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| Boring as fuck, I found 0 interest in anything that was going on and found myself dozing off. I'll give this another episode, but I doubt it'll do it any justice. |
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| I feel like this anime feels so much like it's doing too much. "This happens therefore A happens. His life isn't cool enough yet so now let's make him get molested"! That's what I'm getting from this. I didn't like it, so I'm hoping it picks up. Alot better than watching Kampfer though. A fansubber named Kiri told me he got halfway through translating this and gave up. Apparently it was too hard to translate. Now he's one of the other assholes translating Sora no Ototootototot. |
ArtRodriguezOct 21, 2009 9:09 PM
evanc88 said: francismeunier said: evanc88 said: They're six individual stories from different authors. I think this one will end at episode 4, and the next story will be Kokoro--a much more laid back and peaceful tale, by the first master of modern Japanese literature, Natsume Soseki. It's amazing, seriously. At the end, he failed to kill himself but the woman died. You'll see next episode what effect that has on him, I assume. Those women were not his siblings, as previously discussed here. About the story being confusing, there are two things to note. First, no it isn't, and the dialogue isn't made to be profound, it's made to accent the characters emotions. This can, admittedly, be difficult in an anime, but that leads me to my second point; this anime is based off of the second most sold book in Japan, behind only Kokoro, the next story in the cycle. A lot of people watching this there know this story by heart, celebrate Dazai's life on the anniversary of his suicide, and know the time period far better than Western people do. Keep in mind that this is made for a Japanese audience, not us watching fansubs. Yes, it takes place in modern Japan. It says the fourth year of the Showa era at the beginning of the show. That means 1930. Interesting post, so people were at that time not happy with the goverment so there was a Tokko (political police) to calm down revolutions and also a problem of prostitutes. This lead to major suicides. I do want to ask you if Youzou was abused as a kid? No one answered me on this one. Were all these women playing with his privates or were they exposing themselves to him? I got some mix feelings that it is a yes but not sure. They also say that Youzou liked books but his father though it was not right for him at this age? What is up with this whole lion mask thing other than festival purpose? evanc88 said: Yeah, the Tokko during this time were mainly there to suppress, as much as possible, anyone's involvement in the Communist party, just like in the show. Ok, interesting. Were they brutal like it shows by clubing people or some just killed some of these protestors? evanc88 said: Also, yes, he was raped. It's hard to appreciate the scene, really, because the anime give so little a look into the head of the boy. In the anime, you see him sort of smiling dumbly. In the novel, you understand he smiles dumbly out of what he calls "weakness," though he recognizes what they were doing was extremely horrible. Oh why did they abuse him sexually? What is so fun having these desires with a kid? What does the novel say exactly about this? You can PM if it is not right to say it here. evanc88 said: The books vs lion mask thing was confusing. In the novel, it isn't that he wants books but doesn't want to disappoint his father--he doesn't care about either one. He's completely apathetic, and only chooses one because he thinks that choosing is what human beings are supposed to do. Even as a child, he was mocking human beings, imitating them while realizing their absurdity. He wanted neither thing, but felt a "normal" human would choose one of them. Since he was a kid, he went for the mask. Weird, yeah, but it's supposed to highlight the fact that the main character is just completely empty. He literally does not understand what it means to be human. Feeling all of this at a young age, he grew up into the man he is in the show... sort of. Ah ok, interesting psychology. Youzou has some interesting thinking. evanc88 said: It's not a completely faithful adaptation, but it isn't bad. You see his apathy when he spaces out at the political rally, or when he's talking to the woman. Yeah, noticed it a little now that you mention it. evanc88 said: A note about the suicide, though: in the book, they both jumped at the same time. He didn't push her, or go after her. They both jumped together, and he just happened to live. That would have been better to show but I thank you for telling the change. I would not know without people like you knowing more. Thanks again. |
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evanc88 said: confuser987 said: I assume. Those women were not his siblings, as previously discussed here. i guess they were the maids...who were given the responsibilty to take care of him..that was sort of disturbing.... u seem to hve read the book....i want to too... |
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| Eh, I found the story too drawn out. They could've done it in half the time, but I guess it wouldn't have had the same effect. Next episode seems interesting, though. That is, if they continues from episode 1, or will it be a new story each time? |
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| That was great in every way possible. Loved it. |
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| I found this episode very promising. T least something different after all those colourful ecchi's.. |
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| Hum... Well, i don't like it cuz i guess it's just not my type of anime bu i'll keep it up a little. But i can tell that for people who like this kindof stuff, it's really good quality anime. As for me, I dun appreciate much |
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| complicated but great :3 |
| Was he raped as a child? |
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| Story was great, character designs? Not so much. I'll stick with it, can't wait for Kubo's characters who will all be wearing extremely fashionable clothing. |
| Not too bad :) |
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| Ah huh....Not sure what to think yet. |
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| where those chicks molesting the child version of the main character? No wonder he finds women so confusing haha. |
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DeathfireD said: So there are women pedophile gangs as well? Somehow doesn't seem as serious as opposite gender.where those chicks molesting the child version of the main character? No wonder he finds women so confusing haha. |
| ... Even if I took time to write alot of intelligent words of deep thought and meaning in my signature, would you really care to read and comment on it? ... |
| For most guys, imagining five (attractive looking, going on what was shown) older women 'raping' them is a wet dream. I'm sure it's different for those who've gone through such experiences, and it's easy to see why such an experience would make the lead think so little of women, but an adult male viewing what happened as a bad thing when the child in question had a 'spaced out' with a grin on his face... it's difficult. ...Of course, our society is one of double standards: If a male teacher has sex with a female student, he's evil. If a female teacher has sex with a female student, it's hot. If an attractive woman rapes a guy, he's lucky. If a guy rapes a woman, it's an act of evil. Etc, etc. That's just the way people roll. |
| The smile on his face wasn't out of enjoyment. He was taught at an early age that he should smile to gain appreciation from his family and friends (ie. "Be a good boy and smile, keep smiling, don't stop"). He looked to be about 5 or 6 in that part. I'm sure having a group of older women all touching your private area and giggling isn't the best feeling in the world for a kid that barley understands his own body. I'm sure he's looking back on it now and is feeling used and angry. |
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| Manga artists Takeshi Obata (Death Note), Takeshi Konomi (Prince of Tennis), and Tite Kubo (Bleach) will be involved with the production. Pretty credible artists there. |
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DeathfireD said: The smile on his face wasn't out of enjoyment. He was taught at an early age that he should smile to gain appreciation from his family and friends (ie. "Be a good boy and smile, keep smiling, don't stop"). He looked to be about 5 or 6 in that part. I'm sure having a group of older women all touching your private area and giggling isn't the best feeling in the world for a kid that barley understands his own body. I'm sure he's looking back on it now and is feeling used and angry. I'm not disagreeing that it was wrong and that it would've disturbed him. I added "spaced out" before smile in my previous post to highlight that I wasn't saying his smile was true - more like he wasn't 'there' in his head, having zoned out in order to block out the bad experience. I simply wanted to point out that a lot of males wouldn't understand how terrible something like that would be because of how a guy is usually perceived to be lucky in such a situation. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Aionic said: DeathfireD said: The smile on his face wasn't out of enjoyment. He was taught at an early age that he should smile to gain appreciation from his family and friends (ie. "Be a good boy and smile, keep smiling, don't stop"). He looked to be about 5 or 6 in that part. I'm sure having a group of older women all touching your private area and giggling isn't the best feeling in the world for a kid that barley understands his own body. I'm sure he's looking back on it now and is feeling used and angry. I'm not disagreeing that it was wrong and that it would've disturbed him. I added "spaced out" before smile in my previous post to highlight that I wasn't saying his smile was true - more like he wasn't 'there' in his head, having zoned out in order to block out the bad experience. I simply wanted to point out that a lot of males wouldn't understand how terrible something like that would be because of how a guy is usually perceived to be lucky in such a situation. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why I didn't quote your comment :). My post was a general post directed at everyone. But your right, in our time period people look at things like this as lucky but when it happens to a girl it's disgusting. yay for double standards. |
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| This anime is awesome :) main character feels death note ish which is good and tite kubo is in on this anime as well :D messed up episode with the kid being malested and all when he was young >.< |
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| Wow, that was disturbing. |
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to-en said: I really wish I was able to enjoy this crap. 11 minutes into episode one I was so bored I went here to check out other people's reactions. Maybe I'm just shallow, but it seems to me that whenever people sees an anime that tries to be just a little deep, they instantly orgasm like crazy over it. At least to me, for an anime to be good it has to be either interesting or entertaining. This was neither. It wasn't even shocking. Another bad show this season. I agree with you. I love novels, especially psychological ones like this one seems it should be, but when they try to put a novel like that into a show, it should explain more so it's halfway decent to follow. Odds are I'll pick up the actual book, but I'm not continuing with the anime past the first episode. |
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| Heaven in twenty-four minutes of animation. |
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| Brilliant. Depressing, but brilliant. |
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| The art was amazing^^ Artists are Takeshi, Tite and Konomi after all, of course it was great :D :D I loved it. And Youzo's voice amazed me *-* Woaa genius.+_+ |
| I am pretty sure this bastard didn't jump. Can you say that she killed herself if he pushed her? Did he push her? She was facing him when she fell. |
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| Definitely what I was looking for, this episode was absolutely epic. I'm just a little bit disappointed by the chara design, it was a little bit too generic and I expected something really original from Kubo to contributes to this horrorifying and mature atmosphere. |
HooHiraiBunny said: Definitely what I was looking for, this episode was absolutely epic. I'm just a little bit disappointed by the chara design, it was a little bit too generic and I expected something really original from Kubo to contributes to this horrorifying and mature atmosphere. The first arc's chara design was done by Takeshi Obata, Kubo Tite wasn't involved. |
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taterhead said: I see.The first arc's chara design was done by Takeshi Obata, Kubo Tite wasn't involved. |
evanc88 said: A note about the suicide, though: in the book, they both jumped at the same time. He didn't push her, or go after her. They both jumped together, and he just happened to live. Retroblah said: His confusion in the novel was evident on what he thought that he should choose, not on what he'd prefer. I don't think the anime did that part well. Yozo looked confused, but for a different reason. He looked confused as if he was thinking, "A lion mask? Really?". In the novel, you'd imagine him staring at his father, with a completely straight face. Maybe even with one of those clownish grins of his. For those who are curious, here's some of it; Whenever I was asked what I wanted my first impulse was to answer "nothing". The thought went through my mind that it didn't make any difference, that nothing was going to make me happy. At the same time I was congenitally unable to refuse anything offered to me by another person, no matter how little it might suit my taste. When I hated something, I could not produced the words, "I don't like it." WHen I liked something I tasted it hesitantly, furtively, as though it was extremely bitter. In either case I was torn by unspeakable fear. In other words, I hadn't the strength to choose between the two alternatives. Though I enjoyed the episode, this kind of extra detail is making me wish I had read the novel first instead (b/c sadly, I haven't.) :( Still, I quite liked the darker, more serious atmosphere of this and I'm interested to see what's to come. |
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| Oh my, this episode was absolutely incredible. I just loved that art and the creepy and dark atmosphere that covered the entire episode. Events happened so fast that it looked like I was in a roller coaster. :3 Okay so that rich artist-wannabe guy looked like Light from Death Note. Heck he acted like Light to. Also, I loved that slut girl. She was hot, but I believe that she wasn't his real sister. She was just pretending so that the guy on the other side would stop pursuing her. The sex scene sure was awesome. In the end, the girl died and he didn't. Does that mean she'll hunt that guy down because they were suppose to die together? Also, I wonder who was the husband of the slut girl. I'll be laughing if it's a relative of that artist guy, lol. Also in his memories, they showed the slut girl inside a closet like a ghost. I think she'll become a ghost, lol. |
| Wow, this series is deep. Freaky but deep. The animation was amazing and I bet my life it's the Death Note guy. I've rarely been so captured by the intensity of one episode. This was something. But yeah, that 3D guy at the beginning is annoying. Though his pieces of information are very interesting. |
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| Jumping off a cliff is the last suicide option for me. Good series, I'm going to keep watching. |
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| Definitely outstanding. |
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| Brilliant first episode. 5/5 |
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| Great episode i had no idea that guy who drew death Note drew the character for the first episode. And kubo Tite from bleach drew 4-6. You can actually see the resemblance and style. |
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| Extremely weird. That's what made this great. I'll keep watching. |
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| It's good. I've watched so many depressing stories that I can't comment about originality and such (this is a classic piece anyway,) but the presentation is very fluid. The narrator - You's seiyuu - has a very realistically calm voice though, but somehow it reminds me of an old man... nice. Now patiently waiting for the rest to arrive... |
| Great first episode.I'll definitely keep watching. |
| It's interesting I'll give it that much |
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