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Enerccio said: SkyhighCFC said: This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I actually liked this ending? It definitely wasn't perfect, and I didn't like the bs they pulled in the EUA vs Hanyuu fight. I also didn't like the fact that Satoko didn't really face any real consequences in this ending. Sure she won't see her "friend" for like what? 3 years? But that's not really a consequence considering all she's done if you ask me. Despite those 2 issues though, this ending really surprised me. I genuinely thought they would go full "power of friendship" mode with the ending and have Satoko and Rika end the series as perfect friends like they were before all this even started, or even lovers. That ending would have pissed me off beyond belief. But they actually shocked me by going with an ending where, yea they're cooler with each other now, but they definitely don't see completely eye to eye now. If they weren't going to go with the full dark ending like I knew they wouldn't, I think this is the best alternative. Overall though, SOTSU as a whole has been disappointing...especially the last 5 or so episodes. Not everything was bad, but man they REALLY could've done so much better with this premise. How can you like this ending? It makes no sense for Rika to forgive. At all. At any rate I won't even give sotsu the benefit of the watch, from spoiler reactions it is just exactly how leaker leaked so I don't have to watch this garbagio. Wait for the manga, I doubt much will change, but it will at least be a little better than this. |
Jin_uzuki said: The moral of the story is uuuuuuuuuhhhh You can disembowel your bestest of best friends and still be able to kiss and make up in the end because you're friends who need to understand each others' boundaries. Also punch them in the face when they complain about studying for math. |
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SkyhighCFC said: Chargecoulomb said: 1/10 extremely disappointed. Higurashi fans got nothing Umineko Fans got nothing Yuri fans got nothing A complete and utter waste of time. This disappointment is an utter cancer on WTC. Passione should be ashamed about making this, and Ryuukishi should be ashamed he wrote this mess. This destroyed Rika and Satoko for what? NOTHING! No witch ending, no Yuri ending. Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. This is a shame. A real shame. After everything, Passione has the balls to play dear you at the end of this travesty. You think a yuri ending would've been appropriate considering all the shit Satoko has done in this series? It would definitely not feel justified imo Of course not, Im saying that nobody got anything out of this. Not even the Yuri fans. |
Hey, at least Disney would have thrown the bad guy off a cliff or something. |
Thats not the right song, there are many differnt versions of "you", that version is from Higurashi no naku koro ni Outbreak if I remember correctly. I'm currently looking for the name of this version as well. |
| ryu07 really went and wrote a terrible fanfic of his own creation lmao |
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Kurotaku-sama said: Thats not the right song, there are many differnt versions of "you", that version is from Higurashi no naku koro ni Outbreak if I remember correctly. I'm currently looking for the name of this version as well. I dont think its out yet https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NABSgiM4IM While it does, I heavily reccomend anyone to listen to dear you Kizuna |
ChargecoulombSep 30, 2021 11:39 AM
Kurotaku-sama said: Thats not the right song, there are many differnt versions of "you", that version is from Higurashi no naku koro ni Outbreak if I remember correctly. I'm currently looking for the name of this version as well. ima try and find it as well, i forgot that this song was played during higurashi |
| Felt like a disaster throughout honestly Dear You always remains in my heart though no matter how many years pass I hope they adapt all umineko games and make a total joke out of them now |
 "Only one with the courage to shoulder the burden of their own fate can be called a hero.." |
| By the time Keiichi, Rena and Mion showed up I had already forgotten that this series used to have more than two main characters. I'm so tired of Satoko and even Rika to an extent, I wish the writers actually used this wonderful cast of characters and did something more interesting, both in the latter half of Gou and the entirety of Sotsu. I know people complained about the bizarre tone-shift in Ep. 14 (I agree btw, that magical fight felt very out-of-place), but for me this one was even more strange. All these traumatic loops and suddenly after a fistfight everything is settled and somehow these two aren't mentally unhinged and sakura trees blossom while happy times ensue. The resolution certainly felt undeserved and rendered the whole reboot/sequel/??? pretty much pointless. Also, showing Satoshi waking up and nothing else regarding him was straight-up cheap. 3/10, mostly because of the abundant recaps. |
Chargecoulomb said: Kurotaku-sama said: Thats not the right song, there are many differnt versions of "you", that version is from Higurashi no naku koro ni Outbreak if I remember correctly. I'm currently looking for the name of this version as well. I dont think its out yet https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9SMx_UWfQ While it does, I heavily reccomend anyone to listen to dear you Kizuna I heared already all versions but in my opinion Dear You and You ~Arigatou~ are the best. |
| Hanyuu defeated Eua and peace has been brought back to Hinamizawa. I pretty much guessed right that Rika and Satoko would go their separate ways and Rika would attend St Lucia on her own. I did not expect that they promised each other to keep in touch eventually after an eternal fight in loops. In the end it seems that Looper Satoko eventually left this world behind but I am not sure. a bittersweet ending. The concept of 2 friends looping is pretty much an unexplored territory. I mentioned in the other thread that I could make the concept better than R07 and I will try my best to deliver, even if it can take years before I have something to show. |
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| Though the ending was wholesome, it was incredibly underwhelming and disappointing. |
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JackDSF123 said: Chargecoulomb said: I dont think its out yet https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9SMx_UWfQ While it does, I heavily reccomend anyone to listen to dear you Kizuna I really like the Kizuna version, but... this link is to a video of Jahy-sama wa Kujikenai! hahaha Oh damn. Sorry about that. Alrighty I edited it, thanks for letting me know! I did enjoy Jahy though. |
ChargecoulombSep 30, 2021 11:43 AM
Si1verR0se said: Oleogm said: Okay, let's ignore all the "I know you love me although u killed me several times", let's talk more about the lore. Again, I'm not an expert in Umineko, I know just the basic, BUT, there's no fuckin way the most powerful witch in existence, would lose against Hanyuu and a magic sword, let aside in a 10 seconds fight. Also, as far as I know, breaking that "halo" of Eua should make WAAAAAAAAY MORE than just reduce her. And how does this connect with the post credit scene of higurashi? Where Witch Rika appears. These two seasons are suppossed to take place in the timeline of higurashi OC, the first time Rika breaks the loop, then she and Satoko go to Saint Lucia, all this shit happens and THEN, go back to higurashi OC and the post credit scene take place, with a Witch Rika helping the blonde gilr (at this point I don't remember her name), to evade this loop from happening, loop which theorically ended as we've seen, with her coming back to her senses by herself, so why go to her house from her childhood when literally nothing happened. Idk, this doesn't make sense. I supposse this is only to canon-link Higurashi with Umineko and explain the origin of the witch version of Satoko. Anyway, if we listen to the leaker, which apparently was entirely right, we're gonna have more Higurashi (not Umineko, that's important) in 2022. Sooooooooooooo.... Until that new Higurashi thing prove it to be some kind of masterpiece enough to make these 2 seasons a little bit important, the original ending is my canon, not this. Uminekofans probably will explain to you why it's bullshit, while Uminekofags will explain why it isn't. I mean, if whoever wanted to defend all bullshit they're could come up with very thin reasoning, like "if it wasn't said, then it means it never was like that" so there could be something like "Well, actually it's not Featherine" or "Yeah it's Featherine, but it's not bullshit because Hanyu is stronger, since we never been told in red that Hanyu is weaker" or smth along those lines lol Eua is a plot device, thats (probably) all there is to it. 2022 Higu is not really confirmed... At least I dont think so? Leaker wasnt sure about it, since they didnt check it themselves. |
| New (anime?) Work. Confirmed to not be Umineko https://higurashinazotoki.olevent.jp/lp/  |
NTAD said: Digimon 2020 was more disappointing. Lol, this, I can agree with. |
Real talk. Probably worse than Sotsu, although for me it fell into the "so bad it's good" category. Sorry to spam, but I wrote an entry on DR3's asinine plot it when it finished airing, linking it to anyone interested: https://akinoanime.com/2018/06/17/danganronpa-3-dos-series-al-precio-de-una-embolia/ |
Chargecoulomb said: New (anime?) Work. Confirmed to not be Umineko https://higurashinazotoki.olevent.jp/lp/ I can almost feel Sayo's despair. |
Chargecoulomb said: New (anime?) Work. Confirmed to not be Umineko https://higurashinazotoki.olevent.jp/lp/ Imagine Ciconia anime lol Also where does your "confirmed" comes from? Do you forget how many lies were in promotion nf SotsuGou |
why? I think it is quite possible that it will be Umineko |
| Overall entertaining season and all the Teppei stuff was goated, but man this ending was so trash, althought tbf the whole conflict was retarded from the start, god I hate Satoko. |
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Shengud said: Though the ending was wholesome, it was incredibly underwhelming and disappointing. Honestly, this sums up the episode for me too. I've been in a limbo on how to rate this and Gou as such but I've settled with a generous 6 and 4 respectively for the time being. Fact that You (Sotsugyu ver.) featured in the end instantly got a smile on my face, the song is just such a treat for the ears and a tired mind! I remember going through the YT playlists of all the diff versions of the songs numerous times during study sessions so they're in a special place of my heart and now, there's one more to the list. Well played, Ryukishi-sensei. Plus, the incredibly positive vibe from the shots, despite how ridiculously contrasting they're to the entire series, somehow just ended up leaving a good-ish note, at least for right now. Even the side characters got their happiness and Dark Satoko, conveniently, is somehow no more. And it took just a talking from the seniors plus a heartfelt conversation between the two to put all the gruesome killings and negativity aside though, I don't think I can come to appreciate 39-episodes worth of content just for this finale. Also, Satoko's nii-nii returning back like that was just ... a "are you serious?" moment. Likewise, the whole Hanyu v Eua deal and Eua suddenly changing to a chibi avatar. I've got so much to share but to make things short, I'm filled with mixed feelings and I definitely don't think these are the worthy additions to the franchise that I was hoping for, especially considering that they returned like 11 yrs later. Milking has become a serious problem, and this will serve as a prime example in my mind, for sure. Heard there's a chance for another project? Please, let it be a bit more meaningful and comprehensible next time! @Shengud I really don't want to be that person but I feel like the odds are more that the next projects will flop just as hard, if not worse. I'd love to be proven wrong though. |
_MushiRock11_Oct 1, 2021 12:32 AM
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Si1verR0se said: Chargecoulomb said: New (anime?) Work. Confirmed to not be Umineko https://higurashinazotoki.olevent.jp/lp/ Imagine Ciconia anime lol Also where does your "confirmed" comes from? Do you forget how many lies were in promotion nf SotsuGou Ryuukishi would lie sure, but I doubt even he would lie about what series his next work would be based on. That's too much , even for him. Because unchecked Umineko expectations could be dangerous. Also did any of you see the site? It's clearly Higurashi. + Ryuukishi said that it was Higurashi very clearly. + leaker confirmed more Higurashi in 2022 NOT Umineko.. Im still not sure what it actually is? Anime? Game? Movie? It being Umineko is not out of the question, but highly highly unlikely. |
ChargecoulombSep 30, 2021 12:46 PM
| It's finally ended! F**k you, show. Nothing really to write home about, this is the safest of the safe endings they could bargain for after this absolute disaster. A little happy on the inside they didn't force a Umineko/Ciconia connection at the end. Nor did they aim for immediately teasing a possible sequel. Another good thing is that Rika and Satoko aren't totally besties now. Oh who tf cares, this isn't canon anyways. Who threatened Ryu to do this? Au-au?? |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| The leaker warned about this shit ending, but holy shit, that was BAD. I didn't read the VN, but I guess players felt insulted after listening to a Dear You remix in the end. The message of "Just because you're friends doesn't mean you have to do everything together" is touching and I love it, but man, this series doesn't live up to that message. You don't go around killing your friends. 3/10, stop milking this franchise. |
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| how roaches stare at you when you hit them with the dollar store bug spray |
| It was kind of impossible to make a finale that everyone liked. I thought it was fine, not great, but not nearly as bad as I see a lot of people saying. Then again, I'm not a long time fan, so my expectations didn't have the time to be stacked up. The ending isn't everything, either. I thought the rest of the show was awesome, so I'll give it a 7-8. |
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| Ending was okay, but for something like Higurashi it just doesn't really belong. The power of friendship bullshit shouldn't be a thing |
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| Simply in three words... Not My Higurashi. Gonna pretend this version didn't exist and only think about the original and better anime, that is forever in my top 5 animes of all time |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| Look at how they massacred this franchise. |
| For anybody who doesn't know. The director of Sotsu gave an interview. He makes it clear that Sotsu was planned and outlined by Ryuukishi. So the overall problems that Sotsu has is 100 percent Ryuukishis fault. However the recap extension was partly the fault of Passione. So that's it. Ryuukishi does have some blame here. |
_MushiRock11_ said: If they do make another show, I hope it isn't as bad as Gou and Sotsu.Shengud said: Though the ending was wholesome, it was incredibly underwhelming and disappointing. Honestly, this sums up the episode for me too. I've been in a limbo on how to rate this and Gou as such but I've settled with a generous 6 and 4 respectively for the time being. Fact that You (Sotsugyu ver.) featured in the end instantly got a smile on my face, the song is just such a treat for the ears and a tired mind! I remember going through the YT playlists of all the diff versions of the songs numerous times during study sessions so they're in a special place of my heart and now, there's one more to the list. Well played, Ryukishi-sensei. Plus, the incredibly positive vibe from the shots, despite how ridiculously contrasting they're to the entire series, somehow just ended up leaving a good-ish note, at least for right now. Even the side characters got their happiness and Dark Satoko, conveniently, is somehow no more. And it took just a talking from the seniors plus a heartfelt conversation between the two to put all the gruesome killings and negativity aside though, I don't think I can come to appreciate 39-episodes worth of content just for this finale. Also, Satoko's nii-nii returning back like that was just ... a "are you serious?" moment. Likewise, the whole Hanyu v Eua deal and Eua suddenly changing to a chibi avatar. I've got so much to share but to make things short, I'm filled with mixed feelings and I definitely don't think these are the worthy additions to the franchise that I was hoping for, especially considering that they returned like 11 yrs later. Milking has become a serious problem, and this will serve as a prime example in my mind, for sure. Heard there's a chance for another project? Please, let it be a bit more meaningful and comprehensible next time! |
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| I won't lie, I enjoyed the very ending of this episode and the beggining of the one before it, but all that happened in between is another story... All the Mahou Shoujo Higurashi Magica moments, Rika and Satoko settling all their differences with punches and idle talk after figthing to death dozens of times, Hanyuu summoning the sword all of a sudden without any explanation, Eua being struck after barely reacting and then turning into a loli????? WTF was this shit man, Hanyuu was going all "we make miracles happen" and then rose her hand to call the deity sword. What as the miracle? Rika dropping the sword in the river? The sword being thrown in slow mo while Rika is punching Satoko at 110pch/m (punches per minute)? GoSotsu had a great premise, but its execution was made in one of the shitiest ways ever. 4/10 |
spiderexpert said: I'm talking about the part right near the end, where Dear You plays. Shengud said: Rika suffering Stockholm syndrome is not wholesome.Though the ending was wholesome, it was incredibly underwhelming and disappointing. Chargecoulomb said: I didn't mind the recaps at the time because I was optimistic, now I want my hours of life back.For anybody who doesn't know. The director of Sotsu gave an interview. He makes it clear that Sotsu was planned and outlined by Ryuukishi. So the overall problems that Sotsu has is 100 percent Ryuukishis fault. However the recap extension was partly the fault of Passione. So that's it. Ryuukishi does have some blame here. CannedMarmalade said: Maybe they thought the audience was tired of seeing characters massacred and decided to do meta-horror instead.Look at how they massacred this franchise. |
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| For everyone who is... or was saying that this is the end. And that there was no news about new anime, I just wanted to point out what Satoko & Rika said. The more proper translation would be as: One day we'll meet again. We'll meet again soon. Again in 'whatever' When They Cry. Interpret it as you will, but to me it sounds like they are atleast planning on making some form of WTC where these two characters will appear. And I doubt it will just simply be another "Higurashi". I also doubt that it will be about the same thing that we're getting on December. Unless the December event is simply an announcement for future. However sad it may seem, I have a hunch that it will be tied to Umineko. And this in actuality was a "revelation" of pointing out how Rika and Satoko actually are the Umineko Witches, not simply controlled pawns. LMAO xD There was 2 comments which made my day today, and this was the first. vegeta8639 said: Honestly... Even when the writing would be expectedly good, I doubt the studio and the director could really tap on it.Hopefully next time they'll do something like adapt the console arcs since they were way better than this sequel. ssjokg said: Well that was awfully short lived.Thankfully this actually concluded the story and there were no news about another Higurashi or Umineko anime. Jin_uzuki said: The moral is.The moral of the story is uuuuuuuuuhhhh It doesn't matter what kind of child abuser you are, how many you hurt and for how long. Everyone will forgive you if you "try". Kurotaku-sama said: This is a new mix so I doubt it's by itself on youtube yet, tho someone could rip it out from the episode itself.Thats not the right song, there are many differnt versions of "you", that version is from Higurashi no naku koro ni Outbreak if I remember correctly. I'm currently looking for the name of this version as well. All I can help with is that the singer was Shimamiya Eiko, the same person who sang the OG Openings. The linked version is the original from Meakashi VN. Chargecoulomb said: I see, so this is how R07 has fallen. It is quite sad.For anybody who doesn't know. The director of Sotsu gave an interview. He makes it clear that Sotsu was planned and outlined by Ryuukishi. So the overall problems that Sotsu has is 100 percent Ryuukishis fault. However the recap extension was partly the fault of Passione. So that's it. Ryuukishi does have some blame here. I hadn't got into Ciconia yet, but now I wonder if it will be worth reading. Def not feeling like it would be worth buying atm. [EDIT]The Dear You version is called Sotsugyou.. Yeah, who would have guessed? |
HulioSep 30, 2021 1:25 PM
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Chargecoulomb said: For anybody who doesn't know. The director of Sotsu gave an interview. He makes it clear that Sotsu was planned and outlined by Ryuukishi. So the overall problems that Sotsu has is 100 percent Ryuukishis fault. However the recap extension was partly the fault of Passione. So that's it. Ryuukishi does have some blame here. He wrote it. He has all copyright. Who else can you blame? This isn't Game of Thrones where the studio was writing the script... |
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