criticism ether when its constructive or just a rant like this one. I mean, I have watched and enjoyed bigger trash shows than this one, so I am not one to speak, but I always respect those opinions unless they are not insults (like you freaking pedo bc you watch this or smth like that). I dont have a need for crying over every one human that simply doesnt like what I do. Yeah some people simply dont like what others like for no reason.

But its different when I am just pointing out cons and ranting about this without much else, what you can easily ignore or dont agree on with no hard feelings. But when somebody starts to bashing into me for just criticising something I dont think that I am the bad guy here.
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CaptainJumBo said:
Love incest? Oreimo better.
Hate incest? Eromanga-sensei better.

spoiler for oreimo:

everyone in eromanga-sensei seem light-headed though i'll admit, on the other hand the plot is much better in my opinion. In oreimo it just seems like it's blatantly more focused only on "love" which makes it super boring at least for me throughout the series since there's no actual interesting main goal for the mc.
i thought eromanga was also incest?
Jun 24, 2017 2:22 AM

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teagon said:
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You really think what he described is just a fantasy? I've been on MAL long enough to know that it sure as hell is happening. It happens every season. There's always that one show that the community picks out to shit on. And anyone that actually likes the show gets immediately slammed. "you like this show? Shit taste, pleb, you're the people ruining anime."


Every thread or comment section becomes a hate bandwagon echo chamber. It was Eromanga this season, I wonder what'll it be next season.


I meant that nobody was implying something like that here in this thread. For sure there are people who think of fans of these shows as pedo but that wasnt my point here at all.

To be fair, I am not attacking anybody who likes this show (or others) just because my criticism ether when its constructive or just a rant like this one. I mean, I have watched and enjoyed bigger trash shows than this one, so I am not one to speak, but I always respect those opinions unless they are not insults (like you freaking pedo bc you watch this or smth like that). I dont have a need for crying over every one human that simply doesnt like what I do. Yeah some people simply dont like what others like for no reason.

But its different when I am just pointing out cons and ranting about this without much else, what you can easily ignore or dont agree on with no hard feelings. But when somebody starts to bashing into me for just criticising something I dont think that I am the bad guy here.



Neither of us were bashing you. I just want to make it clear that what HaX said was true.

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Mayuka said:
CaptainJumBo said:
Love incest? Oreimo better.
Hate incest? Eromanga-sensei better.

spoiler for oreimo:

everyone in eromanga-sensei seem light-headed though i'll admit, on the other hand the plot is much better in my opinion. In oreimo it just seems like it's blatantly more focused only on "love" which makes it super boring at least for me throughout the series since there's no actual interesting main goal for the mc.
i thought eromanga was also incest?

step-incest ayylmao if u read the novels though the next volume might reveal some shady shit and hopefully it doesn't cuz if it does, it's oreimo all over again AND PLEASE DON'T TRY TO GUESS WHAT IT IS.
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You guys expected too much. This show is all about fanservice, there is no solid plot or character development. That was obvious from the fist episode. So I just enjoyed fanservice and good visuals. I mean, Eromanga was quite enjoyable if you're in sister-loving stuff and treated show in a proper way.
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CaptainJumBo said:
Mayuka said:
i thought eromanga was also incest?

step-incest ayylmao if u read the novels though the next volume might reveal some shady shit and hopefully it doesn't cuz if it does, it's oreimo all over again AND PLEASE DON'T TRY TO GUESS WHAT IT IS.
Oops, yep I meant step-sibling. So yeah, Oreimo and Eromanga have the same incest thing going on.
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Eromanga-sensei is a scapegoat. The one show which the internet has seemingly decided you have to hate this season in order to maintain your online cool status. Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


Nobody in this thread said anything like that. I know there are people who do, but as far as I know, op ..and myself pointed out valid points to why the show is way worse than oreimo.
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Jokuc said:
HaXXspetten said:
Eromanga-sensei is a scapegoat. The one show which the internet has seemingly decided you have to hate this season in order to maintain your online cool status. Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


Nobody in this thread said anything like that. I know there are people who do, but as far as I know, op ..and myself pointed out valid points to why the show is way worse than oreimo.
Yeah I wasn't saying that anyone here in particular necessarily did that. But I'm sure many people have seen what I'm talking about if you've hung around on MAL's forums throughout the season (or any active anime Discord channel for that matter)
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I haven't seen it yet, but as long as the girl is less of a bitch than Kirino was I'll probably like it better then Oreimo.
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HaXXspetten said:
I wasn't saying that anyone here in particular necessarily did that. But I'm sure many people have seen what I'm talking about if you've hung around on MAL's forums throughout the season (or any active anime Discord channel for that matter)

I'm aware (and that's sad to see as one who really enjoys watching these kind of shows), but I replied because your comment wasn't really relevant to the subject of the thread.

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bitch Kirino

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man yall negative AF

Whats pointless bullshit?

The first direct criticism you make, after throwing around random insults that have no correlation with anything, is the standard insult every harem ever created gets hit with. Boring protagonist. Im sorry the MC in this is just not bad enough, especially for the genre, to warrant this complaint. Its a cheap shot for someone who cant come up with a genuine criticism extracted from the content itself.

Episode 11 was pathetic at best? Anyone can just throw around insults, care to explain how its pathetic?

The show is not just lolis without brains having instant crushes. I mean what else can you say.

If your gonna write a hit piece try and at least do something other then throw around insults and generic harem criticisms copy and pasted 1000 times over.


This show doesnt deserve any original criticism when the whole show itself is unoriginal as possible, how the insults can be any more better than that ? Just because this anime have the same cons as the half of harem genre doesnt mean that I have to be okay with that, why should I ?

My point was being that even by harem standarts those cons here are massive. Even by those same standarts dialogues are really bad just for Twitter memes, girls fall for MC faster than for Kirito (even he had to do something before girls were shouting in front of him "I love dicks !!!"), story as I said is not there, even harems have something interesting happening in the background to fill up the plot and dont tell me that whole "kids writing light (fanfics) novels" is it. I actually havent seen cryngeiest setting for anime in some time.

Aside from EP11 that tried give the romance some development (pathetically cos it was the freaking EP11 out of 12, before that she was as developed as average hentai loli at 04:20 of the video) and some bits of the Elf here and there all the girls were one dimensional lolis that I have seen 100x times before and I will never thought of them after this ends. Author even havent tried to futher develop them from their archetype bc you know who is gonna win this game (unlike other harems where guessing is part of the fun).

Or do you need more problems I have with this trash ? You may like this anime, but I am just writing what I see, nothing else. Sorry for not being genuine enough, like you can be while describing contents of average trash can.

So your complaints are that the show trended on Twitter, and is a harem? You still never explained why episode 11 is pathetic, you said it not me. Why do you keep comparing it to SAO? Especially if you have seen these characters 100 times over? Seems your no stranger to hopping on a bandwagon to pick on the popular show.

Your entitled to do so, and have an opinion, but it seems the best you can muster is just throwing around a bunch of insults. Its no surprise you have been unable to extract anything worthwhile out of the show your attitude.
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Im the one who first start compare to SAO...they make no relation...i just feel like picking SAO as starting point for a bad romance anime that get a lot of hype (key point...HYPE)

Now, its funny people say Eromanga is a scapegoat anime to get bashed on this season...no its not... Eromanga being bashed is not because its shitty...but because how popular it is despite being shitty...

I dun really mind about the whole incest thing...it just overall execution of this anime is really bland and generic...someone point out i need to watch latest episode to see the character development...Yeap, i did that, but that's not character development whatsoever..just backstory, of something very obvious...everything just connected, just like that...conveniently

IMO, this anime is beyond salvation...It's way too shallow and poorly executed...it bombard you with cuteness after cuteness to compensate for it hollow content...Oreimo is interesting, Candy Boy is interesting...heck, Yosuga no Sora is interesting...Eromanga is not (assuming you want to compare incest anime)

But, if you find alot of enjoyment from this anime...then more power to you...i would recommend this season Tsuki ga Kirei or Saenai for better romcom series (im pretty veteran with romance anime, so you can take my word that these two definitely entertain you)....

In all honesty though, i would prefer people not label me (us?) as "hater gonna hate", as if its cool to be different, by tearing up great anime and being nitpick on small detail....please just no...im too old for those shit anyway...
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I cannot believe one of the complaints of OP is that the MC is like Kirito. I just can't, SAO has done a lot of damage to this community, I swear.
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I cannot believe one of the complaints of OP is that the MC is like Kirito. I just can't, SAO has done a lot of damage to this community, I swear.


That has to be one of the most enlightening words I've heard so far. Truly one of a kind, just make sense who can MAL affect us all.

Anyway to add to it. If OreImo is one of the trash to some users. I'd never have thought of that there would be something that will really go down it.


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Characters are blant with no development just for sake of being there, story is missing, whole "12 year olds writing novels" thing feels retarded, MC is freaking Ki-ri-to and yes, our imouto had a major upgrade with result of most cute and urealistic girl ever - shut-in loli imouto that draws eroge and loves onii-chan [did I mentioned that THEY ARE NOT BLOOD RELATED, for some reason show likes to remind you this] - yeah, they are pussies for not going full incest even this time;


>complains because not go full incest

Please don't tell me that you rant because OreImo go full incest? (well not really but it somewhat did)
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the ending was meh.
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@Baronight I died of laughing reading your post I feel the same bro anime in Japan is reaching the lowest level of its kind
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HaXXspetten said:
Eromanga-sensei is a scapegoat. The one show which the internet has seemingly decided you have to hate this season in order to maintain your online cool status. Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


This, It seems anime community especially MAL has a tendency of what you've just pointed out. Some people might have a valid reason on why they dislike the show, but in eromanga sensei case, the hate bandwagon is too apparent and these people uses random and generic insults such as what the op did.
For me, I like Oreimo better but I don't think Eromanga is a trash show. The show was enjoyable and funny at times despite the lack of coherent flow and storytelling
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TriZen said:
HaXXspetten said:
Eromanga-sensei is a scapegoat. The one show which the internet has seemingly decided you have to hate this season in order to maintain your online cool status. Because you know, saying that you like it is the same as admitting you're a pedo, amirite?

The anime community is pretty sad sometimes tbh


This, It seems anime community especially MAL has a tendency of what you've just pointed out. Some people might have a valid reason on why they dislike the show, but in eromanga sensei case, the hate bandwagon is too apparent and these people uses random and generic insults such as what the op did.
For me, I like Oreimo better but I don't think Eromanga is a trash show. The show was enjoyable and funny at times despite the lack of coherent flow and storytelling



I've never been in this hate train before but still I had the shittest feeling watching Eromanga while waiting for anything interesting to happen like in Oreimo which was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay interesting than that this MC is a natural f*ck boy who keeps screaming like a little b*** for the whole show I mean have you seen 12th episode dude called his little sister's friend to tell his little sister that she draw the dick in the wrong spot that literally had me smacking my head and worse of the that Sagiri is the most annoying little sister she even beat Kirino's level
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teagon said:
Oreimo had everything above but also had more to say and if you ignore shitty ending it was a very enjoyable show with decent characters and development in which they put all the trashy elements for us to enjoy. Eromanga is only that trash and nothing else.

I totally agree with what you say about Oreimo. I don't know if I'd go so far to call Eromanga trash, but it is 10 times inferior to Oreimo.

Today, I had lots of free time and nothing else to do, so I decided to binge-watch the first season of Oreimo. I'm currently finishing the true end ONA. A good opportunity for comparing it to Eromanga...

One reason I like Oreimo better is that it actually has a plot. Eromanga had sort of one in the beginning (get shut-in imouto to leave her room), but lost it midway into the season. Sure, Oreimo had fillers too, but each of those were episodic little resolved tales in themselves at least.

As for the other main reason, Oreimo manages characterization and development way better than Eromanga. I totally understand why people (including myself) hate Kirino. Of course, her character is a little tsundere-ish overdone. But to me she was kind of an accurate depiction of a real world overly spoiled teenager. But it's not only her. There's no way in comparing Muramasa to Kuroneko, for the latter's troubles she hides behind a curtain of misunderstood arrogance are authentic, too.
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Yup, that's basically what it is. A less realistic, trashier version of Oreimo.
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