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| I thought the last episode was better after watching it the second time, when I knew what was going on. This episode wasn't bad, just didn't live up to the huge standards of the first 11 shows. At least we got an actual ending instead of a cliffhanger. The first 11 episodes were so heavy, it was like I had an anvil on my chest. Great tragedy and drama. 9/10 overall. |
| This anime is a masterpiece , mixing some of the best visuals and music I've ever seen with great drama and cool characters ! ending is much better than my-hime although not the best ending and it created some plot holes or contradictions .. still great and somehow sad yuki kajura did really outdone herself with this .. |
| Watching Denpa Onna after this... it's so paradoxical to hear Kyubey's voice on someone as ridiculously cute as Ryuuko. I just can't move on from it :/ |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in."  |
| ^ Whenever I hear Meme talk, I can't help but think of Kyoko. I keep imagining Meme doing a signature head tilt, showing off a cute little fang, and offering me a box of pocky saying "kuu kai?" |
| She died For our sins lol FUKKEN AMAZING thats all |
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| Too bad Denpa is back to Shaft's weird character and plot style... Guess it was one moment of greatness? |
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Omniknight said: Too bad Denpa is back to Shaft's weird character and plot style... Guess it was one moment of greatness? The difference between other shaft works and madoka is gen urobuchi |
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| Just finished it and the ending was kind of a letdown in my opinion. I can totally understand it if people like it that way, but I still have a feeling that something important was missing in this series. |
Omniknight said: It's not bad... it's just weird. Then again, "weirdness" is probably the only thing that's even more subjective than quality.Too bad Denpa is back to Shaft's weird character and plot style... Guess it was one moment of greatness? But again. There's this insanely cute girl, and she's got Kyubey's VA. It freaks me out :S |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in." |
Omniknight said: Too bad Denpa is back to Shaft's weird character and plot style... Guess it was one moment of greatness? Maybe you just need to dig a little deeper to find the true meaning behind it. A lot of people criticise Arakawa Under the Bridge for being weird and thus automatically label it pointless, all because they didn't understand the story. There is more to some things than meet the eye. |
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Vinter said: I think people just label most shaft's works as pointless just because of their trademark style. Many of them have their unique charm hidden under shaft's trademark direction. IMO, shaft has been rather tame lately in comparison to their Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei days.Omniknight said: Too bad Denpa is back to Shaft's weird character and plot style... Guess it was one moment of greatness? Maybe you just need to dig a little deeper to find the true meaning behind it. A lot of people criticise Arakawa Under the Bridge for being weird and thus automatically label it pointless, all because they didn't understand the story. There is more to some things than meet the eye. |
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Lunarachan said: Please no. Just. No. Be realistic.xzomega said: OVA SP, Movie, 2nd Season...all possible. didn't the producer said he was interested in making a spin-off too lawl. I WANT A FREAKING SECOND SEASON. |
werr-y said: Lunarachan said: Please no. Just. No. Be realistic.xzomega said: OVA SP, Movie, 2nd Season...all possible. didn't the producer said he was interested in making a spin-off too lawl. I WANT A FREAKING SECOND SEASON. More than that...as much as any anime I've watched in recent memory, there's absolutely no reason for a second season or any other continuation. Wonderful ending that was definitive. [plug] I wrote a post about the finale of the series and some of its Christian allusions: http://beneaththetangles.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/puella-shoujo-madoka-magica-12-the-hope-we-find/ And here is a list of other interesting posts related to this episode: http://beneaththetangles.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/spirituality-in-the-anime-blogosphere-madoka-madness/ [/plug] |
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| A very good anime with an ok ending. That was my reaction after watching this final episode. To me the ending is a bit confusing and weird, its ok but nothing great. The first 11 episodes were really great, but this one didnt cause that much impact on me as the other 11 did. Still, overall, its a great series. Will give it an 8. |
fr0z3nshad3May 4, 2011 4:29 PM
werr-y said: There's plenty of sidestories announced already. There's no need for a direct second season with exactly the same characters. Madoka's story is over.Lunarachan said: Please no. Just. No. Be realistic.xzomega said: OVA SP, Movie, 2nd Season...all possible. didn't the producer said he was interested in making a spin-off too lawl. I WANT A FREAKING SECOND SEASON. |
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Leon-Gun said: werr-y said: There's plenty of sidestories announced already. There's no need for a direct second season with exactly the same characters. Madoka's story is over.Please no. Just. No. Be realistic. The Oriko manga has Mami,Kyoko,Homura and a new girl,as well as a "cameo" by Madoka,smells like sequel in new Madoka created universe to me. |
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| o_o kinda confused with the ending, but I still liked the anime. :) |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| I really enjoyed the whole show <3 I have to admit, I think the best episode was the tenth, the last two were just 'the ending' XD ... I really loved the tenth. And pleaseee no second season or anything o_O I think it's perfect the way it is now. A second season or whatsoever would kind of destroy it 8'D |
| The Oriko manga is a prequel to the series, but really, the main story is perfectly fine without the extra additions. |
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| I tried to guess the ending like 5-6 times. All failures and yeah...too many tl;dr in this discussion too..lol |
CashdaxMay 5, 2011 7:05 PM
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
| Finally got around to watching this as I gave up on getting it from a good subgroup. Ending was better than I expected. Gonna give this a 9/10 since remembering the first 6 or so episodes makes me facepalm at how terrible the anime was when it started. Madoka's voice was annoying from start to finish too. Still, the show got extremely good in the 2nd half. |
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| Great series, started off slow and quite annoying, turned out to be very good in the last couple of episodes. In the first few episodes, the question a question like "Have you/we met before?" (Madoka/Homura) - This single sentence clued me in on what was going to happen.. and my guess turned out to be correct (Another series had a similar line said at the beginning of the series, I believe maybe Haruhi Suzumiya, which was a hint of things to come). When Akemi's situation was revealed, I immediately thought of Higurashi. Either way, Good series, the end really brought this series up to pace after a slow start, the whole ending was a bit of a "complex stretch" to say the least, but at least I didn't have to re-watch it in order to understand what had just happened. 9/10 for this series. (Maybe it is because I tend to have a knack for guessing/picking up on plots of Movie's/Series, or it was just pure luck - But I just had a feeling right from episode one, that some form of "time-travel/parallel universe" stuff was involved.) |
GaligerMay 8, 2011 5:45 AM
Will you be able to do.... what must be done? |
| Now that I've finished marathoning the full season. I will try to condense my opinions from previous episodes as well. Now onto the final episode Madoka's sudden ascension to god almost seems too convenient. Given that they provided adequate explanation beforehand, she still gained vast amounts of energy. Heck, even enough to recreate the universe (whatever, might as well be good ending than bad). Overall, MSMM has no plot holes, which is good considering all that time travel and wishes. The drama and deaths were appropriate. The desolate while comforting ending certainly beats everyone chatting in school any day. And the Christian allusions were certainly enough to lol about. Despite having mahou shoujos, the atmosphere that this show emits breaks out of the MS sub-genre. Well, not that it matters, as an action/sci-fi piece of work, it's still very solid and leaves viewer with lots to think about. 8/10 (plus minus 1) in my 8 point scale. And now I have to re-assess my top 10 list. |
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| I disagree with there being no plot holes. There's 1, although it seems more like they just decided to ignore the rules for convenience of drama. When Madoka makes the wish to eliminate witches the timeline should have changed inmensely. After all, none of the Magical Girls would have died when they originally did since witches weren't their opponent. That alone should have created enough ripples to completely alter the future. Yet for convenience they decided to keep the timeline exactly the same, with every character existing and alive and even Madoka's family having their kid. The world was basically identical, except for the demons and the lack of Madoka. That completely ignored the current theories on time travel and timeline alteration, rules that the show had even followed before (for example Madoka went from a strong decisive girl to an indecisive crybaby during the course of Homura's time alteration, not to mention Kyouko would not always be in the city, or Sayaka would not always become a magical girl, or die the same way). So yeah, it was a plot hole, although I'm sure the writer knew it was plot hole done for convenience. |
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| The ending was extremely "Meh", it was more then a littlle plot convenience soaked and since Madoka was so useless for the rest of the anime you didn't feel anything over her decision. That said the anime is still great, for the amazing art style that progressively gets darker and for Homura and the red haired one. |
| The only problem I have with this show is the last ep, which made me feel like its a yuri show. |
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Ragna92 said: The only problem I have with this show is the last ep, which made me feel like its a yuri show. You definitely have a yuri-like scene at the end there, but honestly, I feel like the scene where Madoka and Homura embrace is absolutely based on non-sexual love. In fact, it's a scene that shows immense grace. Homura is being saved, just as all the others that the Christ-figure Madoka redeems. But we connect with Homura and see ourselves - someone fragile, but lovely, who tries to do right but ends up doing wrong. She embraces the "sinner" Homura and let's her know that it's all going to be alright - "it doesn't matter how much your errors ended up hurting me," Madoka is saying, "I will still give up my very life for you." That's love. That's grace. And it's the message of hope that makes this series powerful in addition to being creatively fulfilling. |
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| Overall, there was a bittersweet ending but then the entire episode somehow was enough for me to say that it was well enough. |
Can somebody tell me what this says? This was at the last few seconds of the episode. I've been wondering what its saying since Yesy doesn't translate witch language. Other than that, this episode was bittersweet, and I shed tears when even Madoka's mom couldn't remember who she was. |
neonwave said: Can somebody tell me what this says? This was at the last few seconds of the episode. The puella magi wiki is your friend http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Runes:Episode_12 |
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| I bawwwww'd. Oh, did I ever bawwwww. I just I don't have any words. |
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| Holy moly! That was amazing. Great series 9/10. And to quote McRib McRib said: Holy fuck That is all. |
| show was beast. but i dont really watch magical girl shows.... so what got me was homura's mad weapon spree.... that was very explosive. Just wow ;/ |
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| There is one thing I wish was explained. Why does Walpurgis Night look different each time it appears? Also, I am aware of the changes in volume 1 of the Blu-ray. But, it's a question i wonder about sometimes. |
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Homura_Nyan said: I would assume that they decided to change her appearance halfway through but of course they had already used her in episode 1. The BD release of episode 1 uses the same design for the witch that it is used in the last two episodes, although it isn't as detailed for obvious reasons.There is one thing I wish was explained. Why does Walpurgis Night look different each time it appears? Also, I am aware of the changes in volume 1 of the Blu-ray. But, it's a question i wonder about sometimes. |
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Omniknight said: Found on the interwebs. is that picture legit?!?! What episode it's from?!?! EDIT: Found the episode, nvm, it's drawn on... |
AirStylesMay 15, 2011 1:31 PM
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AirStyles said: Omniknight said: Found on the interwebs. is that picture legit?!?! What episode it's from?!?! No it is a photoshop. I think it is from episode 2 or 3. |
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| Homura right till the end! <3 That was a nice realistic way to end the series, since it balanced out the outcome, so there was a new enemy to fight. Like their concept said: The more hope one creates, the same amount of despair is developed. Overall, the anime was well thought out, I enjoyed it very much. |
Homura_Nyan said: There is one thing I wish was explained. Why does Walpurgis Night look different each time it appears? Also, I am aware of the changes in volume 1 of the Blu-ray. But, it's a question i wonder about sometimes. And also why did we have witnessed two color schemes for Oktavia? I mean, look at this: http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Oktavia_von_Seckendorff Seriously, this needs some author explanation as to why things are like this. |
HyperCobaltMax said: Animation mistakes, geez. They are all getting fixed in the BD's (and I'm pretty sure all the mistakes were fixed in the Nico streams as well). It's the same deal that happened with Bakemonogatari where there were tons of fixes and additions in the BD/DVD release.Homura_Nyan said: There is one thing I wish was explained. Why does Walpurgis Night look different each time it appears? Also, I am aware of the changes in volume 1 of the Blu-ray. But, it's a question i wonder about sometimes. And also why did we have witnessed two color schemes for Oktavia? I mean, look at this: http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Oktavia_von_Seckendorff Seriously, this needs some author explanation as to why things are like this. |
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Leon-Gun said: Animation mistakes, geez. They are all getting fixed in the BD's (and I'm pretty sure all the mistakes were fixed in the Nico streams as well). It's the same deal that happened with Bakemonogatari where there were tons of fixes and additions in the BD/DVD release. Except not. Oktavia in the story timeline (eps 8-9) is a subtly different witch than the one in ep10's Timeline 3. She looks basically the same, because it's the same person with generally the same mental state and nature, but the circumstances were subtly different, so her barrier, familiars and subtle appearance features are different, too. |
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kFYatek said: Welli, that teaches me to not re-check the episodes first. I thought for a moment he meant something similar to how Walpurgisnacht's look changed from his appearance in episode 1 and 10 (which if you look at the BD release of episode 1 it was altered so the two episodes look the same again). I offer my apologies for talking too quickly.Leon-Gun said: Animation mistakes, geez. They are all getting fixed in the BD's (and I'm pretty sure all the mistakes were fixed in the Nico streams as well). It's the same deal that happened with Bakemonogatari where there were tons of fixes and additions in the BD/DVD release. Except not. Oktavia in the story timeline (eps 8-9) is a subtly different witch than the one in ep10's Timeline 3. She looks basically the same, because it's the same person with generally the same mental state and nature, but the circumstances were subtly different, so her barrier, familiars and subtle appearance features are different, too. That said, with the final alterations for the BD's, Walpurgis now look exactly the same in all the timelines... welli, as far as I can remember. The only time they ever show her in great detail (as in they show the witch's clothing and face) is during episode 11/12 though. Other than that we just see her in the background and with no details beyond the general shape. |
Leon-GunMay 17, 2011 4:46 AM
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| I liked the way this ended. It was a shockingly dark mahou shojo anime and really appreciated it for that. Watched most of it in one day. |
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Leon-Gun said: That said, with the final alterations for the BD's, Walpurgis now look exactly the same in all the timelines... welli, as far as I can remember. The only time they ever show her in great detail (as in they show the witch's clothing and face) is during episode 11/12 though. Other than that we just see her in the background and with no details beyond the general shape. Walpurgis in ep1 BD and ep10 TL4 has those big "wings" she doesn't have in other timelines. Ep10 TL1 and Ep11/12 versions seem to look the same, though. See the wiki for a visual comparison between ep10's TL1 and TL4. |
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kFYatek said: Hmm, it is true now that I look at it better although it could merely be the dress. It's rather odd they only made her look like that during the one fight that she's not shown up-close.Leon-Gun said: That said, with the final alterations for the BD's, Walpurgis now look exactly the same in all the timelines... welli, as far as I can remember. The only time they ever show her in great detail (as in they show the witch's clothing and face) is during episode 11/12 though. Other than that we just see her in the background and with no details beyond the general shape. Walpurgis in ep1 BD and ep10 TL4 has those big "wings" she doesn't have in other timelines. Ep10 TL1 and Ep11/12 versions seem to look the same, though. See the wiki for a visual comparison between ep10's TL1 and TL4. |
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Ragna92 said: The only problem I have with this show is the last ep, which made me feel like its a yuri show. I expounded on this in a posting, if anyone's interested in reading: Madoka, Homura, and a Yuri Embrace of Grace |
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