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Apr 4, 2015 8:32 AM

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OP was awesome!

Apart from the brisk pace, that was pretty sweet. That archer backhand was brutal, Especially since Rin was Moe/10 this Ep. such cute. wow

I felt the betrayal was done pretty well, here's to some more caster next ep.
Apr 4, 2015 8:32 AM

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Perfection. Utter perfection. MUCH better than expected.

5/5 No doubt.
Apr 4, 2015 8:33 AM

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Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)
Apr 4, 2015 8:33 AM

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Amazing, beautiful, sounds amazing, and yes, this may end up as my number one.
ufotable has stolen the heart of every Type-Moon fan and I approve of it.
"The more inexperienced you are, the more you want to show off."
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Apr 4, 2015 8:33 AM

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Still laughing hysterically at Miura deciding to make Shirou stumble on fucking rocks in one of his most badass scenes. What the fuck.

also they REALLY fucked up with Church basement. It is EXACTLY SPELLED OUT IN FATE that it is too small for any bigger confrontation. That looked like a fucking ballroom.
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Uhh doesn't Rin sleep in the cemetery in the VN? Or was that in a building at the cemetery?

Yeah, she does. >_>

That seemed like random fucking park lol.
Apr 4, 2015 8:33 AM

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HeroKenzan said:
Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.
Apr 4, 2015 8:34 AM

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nocorras said:
HeroKenzan said:
Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.


That took me by surprise tbh. But it was a good decision, to show that Archer really did betray Rin.
Apr 4, 2015 8:34 AM

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CookingPriest said:

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Yeah, she does. >_>

That seemed like random fucking park lol.

Yeah but the graveyards a random place to sleep in too. It was unintentional, IIRC.
Apr 4, 2015 8:35 AM

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nocorras said:
HeroKenzan said:
Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.

No. Whole fight was original.

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

Insertanamehere said:
CookingPriest said:


That seemed like random fucking park lol.

Yeah but the graveyards a random place to sleep in too. It was unintentional, IIRC.


Graveyard is safer and less full of people than random fucking park where anyone could stumble upon her.
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CookingPriest said:
nocorras said:


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.

No. Whole fight was original.

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

Insertanamehere said:

Yeah but the graveyards a random place to sleep in too. It was unintentional, IIRC.


Graveyard is safer and less full of people than random fucking park where anyone could stumble upon her.


maybe it won't play out the same.

at this point, who can say? Them breezing through this makes me question how the rest of the time could be spent. Filler, New content, ???

my hype meters are an ever present feeling.
Apr 4, 2015 8:37 AM

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nocorras said:
HeroKenzan said:
Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.
I find that questionable tbh.

Then again it hasn't really hurt the show in any way so whatever.
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CookingPriest said:
nocorras said:


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.

No. Whole fight was original.

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

Insertanamehere said:

Yeah but the graveyards a random place to sleep in too. It was unintentional, IIRC.


Graveyard is safer and less full of people than random fucking park where anyone could stumble upon her.

but isn't Archer watching over her?
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CookingPriest said:

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.
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nocorras said:
HeroKenzan said:
Wow that was fast,maybe a bit too fast?
We get the Graveyard scene oh boi,was the fight original?
The Op is great,like it a lot more than Op 1
I liked this episode will rewatch with subs ofc 4/5 ;)


Archer backhanding and smacking the Grandr was original.

Thanks,it's been a while since the VN so I wasn't quite sure.
Apr 4, 2015 8:38 AM

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Grapekiwi said:
CookingPriest said:

No. Whole fight was original.

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)



Graveyard is safer and less full of people than random fucking park where anyone could stumble upon her.


maybe it won't play out the same.

at this point, who can say? Them breezing through this makes me question how the rest of the time could be spent. Filler, New content, ???

my hype meters are an ever present feeling.


Frankly I expected them to end this episode on Archer betraying them.
This pacing literally means FILLER EPISODES IN SECOND HALF OF COUR.
If they are Shirou focused episodes mant to salvage hischaracter -sure.
If not then what the fuck.
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lol at Fai's BS delusions.


lightly pushing someone = "TYPICAL TSUN VIOLENCE"

Shirou rolling to lighten the impact from the landing (something every free-runner does) = "SHIROU STUMBLING LIKE AN IDIOT"

Back to Back is in some random location instead of graveyard = "MIURA HOW COULD YOU NOT MAKE A 1:1 CABON COPY?!"


Oh, sorry, all of the capsed is "objective", while the actual things are delusions, according to Fai. Just sayin'

Just ignore Fai. Consider this the "burial" of the salt. Rest in Piece, salt.

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This episode was great. It may seem rushed, but I don't think anything of importance in terms of actual scenes is missing here (can't say anything about dialogue yet, need subs for that). It's also good to see that those ridiculous "spoilers" were completely made up. We lost 1 week of time based on fabrications, but w/e, this episode makes it up again!
Apr 4, 2015 8:39 AM

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astroprogs said:
CookingPriest said:

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.

I agree, that backhand was pretty brutal.
Apr 4, 2015 8:39 AM

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That cloak-less Archer in the Ed though, reminded me of Hollow Ataraxia. Instant hype-boner.
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astroprogs said:
CookingPriest said:

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.

Oh come on. Rin gets slapped away by caster, Shirou is shown having troubles projecting, they are surrounded by skeletons

ARcher: Oh I joined you but you have to let them go.

FOr fucks sake.

In VN it was literally

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH


Insertanamehere said:
astroprogs said:

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.

I agree, that backhand was pretty brutal.


It was very clear that Kuizuki's punch would have hurt more -_-
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CookingPriest said:
Grapekiwi said:


maybe it won't play out the same.

at this point, who can say? Them breezing through this makes me question how the rest of the time could be spent. Filler, New content, ???

my hype meters are an ever present feeling.


Frankly I expected them to end this episode on Archer betraying them.
This pacing literally means FILLER EPISODES IN SECOND HALF OF COUR.
If they are Shirou focused episodes mant to salvage hischaracter -sure.
If not then what the fuck.


lol what. Of course they won't be fillers. They'll be more character dev for Rin, Caster, Illya and maybe Shirou.
Apr 4, 2015 8:40 AM
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Well shit, they actually handled Archer's betrayal pretty much perfectly! I'm glad the spoilers for that were fake. No Ever Present Feeling is a small minus, but they still made Rin and Shirou freaking adorable together. The OP and ED are both WAAAY superior to the 1st cour's IMO.

Overall, 5/5 episode, we're in for a great 2nd half if ufotable keeps this quality up.
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WrongPriest said:
That cloak-less Archer in the Ed though, reminded me of Hollow Ataraxia. Instant hype-boner.


Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)
Apr 4, 2015 8:41 AM

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OneTrueEmiya said:
WrongPriest said:
That cloak-less Archer in the Ed though, reminded me of Hollow Ataraxia. Instant hype-boner.


Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)

That outfit got my attention as well, it was GARcher as f***
Apr 4, 2015 8:41 AM

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jmcm30 said:
I'm glad the spoilers for that were fake. .


No they were not.


Barring few details everything down to OP descriptions were exactlylike it happened.
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CookingPriest said:

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH

But...they were about to get rekt there too when Archer asked Caster to let them go.
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Everyone is enjoying teh ep like the best one so far and then there is that one guy.....

Not much to add to what others said.

Well I didnt like the ED song and except from teh archer and ShirouxRin scenes the Ed lacked visuals as well.
Apr 4, 2015 8:42 AM

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damastah said:
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Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)

That outfit got my attention as well, it was GARcher as f***

It's his usual outfit, just sans the shroud.
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astroprogs said:
CookingPriest said:

Which is why Archer's betrayal feels Less brutal because it looks as if he is saving them(he is not)

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.
^ This.

Rin is all confident and smug when Archer comes up but then she gets the backhand of evil to the face.
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Insertanamehere said:
CookingPriest said:

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH

But...they were about to get rekt there too when Archer asked Caster to let them go.

But Archer betrayed them before they were getting rekt indicating he already wanted to betray them even before that.

In this he doe that the moment Rin is about to get rekt. Talk about timing.
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Othi-tan said:
Everyone is enjoying teh ep like the best one so far and then there is that one guy.....

Not much to add to what others said.

Well I dint like the ED song and except from teh archer and ShirouxRin scenes the Ed lacked visuals as well.


Ignore list if you really hate his salt lol. I find it bearable because of the hype around me~
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OneTrueEmiya said:
WrongPriest said:
That cloak-less Archer in the Ed though, reminded me of Hollow Ataraxia. Instant hype-boner.


Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)


hype.

has he used
yet? or does he use that later on / not in this arc?
Apr 4, 2015 8:43 AM

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Oh yeah.

If they had done the Kuzuki vs Shirou in 1 cour more like here then it would be awesome.
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GARcher is so hot that the city is on fire.
Apr 4, 2015 8:44 AM

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Grapekiwi said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)


hype.

has he used **** yet? or does he use that later on / not in this arc?


Nope, Later.
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Grapekiwi said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


Now he just needs to fire Hrunting :)


hype.

has he used
yet? or does he use that later on / not in this arc?

Day 14
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GARBrotato said:
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That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.
^ This.

Rin is all confident and smug when Archer comes up but then she gets the backhand of evil to the face.


What the fuck were you watching?

Rin was being a punching bag to Caster and then Kuizuki was about to blow her head off
Here come Archer.

The whole fight was uneeded and just makes Archer look better because in VN he betrays her WITHOUT ANY REASON TO.

Her eit just looks like he interrupts the Rin about getting owned moment.
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GARBrotato said:
astroprogs said:

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.
^ This.

Rin is all confident and smug when Archer comes up but then she gets the backhand of evil to the face.


This was really shocking even for me, so I say it's a good job.
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CookingPriest said:
astroprogs said:

That's like the exact opposite of what i felt from that scene.

Oh come on. Rin gets slapped away by caster, Shirou is shown having troubles projecting, they are surrounded by skeletons

ARcher: Oh I joined you but you have to let them go.

FOr fucks sake.

In VN it was literally

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH


Really? I got the opposite impression by watching it, and I'm sure a lot of others do too. Your impression doesn't extent to everyone's impression, you know.

...

I don't mind that it's a little rushed or that the ending scene didn't take place in the graveyard, since the scene itself still carries a ton of weight. Though, to be honest, by reading the VN, I got the impression that the confrontation took place in a much smaller room so it was a little uncomfortable seeing the place be so spacious - but eh, visually, this does work better~


Apr 4, 2015 8:46 AM

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Fai does actually have a bit of a point. But I'm not too worried tbh, the scene comes across pretty well regardless.

So you can stop going on about it now.
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CarenPriest said:
CookingPriest said:

Oh come on. Rin gets slapped away by caster, Shirou is shown having troubles projecting, they are surrounded by skeletons

ARcher: Oh I joined you but you have to let them go.

FOr fucks sake.

In VN it was literally

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH


Really? I got the opposite impression by watching it, and I'm sure a lot of others do too. Your impression doesn't extent to everyone's impression, you know.

...

I don't mind that it's a little rushed or that the ending scene didn't take place in the graveyard, since the scene itself still carries a ton of weight. Though, to be honest, by reading the VN, I got the impression that the confrontation took place in a much smaller room so it was a little uncomfortable seeing the place be so spacious - but eh, visually, this does work better~


Pleas edo explain how the hell it could be opposite.
CookingPriest said:
GARBrotato said:
^ This.

Rin is all confident and smug when Archer comes up but then she gets the backhand of evil to the face.


What the fuck were you watching?

Rin was being a punching bag to Caster and then Kuizuki was about to blow her head off
Here come Archer.

The whole fight was uneeded and just makes Archer look better because in VN he betrays her WITHOUT ANY REASON TO.

Her eit just looks like he interrupts the Rin about getting owned moment.
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Insertanamehere said:
CookingPriest said:

Rin and ARcher stAND off against Kuizuki
Rin: Okay let's do something.
ARcher: TROLOLOL, BYE BITCH

But...they were about to get rekt there too when Archer asked Caster to let them go.
Ikr.

Othi-tan said:
Everyone is enjoying teh ep like the best one so far and then there is that one guy.....

Not much to add to what others said.

Well I didnt like the ED song and except from teh archer and ShirouxRin scenes the Ed lacked visuals as well.
OP is definitely way better than the ED.

Though dat one shot of GARcher in the ED is amazing :3

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Archer was quite smart. He intentionally made Rin realize that she has no chance, but also made Caster realize, that Rin is no threat, since Caster is the better Magus. That way it will be easier to say "I feel bad now, please let them go, they are no real threat to you anyway".
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GARBrotato said:
Insertanamehere said:

But...they were about to get rekt there too when Archer asked Caster to let them go.
Ikr.

Othi-tan said:
Everyone is enjoying teh ep like the best one so far and then there is that one guy.....

Not much to add to what others said.

Well I didnt like the ED song and except from teh archer and ShirouxRin scenes the Ed lacked visuals as well.
OP is definitely way better than the ED.

Though dat one shot of GARcher in the ED is amazing :3

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I am dling the raw just for the op.
Apr 4, 2015 8:48 AM

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not really.

Rin expected Archer to cover her, and she was actually rekking Caster (Which shouldn't happen).

to me, the new rendition was a double fuck over of Rin,

first the backhand then the block of her gandr, that literally was like blocking someone in basketball. just lolnope.
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I do agree the betrayal seems 'off' in the anime. I'll have to see the dialog to judge accurately but it does seem like Archer saved Rin from being killed (painting him in a better light)
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I mean....this is a spoiler, isn't it?
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WrongPriest said:
Fai does actually have a bit of a point. But I'm not too worried tbh, the scene comes across pretty well regardless.

So you can stop going on about it now.


I need to say that I DID like the episode and the fights were better and it was pretty much on par with first cour(barring btter choreography), but they yet again continue same mistakes of removing Shirou POV and making Rinlook too good and now we have a slight whitewashing of ARcher's motives.


IT IS NOT AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN

But ARcher comes off ay more of an asshole in VN in that scene bcause he does it for no reason at all. He literally jinxes Rin's chances of doing ANYTHING there before even trying which showcases that he has his own motives and does not give a shit.

In here he is made far more likeable by interrupting Kuizuki about to KILL Rin with a punch(way better outcome) to her and by betraying her when it is very clear that she is about to get owned.

It makes his betrayer ass look way too good.

Also Shirou stumbling on a rock. Fucking seriously?
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nocorras said:
I do agree the betrayal seems 'off' in the anime. I'll have to see the dialog to judge accurately but it does seem like Archer saved Rin from being killed (painting him in a better light)


the point here is if he was actually on her side, he would have saved her. She wasnt in any danger if he didn't betray her.
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nocorras said:
I do agree the betrayal seems 'off' in the anime. I'll have to see the dialog to judge accurately but it does seem like Archer saved Rin from being killed (painting him in a better light)


Is that bad?You know as a
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nocorras said:
I do agree the betrayal seems 'off' in the anime. I'll have to see the dialog to judge accurately but it does seem like Archer saved Rin from being killed (painting him in a better light)


THIS THIS THIS

DO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY
SERIOUSLY
Equate archer's backhand slap
to KUIZUKI's ONE HIT KILL STRENGTHENED PUNCHES THAT REKT SABER?

Grapekiwi said:
nocorras said:
I do agree the betrayal seems 'off' in the anime. I'll have to see the dialog to judge accurately but it does seem like Archer saved Rin from being killed (painting him in a better light)


the point here is if he was actually on her side, he would have saved her. She wasnt in any danger if he didn't betray her.


But it LOOKS like he saved her with his methods.

Also yeah, Rin wank of her surprising Caster is magic is pure BS considering Caster SHOULD dispell anything Rin throws by coughing -_-
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