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Nov 18, 2014 12:57 AM

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They cut all the heroic scene of Lubbock. You fucked up White Fox.
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Now that i watch the ep again, its really not as bad as people make it out to be.. but people just cant help but be disappointed if they love the manga and wanted to see it animated like that.

I am one of them, I do wish they would have just followed manga and left it open for season 2, but that isnt enough to make me hate the anime. I still think its better than most animes out there, even if it doesnt follow manga exactly now ;(

cant help be disappointed with how they dicked shura tho, his arc had many great moments and helped many characters grow/evolve ... I still hope that the final 4 eps will be decent tho and have good animation. Could still be one of my favorites if the last 4 episodes are epic, thats all i can hope for. ( i at least know theyll give esdeath an epic fight before it ends..)


Lol someone who liked Shura, the guy with the most lame death in that arc xD


i am not saying shura is my favorite character or anything.. just talking about his arc.. wild hunt arc..

I am much more upset about cutting the end of the last arc, with esdeath fight out.. but i know they will give her some good scenes canon or not before it end.
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Nov 18, 2014 2:38 AM

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D3pthCharge said:
^About 5-6 episodes too early... but at least I could say in the manga that Lubbock grew up before he died. He started off as somewhat cowardice but very cunning assassin. But when faced with true adversity he became a brave, loyal assassin who never cried or begged and showcased his true desire to live for the woman he loved and the future he wanted to bring to her.


EXACTLY. THe anime had NONE of that. He died undeveloped and in a most contrived and retarded way
Nov 18, 2014 2:39 AM

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HeidenOvTheNord said:
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Because we like to hope that our favorite scenes are done justicel. And no it doesn't always get worse. Take Attack On Titan for example. Other than some changes in the last couple of episodes it delivered on every front I wanted in terms of an adaptation. Compared to that, AGK is utter trash now


How in the world can you approve of Attack of Titan but not AgK? AoT was cool at first, but then they started what I like to call Drahon Ball Z syndrome, dedicating whole episodes to a single conversation that should have been summed up in 5 minutes. Had to drop that snore fest. AgK moves at one of the best paces I have ever seen in anime. Opinions I guess, huh?


Because that was EXACTLY HOW IT WAS IN THE FUCKIN MANGA. That's why I can approve of it.
Nov 18, 2014 3:36 AM

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Do people really think that they can have a cliffhanger ending and that they can go with the Manga pacing?
Seriously, they can't and thus they have to rush the damn thing. To begin with, did people here really believe that the series would not go Anime Original near the ending? Most Manga adaptations end up like this FFS!
Nov 18, 2014 3:37 AM
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HeidenOvTheNord said:

How in the world can you approve of Attack of Titan but not AgK? AoT was cool at first, but then they started what I like to call Drahon Ball Z syndrome, dedicating whole episodes to a single conversation that should have been summed up in 5 minutes. Had to drop that snore fest. AgK moves at one of the best paces I have ever seen in anime. Opinions I guess, huh?


Because if in AoT would be the same as in AgK, than Mikasa Ackerman, Armin Arlert, Sasha Blouse, Krista Lenz would be all brutally murdered.
Nov 18, 2014 3:54 AM

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"You can't do that." Nice one, Mine.

Shura is merciless and trashy as hell. Now woman annoyed me, stabbing Rabac like that. Dat man was badass there.

And Rabac is dead now... Without even confessing to Najenda. Sigh...

Dat minister really has a screw lose.

It wasn't bad like the thread was making it seem out. Seeing it as an anime-only fan , I would say it was still pretty good. Sure, things are left undeveloped but you know, can't be helped. I am still gonna thank White Fox for animating it. They wouldn't have made this move in the first place if it sold well, so yeah fans got what they invested.
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Nov 18, 2014 5:05 AM
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Sighhhhh

When will people learn that a few (And I mean a few) great moments does not make up for an entire arc full of terrible writing

I dunno whether or not to hate or thank the butthurt people for forcing me to reevaluate my thoughts on my favorite series so that I could come to this conclusion
Nov 18, 2014 5:33 AM

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giraffesyo said:
Everyones talking about the manga in this thread wtf. Anime discussion only. Anyways I haven't read the manga and don't plan to but I liked the way they did this and personally wouldn't have wanted it the way people are saying the manga went.

Oh yes you would. If you like Luddbock than imagine him in the manga, if someone thought of him has a pussy than he or she would be in for a surprise.
Seriously didn't anyone get mad at the skip from the battle at church, from episode 19 to 20? It didn´t make sense whatsoever.
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Hit0kiri said:
Why? The secret plan of the author i simple as hell. To generate buthurt! To generate hate, madness and buthurt among fans. Thats why he brutally kills every good character in this story, and thats why all useless characters and the disgusting super OP bad guys are alive. The studio is just helping him with that by messing up story line. In the end the studio and the author will end under rain of rotten eggs and tomatoes.

You are clearly not bright. The bad guys to count have died more than the good characters, you are just mad because since you liked those characters and they died you have to vent somewhere you can't be so biased. The studio has always are screwing his manga at the last minute because they probably don't want a second season.
Nov 18, 2014 5:39 AM

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Whatt....the hell is going on this episode...
Did they just freaking skip the whole story and jumped into the last chapter of manga?
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Darklight0303 said:
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^About 5-6 episodes too early... but at least I could say in the manga that Lubbock grew up before he died. He started off as somewhat cowardice but very cunning assassin. But when faced with true adversity he became a brave, loyal assassin who never cried or begged and showcased his true desire to live for the woman he loved and the future he wanted to bring to her.


EXACTLY. THe anime had NONE of that. He died undeveloped and in a most contrived and retarded way

Yeah. In my opinion he was already badass but he just didn't show it until that part in the manga and now anime viewers don't know "who" he his. And the prime minister death in the manga was way better. He died alone without nobody hearing him in the most simple way. A fitting death to the despicable garbage he was.
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Snaita said:
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EXACTLY. THe anime had NONE of that. He died undeveloped and in a most contrived and retarded way

Yeah. In my opinion he was already badass but he just didn't show it until that part in the manga and now anime viewers don't know "who" he his. And the prime minister death in the manga was way better. He died alone without nobody hearing him in the most simple way. A fitting death to the despicable garbage he was.


Too true! Died like a maggot alone
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Darklight0303 said:
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Yeah. In my opinion he was already badass but he just didn't show it until that part in the manga and now anime viewers don't know "who" he his. And the prime minister death in the manga was way better. He died alone without nobody hearing him in the most simple way. A fitting death to the despicable garbage he was.


Too true! Died like a maggot alone


I thought the fights this ep were actually pretty good....but i do agree I like manga version better ;( so much more character development so its hard not to feel rushed to us manga readers and hard not to be disappointed.

I agree the manga events, flow of time, and character development are all in a whole another level above that last episode, but that doesnt mean the last 4 cant be pretty good. And I dont think this ep was THAT bad, still better than lots of animes we manga readers just cant help be disappointed after it does this after a faithful adaption.

I do agree with you guys... it shoulda just adapted up to esdeath fight, if never season 2 so what read manga. but its not gonna make me all the sudden hate the show or the last 19 episodes, i still think it will be better than most animes.
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Was an anime only watcher before this episode but even still just experience from watching past anime that went AO Ending route you can tell something is off with this episode. There is hardly any proper transition from where everyone was in episode 19 to episode 20. I thought I was watching the wrong episode for a while. Only a brief mention of Mine and Tatsumi "being different than before" when they were alone fighting Justice-chan is not a proper explanation.

This episode is kind of the reason why AO content has a bad stigma, some AO can be good if done properly but a lot of times it's not even about the content not being 100% true to manga/novel source but simply breaking up the logic that's been set up by the series itself and just having no real consistency. Lubbock, you had a good K/D ratio bro. RIP.

Lubbock's death made me read the manga starting from ch.38 and onwards and I actually would preferred if they stuck more closer to the way it was done there. Yes that "thing" happens to him but the whole point was to show his resolve for not betraying his team which he had nearly perfect reason to after what Shura told him around that time and the way Lubbock was treated by the NR group so far up to that point. That's completely lost in the anime so far. Most captured torture victims would crack right at that moment. He ended up killing Shura anyways and it was pretty clever and cool the way he did it, though it also helped that Shura wasn't thinking clearly at that point because he was at the brink of his daddy/superiority complex issues at that time and was desperate. Again another point not stressed much in the anime besides an earlier episode. Here mostly he just just came off "doing bad things for the lulz/boredom xD!" type mentality only.

One thing that upsets overall in both manga and anime , so far at this point of episode/manga chapters as this post, is that Lubbock's feeling towards Najenda has not really reached her yet. The manga hinted slightly that Najenda may like Lubbock back in a side chapter but that's it. The AO content I hope at least makes her acknowledge his existence properly or his death will be even more sad. He deserves better.

The loose, unchecked spoilers have been pretty bad these past 2-3 episodes so I already knew of Lubbock's death (not exactly how it played out) but it was still BS to watch it play out. I knew that lady was gonna turn on him but, damn. How in the hell did she get back up from a neck slice to execute a perfect stab in the back of Lubbock, I could understand a leg slice or something while she was on the ground still...just ugh. That's the type of stuff usually comes out in AO content and is annoying.

The way Najenda and crew escape from Esdeath's sights unscathed, who's ice powers have been shown to have massive scale and range previously in the series. Getting blue-balled with the potential Wave vs. Night Raid fight. Again the anime not even following its own rules anymore about Imperial Arms users. They better make up for that in the upcoming, few, episodes left for whatever shenanigans they pulled to dodge that situation in the first place. Whatever they do with Wave better be fantastic.
Nov 18, 2014 7:46 AM

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"TATSUMI IS GONNA GET PUBLICLY EXECUTED!?"

"Oh and I guess Lubba is dead."
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Was an anime only watcher before this episode but even still just experience from watching past anime that went AO Ending route you can tell something is off with this episode. There is hardly any proper transition from where everyone was in episode 19 to episode 20. I thought I was watching the wrong episode for a while. Only a brief mention of Mine and Tatsumi "being different than before" when they were alone fighting Justice-chan is not a proper explanation.

This episode is kind of the reason why AO content has a bad stigma, some AO can be good if done properly but a lot of times it's not even about the content not being 100% true to manga/novel source but simply breaking up the logic that's been set up by the series itself and just having no real consistency. Lubbock, you had a good K/D ratio bro. RIP.

Lubbock's death made me read the manga starting from ch.38 and onwards and I actually would preferred if they stuck more closer to the way it was done there. Yes that "thing" happens to him but the whole point was to show his resolve for not betraying his team which he had nearly perfect reason to after what Shura told him around that time and the way Lubbock was treated by the NR group so far up to that point. That's completely lost in the anime so far. Most captured torture victims would crack right at that moment. He ended up killing Shura anyways and it was pretty clever and cool the way he did it, though it also helped that Shura wasn't thinking clearly at that point because he was at the brink of his daddy/superiority complex issues at that time and was desperate. Again another point not stressed much in the anime besides an earlier episode. Here mostly he just just came off "doing bad things for the lulz/boredom xD!" type mentality only.

One thing that upsets overall in both manga and anime , so far at this point of episode/manga chapters as this post, is that Lubbock's feeling towards Najenda has not really reached her yet. The manga hinted slightly that Najenda may like Lubbock back in a side chapter but that's it. The AO content I hope at least makes her acknowledge his existence properly or his death will be even more sad. He deserves better.

The loose, unchecked spoilers have been pretty bad these past 2-3 episodes so I already knew of Lubbock's death (not exactly how it played out) but it was still BS to watch it play out. I knew that lady was gonna turn on him but, damn. How in the hell did she get back up from a neck slice to execute a perfect stab in the back of Lubbock, I could understand a leg slice or something while she was on the ground still...just ugh. That's the type of stuff usually comes out in AO content and is annoying.

The way Najenda and crew escape from Esdeath's sights unscathed, who's ice powers have been shown to have massive scale and range previously in the series. Getting blue-balled with the potential Wave vs. Night Raid fight. Again the anime not even following its own rules anymore about Imperial Arms users. They better make up for that in the upcoming, few, episodes left for whatever shenanigans they pulled to dodge that situation in the first place. Whatever they do with Wave better be fantastic.


I agree with you 100% .. i am still holding out for the last 4 eps to be better though (please)

they really probably shoulda just left shura out he just feels tacked on, maybe have lubba killed by budou..
Nov 18, 2014 7:54 AM
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The loose, unchecked spoilers have been pretty bad these past 2-3 episodes so I already knew of Lubbock's death (not exactly how it played out) but it was still BS to watch it play out. I knew that lady was gonna turn on him but, damn. How in the hell did she get back up from a neck slice to execute a perfect stab in the back of Lubbock, I could understand a leg slice or something while she was on the ground still...just ugh. That's the type of stuff usually comes out in AO content and is annoying.



Also dont understand how the knife peirced in the first place. He wears body armor of wire.
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The loose, unchecked spoilers have been pretty bad these past 2-3 episodes so I already knew of Lubbock's death (not exactly how it played out) but it was still BS to watch it play out. I knew that lady was gonna turn on him but, damn. How in the hell did she get back up from a neck slice to execute a perfect stab in the back of Lubbock, I could understand a leg slice or something while she was on the ground still...just ugh. That's the type of stuff usually comes out in AO content and is annoying.



Also dont understand how the knife peirced in the first place. He wears body armor of wire.


He used all the wire to get shura, so he had no wire to protect himself, that part wasn't a problem in this butcher episode
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EXACTLY. THe anime had NONE of that. He died undeveloped and in a most contrived and retarded way

Yeah. In my opinion he was already badass but he just didn't show it until that part in the manga and now anime viewers don't know "who" he his. And the prime minister death in the manga was way better. He died alone without nobody hearing him in the most simple way. A fitting death to the despicable garbage he was.


I agree to that. Lubbock dying like that didn't make much of an impact. This episode feels like it is rushed
Nov 18, 2014 9:05 AM
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It's kinda funny seeing the manga readers raging. I bet they're really pissed that they can't spoil anymore. As someone who has been spoiled in the past, I'm happy with the "Kill the Manga Readers" title. Good going, White Fox.
Nov 18, 2014 9:13 AM

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It's kinda funny seeing the manga readers raging. I bet they're really pissed that they can't spoil anymore. As someone who has been spoiled in the past, I'm happy with the "Kill the Manga Readers" title. Good going, White Fox.


You enjoy your inferior version of the story then
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Darklight0303 said:
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It's kinda funny seeing the manga readers raging. I bet they're really pissed that they can't spoil anymore. As someone who has been spoiled in the past, I'm happy with the "Kill the Manga Readers" title. Good going, White Fox.


You enjoy your inferior version of the story then


Will be happy too, as long as Manga spoilers don't have anything to do anymore. ^^
Nov 18, 2014 9:43 AM

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Its going to be funny when Tatsumi gets whooped by Esdeath even though he fought evenly with Gen Bodu(who is Esdeath tier). They're going to kill/defeat her in the most BS matter like how filler Clare beat filler Priscilla.
Nov 18, 2014 10:23 AM

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RIP Lubbock. :(
Damn......poor guy.....I really wanted to see him and Najanda once more together. ;_;
*Sigh*.
At least the Emperor's son died, right? o-o
He didn't even care that his son died LOL!

Anyways........I wonder what's gonna happen next episode? All I can really think of now is that Esdeath is the final battle......and probably that Electric Imperial Arms dude. (I haven't read the manga so I wouldn't know! XD)
Nov 18, 2014 10:29 AM

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Also dont understand how the knife peirced in the first place. He wears body armor of wire.


He used all the wire to get shura, so he had no wire to protect himself, that part wasn't a problem in this butcher episode


mfw Infinite uses Cross tail ran out of wires...
Nov 18, 2014 12:02 PM

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What I dont get is why would complaining about a original ending do anything? and this is old news now.
RIP LUBBA
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Fuck this shit


pretty much yes T^T T^T T^T
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bastek66 said:
Fuck this shit


pretty much yes T^T T^T T^T

But... but... he doesn't seem to be in pain!
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Why are you all acting as if this series was any good before this point in the first place? All it is is a bunch of underdeveloped excuses of 'characters' and overly edgy and cliche villains fighting and killing each other simply for shock factor and make the viewers go 'oh my godd' for a moment then realize how shallow and predictable everything is.
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Why are you all acting as if this series was any good before this point in the first place? All it is is a bunch of underdeveloped excuses of 'characters' and overly edgy and cliche villains fighting and killing each other simply for shock factor and make the viewers go 'oh my godd' for a moment then realize how shallow and predictable everything is.


Your Point???
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Its going to be funny when Tatsumi gets whooped by Esdeath even though he fought evenly with Gen Bodu(who is Esdeath tier). They're going to kill/defeat her in the most BS matter like how filler Clare beat filler Priscilla.


Yeah, as evenly as when Pretimeskip Luffy fought Aokiji or Mihawk, lol.

As for Esdeath, that will depend, if Akame is part of the fight next week, then Esdeath is dying, the anime has implied she will be the one who kills her.

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Wow... It's enough that Lubbock only had like 5% screen-time the entire anime being one of the best characters, but the rest of Night Raid only care about Tatsumi apparently. *See Lubba's goggles, only say "Oh no Tatsumi!"* Poor guy, seriously.. Tatsumi this, Tatsumi that.. I'm kinda sick of it. This Anime has been going very downhill. I'm gonna have to read the manga for this to be saved.
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Wow... It's enough that Lubbock only had like 5% screen-time the entire anime being one of the best characters, but the rest of Night Raid only care about Tatsumi apparently. *See Lubba's goggles, only say "Oh no Tatsumi!"* Poor guy, seriously.. Tatsumi this, Tatsumi that.. I'm kinda sick of it. This Anime has been going very downhill. I'm gonna have to read the manga for this to be saved.


Lol. Appreciate the dead, but comfort the living applies here.
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Another favourite character gone... No point getting attached to any more, they're probably all going to die anyway :T
Mine does not deserve Tatsumi, she doesn't have a good enough backstory, but Esdeath on the other hand :DD
Nov 18, 2014 4:27 PM

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After reading some of the manga chapters after episode 19 and reading the battle with Esdeath, this is just kinda...idk. 'Meh' I guess? It could be worse but I still wish they stuck with the source material.
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Just thought I'd leave this here:
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This felt off and I'm not even a manga reader...


Was it really that hard to just end things on cliff hanger or something like Attack on Titan and have season 2 in 3 or so years?

Why repeat the fate of Claymore? We all know how much anime original ending sucked there.
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Just thought I'd leave this here:

But this picture portrays opposite opinion. He said "Oh, well (my son is dead, I need to make new one)". Mangareaders aren't so forgiving.
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What I dont get is why would complaining about a original ending do anything? and this is old news now.
RIP LUBBA


Yeah I am a manga reader but I don't think its as bad now, I was disappointed at first of course but now I am just going to enjoy both the anime and manga seperately.

I watched it with a couple of my buddies who have been watching it but havent read manga and they all really enjoyed it as well having no idea if it differed from manga or not.
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LoomyTheBrew said:
Just thought I'd leave this here:

But this picture portrays opposite opinion. He said "Oh, well (my son is dead, I need to make new one)". Mangareaders aren't so forgiving.


Hahahahaha.
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Lubba was the only night raid member I liked. XD well this slightly sucks.
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RIP green haired guy, he was easily one of my favorites. But I understand the point of Akame now, the facebook post title (all I bothered to read) said there was a deeper meaning to it, and that the meaning is the futility of violence, which totally makes sense, obviously the writing isn't perfect etc, but overall its still an enjoyable show.

also did the son of the fat advisor guy or whatever he is called, he had that tannline face with a big X just like the guy in full metal alchemist, also he was talking about shurima or some shit, which they had in full metal as well... am i missing something here?
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man i was really hoping that none of the other members were gonna die. Sucks that it had to be Lubbock, he was one of my faves.


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Damn what a harsh way for Lubbock to die on and no cared about that. What the hell. It's only Tatsumi fag that's important. Damn, this guy likes to kill off characters. This anime had much more potential than this. Wtd? dude, u are killing them way too sooon.

and just how did he die anyway. I were confused there. Did Shura left a trap or was it something else. for me it looked like he got killed by the spears of the soldiers around. plz someone explain just how did he die? :/

Edit: I guess those bastard soliders killed him after all. Damn, come one, that's just lame. They made him into a useless character. Getting killed by some spears of some low ranking soldiers. wtf is this shit??!!
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Just thought I'd leave this here:

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What the hell, they skipped like 10 chapters in that episode. The anime is trying really hard to catch up with the manga isn't it? Above all, both depictions of Lubbock's death were pretty damn stupid.


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bastek66 said:
LoomyTheBrew said:
Just thought I'd leave this here:

But this picture portrays opposite opinion. He said "Oh, well (my son is dead, I need to make new one)". Mangareaders aren't so forgiving.
"Oh well, got to wait for Akame ga Kill:Brotherhood then..."

My reaction
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Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain.

We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us
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Eh, the character design for the Commander-in-Chief is a little silly IMO. He sounds like a cool semi-honorable dude, but his look reminds me of a Pikachu head coming out of a mecha.
Also, how many freaking "elite groups" are gonna get introduced?? Just make one, and don't kill off half of its members every episode! And poof, longevity!
Anyway, Shura's power is pretty dope.
I kinda knew Lubba was gonna go down, as soon as a Night Raid member starts doing something cool, about 1-2 episodes later they get offed.
The Mine-Leone thing about Tatsumi reminds me a little of Eri-Suou about Harima, in a good way.
Oh My God, I LOL'd so hard at the Minister's reaction to his son's death. 0 f***s were given.
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