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May 5, 2016 2:09 AM
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I often hear a complaint that many questions in this subforum get asked over and over, to the annoyance of people who have been here for more than a week. I'd like to make a list of such questions and their answers. Please use this thread to contribute questions that you feel are frequently asked, or to contribute answers that you feel would satisfy the questioners immediately. Please don't provide answers that will make the questioner want to argue against them immediately - it will defeat the purpose of this thread. Please do provide answers to the questions already answered, and feel free to add to existing answers. I will keep this list updated with your contributions. Maybe the mods will pin the list at the top. If not, you can at least link to it anytime instead of answering. Anime is dying Examples:1 Anime isn't dying, it's transforming or evolving. It might change for the worse or for the better, but there is just no way to meaningfully discuss it on forums, because for most people, their personal experience overshadows any trends that really exist. Your 100th anime will never be as new as your 10th. If you really want to discuss it, get some cold, hard numbers. Is sexual fanservice bad? Examples:1 2 Many people hold strong opinions on this subject, so don't ask anything like that unless you're ready for the fight that will result. As a modern person, you should understand that there are a lot of people who like it, and hence it should exist. Even if you do not personally approve. Kind of like alcohol or violent video games. If you had bad experience with shows that contain sexual fanservice, it's most likely that you were not the target audience in the first place. Shows that are not meant for you often seem bland, offensive, unrelatable or anything else among these lines. Will I be judged if...? Yes, you will be. We are sorry, but a lot of people in this world are likely to judge you badly for a lot of things: color of your skin, gender, choice of a hobby, or anything else. Here on MAL, you can be judged and called bad names for your preferences in anime, for the things you write on forums or any other information we have about you. There is just no way to avoid being judged badly. Even if you lock yourself in your room. Even if you commit suicide. As an adult, you've got to make your own choices, and be ready that not everybody will approve. If you aren't an adult, start with getting disliked on MAL, because we cannot hurt you. You might grow up to become a universally hated dictator one day, better start getting used to it. Am I rating my anime right? Examples:1 2 Different people have different rating patterns, there is no One True Way. It is effectively impossible to make all the MAL users (most of whom don't even visit forums) use the same pattern. We hope that with thousands of raters, it will all somehow even out. How are loli related to pedophilia? Examples: 1.(Old, Locked) 2.(Relatively recent, Locked) 3.(Recent , Open) 4.(Recent, Open) 5.(Recent, Open) Short answer: Some pedophiles like lolis. Most people who like lolis are not pedophiles. We hope all of them aren't molesting real children. This is another question that is likely to generate a heated discussion, but everythign worth saying has been said already. First, the definitions: pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children, exclusively or primarily. That is, given a choice between a hot woman and a cute little girl, a pedophile will prefer a little girl (assuming he/she is attracted to females. Women get to be pedophiles too.). Just like many men have never had sex, many pedophiles have never had sex with children. (There is no way to know accurate statistics) Many sex-starved men would prefer a hot woman, but find a cute girl sexually attractive too (at this point, animals are said to look attractive too). They are not pedophiles. Loli is an anime character that looks like a prepubescent girl, but old enough to not look like a caricature chibi (see Hanamaru Kindergarten for lack of lolis). Some people add that she should be in some way sexualized, while others don't make this distinction. Some people will even use the term for real-life little girls, but for the purposes of this discussion we will ignore them. Note that the term describes their apparent age (how old do they look), not mental age, calendar age, personal time or any other measure. That 300 years old vampire can be a loli too. The term is etymologically related to pedophilia (often called "lolita complex" or lolicon in Japan, similar to Electra Complex and a few other things named by Freud), but we don't care. People who like lolis may be called "lolicons" or "lolicon fans" in the western anime fandom. Now, reasons someone can like lolis without being a pedophile (from the most relevant to least relevant, according to my assumptions): * Lolis embody everything cute, moe and childlike. You can like them the same way you like pets or children, it's called "parental instinct". They make good protagonists for heartwarming stories, that's why a lot of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things shows have their main cast look like lolis even though they are supposed to be in high school. * Some men really like small breasts. Probably for the same reasons as some men like large breasts. They'd prefer a teenage/adult flat-chested, but fully grown woman, but these are in short supply, so they enjoy lolis instead. * Lolis are a lot more attractive than real children. Just like anime girls are a lot more attractive than real girls. Because they are idealized. It is often summed in the saying "3D pig disgusting!". * Those sex-starved men above, if they are anime fans, will like animated little girls no less than IRL little girls. But teenage girls or adult women are still better for them. * Some people will seek out loli hentai for the sole reason that it's forbidden. "Forbidden fruit is sweet" they say. Finally, a pedophile watching loli echhi/hentai anime isn't molesting little girls, at least for now. That's a good thing. We don't know if an anime can turn a man into a pedophile, but it probably can't. Otherwise, psychologists would be curing pedophilia by making pedophiles watch anime with attractive adult women. Definition of lolis: Childlike character with innocent characteristics. May or may not be actually of child age, and very often isn't. We celebrates the awesomeness of lolis. This DOES NOT mean we're pedophiles (a horribly common misconception). It is a sad thing in today's society that loving "children" is automatically linked to pedophilia...but instead here we simply appreciate the beauty of childhood innocence, kinda like Catcher in the Rye. |
flannanMay 5, 2016 7:14 AM
May 5, 2016 2:13 AM
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Eh. How about the am I doing my list wrong, is it too high/too low threads. Also, while this is a noble effort. It kinda ruins some of the liveliness of this subforum. |
May 5, 2016 2:18 AM
#3
Wouldn't it be better if you linked one of those ( a good/old/official one ) threads with each of these questions? And also include the Loli questions too. So everyone can be clear on the fact that loli ≠ pedo |
May 5, 2016 2:55 AM
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You should also do questions about how anime is culturally different to their own thought processes. If you need help, I can think of a few. |
May 5, 2016 3:03 AM
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The_Nico said: You should also do questions about how anime is culturally different to their own thought processes. If you need help, I can think of a few. Do you mean questions like "why the protagonist doesn't have sex with any of the girls?". Yes, please offer some, they will be useful. |
May 5, 2016 3:07 AM
#6
flannan said: The_Nico said: You should also do questions about how anime is culturally different to their own thought processes. If you need help, I can think of a few. Do you mean questions like "why the protagonist doesn't have sex with any of the girls?". Yes, please offer some, they will be useful. Yes... but that's not exactly where I'm getting at. However, that's a good question, seeing that some people here are in fact, very sexually frustrated/aggressive, and that they should not expect sex unless its in hentai; we have a genre for that. I was thinking more or less about Slice-of-Life misconceptions. It's hard for me to phrase questions at the moment since it's late at night here, but I think the SOL genre would warrant quite a lot of things here. You could also talk about sales and the financials of the industry, as those are always often misinterpreted as you should definitely expect cultural differences. The industry to me is the most commonly mistaken interpretation on MAL. But most of the clear cut ignorance on MAL is the amount of SOL threads just completely void of any knowledge of what the genre particularly could mean and entail. |
AqutanMay 5, 2016 3:12 AM
May 5, 2016 3:53 AM
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May 5, 2016 4:11 AM
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_Esper_ said: You dont have to answer the question. You can link the question to the tread. But if you want to answer the question, its fine too. you mean ALL those treads with the same question,now i feel bad for OP |
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May 5, 2016 4:13 AM
#9
Damn, pretty good FAQ in the OP actually. |
May 5, 2016 4:25 AM
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monali said: Not ALL. Probably one of the "hottest" tread that related with the question._Esper_ said: You dont have to answer the question. You can link the question to the tread. But if you want to answer the question, its fine too. you mean ALL those treads with the same question,now i feel bad for OP |
This salad is salty favored |
May 5, 2016 5:09 AM
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_Esper_ said: You dont have to answer the question. You can link the question to the tread. But if you want to answer the question, its fine too. I added some recent threads, but if you can find some older and more epic ones, that would be good. BlueBalls said: Damn, pretty good FAQ in the OP actually. Thank you. |
May 5, 2016 5:13 AM
#12
Might as well add in a little question to your list explaining how the forum search function works on this site. Lots of pictures and cool details. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
May 5, 2016 5:16 AM
#13
Is shounen a genre? No it's a demographic. |
May 5, 2016 5:26 AM
#14
You can also add the Anti-Elitist threads in here as well, and how people have the wrong preconception of the terms Elitist and Casual. Elitist: someone who have seen lots of anime. Casual: someone who have seen a modest number of anime. People who think that they have better taste than you are idiots, because everyone has his own preference in anime. |
May 5, 2016 5:28 AM
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DrGeroCreation said: Is shounen a genre? No it's a demographic. Add shojou/seinen/josei to this. Also making a FAQ for this will probably kill this subforum and I don't want to go to casual discussion to get AIDS. |
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
May 5, 2016 5:38 AM
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Triple-A said: You can also add the Anti-Elitist threads in here as well, and how people have the wrong preconception of the terms Elitist and Casual. Elitist: someone who have seen lots of anime. Casual: someone who have seen a modest number of anime. People who think that they have better taste than you are idiots, because everyone has his own preference in anime. Triple-A said: You can also add the Anti-Elitist threads in here as well, and how people have the wrong preconception of the terms Elitist and Casual. Elitist: someone who have seen lots of anime. Casual: someone who have seen a modest number of anime. People who think that they have better taste than you are idiots, because everyone has his own preference in anime. Pretty sure that's not it. elitist: someone who thinks others taste in anime are shit casual: someone who praises select anime/genre too much |
May 5, 2016 5:39 AM
#17
Why are otakus/weeaboos hated?/Is being one bad? threads and their variations maybe I notice quite a lot of them |
May 5, 2016 5:43 AM
#18
mouvite said: But.. elitist is someone who thinks he's superior and calls others plebs with shit taste. BeBackinaSec said: Pretty sure that's not it. elitist: someone who thinks others taste in anime are shit casual: someone who praises select anime/genre too much That's why I said people always have this wrong preconception of those two terms. |
May 5, 2016 5:48 AM
#19
The FAQ actually isn't bad. Good job, OP. |
May 5, 2016 6:56 AM
#20
@flannan , for some reason I don't think the example given with the loli question goes quite right. Some proper example would be like these: 1. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1895&show=0 [Old, Locked] 2. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1453936&show=0 [Relatively recent, Locked] 3. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1492156&show=0 [Recent , Open] 4. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1505041&show=0 [Recent, Open] And you might want to take that quote from Cyrus here. Also it is nowhere stated that loli lovers here = lolicons. Definition of lolis: Childlike character with innocent characteristics. May or may not be actually of child age, and very often isn't. We celebrates the awesomeness of lolis. This DOES NOT mean we're pedophiles (a horribly common misconception). It is a sad thing in today's society that loving "children" is automatically linked to pedophilia...but instead here we simply appreciate the beauty of childhood innocence, kinda like Catcher in the Rye. |
Z-DanteMay 5, 2016 7:03 AM
May 5, 2016 7:16 AM
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Z-Dante said: @flannan , for some reason I don't think the example given with the loli question goes quite right. Some proper example would be like these: 1. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1895&show=0 [Old, Locked] 2. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1453936&show=0 [Relatively recent, Locked] 3. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1492156&show=0 [Recent , Open] 4. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1505041&show=0 [Recent, Open] And you might want to take that quote from Cyrus here. Also it is nowhere stated that loli lovers here = lolicons. Definition of lolis: Childlike character with innocent characteristics. May or may not be actually of child age, and very often isn't. We celebrates the awesomeness of lolis. This DOES NOT mean we're pedophiles (a horribly common misconception). It is a sad thing in today's society that loving "children" is automatically linked to pedophilia...but instead here we simply appreciate the beauty of childhood innocence, kinda like Catcher in the Rye. Thank you for the links and the quote, I added them. Also I added a note in the definition of lolis that we're talking about apparent age. |
May 5, 2016 7:20 AM
#22
Don't forget to add all them elitist related questions to the list |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
May 5, 2016 8:10 AM
#23
Just an idea I had: You might include a list of definitions of a few common anime terms, such as waifu, otaku, and the various -deres and -cons. Perhaps an explanation of the major genres. I've been watching anime for a couple of years now, and when I came to MAL there were still some terms being used in the community I didn't recognize. Or maybe that should be its own thread. |
May 5, 2016 8:17 AM
#24
Kudos for making efforts to offer solutions. I would like however topics about the industry and financial data to be either linked only or remain in their respective boards. Instead, discussing industry basic terms, trivia, or forum/jargon might be more helpful in this board. For example, the fact that users read manga on-line doesn't make a manga series "a web comic" (unless it is specifically published as a web comic). |
May 5, 2016 8:18 AM
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now if only this can be pinned somewhere on the forums where people can see it so we can stop seeing the same questions asked everyday some of these questions have probably been asked 15+ times in a one month period.. its getting quite annoying lol |
May 5, 2016 8:22 AM
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Z-Dante said: Wouldn't it be better if you linked one of those ( a good/old/official one ) threads with each of these questions? And also include the Loli questions too. So everyone can be clear on the fact that loli ≠ pedo No leave the lolis be. Comic_Sans said: Don't forget to add all them elitist related questions to the list No let the elitists be Holybaptiser said: Might as well add in a little question to your list explaining how the forum search function works on this site. Lots of pictures and cool details. Yes please. Probably increase the font. That might help. That belongs in the suggestions thread imo.. If you ask me all those 'what got you into anime','best OST/OP/ED' & 'what was your first anime?' questions need to go. You can't include that in your FAQ, I don't think.. |
May 5, 2016 8:23 AM
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How about: Does ______ (art/plot/popularity/fan-base)affect your anime rating? Answer: Yes. |
May 5, 2016 8:29 AM
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GesuYarou said: I'm not talking about the elitists themselvesNo let the elitists be I'm talking about the self proclaimed elitist hunters who have been pestering anime discussion for months now Examples: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1464066 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1388123 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481091 |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
May 5, 2016 8:37 AM
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Comic_Sans said: GesuYarou said: I'm not talking about the elitists themselvesNo let the elitists be I'm talking about the self proclaimed elitist hunters who have been pestering anime discussion for months now Examples: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1464066 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1388123 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481091 I'd say the more straight up elitist threads that say stuff like "W++Y AR3 3L!T!STS 5O 5T00P!D?" can be included but the third one was actually pretty okay in my book. But still how are you gonna answer those in an FAQ? "Elitist suck because they have no lives but they need something to feel better about themselves"? I'm not saying that this FAQ shouldn't happen but it faces a whole lot of challenges and it won't be that easy.. |
May 5, 2016 8:44 AM
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This seems well intentioned and all, but I don't think the 'questions' posed so far really need dictated answers. |
May 5, 2016 8:55 AM
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EcchiGodMamsterMay 5, 2016 8:58 AM
May 5, 2016 9:00 AM
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GesuYarou said: Answer "Elitists = not necessarily stupid, some of them are huge douches though" or whatever floats your boatComic_Sans said: GesuYarou said: No let the elitists be I'm talking about the self proclaimed elitist hunters who have been pestering anime discussion for months now Examples: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1464066 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1388123 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481091 I'd say the more straight up elitist threads that say stuff like "W++Y AR3 3L!T!STS 5O 5T00P!D?" can be included but the third one was actually pretty okay in my book. But still how are you gonna answer those in an FAQ? "Elitist suck because they have no lives but they need something to feel better about themselves"? I'm not saying that this FAQ shouldn't happen but it faces a whole lot of challenges and it won't be that easy.. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
May 5, 2016 9:06 AM
#33
Also another concern is that how can you be so sure that new users will always click on this FAQ before posting on AD? I mean you do have that 'Identifying this anime/character' threads but that doesn't stop new users from posting such threads.. |
May 5, 2016 9:23 AM
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kamisama751 said: A suggestion: Show the real definition of "elitist" and "casual". Elitist: Somene who looks down on a certain group of people, is an altitude problem and has nothingg to do with taste or anime at all. Here are some sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism http://www.dictionary.com/browse/elitist http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=elitist http://www.thefreedictionary.com/elitist Casual: carefree, don't do much effort for something sources: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/casual http://www.thefreedictionary.com/casual http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casual Good job, you really defined the term Elitist & Casual. However that's not what I was going for when I said what I said. You see when I defined the term Elitist & Casual I resembled them of a Veteran in anime & a Someone who is relatively new to anime respectively, the reason I did this is because most people in this forum tend to correlate these veterans and their preference of anime with the other so called "Elitist" which may have caused the wrongful use of this term. Though I may have phrased it the wrong way. |
May 5, 2016 9:34 AM
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May 5, 2016 11:12 AM
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So, this isn't a discussion topic, and it's more of a topic that would need to be sticky. I already asked a higher-up mod and they said we can't sticky more threads or the rules and identification thread will be even less visible than they already are (And people still miss these nowadays). Not only this, but if the OP loses interest in this later on, only the mods can edit the OP, and we're busy as it is. For the most things, people can already use the search function. People who create threads that're duplicates obviously never used the search function. I can find topics 100% of the time on topics that people make, yet they tell me the same old story. You're free to make a blog post or use your profile about me for this and use a link in your signature to show it, but we can't allow a thread of it. Thread Locked |
TyrelMay 5, 2016 11:15 AM
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