88% of One Piece Readers Are Adults

Feb 9, 2011 6:33 PM

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Detective said:

Nidhoeggr said:

Detective said:

I don't have any statistics to support my data, but I hear things like "My anime is infallibly great on all accounts" much more frequently when it comes to One Piece than nearly any other anime/manga (with the exception of maybe Fullmetal Alchemist which is it's own separate fanbase shenanigans). I don't try to say my anime is superior to x, but a fair amount of people who read/watch One Piece that I've encountered online (especially websites like MAL and 4chan's /a/) and offline will start a thread or discussion by saying "Hell this is better than anything else am I right or am I right?!" and I think it occurs so very often when talking to a OP fan that it's become the defining characteristic in OP fans. I know quite a few OP fans who don't do this, but still the amount of people who feel the need to exert their opinion on why OP is the best anime EVAR outweighs the opposite faction and comments that perpetuate these mindless "OP IS THE BEST" "NO OP IS THE WORST" discussions ought to be hit in the head.

If you're talking about people who slam it without even reading it or watching it then completely disregard what they're saying as they are most likely trolls, but people like Metroid made it clear that they have read the manga and hold a substantial knowledge on it shouldn't have to be subjected to such inane "well no actually you're opinion is wrong" treatment. My point was that One Piece fans are often quite narrow minded by generality, and I really wish that that view would be removed because such users like yourself, Metroid, myself and so on don't deserve to be grouped with them.

tl;dr moral of the story is just mind what you say because saying stupid things makes you and other fans look bad (here's to you, Tomah) when it's unnecessary

As expected of a Code Geass fanboy, the whoile fanbase consists of people who like shitty generic mecha with senseless plottwists. Seriously why are even on MAL? Go back to your shitty fanforum.

/sarcasm.

See, I, too, can oversimplify statements to prove my argument.
I have my own thoughts about this matter, but it's really here so I'll make it short. We can continue per Pm if you like, anyway.

One Piece is a very decent Shounen, one could even say that it is one of the best current running Shounen in Weekly Shounen Jump. That doesn't imply that there aren't better Shounen in other magazines, nor that it is the saviour of all manga of all time forever like some douchebags seem to believe.
It is however something I would call "baby's first good manga": One of those mangas where a relative new manga reader is sucked in and - naturally - thinks it's the best damn thing on the whole world for a certain amount of time. Remember when you discovered your first "real" band? Boy, you sure thought that there were no better musicians, right?
But after a while you discover that there are other, great musicians/manga out there and that your manga/band, while being extremly good/special in a certain genre does not equivalent being "teh best!111eleven" in generel. Such a term is utopian by nature.

The problem is that, like every other genre/media/book series/whatever, the vocal minority represents the mayor published opinion. Just like with newspapers, a small group of individuals encompassing the whole spectre of opinions on a certain theme - or at least the percepted spectre of the average reader. Each good series/manga has it. We have rabid Berserk fanboys, Baccano fanatics, not to mention the FMA or HxH crowd. However, OP dwarfs those in numbers so it's obvious that you will hear from them much more than say, your average Miura fanatic. Add to this the following facts:

- a bad localized dub (4kids) led to a large amount of prejudice on both sides of the discussion about the childish aspects of the series and - ultimately - the sries itself
- the great success of One Piece in Japan as well as parts of Asia and Europe (Scandinavia, Germany, France) provide a themirror through internet, further fortifying existing problems
- One Piece has, unlike other anime, a rather western and slow exposition while using Vonnegut’s 8 Rules For Writing in different, yet very effective ways
- most people who actually read manga in the west are rather young and have an entirely different conception of what manga/comics in general are about than the Japanese
- the problems I mentioned in my post above this one (and yours)

And you got a rough sketch of the dormant problems of this argument.
Also: /a/ is pretty cool about One Piece as it shares a lot of characteristics with other fanbases and is generally accepted there (Nice example for a thread I found today: http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/45762972), while MAL is..well...MAL.

Spoiler'd for justice.

I don't really disagree with you on anything you say. That thread you linked though just showed the two extreme's again, HATERS HATING and One Piece fans simply running into the thread, yelling TOLD YA SO, and then leaving. That thread, luckily, showed a third party for a little bit in the middle though, but towards the end became more of a "NAMI IS SO HAWT / ODA IS GOD" thread. The manga has matured along with it's readers needless to say, but One Piece still strongly remains a shonen manga with often cliche shonen elements (fight bad guys until you win, NAKAMA, power ups, training arcs, etc), and that's not bad, but it isn't a seinen. Even if everyone who read it were sixty five years old, One Piece is a shonen through and through. The age of the people who read One Piece has little to nothing to do with the content of One Piece.

It's just that now that this statistic exists, it will be repeatedly abused and shoved in peoples faces as the single most powerful reason as to why OP isn't for children ergo isn't bad ergo is good ergo is better than X ergo is the best. I understand that there are a large amount of One Piece fans (and that many western ones are very young) but it's that you often receive snarky, rude, or trite responses from those whom you disagree with on One Piece. This goes out to the haters too, which are usually just as bad.

I guess I'm just sick of the arrogance of the fanbase. I know other fanbases suffer from the same exact problem, but all I meant with my posts was that One Piece seemingly has the fanboy-elitist as it's number one groupee, which ends up making the anime/manga itself look bad for having such obnoxious readers.

So we agree that vocal minorityequals the mayor published opinion?
Anyway, I never said that OP was a Seinen, it's still published in WSJ after all. However, reducing Shounen to the fighting trope isn't good either. We have all kinds of very mature manga who are classified as Shounen. Deadman Wonderland, Yotsuba&, Hokuto No Ken, etc. don't fit the modern definition of Shounen as in "fighting adeventure manga" most people seem to conceptualize in their heads right now, yet they still are Shounen.

However, this chart and several other charts that surfaced on the topic of One Piece demographics allow us to analyze the fandom of a series more than we could have ever hoped (and wanted?) for - with all the pros and cons of it. To me, it represents the fact that youc an enjoy OP regardless of age. Nothing more, and nothing less. If that is a criteria for a good manga, that's up to your personal opinion.

P.S.:
On the /a/ thread: Of course it would degrade into spam at th end/the beginning. After all, trolls and fanboys are the only ones with enough dedication to stay through this til the very end.
I also had a very nice conversation about the different arcs of OP a few days ago there, turns out that some anons are strongly supporting the Alabasta/Skypeia writing-style and are pretty reluctant towards the whole war. It was very interesting. I never get those kind of conversations on normal forums, though. Well, most normal forums are hosting hordes of kids anyway.

NidhoeggrFeb 9, 2011 6:52 PM

Steel Ball Run anime when?

Feb 9, 2011 6:51 PM

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This makes sense. It explains why OP always tops the sales. The buying power of adults >>> buying power of children and teenagers

bla bla bla

The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.

Niko-kun said:
On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?

Feb 9, 2011 6:54 PM

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wakka9ca said:
This makes sense. It explains why OP always tops the sales. The buying power of adults >>> buying power of children and teenagers

I beg to differ. It's Japan we are talking about, the culture of reading comics/manga is entirely different and is certainly not a good object for over-simplifications. There are also statistics of Top 10 Manga through various age groups showing that all kinds of manga can be popular. Blaming it on the demographic alone is biased reasoning.

Steel Ball Run anime when?

Feb 9, 2011 6:56 PM

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Pretty sad since the fan base can at times act quite childish when defending their series.

Feb 9, 2011 7:04 PM

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cjkira99 said:
Pretty sad since the fan base can at times act quite childish when defending their series.

Please read the past few pages before dropping of such an oversimplyfied comment. That takes us back to the beginning of the discussion, which is a shame as it provided zero ground for a reasonable understanding of the problem.

Let us not forget that this is a Japanese statistic.

Steel Ball Run anime when?

Feb 9, 2011 7:49 PM

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Im not really surprized by this results.

I started reading manga few years ago and I prefer mostly seinen manga but for some "wierd" reason One Piece is one of my favorite manga, although its considered by many ppl as a generic shounen series but It got that seinen feel to me. It really stands out from every shounen I've read so far .

One Piece started as a decent but not great series but is consistently getting better and better over time while most shounen series start good/great and with time just getting worse or in some cases just turn into pile of shit .. for example Bleach.

Feb 9, 2011 8:30 PM

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Detective said:
Once again One Piece fans prove themselves snobbish elitists unwilling to consider a different opinion. If you like One Piece, chill no one cares, if you don't INTERNET HATE MACHINE. Seriously.

I like One Piece very much, but statements like TRY TO CALL MY ANIME FOR KIDS NOW are just plain stupid. One Piece will forever be a shonen and never a seinen. No matter what you argue, that's the goddamn genre it is.

Assumptions are bad.

I haven't ever read One Piece and have only seen the first episode.

desolatoFeb 10, 2011 4:21 AM

Feb 9, 2011 9:20 PM

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B-chan911 said:
Wow, that's really surprising. I always thought One Piece attracted more kids than adults...

It does, but the kids that started watching it whenever it came out still keep up with it. Just over a decade has passed. :-)

Feb 9, 2011 11:33 PM

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Oh wow, I didn't expect that. I've always thought that most OP readers were teenagers.

Feb 9, 2011 11:55 PM

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I'm not surprised, a lot of the shows that come out these days are garbage. do a survey on Naruto, It'll be the opposite obviously, kids under the age of 13 would dominate, anyone older is just simply retarded. Naruto is shit.

Feb 10, 2011 12:02 AM

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ShaunG said:
Not surprising, every person who've kept reading one piece from the start in his teenage days, is now 12 years older...

That explains alot

Feb 10, 2011 12:11 AM

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This is both surprising and expected; I didn't think there's so many older fans (I mean 50+ people). 12% for younger than 18 makes sense though, they aren't interested in catching up with old manga/anime with so many chapters/episodes.

Feb 10, 2011 12:45 AM

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Detective said:
but One Piece still strongly remains a shonen manga with often cliche shonen elements (fight bad guys until you win, NAKAMA, power ups, training arcs, etc)

this just shows how ignorant some bitches are and how Trolls are born..

on ALL entire 600 chapters only ONE training arc was ( and that also skipped)
only 2 powerups ( not like bleach, over 5 or 6 i dont even remember )
and the NAKAMA thing was only at the beginning..

so stop trolling and stop provoking us..

i dont even understand why little kids who DIDNT even read the show are writing stuff on forums?
ugh

Feb 10, 2011 1:13 AM

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Detective said:

I don't have any statistics to support my data, but I hear things like "My anime is infallibly great on all accounts" much more frequently when it comes to One Piece than nearly any other anime/manga (with the exception of maybe Fullmetal Alchemist which is it's own separate fanbase shenanigans). I don't try to say my anime is superior to x, but a fair amount of people who read/watch One Piece that I've encountered online (especially websites like MAL and 4chan's /a/) and offline will start a thread or discussion by saying "Hell this is better than anything else am I right or am I right?!" and I think it occurs so very often when talking to a OP fan that it's become the defining characteristic in OP fans. I know quite a few OP fans who don't do this, but still the amount of people who feel the need to exert their opinion on why OP is the best anime EVAR outweighs the opposite faction and comments that perpetuate these mindless "OP IS THE BEST" "NO OP IS THE WORST" discussions ought to be deleted or better yet not even said.

If you're talking about people who slam it without even reading it or watching it then completely disregard what they're saying as they are most likely trolls, but people like Metroid who have made it clear that they have read the manga and hold a substantial knowledge on it shouldn't have to be subjected to such inane "well no actually your opinion is wrong" treatment. My point was that One Piece fans are often quite narrow minded by generality, and I really wish that that view would be removed because of such users like yourself, Metroid, myself, and many others and so on who don't do this don't deserve to be grouped with those who do.

tl;dr moral of the story is just mind what you say because saying stupid things makes you and other fans look bad (here's to you, Tomah) when it's unnecessary

Hang in there partner, no need for personal offenses since we are just talking about opinions, you know? I consider One Piece to be the most overrated manga in history, so don't go judging others like this based on a statement. If you've got a trouble with it, do like any civilized person and show your arguments. If you haven't read my other post, it is obvious that One Piece is aimed at younger audiences, but that doesn't prevent adults from enjoying. So saying that One Piece is limited to children is also being narrow-minded.

Feb 10, 2011 1:25 AM

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Well that's to be expected. OP has been running for years, so anyone who was a teenager when it started is now grown up. Pretty simple logic.

Feb 10, 2011 1:29 AM

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BTW, I'm not sure if somebody's already mentioned this, but the programme 'Today's Close-Up' also broadcasts in English on NHK World. So if you really wanted to see this, then it will probably be airing in the next couple of days, if it hasn't already. If you don't get NHK World on your TV, you can watch it online here

I don't think anybody's really surprised that a large majority are adults.

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Feb 10, 2011 2:35 AM

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oh...five pages of one piece lovers and haters.

I'll say that poll if full of 18-21 year olds. like other people already pointed it out, they started out young reading and keep reading when they turned adults.

I myself had seen one piece and for the life of me I can not see why its so popular.

I say MAL should do their own poll, add age and how long they been a fan of anime/manga. I predict that young first time people will rank the highest. While older, longer time fans would rank in the lowest part.

thats my 2 cents.

Feb 10, 2011 3:12 AM

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smokes said:
this just shows how ignorant some bitches are and how Trolls are born..

on ALL entire 600 chapters only ONE training arc was ( and that also skipped)
only 2 powerups ( not like bleach, over 5 or 6 i dont even remember )
and the NAKAMA thing was only at the beginning..

so stop trolling and stop provoking us..

i dont even understand why little kids who DIDNT even read the show are writing stuff on forums?
ugh

Golden Pistol, Gear 2, Gear 3, Nightmare Luffy, Candleman Luffy and Haki. I'm counting 6 upgrades Luffy got and used, regardless if they're temporary.
Nakama thing is only at the beginning? Really? Then why was Luffy blubbering about how he couldn't protect his nakama back at Archipelo?

And by us, do you mean One Piece fanboys?

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Feb 10, 2011 4:31 AM

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^wow dude font embarres yourself please.. You dont even know the difference between powerups and random shit luffys doing.. just for humor..(check bleach if you font know what powerups means)
I meant about the saving nakama Stuff..it was only when he starter to' gather the crewmwmbers...Now they Are just going to new world sincero they are full..thougb i do want a mermaid crewmwmber xD

Feb 10, 2011 4:49 AM

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And as usual, a good discussion gets ruined by idiots who think that biased reasoning somehow equals facts.

Thanks Metroid, smokes, echoshadow, etc.
You are everything that is wrong with anime communities.

NidhoeggrFeb 10, 2011 4:53 AM

Steel Ball Run anime when?

Feb 10, 2011 5:23 AM

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I'm one of the 13% :D
Well, that's not really surprising, since it's kinda adult-like, anyway ~ x3

Feb 10, 2011 5:48 AM

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I am read OP since I am young until I adult.

But I feel the spirit from my heart as same as young.

The world isn't beautiful,Therefore it is.

Feb 10, 2011 7:40 AM

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Not surprising at all, since i am turning 18 (adult) this month myself ^^
Though...i only watch the Anime XD

But really i hope people would stop bashing other shows/manga without even reading/watching them at all and even if you don't like the show please keep your shit to yourself.

- Thank you.

Feb 10, 2011 9:47 AM

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I'm not surprise since the manga has been running for 8-9 yrs?
so the readers are adults by now

Feb 10, 2011 10:21 AM

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I first tried reading the manga when I was 16. Didn't liked it back then. Now I'm a bit older (just a bit, mind you...I'm not that old) and I kinda appreciate it more. Not to the point of it making it my favorite, but to the point where I can understand why a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of people like it...

Maybe a lot of older readers understand and appreciate the story more because of maturity...

Feb 10, 2011 10:42 AM

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DAMN!? 88% thats sweet and well it's kinda not surprising.

Feb 10, 2011 11:05 AM

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But seriously if you consider that most people started reading for a while now (like 10 years or more), people even if they were 10 back then they are 20 now so it's only normal that most readers are adults and I kinda find it not that surprising.

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Feb 10, 2011 12:40 PM

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Invensible1 said:
people even if they were 10 back then they are 20 now

which is incorrect..

normal people dont start reading manga at 10 years old... that would be 5% or less..
plus the popularity of the manga wasn't at the beginning..

it started to be popular later after 20 volumes or so..

Feb 10, 2011 1:23 PM

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smokes said:

normal people dont start reading manga at 10 years old... that would be 5% or less..
plus the popularity of the manga wasn't at the beginning..

it started to be popular later after 20 volumes or so..

I can't speak for the western countries but in Asia, like Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, it is not an uncommon culture for boys as young as 10 to read manga. I am one living example and I know plenty of guys that fall into that category. The difference is most of them drop manga/anime as they grew older , well, probably because of quarter-life crisis.

Agree with the popularity went up after 20+ volumes though.

Feb 10, 2011 1:23 PM

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smokes said:

Invensible1 said:
people even if they were 10 back then they are 20 now

That is actually a misconception. I remember One Piece topping the weekly reader charts of WSJ even back in 1999, I even have a scan of such a chart flying around somewhre on my harddrive. Dunno if I can find it that fast, though.

Steel Ball Run anime when?

Feb 10, 2011 1:27 PM

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smokes said:

Invensible1 said:
people even if they were 10 back then they are 20 now

Why wouldn't someone begin to read manga at 10 years old?
The graphic is based on japan readers. Why a 10 years old kid wouldn't start reading a manga if it's available to him? Spacialy if it's a shonen manga, in a magazine supposedly directed to kids.
It's like saying that no normal 10 years old child reads spider-man or something like that.

Feb 10, 2011 1:35 PM

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Wow, that's interesting. Now I want to know about bleach.

Feb 10, 2011 3:24 PM

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Utsune said:
By chapter 10034 they'll all be adults

Exactly

Feb 10, 2011 3:27 PM

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smokes said:

Detective said:
but One Piece still strongly remains a shonen manga with often cliche shonen elements (fight bad guys until you win, NAKAMA, power ups, training arcs, etc)

:|
>who DIDNT even read the show
I really want to take your complaint seriously but I can't.

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Feb 10, 2011 3:49 PM

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smokes said:

ShadowGilgamesh said:
From everything i hear i should love one piece, so did i find it so unwatchable?

em dude, 1998, horrible animation/quality. etc. (ofc everyone will get turned off seeing nowadays animation quality)
read the original source aka Manga.

Don't ever blame the animation quality because of the Year. Ever heard of Neon Genesis Evangelion? Cowboy Bebop?

Feb 10, 2011 3:51 PM

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sert908 said:
Wow, that's interesting. Now I want to know about bleach.

This just in

90% of bleach readers are 12-14 years old.

Feb 10, 2011 4:36 PM

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Damn straight...I'm in the 32% bracket.

Feb 10, 2011 4:50 PM

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SuperSaiyen said:

smokes said:

ShadowGilgamesh said:
From everything i hear i should love one piece, so did i find it so unwatchable?

em dude, 1998, horrible animation/quality. etc. (ofc everyone will get turned off seeing nowadays animation quality)
read the original source aka Manga.

Don't ever blame the animation quality because of the Year. Ever heard of Neon Genesis Evangelion? Cowboy Bebop?

Gundam F91?
Macross?
Martian Successor Nadesico?

Feb 10, 2011 7:13 PM

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its not the gospels word

88% of subjects used for collecting the data were over 18%

Feb 10, 2011 11:01 PM

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Well it is one of the few long running mangas out there that is still good after so many chapters. ;)

Feb 10, 2011 11:26 PM

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i dont mean to complain about the current chapters, but there is like so much going on, its kinda hard to comprehend

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Feb 11, 2011 12:51 AM

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I rarely talk about One Piece, but....

Like everyone has been saying, if you have a manga that has been running for 13+ years, yeah eventually people grow up.

Also, who cares that 88% of One Piece readers are adults, is this meant to validate anything???....NO

Every manga/anime has different taste to different people, not every kid will like shounen and not every adult will like Seinen.

Feb 11, 2011 2:54 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
And as usual, a good discussion gets ruined by idiots who think that biased reasoning somehow equals facts.

Thanks Metroid, smokes, echoshadow, etc.
You are everything that is wrong with anime communities.

meh... Some people like Star Wars, some people like Star Trek.
all it is, is a new Dragon Ball Z for a new generation.

Feb 11, 2011 4:30 AM

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Haha wow, I've always thought a majority of the readers were kids. Guess I wrong P:

Feb 11, 2011 5:23 AM

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El Oh El

^
That's what I felt reading through this thread.

I'm One Piece fan (since I'm Korean), but its genre will ALWAYS be SHONEN, but never SEINEN. However, it doesn't mean it cannot appeal to adult more. Simple as that.

Beside, one piece is more of Japan's 'national manga' right next to dragon ball and Fist to star. Nothing can beat those three anyway. Even though Naruto is more popular in western kiddo fanbase, major buying power and critics will always be strictly inside Japan community.

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Feb 11, 2011 6:42 AM

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I rarely talk about One Piece, but....

Like everyone has been saying, if you have a manga that has been running for 13+ years, yeah eventually people grow up.

Also, who cares that 88% of One Piece readers are adults, is this meant to validate anything???....NO

Every manga/anime has different taste to different people, not every kid will like shounen and not every adult will like Seinen.

This means that even adults can't be bored with this manga.

Over 13 years and the popularity is growing which means the manga still kicks ass, and is interested enough (record after record)
Ofc it does not mean it's a Seinin, it's Just the only ongoin shounen that doesn't disappoint at the moment...

Feb 11, 2011 1:55 PM

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InfiniteRhapsody said:
wow xD
well im 18 XD, but i didnt expect that only 13% are youngsters XDDDD
looooooooooool

It says that 13% are OLDER than 50 years old. Geez. That surprised me.

Feb 11, 2011 6:15 PM

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Nidhoeggr said:

wakka9ca said:
This makes sense. It explains why OP always tops the sales. The buying power of adults >>> buying power of children and teenagers

But you cannot deny that it may have been a contributing factor.

Did I ever say that it was the only factor? Nitpicking on other people's comment is good but when you start to think everyone else is an idiot and you are the only smart one.... it won't get you far in a discussion.... Not everyone is as stupid and simple-minded as you think...

bla bla bla

The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.

Niko-kun said:
On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?

Feb 11, 2011 8:01 PM

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ShaunG said:
Not surprising, every person who've kept reading one piece from the start in his teenage days, is now 12 years older...

Feb 11, 2011 8:24 PM

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I'll take One Piece over Naruto (Anime at least) any day. But I am just round episode 165. `86 here and I just started this maybe two years ago.. same for anime with the exception of Dragonball Z about 7 years ago during highschool if i do my math right.

ApolloFCFeb 11, 2011 8:27 PM

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