[b]Comparison of 4K vs Standard HD: [/b][center]4K --- [b]Standard HD: [/b]Personally, I think it's pretty easy to discern the difference in quality between the two. 4K givers off brighter colors, higher resolution...looking at it is like looking at a whole new world. HD however looks rather pixelated, the colors are darker and more drab, and there's no life in it at all. Which do you think looks better? Discuss. |
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| 4K is obviously better But TororuNoKaoJPG said: Idc |
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| 4K probably looks better on a screen that supports it, cause honestly the 4K image looks like complete garbage. What's with the outlines around the shapes? There's artifacts all over the place too. |
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| Do you need to ask? Which is better an A or an B (Grades), 20% or 5$? There is nothing to ask about it, 4k is objectively better. The single reason going for a smaller resolution is file size. In the days of Terrabyte HDDs for a a few bucks its really not an issue. |
Syrup- said: Sharper colors I imagine. The artifacts are annoying, yeah4K probably looks better on a screen that supports it, cause honestly the 4K image looks like complete garbage. What's with the outlines around the shapes? There's artifacts all over the place too. |
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-Taiyou said: honestly if we could make better use of this technology it has potential. But until we get past 255RGB methods it's not going to work.Syrup- said: Sharper colors I imagine. The artifacts are annoying, yeah4K probably looks better on a screen that supports it, cause honestly the 4K image looks like complete garbage. What's with the outlines around the shapes? There's artifacts all over the place too. |
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| gives off brighter colours wtf is this some quad pixel bullshit? |
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| UHD is better but file sizes will be bigger |
| Obviously UHD but it's not that supported in any category. Its time will come but as of right now I can't see the purpose? |
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Syrup- said: We'll just have to wait and see for now. I'm sure that's in the works, but people like Samsung are so thirsty for dat cash cow milk, so it's a matter of time I suppose-Taiyou said: honestly if we could make better use of this technology it has potential. But until we get past 255RGB methods it's not going to work.Sharper colors I imagine. The artifacts are annoying, yeah Nemmie said: Yeah, most likely later in this decade or sometime next decade, it will become more mainstream. Apparently people are trying to record their shit (you know, studios and the like) in 4k, so it really is just a matter of time.Obviously UHD but it's not that supported in any category. Its time will come but as of right now I can't see the purpose? I personally like 4k. Mod edit: Double post merged |
AversaJan 16, 2015 12:48 PM
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-Taiyou said: Nemmie said: Yeah, most likely later in this decade or sometime next decade, it will become more mainstream. Apparently people are trying to record their shit (you know, studios and the like) in 4k, so it really is just a matter of time.Obviously UHD but it's not that supported in any category. Its time will come but as of right now I can't see the purpose? I personally like 4k. I already got a 1440p Monitor, 4k is just one step more. Its not going to take that long. |
| honestly though I wish we had way more colors than we do now. 255 RGB is so limiting (and we have gross banding because of it). We've been stuck with it for more than a decade now too. When will we move on? |
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baki502 said: Seiki apparently sells 4k TVs for super cheap. They're like the cheapest 4k on the market. While it might not compare to the bells and whistles Samsung offers on their line of 4k TV, through Seiki, you'll be getting more bang for your buck.-Taiyou said: Yeah, most likely later in this decade or sometime next decade, it will become more mainstream. Apparently people are trying to record their shit (you know, studios and the like) in 4k, so it really is just a matter of time. I personally like 4k. I already got a 1440p Monitor, 4k is just one step more. Its not going to take that long. I bought a Seiki 4K tv, and watching anime on it is like a dream come true. |
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Syrup- said: When color science evolves I guess, lol. It might not ever happen at all. Again, it's just a mtter of waiting.honestly though I wish we had way more colors than we do now. 255 RGB is so limiting (and we have gross banding because of it). We've been stuck with it for more than a decade now too. When will we move on? |
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| Picture N°1 isn't even 4K, only UHD. Picture N° 2 isn't even Full HD or what is commonly perceived as "HD". Both Pictures aren't the same and depending on how the Effects, Brightness and Motifs are used, you could make an Image look more appealing, even when having less Pixels. In other Words: both manipulated Pictures have been deliberately chosen to give the Impression that much more Pixels are that much better. I don't even need 720P "HD-Ready" for my Anime, so I don't really care about 4K. But I'll eventually buy one when they'll get in the Price Spectrum of normal, Full HD Monitors and I'll need one, because my old one got broken or something. |
NoboruJan 15, 2015 4:47 PM
Noboru said: 4k and UHD are the same thing for the record.Picture N°1 isn't even 4K, only UHD. Picture N° 2 isn't even Full HD or what is commonly perceived as "HD". Yes it is. Anything between 720 and 1080 is HD, at least in my book.Both Pictures aren't the same and depending on how the Effects, Brightness and Motifs are used, you could make an Image look more appealing, even when having less Pixels. In other Words: both manipulated Pictures have been deliberately chosen to give the Impression that much more Pixels are that much better. Prove it. |
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-Taiyou said: We have the colors for it, and we know almost everything there is to know about optical perception of light. The reason we haven't moved forward is probably because people are too comfortable with 32bit color. We literally have to just light up the screen in more fractions to get more colors. It's ezpzSyrup- said: When color science evolves I guess, lol. It might not ever happen at all. Again, it's just a mtter of waiting.honestly though I wish we had way more colors than we do now. 255 RGB is so limiting (and we have gross banding because of it). We've been stuck with it for more than a decade now too. When will we move on? or you know, maybe I'm just a pseudo-scientist and I should get a PHD before I start spouting bullshit. edit: -Taiyou said: Noboru said: Prove it.Both Pictures aren't the same and depending on how the Effects, Brightness and Motifs are used, you could make an Image look more appealing, even when having less Pixels. In other Words: both manipulated Pictures have been deliberately chosen to give the Impression that much more Pixels are that much better. what is dithering? |
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| Isn't it possible to get 24 bit color, which is more high res? And I know what dithering is, I just don't believe that that's why these pictures look so good. |
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-Taiyou said: 24 bit color is even less colors dude (16,777,216 as opposed to over a billion) so I think you're getting it confused with dpi/mega pixels maybe?Isn't it possible to get 24 bit color, which is more high res? And I know what dithering is, I just don't believe that that's why these pictures look so good. also both those samples didn't look that great to me tbh. |
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| Mmm, I see. I'll edit the OP later. If they still look bad, I'll concede, though I was just going to do that anyway. I probably am mixing up dpi with color bits lol. So I suppose 48bit is better then, huh? |
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| That and I switched the cables with my 4K cable for my computer, and yeah, that sample looks like shit lol, even with the right output. |
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-Taiyou said: Yeah that also has a lot to do with it. I'm converting DVI to VGA, and it's a CRT monitor so it would never ever be able to see it the same way a 4K monitor sees it. poor life is real. I swear a 4K monitor is the first thing I will buy when I get a job lolThat and I switched the cables with my 4K cable for my computer, and yeah, that sample looks like shit lol, even with the right output. |
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| 4K monitors are the best so you'll deffo enjoy it. You might want to get a Seiki U Vision cable as well (just in case). It upscales 1080p to 4K, under the right circumstances. I'm probs gonna change my graphics card in my computer to one that can support 4K that doesn't need to be 30Hz along with the cable I mentioned, so we'll see. |
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| Heads up: OP has been edited with (hopefully) better samples |
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| I'll stick to my vector displays. |
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| 4K or 4K2K or 4096 x 2160/2304 Pixels (depending on the Format 19:10 or 16:9) isn't the same as Ultra HD or Quad Full HD or 3840 x 2160 Pixels (= 2*1920*2*1080=4*1920X1080). "4K" means at least a horizontal Resolution of 4000 Pixels and the Cinema Standard is 4096x2160P while in a 16:9 Format it would be 4096x2304P. I can't see the 2nd Picture. Also, when you make a Comparison, you should make sure to use the same Motif with the same Camera Settings and not purposely a bright and colorful Picture as one Example and a dull and monotonous Picture as another, because you can do the same the other way around: 4K 16:9 Full HD |
NoboruJan 16, 2015 8:46 AM
| das da same image mane |
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| 4k is better but it is very limited |
| @SubaTonic: SSDs are already established and in a affordable enough Price Range to get at least Windows+Programs on it. Newer Laptops mostly have either one or some Sort of SSD Cache included. Booting from a HDD without even having a SSD Cache is so like 1980-2010. It's possible to get over 100 fps in Games, even with Middle Class Setups, however, you'll most likely need to tone down Graphic Details/Effects as well as Anti-Aliasing and you'll probably need to overclock it a little bit. Naturally, if you want Ultra Settings on demanding Games with over 100 fps, you need to have a more costly high-end Setup you've described. |
SubaTonic said: It's better to get shut down than to say nothing at all man. It provides answers to misconceptions that people might have.Was waiting for an even bigger nerd than me to come and correct every single thing like always. I should really just shut the fuck up and drink myself shitfaced instead...Anyway, I guess I'm "so 2010" because all I have is my 1TB mechanical and it does everything fast enough for my liking. we luv u don't stop posting ;_; |
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SubaTonic said: If that is your desire you can become anything you want. Even an alcoholic. What I mean is if you wanna go catch up and become savvy again, it's your decision to make.Booze is already out. Y'know, it gets pretty disconcerting to realize, time and time again, that every single debate or argument you get into just makes you look like a fucking retard. I used to be the most tech savvy person I knew, but the world's gone and passed me by while I dropped out of high school and sat here in fucking stasis for eight years. I don't know anything anymore and I should stop pretending I do. Bottoms up. but yeee bottoms up o/ |
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SubaTonic said: you're stuck in a problem only where only actions matter dude. Go get your highschool. It's never too late. Knowledge isn't going to do me any good anymore. dude there's like 50yo people at the school I'm going to for dropouts and they're getting their highschool. Fuck man pull yourself together before you get to be 50 and sad like them |
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SubaTonic said: Was waiting for an even bigger nerd than me to come and correct every single thing like always. I should really just shut the fuck up and drink myself shitfaced instead...Anyway, I guess I'm "so 2010" because all I have is my 1TB mechanical and it does everything fast enough for my liking. Ah common! Please don't get sad over every little Thing... >> I don't even consider myself as a "nerd" or even someone with that much Knowledge with Computers; I'm only someone who is a little bit interested in this Stuff and all I know about it is what I picked up from Experiences and computer-related Articles and Discussions. It's also ok to be content with only having a HDD and it was only a bit of an Exaggeration. Truth is, with Windows 8/8.1 you can get decent enough Boot Times due to the Fast Boot (short Explanation and how to turn it off/back on) or if you just put your Device in Sleep Mode/Hibernation. But when you have the Money to buy an additional, external HDD for more Storage and/or as an additional Backup, you'll have the Money to get at least a decent 120GB SSD, which would be sufficient for your OS and most - if not all - Programs. And when you've once used a SSD, you'll most likely never want to put up with a HDD again. |
| I can watch 720 and never once think "I wish this was in higher resolution". You're limited by your screen, eyes, not watching in pitch black silence, and the fact you're usually getting too involved with the storyline and things to be picking out the minute details in frames. Adjust the colour settings on your tv for more colour :P Unless you're made of money and fancy scoffing at the proles with their quaint Blu Rays. damn technology makes me mad sometimes |
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| if we're talking about files in hard disk, then HD is better, and here's why: 1. the difference in quality is not noticeable unless you have a 4K monitor, and even then, HD files look good enough in most cases. 2. 4K resolution is irrelevant when watching anime, which are usually made in ~720p resolution anyway very few anime are even made in ~1080p (and none made in 4K) 3. UHD have better resolution, but at the cost of humongous file size. A video that is 1GB or less in 720p could be 100gb+ in 4K resolution |
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