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Jul 20, 2016 4:44 PM

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Tony_SansNom said:
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Girl in the pic loves awful, exactly what I'm talking about.


Just because she hasn't really been introduced properly yet, or because you don't understand her, it doesn't mean she is "awful" (if you're talking about Emillia).


Talking about the cosplayer..but Emilia so far has been really bland. & boring as the main female character. Apparently she gets better later on.
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Jul 20, 2016 5:06 PM

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I still fucking hate Subaru

Yeah, I'm not too crazy for him either.

At least he's getting a little more interesting with his "dark side" and obvious anger issues
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Omni_slash95 said:
Tony_SansNom said:


Just because she hasn't really been introduced properly yet, or because you don't understand her, it doesn't mean she is "awful" (if you're talking about Emillia).


Talking about the cosplayer..but Emilia so far has been really bland. & boring as the main female character. Apparently she gets better later on.


Oh sorry then. Yes she's really bland right now...
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Jul 20, 2016 7:42 PM

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subaru stays being annoying. why he is the way he is right now makes sense within the context of the story, but the whole point is that he's SUPPOSED to be in a bad place so he's obviously not an enjoyable MC to watch rn. i honestly can't wait for him to realize how foolish he's been and atone for all of his reckless actions. he pulled it off once during ram and rem's arc so i'm sure he can do it again.

the girls were incredible though and honestly make the show. like the scene with priscilla? truly amazing.
Jul 20, 2016 10:10 PM
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Subaru has been a complete retard since the beginning of this arc, I really hope he snaps out of it and goes back to how he was.
Jul 20, 2016 10:31 PM

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The Intensity increases!
The Madness increases!
The events are getting worse!
All of the royal candidates are useless!
OMG everything is despair!
I can't formulate the words to comment lolz!
Everything Subaru does only makes it worse! even the reset doesn't help! and actually making it worse!
5/5!


Jul 20, 2016 11:04 PM

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matias067 said:
The Intensity increases!
The Madness increases!
The events are getting worse!
All of the royal candidates are useless!
OMG everything is despair!
I can't formulate the words to comment lolz!
Everything Subaru does only makes it worse! even the reset doesn't help! and actually making it worse!
5/5!


the reset helps. when Subaru actually get it together. he's "needs" to be an idiot for a few resets first before doing it right.
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Jul 20, 2016 11:53 PM

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What on earth was that at the end?!

No, don't tell me, I just felt like exclaiming something. Still resisting the urge to start reading the LNs out of impatience to find out what happens next.
Jul 21, 2016 9:00 AM

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dog kept barking during this episode so i think i only got 70% of what was happening
Jul 21, 2016 1:05 PM

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While definitely not as amazing as the last episode, this was still very good in its own right
Honestly all the people calling subaru stupid in these forums are starting to piss me off, in my opinion he is making some stupid decisions but that doesnt make him stupid, he's just desperate and in my opinion he is a very realistic character that is not perfect, thats what makes him such a good character
Also, i know that we'll probably only hear it like two more times at the most, but i love the new ED
Jul 21, 2016 1:23 PM

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How does it not occur to Subaru that he can ask Felt for help as well..? Surely she could easily order some knights to help him out or something
Jul 21, 2016 2:31 PM

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Zoa6 said:
How does it not occur to Subaru that he can ask Felt for help as well..? Surely she could easily order some knights to help him out or something


I don't think she would agree to helping him that easily if she even decided to do so.
Jul 21, 2016 2:41 PM
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Sorry but this has become unwatchable... No real progression. Subaru just keeps shouting at everybody and doesn't even come close to achieving anything by it. He even was told three times he has nothing to offer for a deal and still doesn't understand why nobody is helping him.

The bitch candidate was quite irritating, too. What did she expect him to do? Just throw away the only chance someone showed him? Did she really think he wasn't desperate enough to lick her foot?

Well, at least the mercenary candidate and her company was kinda cool. I swear just cut Subaru and Emilia out of this anime and it would be so much less irritating.

TBH for me this has been going downwards since episode 8 or 9. If we'll just see him die again next episode I'm not sure if I'm going to stay around for it. By now it's really pissing me off how heavily exaggerated everything has to be every single god damn time.
Jul 21, 2016 3:58 PM

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That big eye at the end was freaky, and the driver, Otto I think, doesn't remember the other driver, that's interesting. Got a feeling next episode gonna be hype.


I sensed something like that was going to happen. Not only them encountering the white whale but it having an apparent effect on their recollection. For those who have watched Avatar: The Legend of Korra there was a particular place in the spirit world engulfed in fog. Those who found themselves lost in it were condemned by a feeling of hopelessness, trapped in their most destructive delusions. I suspect the group will have to find the strength to push out of their own demons in order to pass or be trapped forever. Whether Subaru's power will give him leverage in this is interesting to say the least.
Jul 21, 2016 4:03 PM

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Loved the episode, but Subaru is starting to piss me off hoo boy


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「 i know i've got a big ego -

i really don't know why it's such a big deal, though 」

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Jul 21, 2016 4:14 PM

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Nanashi said:
Sorry but this has become unwatchable... No real progression. Subaru just keeps shouting at everybody and doesn't even come close to achieving anything by it. He even was told three times he has nothing to offer for a deal and still doesn't understand why nobody is helping him.

The bitch candidate was quite irritating, too. What did she expect him to do? Just throw away the only chance someone showed him? Did she really think he wasn't desperate enough to lick her foot?

Well, at least the mercenary candidate and her company was kinda cool. I swear just cut Subaru and Emilia out of this anime and it would be so much less irritating.

TBH for me this has been going downwards since episode 8 or 9. If we'll just see him die again next episode I'm not sure if I'm going to stay around for it. By now it's really pissing me off how heavily exaggerated everything has to be every single god damn time.


Yeah no worries don't have to apologize for an opinion. I couldn't agree more that the anime is going downhill. It was a 10 for me and already down to 8 or 7. I already know the major spoiler coming up so all I can say is-

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Zoa6 said:
How does it not occur to Subaru that he can ask Felt for help as well..? Surely she could easily order some knights to help him out or something


It's already known that Reinhard is away from the capital. It's already known that Reinhard is now serving as Felt's personal knight.

How the hell do people not make the connection that Felt is with Reinhard, and also away from the capital at the moment?
Jul 21, 2016 5:25 PM

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Judgment526 said:
Zoa6 said:
How does it not occur to Subaru that he can ask Felt for help as well..? Surely she could easily order some knights to help him out or something


It's already known that Reinhard is away from the capital. It's already known that Reinhard is now serving as Felt's personal knight.

How the hell do people not make the connection that Felt is with Reinhard, and also away from the capital at the moment?

Does having a personal knight mean you have to follow that knight around everywhere at all times? And even when the only reason you are even running in the election was to save someone you view as a father/grandfather? No information is given about Felt's whereabouts, so it's impossible to logically determine where she might be.
Jul 21, 2016 5:31 PM

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Judgment526 said:
Zoa6 said:
How does it not occur to Subaru that he can ask Felt for help as well..? Surely she could easily order some knights to help him out or something


It's already known that Reinhard is away from the capital. It's already known that Reinhard is now serving as Felt's personal knight.

How the hell do people not make the connection that Felt is with Reinhard, and also away from the capital at the moment?


And it's not like Felt would have agreed to help that easily anyway too.
Jul 21, 2016 5:48 PM

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Zoa6 said:
Judgment526 said:


It's already known that Reinhard is away from the capital. It's already known that Reinhard is now serving as Felt's personal knight.

How the hell do people not make the connection that Felt is with Reinhard, and also away from the capital at the moment?

Does having a personal knight mean you have to follow that knight around everywhere at all times? And even when the only reason you are even running in the election was to save someone you view as a father/grandfather? No information is given about Felt's whereabouts, so it's impossible to logically determine where she might be.


Do you think that, as Felt's personal knight, Reinhard would leave her in the capital where all her enemies are gathered? Imagine the shame that would befall him if she were assassinated in his absence. I'm not saying that they need to be together 24/7, but you would expect them to at least be in the same general location.

Anyway, the official answer is that yes, they are indeed together at the moment, as mentioned in the LN, if it wasn't obvious enough, so let's just leave it at that.
Jul 21, 2016 5:59 PM

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SO HE DID DECIDE TO TELL OTHERS. Very good, was hoping he would at least try, but it makes sense that it wouldn't work out, too many problems. Unfortunately, Subaru still really lacks control of his emotions. This combined with how desperate he is is clearly a very big problem for him and I don't he's gonna get anywhere at all until he gains some self-control.

Would have liked too see a spoon being held in a threatening manner though.
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Nanashi said:
Sorry but this has become unwatchable... No real progression. Subaru just keeps shouting at everybody and doesn't even come close to achieving anything by it. He even was told three times he has nothing to offer for a deal and still doesn't understand why nobody is helping him.

The bitch candidate was quite irritating, too. What did she expect him to do? Just throw away the only chance someone showed him? Did she really think he wasn't desperate enough to lick her foot?

Well, at least the mercenary candidate and her company was kinda cool. I swear just cut Subaru and Emilia out of this anime and it would be so much less irritating.

TBH for me this has been going downwards since episode 8 or 9. If we'll just see him die again next episode I'm not sure if I'm going to stay around for it. By now it's really pissing me off how heavily exaggerated everything has to be every single god damn time.


Yeah no worries don't have to apologize for an opinion. I couldn't agree more that the anime is going downhill. It was a 10 for me and already down to 8 or 7. I already know the major spoiler coming up so all I can say is-



"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."

Jul 22, 2016 3:47 AM

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I think right now there is something better than a progression of Subaru character. We have a kind of regression, to discover the worst part of Subaru, the worst part of us, hate, pride, the conseguence of pain.
All this is realized perfectly.
Jul 22, 2016 7:57 AM
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Fai said:


The show spent all episodes from 12 to 16 so far not only forgetting its first 11 episodes(and what subaru learned there) but also literally repeating the same pattern of Subaru being hateable idiot who makes situation worse for himself and suffers gory sadistic outcomes.



Arc 3 is not either particularly worse or better than the previous arcs. The arc 3 preserves all the same strengths and the flaws the show had in the previous arcs.

1) Subaru was often (or sometimes) an annoying jerk and a dick in the previous arc (remember how he was often rude and disrespectful towards Bea-co?)

2) He also was desperate (and/or heroic) to save everyone whom he had some connection with (the villagers, Emilia, Rem...)

3) He was just as poor at explaining the situation and persuading others as he is in this arc 3. (for example, he was no better when he insisted to go to the village in order to defeat the ma-beast and save the kids in danger. And there was no indication that he learned something from it because it worked out well anyhow thanks to Roswaald's surprise show-up.)

4) And the gore part you mentioned - gore for the sake of gore in your view - Even this isn't really different from the previous arc. One can argue the gore, torture scenes depicted in the episode 15 is not really made gore for its own sake, but presented to maximize sentimental and melodramatic effect of Rem & Subaru's tragedy and sufferings. The scene where Subaru jumped off the cliff to rewind time in order to get everything done right (saving Rem) is as much melodramatic.

In sum, Nothing really changed except that everything got exaggerated and amplified in this arc than before. If anything, the circumstances turned out way harder and unfavorable for him than before (Remember that Subaru's attempt of befriending the villagers by teaching a modern Japanese Radio dance somehow magically worked well in the previous arcs? Was that Subaru truly more realistic and/or smarter than he is now?)


For better or worse, this show and Subaru have been always like that.

Edit: Here is a quotation of my earlier comment on what the show is really about.

I know almost nothing of Orange, but I agree that Steins Gate and Erased are much better than Re:zero in terms of mystery, suspense and "Go back in time to fix the problems". As a WL reader, I say Re:zero is mediocre at best as regards to those aspects. For example, the conclusion of the mystery of arc 2 - who spelled the curse on Subaru, and why? - is underwhelming: "So, it was the puppy shaped ma-beast which spelled a curse on him? That's all ??? Meh..."

But I see why Re:zero appeals so strongly for some audience and has hard-core fans. The novel (and the anime) puts a good deal of emphasis on conveying 'emotionally touching, shocking and turbulent impact combined with human dramatic elements' - such as Subaru's firm determination to save a maid despite that she brutally tortured and killed him, his heroic attempt of saving the kids in danger and vivid descriptions of highly violent and brutal pains and deaths the MC suffers to the extent that it is sometimes close to being a borderline torture porn and so on -. It's not that those aspects is not found in other loop anime - i.e., Steins gate or Erased - , but that they are given way more emphasis in Re:Zero. And Re:Zero's approach obviously works for many, though I'm one of those who find the novel/anime just mildly entertaining, no more no less.

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Which mystery though?

MC's search for the real culprit.


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Anyway, Re:Zero's main theme is not mystery..

That IS my point I made clear in my earlier comment.
Jul 22, 2016 8:24 AM

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smoct_ai said:
MC's search for the real culprit.

That is a thriller and not a mystery though (also because there is only one possible culprit if you consider Knox's laws).
Re:Zero nice troll ending.
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Sometimes791 said:
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MC's search for the real culprit.

That is a thriller and not a mystery though (also because there is only one possible culprit if you consider Knox's laws).


If you want to call it a thriller, I don't care. And I don't think Erase is that good at mystery either. I only said it is much better than Subaru's search for the culprit in the arc 2.
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smoct_ai said:
Sometimes791 said:

That is a thriller and not a mystery though (also because there is only one possible culprit if you consider Knox's laws).


If you want to call it a thriller, I don't care. And I don't think Erase is that good at mystery either. I only said it is much better than Subaru's search for the culprit in the arc 2.


Erased can't even compare. The only good thing that probably attracted people is that it feels like one of those animation movie that people all like.
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smoct_ai said:


If you want to call it a thriller, I don't care. And I don't think Erase is that good at mystery either. I only said it is much better than Subaru's search for the culprit in the arc 2.


Erased can't even compare. The only good thing that probably attracted people is that it feels like one of those animation movie that people all like.


But it is still true that arc 2 of Re:zero is much poorer in terms of mystery, suspense and "Go back in time to fix the problems".

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying those aspects are the main beef of Re:Zero.
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Dang Subaru got... fcked in more ways than one, literally every candidate trolled the fck outta him, cant really blame them tho since the way Subaru asking for help was not the right way to ask for one, and was it just me or did anyone else wanted Priscilla to kick the him as well, dude was literally ok with licking her foot, that is not what a man does (then again he's desperate and full of rage atm)

Also WTF was that giant eye cliffhanger? was that a giant beast creature or somethin? that was surprising, and finally we got ED visual, the visuals doesnt exactly help the atmosphere this anime is building but heck Emilia based ED is a good enough ending for me.


Listen... Any man who wouldn't lick Priscilla's foot cannot call themselves a man
Jul 22, 2016 1:43 PM

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Not a man with dignity, anyway. ;)
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Everything went wrong for Subaru. Again.

And it appeared which means next episode should be a crazy episode.



R we seeing another possible loop around here?
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I find it strange how people that give this series a bad rating here on MAL, indicate that the MC is weak willed and they feel no symphathy for him at all. What do they expect him to do go all shonen power house crazy lol. Honestly i don't see that as a flaw at all. Considering all the pain suffer, humiliation and torment that he has had to went through. Its natural order of things, that he would act so desperate and in need of help.



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I said it before and I will say it again for good measure.

you can't compare this anime to others who did the go back in time to fix things because

1. Subaru actually dies while the others used some device/power to go back in time without dying themselves and

2. You can't really call this time traveling but more like wasting lives in a video game and abusing save points. This is a huge difference that affects subaru's mental state and how others see him.
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I said it before and I will say it again for good measure.

you can't compare this anime to others who did the go back in time to fix things because

1. Subaru actually dies while the others used some device/power to go back in time without dying themselves and

2. You can't really call this time traveling but more like wasting lives in a video game and abusing save points. This is a huge difference that affects subaru's mental state and how others see him.


GREAT COMMENT , you had my respect bro
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I'm sure someone has noticed it by now, but has anyone noticed Subaru is going through the 5 stages of Grief?

"The five stages, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance are a part of the framework that makes up our learning to live with the one we lost. "

Denial is obviously when he's in the village, he pretends to not see all the corpses, until he trips over one and flips out. Anger is obviously after Rem was killed by Betel juice, even Crusch noted how angry and blood thirsty Subaru was.

Then comes Bargaining, which I'm assuming is how Subaru is now learning how to negotiate (Or maybe there's still more to come).

If so, we still have depression and acceptance to come yet.
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I find it rather amazing these candidates are pointing out the flaws in Subaru's approach when their behavior in front of the wise men of the capital was abysmal. They could have certainly used this advice and conduct there, where they displayed themselves in front of all these noblemen and knights. Guess not?

Seriously, this Anastasia girl was all like "oooh, time is money lol don't waste my time" and "I'm a greedy bitch so I wanna rule the nation" (who in their right minds would EVER say this in public? It was an obvious forced introduction to her mentality) and SOMEHOW she has the nerve to tell Subaru off for sucking at negociations and talking to people in general? Not that she isn't right, but this is inconsistent. People complain about Subaru, but this is what's been bothering me most instead. Subaru is being stupid because he's falling into the madness of possessing the power he does and not being able to tell a single soul about it, so I don't mind it as much (but even then, this development's a bit on the awkward side).

Somehow, Subaru is a greedy pig for giving up his dignity for help? If it was to save lives, especially of people I find dear, I'd lick anyone's foot any day. There is no greed in morality. I didn't expect him to get help from Priscilla, but I at least expected better reasoning. It was obvious that Subaru wasn't gonna get anyone's help, and as much as I'd be in for getting to know these candidates through that, I don't feel it's that effective. It seemed to be a way to not only show off the fact that Subaru is desperate in his madness, but also that these candidates are not people to be taken lightly. However, I can't help but remind myself of uh, I think it was episode 13? Which didn't prove these people to be actually competent. If it weren't for the insignias, I don't think these people would've ever been considered, at least if I were in charge lol.

Episode 15 (and the previous episode, the more I think about it) pulled an Attack on Titan on everything (but somehow worse) by jumping out of every interesting plot line's way as if they were passing trains it shouldn't crash into and deploying its maximum sadism all of a sudden, and now the direction it's taking is far less interesting than I would've hoped. I liked getting to know how everything happened and who did everything for Subaru to die and the resets to happen, but now that we know how it happened (the mansion got attacked; it got frozen because Puck used his powers) and who did it (the witch's cult attacked them), I just kinda want it to end. I'm not sure if the reason for the attack stated by Crusch is the actual reason, so if anything, knowing that would be the only thing I'd look forward to. Oh, and the prospect of maybe seeing and having a good moment with Emilia (if the stars allign, once in a blue moon), because it's like the author doesn't like Emilia or something and keeps having her either not being the focus or not being around. These recent episodes have even been downgrading Subaru's romance with Emilia, so that might as well be true, to be honest.

Either way, I just hope the anime picks itself up from this and perhaps addresses why the hell the people from the mansion couldn't use the library.
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gosh why did anything went so wrong :(
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I find it rather amazing these candidates are pointing out the flaws in Subaru's approach when their behavior in front of the wise men of the capital was abysmal. They could have certainly used this advice and conduct there, where they displayed themselves in front of all these noblemen and knights. Guess not?

Seriously, this Anastasia girl was all like "oooh, time is money lol don't waste my time" and "I'm a greedy bitch so I wanna rule the nation" (who in their right minds would EVER say this in public? It was an obvious forced introduction to her mentality) and SOMEHOW she has the nerve to tell Subaru off for sucking at negociations and talking to people in general? Not that she isn't right, but this is inconsistent. People complain about Subaru, but this is what's been bothering me most instead. Subaru is being stupid because he's falling into the madness of possessing the power he does and not being able to tell a single soul about it, so I don't mind it as much (but even then, this development's a bit on the awkward side).

Somehow, Subaru is a greedy pig for giving up his dignity for help? If it was to save lives, especially of people I find dear, I'd lick anyone's foot any day. There is no greed in morality. I didn't expect him to get help from Priscilla, but I at least expected better reasoning. It was obvious that Subaru wasn't gonna get anyone's help, and as much as I'd be in for getting to know these candidates through that, I don't feel it's that effective. It seemed to be a way to not only show off the fact that Subaru is desperate in his madness, but also that these candidates are not people to be taken lightly. However, I can't help but remind myself of uh, I think it was episode 13? Which didn't prove these people to be actually competent. If it weren't for the insignias, I don't think these people would've ever been considered, at least if I were in charge lol.

Episode 15 (and the previous episode, the more I think about it) pulled an Attack on Titan on everything (but somehow worse) by jumping out of every interesting plot line's way as if they were passing trains it shouldn't crash into and deploying its maximum sadism all of a sudden, and now the direction it's taking is far less interesting than I would've hoped. I liked getting to know how everything happened and who did everything for Subaru to die and the resets to happen, but now that we know how it happened (the mansion got attacked; it got frozen because Puck used his powers) and who did it (the witch's cult attacked them), I just kinda want it to end. I'm not sure if the reason for the attack stated by Crusch is the actual reason, so if anything, knowing that would be the only thing I'd look forward to. Oh, and the prospect of maybe seeing and having a good moment with Emilia (if the stars allign, once in a blue moon), because it's like the author doesn't like Emilia or something and keeps having her either not being the focus or not being around. These recent episodes have even been downgrading Subaru's romance with Emilia, so that might as well be true, to be honest.

Either way, I just hope the anime picks itself up from this and perhaps addresses why the hell the people from the mansion couldn't use the library.

I mentioned this in my last post here, but I thought the anime would be a better watch all in one sitting; at least, judging by what we've seen thus far. If you were watching it in one sitting, the last few episodes wouldn't feel particularly tedious, and Episode 16 would feel a bit of a welcome change of pace. Regardless, there are still more unanswered questions left and I look forward to seeing how they deal with all the currently displayed issues (whale, where did puck come from, what is the deal with Return by Death - why does Subaru have it and how does it connect to his world, what will happen to all the other contestants, will Subaru actually gain some sort of power - will he improve his magic, will Emilia and Subaru end up together, etc).
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Aines445 said:
I find it rather amazing these candidates are pointing out the flaws in Subaru's approach when their behavior in front of the wise men of the capital was abysmal. They could have certainly used this advice and conduct there, where they displayed themselves in front of all these noblemen and knights. Guess not?

Seriously, this Anastasia girl was all like "oooh, time is money lol don't waste my time" and "I'm a greedy bitch so I wanna rule the nation" (who in their right minds would EVER say this in public? It was an obvious forced introduction to her mentality) and SOMEHOW she has the nerve to tell Subaru off for sucking at negociations and talking to people in general? Not that she isn't right, but this is inconsistent. People complain about Subaru, but this is what's been bothering me most instead. Subaru is being stupid because he's falling into the madness of possessing the power he does and not being able to tell a single soul about it, so I don't mind it as much (but even then, this development's a bit on the awkward side).

Somehow, Subaru is a greedy pig for giving up his dignity for help? If it was to save lives, especially of people I find dear, I'd lick anyone's foot any day. There is no greed in morality. I didn't expect him to get help from Priscilla, but I at least expected better reasoning. It was obvious that Subaru wasn't gonna get anyone's help, and as much as I'd be in for getting to know these candidates through that, I don't feel it's that effective. It seemed to be a way to not only show off the fact that Subaru is desperate in his madness, but also that these candidates are not people to be taken lightly. However, I can't help but remind myself of uh, I think it was episode 13? Which didn't prove these people to be actually competent. If it weren't for the insignias, I don't think these people would've ever been considered, at least if I were in charge lol.

Episode 15 (and the previous episode, the more I think about it) pulled an Attack on Titan on everything (but somehow worse) by jumping out of every interesting plot line's way as if they were passing trains it shouldn't crash into and deploying its maximum sadism all of a sudden, and now the direction it's taking is far less interesting than I would've hoped. I liked getting to know how everything happened and who did everything for Subaru to die and the resets to happen, but now that we know how it happened (the mansion got attacked; it got frozen because Puck used his powers) and who did it (the witch's cult attacked them), I just kinda want it to end. I'm not sure if the reason for the attack stated by Crusch is the actual reason, so if anything, knowing that would be the only thing I'd look forward to. Oh, and the prospect of maybe seeing and having a good moment with Emilia (if the stars allign, once in a blue moon), because it's like the author doesn't like Emilia or something and keeps having her either not being the focus or not being around. These recent episodes have even been downgrading Subaru's romance with Emilia, so that might as well be true, to be honest.

Either way, I just hope the anime picks itself up from this and perhaps addresses why the hell the people from the mansion couldn't use the library.


This is one of the inevitable consequences of the anime featuring a super-condensed version of the original candidate meeting scene. In the LN, each candidate was painted as controversial, yet convincing at the same time, but since the anime reduced each candidate's spotlight to essentially one line per person, it was pretty much impossible to convey any of this properly.
Jul 22, 2016 5:31 PM

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WTF happened in the end? Was that some kind of illusion? Seems Rem noticed nothing, in fact, she was unnaturaly still near him when the dragon appeared. Of course they may lead them to the tree intentionally, to ambush them. And I wonder what consequence of taking mobile phone out would be.

Anyway, this episode was nice in showing him that they can believe noone. Crusch does only what benefits her (interesting that Subaru now thinks more of those people and Rem than Emilia), Priscilla despises lowly people more than anything (although she was wrong on the reason why he wanted lick her - it was more out of despair rather than out of servility; and she looked great in that see-through dress) and Anastasia is expert manipulator.. but even she was wrong that noone can change the past though.

The thing of note here is that Jealous Witch must be happy he can't control his anger anymore - I bet that's where she wanted to have him - on brink of madness.

The question here is also the real agenda of all these three and who payed those cultists to kill Emilia and get magrave's land out of the way. It seems that only one who would be able to help him in the end is Felt.

Even though I think that in next ressurection he'll try negotiate with everyone using what he had learnt this time.
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I find it rather amazing these candidates are pointing out the flaws in Subaru's approach when their behavior in front of the wise men of the capital was abysmal. They could have certainly used this advice and conduct there, where they displayed themselves in front of all these noblemen and knights. Guess not?

Seriously, this Anastasia girl was all like "oooh, time is money lol don't waste my time" and "I'm a greedy bitch so I wanna rule the nation" (who in their right minds would EVER say this in public? It was an obvious forced introduction to her mentality) and SOMEHOW she has the nerve to tell Subaru off for sucking at negociations and talking to people in general? Not that she isn't right, but this is inconsistent. People complain about Subaru, but this is what's been bothering me most instead. Subaru is being stupid because he's falling into the madness of possessing the power he does and not being able to tell a single soul about it, so I don't mind it as much (but even then, this development's a bit on the awkward side).


They're familiar with the people there. And they don't have what to hide. Their intentions are clear. We can presume that they've a known reputation in the kingdom. (Priscilla called the knight by his name. Crusch called Maicrotof 'old man' and such. Crusch was said to be a Duchess. She's well known, then. Should be the same for the others. Except Emilia and Felt. The others were strong individuals, but the other two weren't.)

Aines445 said:
Somehow, Subaru is a greedy pig for giving up his dignity for help? If it was to save lives, especially of people I find dear, I'd lick anyone's foot any day. There is no greed in morality. I didn't expect him to get help from Priscilla, but I at least expected better reasoning. It was obvious that Subaru wasn't gonna get anyone's help, and as much as I'd be in for getting to know these candidates through that, I don't feel it's that effective. It seemed to be a way to not only show off the fact that Subaru is desperate in his madness, but also that these candidates are not people to be taken lightly. However, I can't help but remind myself of uh, I think it was episode 13? Which didn't prove these people to be actually competent. If it weren't for the insignias, I don't think these people would've ever been considered, at least if I were in charge lol.


Subaru's being greedy as in not wanting to accept himself as incapable. He wants to be the hero. He's prideful. And this sin makes him greedy, too.

Aines445 said:
Episode 15 (and the previous episode, the more I think about it) pulled an Attack on Titan on everything (but somehow worse) by jumping out of every interesting plot line's way as if they were passing trains it shouldn't crash into and deploying its maximum sadism all of a sudden, and now the direction it's taking is far less interesting than I would've hoped. I liked getting to know how everything happened and who did everything for Subaru to die and the resets to happen, but now that we know how it happened (the mansion got attacked; it got frozen because Puck used his powers) and who did it (the witch's cult attacked them), I just kinda want it to end. I'm not sure if the reason for the attack stated by Crusch is the actual reason, so if anything, knowing that would be the only thing I'd look forward to. Oh, and the prospect of maybe seeing and having a good moment with Emilia (if the stars allign, once in a blue moon), because it's like the author doesn't like Emilia or something and keeps having her either not being the focus or not being around. These recent episodes have even been downgrading Subaru's romance with Emilia, so that might as well be true, to be honest.


Eh, Emilia's too busy for Subaru, as a candidate. There was a scene where she had an important conversation, but he couldn't participate. He was supposed to be just a butler. She's not romantically interested in him. Only as a friend...


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Either way, I just hope the anime picks itself up from this and perhaps addresses why the hell the people from the mansion couldn't use the library.


Someone said that Beatrice uses a Magical Door spell, where she enters a different dimension. Someone else opening the door to the library wouldn't be in the same, so they wouldn't find her.
Jul 22, 2016 7:16 PM
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After this episode I just want those other 3 candidates to die, in the order red girl > white girl > Crusch. Emilia is really an angel compared to them.
Nevertheless what they say is true, they don't gain anything from helping Subaru.
Well Subaru can take revenge by not helping them in one of his loop if such opportunity arrives. He's immortal anyway so far.
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Rehls said:

Someone said that Beatrice uses a Magical Door spell, where she enters a different dimension. Someone else opening the door to the library wouldn't be in the same, so they wouldn't find her.

Aines445 said:
Either way, I just hope the anime picks itself up from this and perhaps addresses why the hell the people from the mansion couldn't use the library.

It was explained in the episode where we met Beatrice that the Library is a physical location within the mansion and Beatrice's magic connects the entrance to the Library to a random door of her choosing ex. A bedroom door in a hallway. People from the mansion are not allowed to use the library because Rosewall keeps a plethora of valuable books and magical tomes in there that he want to keep from prying eyes, and Beatrice is a trusted contractor whose job is to protect them.
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His spiraling madness hard to watch. Tho the candidates were mean & disrespectful to him, their insight into his character is quite helpful hope Subaru learns from them, like keeping calm & not running to anger mode all the time. Especially Anastasia patient enough to give him negotiation advice. Iron Fang seems like a fun group.
Misty white whale is here, been waiting so long (not an ln reader). Nice to see grey hair shounen back. Curious about the vanishing bandana dude.
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An excellent episode as always
But at the moment Subaru is too fixated on revenge on the witches cult and not on protecting Emilia.

This episode while not combat heavy was good in that it expanded on the other candidates and showed what their personality's are like. Something that is always good for any anime.

Anastrasia who is played by one of my top 10 seiyuu's is just so cute but at the same time so sly.

The last part of the episode where Subaru see's that creature was so much of a shock though

But i hope that Subaru will just get his priorities straight soon and forget about revenge else he will in it for greed just as Yuka's character said
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Of course no one will help you for free, dear. Subaru doesn't realize yet that he's the only one who knows what will happen: other people cannot understand that, or what you've been through. On top of that, you can't tell them either. If that's not suspicious, I don't know what is.

I was expecting some brutal things during this episode, glad it didn't happen. My heart has been quite shaken those past few weeks with this anime...

That ending ! That cliffhanger ! When he asked where the person next to him went, and they answer that there wasn't anyone there at all...Chills.

Jul 23, 2016 8:22 AM

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AT LAST he know he isn't capable, he can't help emilia alone, it took 15 eps and 2 times death against very powerful enemies before he know that.

Still, i'm with Subaru this eps, he do everything he could, even after being kicked, rejected, deceived, he still sane.
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WTF happened in the end? Was that some kind of illusion? Seems Rem noticed nothing, in fact, she was unnaturaly still near him when the dragon appeared. Of course they may lead them to the tree intentionally, to ambush them. And I wonder what consequence of taking mobile phone out would be.

Anyway, this episode was nice in showing him that they can believe noone. Crusch does only what benefits her (interesting that Subaru now thinks more of those people and Rem than Emilia), Priscilla despises lowly people more than anything (although she was wrong on the reason why he wanted lick her - it was more out of despair rather than out of servility; and she looked great in that see-through dress) and Anastasia is expert manipulator.. but even she was wrong that noone can change the past though.

The thing of note here is that Jealous Witch must be happy he can't control his anger anymore - I bet that's where she wanted to have him - on brink of madness.

The question here is also the real agenda of all these three and who payed those cultists to kill Emilia and get magrave's land out of the way. It seems that only one who would be able to help him in the end is Felt.

Even though I think that in next ressurection he'll try negotiate with everyone using what he had learnt this time.


White whale can erase an entire existance. That man who disappeared doesnt exist anymore. Thats why the merchant guy was like "Who are yo talking about?"
Jul 23, 2016 3:38 PM

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Seems to me the Whale farted bcoz it never saw teenager holding a cellphone before.. LOL
Anyway, where the hell she just pulled a bag of coins from? And if Rem mentioned it in ep 14, doesn't it means the Whale would have farted and blocked the path even without Subaru's interference?
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