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Mar 30, 2008 8:12 PM

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Noe fans probably think Noe's hair is longer than Hiromi!
Mar 30, 2008 8:16 PM

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Tekky99 said:
I dunno how i feel about this show after it's done.
I think i'm gonna need a rewatch of the series to get a definitive review


wait, if you havent finished the series, why are you reading ep 13 discussions? isnt this like serious spoilers for you??

o.o
Mar 30, 2008 8:26 PM

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Yay Hiromi! Definitely one of my favorite series. I still wasn't sure of the ending up till the point when he said he was in love with Hiromi >>; I'm glad he wrapped things up with Noe as well. At least he was honest in saying his heart did waver.

Kinda weird that it took Noe an entire season change to finally cry.

So I guess we'll never know why Shin's mom hated Hiromi's mom D:
Mar 30, 2008 8:29 PM

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wow, man. The Noe fans on here are clawing at their necks in anger (a la Hinamizawa Syndrome)
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voidbringer said:
Tekky99 said:
I dunno how i feel about this show after it's done.
I think i'm gonna need a rewatch of the series to get a definitive review


wait, if you havent finished the series, why are you reading ep 13 discussions? isnt this like serious spoilers for you??

o.o

Umm... I agree that the phrase "rewatch the series to get a definitive review" is pretty confusing, but he did say "rewatch" after all. Meaning, he wants to watch it again. Meaning, he has already seen it once. ^.^

Nino said:
So I guess we'll never know why Shin's mom hated Hiromi's mom D:

Forgive me if I'm forgetting something, but didn't she make a big deal out of thinking that her husband had cheated on her with Hiromi's mother? I don't think that was a lie she made up, I think she really believed that had happened.

MajorAddiction said:
wow, man. The Noe fans on here are clawing at their necks in anger (a la Hinamizawa Syndrome)

Seriously, it's kind of scary. And the Hiromi fans are gloating like Oyashiro-sama.
I think it'd be great if we could all be True Tears fans rather than only Hiromi or only Noe fans. Just saying...
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well he can say that he will have to rewatch it after he is done with the series...
w/e
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voidbringer said:
well he can say that he will have to rewatch it after he is done with the series...
w/e

What the hell are you on about, he clearly says rewatch, plus if you actually checked his list it has true tears set as complete -_-...
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Mar 30, 2008 9:11 PM
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I'm left with an inexplicable lack of feeling for that ending.
Mar 30, 2008 9:57 PM

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Dan88 said:
wow what a boring episode and ending! Did the producers lose their nerve at the last moment. We get a cliff hanger ...and then nothing.

Hiromi can do the splits ....she is such a ditzy house wife! How small is her brain!
Shinichiro is such a pussy whipped wimp.

No amount of desperate shouting of this love for Hiromi is going to hide the fact he loved Noe. He is clearly going to have regretes, like his dad, for a long while.
It seemed like Hiromi was rail roading him into a relationship which he did not seem very passionate about. However he is young and will hopefully find someone else he truly loves and walk out on Hiromi (they are only going out anyway) - it is what would happen in the west but do the Japanese do things like that.

The series had a good start and then just faded away at the end...
No need to buy this series on DVDs then!


Thank You!

I really did think it was kind of clear with how Shin acted these last 2 episodes that he really loved Noe but he was somehow pressured into a Hiromi relationship. You can't ignore how he totally blew off Hiromi at the end of episode 12 to go be with Noe and then you can't ignore how emotional he got when he had to break the news to Noe that he was a spineless wimp and he couldn't turn away from what he was pressured into.

He also really hesitated when he was saying to Noe that Hiromi was in his heart while crying. I really think it's rather obvious.
Mar 30, 2008 10:00 PM

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Couple questions.

1. What does Shinichiro's dad do?
2. Who is that kid that followed Noe's brother off the bus?
Mar 30, 2008 10:12 PM

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DigimonTamer said:
After thinking about it, it's pretty obvious that he really loved Noe and just went with Hiromi because that was the expected choice and he is destined to be a boring japanese salary man who works 60 hours a week.

He never cried like that for Hiromi and the way he was saying it seemed to me as if he was just trying to make himself forget about the one he truly loved, and that would be Noe.

It's a shame that Shin was forced into a choice he didn't want to make by his parents.


Whatever helps you sleep at night dude.


Amen! XD


Mar 30, 2008 10:41 PM

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one of the best series this season, the ending was wonderfull but not powerfull enough, the part where shin cried was good, but i just felt something missing. I'll probably forget how it ended in a couple of months.


argh wth, seriously, this isn't h2o epi 8, what are the subbers thinking
Mar 30, 2008 10:42 PM

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I wonder what Hiromi's answer was to Shinichiro's question... I think its a "Yes" but at the same time, I think it was a "No"... -_-
Mar 30, 2008 11:06 PM

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DigimonTamer said:
Dan88 said:
wow what a boring episode and ending! Did the producers lose their nerve at the last moment. We get a cliff hanger ...and then nothing.

Hiromi can do the splits ....she is such a ditzy house wife! How small is her brain!
Shinichiro is such a pussy whipped wimp.

No amount of desperate shouting of this love for Hiromi is going to hide the fact he loved Noe. He is clearly going to have regretes, like his dad, for a long while.
It seemed like Hiromi was rail roading him into a relationship which he did not seem very passionate about. However he is young and will hopefully find someone else he truly loves and walk out on Hiromi (they are only going out anyway) - it is what would happen in the west but do the Japanese do things like that.

The series had a good start and then just faded away at the end...
No need to buy this series on DVDs then!


Thank You!

I really did think it was kind of clear with how Shin acted these last 2 episodes that he really loved Noe but he was somehow pressured into a Hiromi relationship. You can't ignore how he totally blew off Hiromi at the end of episode 12 to go be with Noe and then you can't ignore how emotional he got when he had to break the news to Noe that he was a spineless wimp and he couldn't turn away from what he was pressured into.

He also really hesitated when he was saying to Noe that Hiromi was in his heart while crying. I really think it's rather obvious.
Ha ha ha no need to run away from reality dude... The reality is, Hiromi wins. ha ha ha.

"gg noefags, you lose"
-woof fansub group

XD
Mar 30, 2008 11:17 PM
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this is quite a long discussion with many people "debating" over something.. anyways.. it was an interesting anime that made me want to watch more.. ending.. could have been better.. but.. not one to complain bout stuff others made..
Mar 31, 2008 12:29 AM

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Average ending to an above average show. Overall 9/10.
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Mar 31, 2008 12:41 AM

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ynagato said:
Couple questions.

1. What does Shinichiro's dad do?
2. Who is that kid that followed Noe's brother off the bus?

1: He brews sake.
2: A simple bystander.
Mar 31, 2008 1:06 AM

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Ending = Bleh~

T///T

Mar 31, 2008 1:32 AM

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I love simply this series, which tunes action, the story am correct, the music am marvelous!!! Everything is super!!!
Mar 31, 2008 3:43 AM
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T_T this anime is one of the best dramas hope thay make a game with different endings T_T
Mar 31, 2008 3:54 AM

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dam good 5/5 episode.
HiromiXShin ending with that rly sweet bit at the bamboo grove
Noe made friends
Ai got back with Miyokichi (even though it happened already)
I reckon this was one of the best anime this summer season
Mar 31, 2008 8:15 AM

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LeTrueNoir said:
T_T this anime is one of the best dramas hope thay make a game with different endings T_T
Well there is a game already, though it has nothing to do with the anime in any way other than the name XD
Mar 31, 2008 10:48 AM

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Pretty boring end...it had much potential but simply missed the mark.

9/10


Mar 31, 2008 6:47 PM
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overall it was a very solid romance series and i like to rate things in thier genre more so than overall
Mar 31, 2008 9:50 PM
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canis said:

I also wondered about that. Was that even fanservice? o_O Ok, I'm a girl and maybe fail to see the pleasure this scene gave to male viewers, but it really was just weird. XD Hiromi acts weird since she lives alone. XD

However, she does do weird things when alone...like the foot bra thing from earlier.


LOL yeah that was WEIRD, I was like, wtf is that, that's some creepy fanservice right there.
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h0riz0nLine said:
DigimonTamer said:
Dan88 said:
wow what a boring episode and ending! Did the producers lose their nerve at the last moment. We get a cliff hanger ...and then nothing.

Hiromi can do the splits ....she is such a ditzy house wife! How small is her brain!
Shinichiro is such a pussy whipped wimp.

No amount of desperate shouting of this love for Hiromi is going to hide the fact he loved Noe. He is clearly going to have regretes, like his dad, for a long while.
It seemed like Hiromi was rail roading him into a relationship which he did not seem very passionate about. However he is young and will hopefully find someone else he truly loves and walk out on Hiromi (they are only going out anyway) - it is what would happen in the west but do the Japanese do things like that.

The series had a good start and then just faded away at the end...
No need to buy this series on DVDs then!


Thank You!

I really did think it was kind of clear with how Shin acted these last 2 episodes that he really loved Noe but he was somehow pressured into a Hiromi relationship. You can't ignore how he totally blew off Hiromi at the end of episode 12 to go be with Noe and then you can't ignore how emotional he got when he had to break the news to Noe that he was a spineless wimp and he couldn't turn away from what he was pressured into.

He also really hesitated when he was saying to Noe that Hiromi was in his heart while crying. I really think it's rather obvious.
Ha ha ha no need to run away from reality dude... The reality is, Hiromi wins. ha ha ha.

"gg noefags, you lose"
-woof fansub group

XD


The reality is, this is an anime.

Btw, it was originally a game where you could choose who you wanted to end with, so there's no "real" ending.
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Spy47 said:
The reality is, this is an anime.

Btw, it was originally a game where you could choose who you wanted to end with, so there's no "real" ending.


Not really, tho. The anime shares none of the original plot or characters from the game. Just about the only thing they have in common is the name.
Apr 1, 2008 9:44 AM

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Kotori said:
hah they made a 2:24 sub from the ending scene before the complete subs:


Oh, LOL! I'm dl that right away!

Yeah I thought the anime was great overall, but at the end, was it just me or did Jun have a son at the end? (Possibly with Noe?!)
Apr 1, 2008 10:21 AM

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It was just a random kid on the bus who happened to be in the middle of the picture.
Apr 1, 2008 2:00 PM

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Faust721 said:
It was a very nice end. But it was so sad for Noe. I at least still <3 you though. Overall this show gets a high 8 from me. Really enjoyed this series as a whole.

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*sigh*

Hiromi really ruined this show.

EDIT- Just decided to look at something from this very website!!

Noe Member Favorites = 75
Hiromi Member Favorites = 22

The makers of this anime really messed up as it's clear who the fans preferred, and it wasn't Hiromi.


It was still am ok show, so 8/10 is what i give as well..
Apr 1, 2008 2:02 PM

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So I guess we'll never know why Shin's mom hated Hiromi's mom D:

Forgive me if I'm forgetting something, but didn't she make a big deal out of thinking that her husband had cheated on her with Hiromi's mother? I don't think that was a lie she made up, I think she really believed that had happened.

She said at the end of episode 9 that she already knew something like that had never happened and admitted that she lied. So it seems kind of odd, that she was that mean to Hiromi over something she knew was a lie. Even if she thought it was true when she was younger, she knew now that it wasn't, so why still harbor such hatred?
Apr 1, 2008 2:11 PM

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I'm not sure if it makes sense to have two characters get together just because of the fandom. I mean, if you're going for the "Happy Ending" route then you'll want to have the two characters who "fit" the best to end up together, and with a love that has been brewing for the better part of their lives this is certainly Hiromi and Shin. Not to mention it complements Hiromi's past.

That aside, I personally preferred Noe, I thought she was a much more interesting character. However I did not like the way the show handled her tears. Sure, I usually enjoy such subtle endings, in this case I thought it could have been done more effectively with a dramatic confrontation of her reclaiming her tears.

Though, I will admit, the subtle ending was beautiful. So in the end, this show ends up with a 7, at the higher end of things. It was quite nicely done.
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YuenSan said:

Yeah I thought the anime was great overall, but at the end, was it just me or did Jun have a son at the end? (Possibly with Noe?!)


lmao it did seem like that. I was like wtfsmallkid.
Apr 1, 2008 3:34 PM

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Nino said:
She said at the end of episode 9 that she already knew something like that had never happened and admitted that she lied. So it seems kind of odd, that she was that mean to Hiromi over something she knew was a lie. Even if she thought it was true when she was younger, she knew now that it wasn't, so why still harbor such hatred?


It's because Shin = Shin's Dad, Hiromi = Shin's Mum and Noe = Hiromi's Mum and Hiromi was a constant reminded of the person Shin's Mother nearly lost her husband to. I'll re post what I posted on psgels blog a few days ago.

Very rough but I haven't had time to go over the Suki thread to iron out the kinks.

Okay this is just speculation since it involves a lot of reading in between the lines but I believe I’m close enough to be right. I think Shin’s mother went through a similar experience to Hiromi when she was younger.

Shin = Shin’s Dad
Hiromi = Shin’s Mother
Noe = Hiromi’s Mother

Remember how Shin’s mother (I wish she had a name….) cut out the head of Hiromi’s mother in that picture. Remember how she mentioned that Hiromi looked just like her and also had eyes that could seduce men. The latter line Hiromi used on Noe before realizing she was becoming like Shin’s mother was another clue imo.

So Shin’s mother (who I have to say is hot) didn’t really hate Hiromi, she just hated Hiromi’s mother and you could say she transferred her hate onto Hiromi. Having a constant reminder of the woman you nearly lost your husband too must’ve been hard on her.

I don’t think she honestly realized how much she was affecting Hiromi. She was shocked when Hiromi brought up the “You’re related to Shin” barb which was probably just a random dart she through in frustration, sadly for Hiromi it hit her heart.

Episode 7 she tried to talk to her about it but got interrupted by Shin, from episode 9 onwards she treated Hiromi as an actual person and not “that persons” daughter. In the last episode at the scene from the 8 minute mark onwards I think she picked up that Hiromi was in a similar situation to her which caused the visit to her flat later on.

Shin’s dads reaction to Shin’s question about when you cry was another hint, notice how Shin said that Noe made his heart waver which was the response Shin’s dad said.

Anyway I haven’t read the rest of the Suki thread since yesterday (page 5) but I’m sure someone on their has posted something similar, but more well thought out and articulate.
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Shin x Hiromi all way! Noe and Shin scene are very emotional. Sad day for Noe. I'm glad that she's happy when she's in school. Hiromi and Shin's mom's have a nice relationship. I really don't care about Noe's brother. This episode felt rushed to me but good episode. Best romance anime on Winter 2008 even I've seen so far.

9.4/10 on this series from me.
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Kotori said:
hah they made a 2:24 sub from the ending scene before the complete subs:



Which group did that? I don't recall it in the version I watched.
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it's a sepparate file, check in tokyotosho
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Yay for Hiromi!! :D

Anyway.. lame ending, wtf not even a kiss


i noe man>=o!



Apr 2, 2008 10:39 PM

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They already kissed and like the ending for the original El Hazard anime it's obvious they love each other anyway.
Apr 3, 2008 8:55 PM

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i liked Noe but i wasnt expecting they would get together because it was clearly obvious Shin wanted Hiromi throughout the series, unless they really were blood related then its a different story. The thing that felt like there was something missing is that for some reason i wanted Noe to be able to cry again. The ending was satisfying and the opening and ending song went well with the series. best harem as of yet.

Kotori said:
hah they made a 2:24 sub from the ending scene before the complete subs:

Which group did that? I don't recall it in the version I watched.


looks like it was done by "m.3.3.w Fansubs"
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This is a great romance anime! I like all the characters, but initially I though Shin was going to end up with Noe. I'm not a fan of harem animes basically because usually the character I want to main character to go out with, doesn't.
Originally I wanted Hiromi to win, but after the introduction on Noe, I knew that he was going to end up with her; though this didn't neccessarily disapoint me, it did create a bit of a shock.

This anime is definatly NOT a cliched anime, the animation is good all around, and the music and sound effects are outstanding! The ending was good, but it felt dragged, they could have added more scenes within those dragged moments, but overall a great anime ^^

9/10
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Apr 4, 2008 10:41 AM

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I was never all that keen on Hiromi, so it bugged me a hell of a lot when he chose her over Noe. Although I'm sure it's made Noe's brother pretty content. :P
I was pleased to see the other pairings go well, but there was just something about the ending that irriated me. Perhaps True Tears Second will get rid of that feeling.

It's a 6/10 from me.
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I doubt there's room in the story for a 2nd season
Apr 4, 2008 5:33 PM
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Rubbish ending to what could have been a great romance drama. Disappointment.
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Apr 5, 2008 4:21 AM
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T_T this anime is one of the best dramas hope thay make a game with different endings T_T
Well there is a game already, though it has nothing to do with the anime in any way other than the name XD
lol i know i seen it XD
Apr 5, 2008 8:05 AM

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What an ending =.= I SUPPORT NOE !
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It's the first time I write s.t. about this anime.

2/3 of the show I thought it was really, really great. A 9 - nearly a 10.
But the last few episodes were strange. Not really so good anymore. Now it's still a 9 but nearly an 8 for me.

I didn't really prefer one girl over the other, so the outcome was ok. Still the only "not-emo" girl was Ai-chan. The one thing this anime has done really well was to cloak the outcome. Until ep 13 I was not 100% sure who would get Shin. I always thought it would be Hitomi, but i wavered at some points.

There were some parts not really logical and rather unrealistic in the last few eps.
Endings have to be great and this one disappointed me a bit, after all those good episodes before. I had to think of "Kimi ga Nozomu Eien" and how it made so many things better near the end.

Shin was a rather lame guy (like most male leads in romance animes). I mean at first he was rather ok, but during the last episodes he couldn't do anything without somebody telling him what he should do. He was a severe case, since we knew from the start that he loves Hitomi. But he couldn't open his mouth. In the end of 10 he seemed to have awakened, but he did nothing! He even had to be kissed and still did nothing. I mean how unrealistic is this?

Noe's brotherxNoe reminded me a bit of "I'm in love with my sister" (you have to watch this anime - it's nearly a 10, too) and how he decided to move away, because it is painful for him.

Any other person who was a bit afraid that Shin's mum could have poisened the food? ^^

Ok, time to finish this:

Noe made watching this great! She had a very unique and strange personality. She can fight on equal terms with Mai and Futami. Yay for Noe!

Ah yes, the animation. With no doubt a 10! Fantastic drawing!

Overall 9/10.


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It was ok but I was expecting more, both girls are nutcases and I was always wondering when they would suicide.

I enjoyed the end tho, it was a bit plain but i liked Noe side, I couldn't accept him choosing noe, there was no reason for that. Now Hiromi shouldnt get him either just like that, it needed something more to be perfect.
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I would have preferred Noe, but it was a nice ending regardless. Noe and Shin both learned something from each other and became better people because of it...Nice to see Aiko has her priorities sorted as well...
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I enjoyed this series but the ending left me somewhat disappointed
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