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| This last story arc was a fucking train wreck. |
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| when Ellen caught the flying knife that was the best thing in the whole damn series. Can't the dude live in peace? Did you really have to kill him off? |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Unexpected ending, Zwei died with an unknown assassin. Whereas Ellen or Ein died by committing suicide eating poisonous flowers? |
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| Fitting ending and made up for the lackluster showdown with the Zahlen Sisters. Plot was very cheesy tbh and I don't even mind since it managed to be pretty entertaining nonetheless or rather because of it. In regards to the characters, I would like to say that they were genuinely good, but I merely liked them on a conceptual level. 5,5/10 or maybe a 6/10 |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I honestly didn’t have a problem with the ending. Both characters got what they wanted and died after as punishment for all the harm they caused. It’s fine. My issue is the quality drop after the first arc. The relationship between reiji and eren was the most interesting thing in the show, how they develop as characters and the shared guilt they felt for killing so many people. The problem is that they “killed” eren so quickly, and then introduced us to Cal. While I didn’t mind Cal when she was 12 as it served as good character development for Reiji as the episodes went on, i didn't appreciate the complete tonal shift of the show from a depressing one to a more cheery one. And aside from Cal being a device for Reiji's character, I didn’t care much about her as her own character either. And this grew double when she came back as a 14 year old. There was no purpose to her character after the fire besides this weird, forced vengeance plot for leaving her to die even though reiji had no control over any of that. I would’ve rather focus that screen time on the other phantoms scythe master was making, where he hyped them up as stronger than our two main phantoms, yet were taken out so easily and quickly. Or more character growth with reiji and eren (the latter of which wasn't sufficiently developed in my opinion). I also don't understand what Claudia's plan was. All she did throughout the show was drive like a madwoman, sexually harass an underage boy while ordering him around, and then died in the sappiest way possible. Can someone explain what her purpose was? I also wish there were more scenes with the phantoms wearing their masks and hunting. The show was okay, but i honestly was underwhelmed overall. |
AlfonseMar 10, 2020 11:25 PM
| I guess they lost their purpose after fulfilling Elen's past dream about her identity. Running away forever doesn't seem to be a happy end anyway. They will grow old and the organization would still go after them. It was a place where they decided to end everything. |
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| The show lost a lot of steam after the first arc, and the third arc was pretty damn bad. The only interesting characters throughout the show were Ein and Claudia. Claudia got killed off screen in the second arc in a very unsatisfying way and Ein was pretty much dropped throughout the second arc and didn't do much in the third either. Inferno also played a massive role in the first two arcs, but they were suddenly dropped in the third? Like, what the hell. Why the hell did we spend so much time listening to their boring meetings, jeez. I did find Ein's ending to be very satisfying, even though the random murder of Reiji almost ruined it. This was the last show by Urobuchi which I hadn't seen yet and ultimately I'm disappointed. This could have been so much more. 5.5/10 |
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| Show started of really well then just got slower and boring in the final arc and episodes. It was a decent VN adaptation, all things considered since the VN had multiple endings and a lot more character development and depth. The anime ending is completely justified (albeit different from the LN) Elen and Reiji killed a lot of people, and they would never have escaped from Inferno. While Elen's fate is ambiguous. I'm fairly certain she died since her reason for staying alive was Reiji, who had also died. |
| Naaaah bad ending :( |
| The ending I was hoping for was supposed to be a great happy ending but NO! The author killed him, seriously, maybe the author despised happy ending... I don't know and that is sick in a negative way. There was never a happy ending in this show the moment Cal was killed (even though its obvious). Such tragedy. There wasn't even a story of killing the head / master of the "Inferno" and it may never will. Such bad taste or I simply picked a wrong story. However, despite all the things I said, I got entertained quite well but the downfall of my hype was because of that very ending scene, I really can't get over it at the moment. 😔 The only thing that kept me going (watching this) was about the love between Ein and Zwei. While I would give this a 8/10, it became 7/10 for the bad after taste. There wasn't even an adaptation (whether the source is available or not) for the main characters back stories, heck, even the antagonist doesn't have the luxury for it. What I meant about these statements are their parents, siblings and friends before they even became an assassin This having a large score is overrated in my very humble opinion but I do agree watching how they grow is very enjoyable nonetheless. |
ASinfulPersonageJun 24, 2021 6:08 AM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Overall a good anime but that last arc was a horrible, horrible mess, the tone felt so inconsistent compared to the first episodes. I could've given a 9/10 but these last 7 episodes... ugh. |
eblf2013Jan 21, 2023 8:25 AM
 MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
| So everyone dies, I guess? It was originally a Nitroplus VN, so it's to be expected. This anime started out so well, but kept messing up where it counts. |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ╔⏤═⏤╝   ╚⏤═⏤╗☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
| What a depressing anime. I liked it even though it lacks in most of the aspects especially storytelling was average. I really wanted cal and reiji be good together again but it didn't happen T_T They got rid of all phantom members in the end which means i guess ein died too. This was a type of anime that shouldn't have a good ending anyway imo. |
defaulticusMar 24, 2024 10:20 AM
| This was cruel, sad, i dont know what to say They did have to do my cal and reji |
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| What a beautifully crafted piece of art! Loved every single episode and arc. Everything including the story, cinematography, and music, all were top-notch. Ein was finally able to overcome her "master's" manipulation and gave him a deserving end. Such a kind heart she had, she still wept for him. And the ending...I mean it's certainly fitting for such a show, but i just can't or don't wanna imagine what they actually portrayed at the end. One can certainly go on YouTube like I did and watch the good ending for the visual novel and make it your head-canon. But still, I wanted to give it a try, so here it is. I urge you to read what I wrote underneath and rewatch the ending scene. This time, you'll find solace instead of sorrow (: It was Reiji who shot the cart guy, as his one hand was in his pocket. He sensed the danger and put an end to that threat while still gazing at Eren and the smile that he so desperately wanted on her. Then he falls on the ground from the sheer excitement of finally fulfilling one promise in his life; making Eren truly smile from genuine happiness. Then Reiji starts rolling down the hill towards Eren. She notices that and lies on the grass as well, awaiting Reiji to finally reach her, while she continues gazing at her home sky> 4:43 AM, 19/12/24 |
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What a beautifully crafted piece of art! Loved every single episode and arc. Everything including the story, cinematography, and music, all were top-notch. Ein was finally able to overcome her "master's" manipulation and gave him a deserving end. Such a kind heart she had, she still wept for him. And the ending...I mean it's certainly fitting for such a show, but i just can't or don't wanna imagine what they actually portrayed at the end. One can certainly go on YouTube like I did and watch the good ending for the visual novel and make it your head-canon. But still, I wanted to give it a try, so here it is. I urge you to read what I wrote underneath and rewatch the ending scene. This time, you'll find solace instead of sorrow (:
It was Reiji who shot the cart guy, as his one hand was in his pocket. He sensed the danger and put an end to that threat while still gazing at Eren and the smile that he so desperately wanted on her. Then he falls on the ground from the sheer excitement of finally fulfilling one promise in his life; making Eren truly smile from genuine happiness. Then Reiji starts rolling down the hill towards Eren. She notices that and lies on the grass as well, awaiting Reiji to finally reach her, while she continues gazing at her home sky> 4:43 AM, 19/12/24
It was Reiji who shot the cart guy, as his one hand was in his pocket. He sensed the danger and put an end to that threat while still gazing at Eren and the smile that he so desperately wanted on her. Then he falls on the ground from the sheer excitement of finally fulfilling one promise in his life; making Eren truly smile from genuine happiness. Then Reiji starts rolling down the hill towards Eren. She notices that and lies on the grass as well, awaiting Reiji to finally reach her, while she continues gazing at her home sky> 4:43 AM, 19/12/24
| @lonewatcher565 So you pretty much rate everything 10... Try Seirei no Moribito as well I think you will love it too. |
| What a weird anime. I expected everything else, but them just randomly getting killed in the last 20 seconds? LMAO. So, I searched. Apparently the VN differs in this regard, with Reiji and Eren living happily-ever-after. No guesses for why it differs here from me. The start (1-9) was great, then it proceeded to be absolute dogshit (10-19) and ended mediocre (20-26). Shitton of plotholes, stuff that happens just for the sake of it - either for a dramatic effect, shock-value or just because. Logic is lacking in some aspects. Even considering original Urobuchi's ending, I don't think it's a good title. 5/10. |
ryylszMay 21, 7:27 AM
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What a weird anime.
I expected everything else, but them just randomly getting killed in the last 20 seconds? LMAO.
So, I searched. Apparently the VN differs in this regard, with Reiji and Eren living happily-ever-after. No guesses for why it differs here from me.
The start (1-9) was great, then it proceeded to be absolute dogshit (10-19) and ended mediocre (20-26).
Shitton of plotholes, stuff that happens just for the sake of it - either for a dramatic effect, shock-value or just because. Logic is lacking in some aspects.
Even considering original Urobuchi's ending, I don't think it's a good title. 5/10.
I expected everything else, but them just randomly getting killed in the last 20 seconds? LMAO.
So, I searched. Apparently the VN differs in this regard, with Reiji and Eren living happily-ever-after. No guesses for why it differs here from me.
The start (1-9) was great, then it proceeded to be absolute dogshit (10-19) and ended mediocre (20-26).
Shitton of plotholes, stuff that happens just for the sake of it - either for a dramatic effect, shock-value or just because. Logic is lacking in some aspects.
Even considering original Urobuchi's ending, I don't think it's a good title. 5/10.
| @xryls I see you lack a bit in the department of comprehension, so let me help you. First of all it was only Reiji who was killed, it should be obvious from the sound of single gunshot and from the scene where it shows a single bullet case. It is implied that Elen committed suicide by eating a poisonous flower after Reiji's death. And Reiji's death wasn't exactly random as it has been foreshadowed with the opening title of the anime, appropriately named Karma, and there is the fact Inferno was still looking for him after his apparent betrayal, and it's shown to be a very versatile organization about getting what it wants. As for the VN ending difference, unlike what you think/read there is NOT a single ending in VN, but multiple endings, as it's the case for pretty much for majority of VNs. If you want to check it out a user listed all the endings from the VN here. Last but not least, this is purely an action anime, seeking logic here is as pointless as seeking logic in a John Wick movie. The story pretty much exists for the sole reason of carrying characters from one action scene to another, or to one dramatic scene to another one in some cases. There is also an OVA adaptation of the VN as well and while I haven't wacthed it I doubt yoU'd like it any better. If the structure of this action show bothers you that much I'd strongly recommend you avoid watching Black Lagoon. |
JoeChip said: I see you lack a bit in the department of comprehension, so let me help you. First of all it was only Reiji who was killed, it should be obvious from the sound of single gunshot and from the scene where it shows a single bullet case. It is implied that Elen committed suicide by eating a poisonous flower after Reiji's death. And Reiji's death wasn't exactly random as it has been foreshadowed with the opening title of the anime, appropriately named Karma, and there is the fact Inferno was still looking for him after his apparent betrayal, and it's shown to be a very versatile organization about getting what it wants. As for the VN ending difference, unlike what you think/read there is NOT a single ending in VN, but multiple endings, as it's the case for pretty much for majority of VNs. If you want to check it out a user listed all the endings from the VN here. Last but not least, this is purely an action anime, seeking logic here is as pointless as seeking logic in a John Wick movie. The story pretty much exists for the sole reason of carrying characters from one action scene to another, or to one dramatic scene to another one in some cases. There is also an OVA adaptation of the VN as well and while I haven't wacthed it I doubt yoU'd like it any better. If the structure of this action show bothers you that much I'd strongly recommend you avoid watching Black Lagoon. @JoeChip I meant that they were killed by the author. Still, I actually have no problem with that, I think it generally fits the tone of the anime. It was kind of abrupt, that's all. I'm aware about vn's different endings. Anime is based on Elen's route, which, also according to the article you provided, does feature the scene on the field with the sole difference of them not dying there. I disagree. While I believe that action shows aren't obligated to have a deep plot, logic should be present. For comparison, I'll cite Darker Than Black - a quite similar to Phantom: Requiem title, which, despite its action-seinen nature with an emphasis on superpowers, has a logical narrative and pacing. The OVA adaption is incomplete and features only the first chapter of the VN. If I were to get deeper into this title, I'd just read the VN itself. |
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JoeChip said:
I see you lack a bit in the department of comprehension, so let me help you.
First of all it was only Reiji who was killed, it should be obvious from the sound of single gunshot and from the scene where it shows a single bullet case. It is implied that Elen committed suicide by eating a poisonous flower after Reiji's death. And Reiji's death wasn't exactly random as it has been foreshadowed with the opening title of the anime, appropriately named Karma, and there is the fact Inferno was still looking for him after his apparent betrayal, and it's shown to be a very versatile organization about getting what it wants.
As for the VN ending difference, unlike what you think/read there is NOT a single ending in VN, but multiple endings, as it's the case for pretty much for majority of VNs. If you want to check it out a user listed all the endings from the VN here.
Last but not least, this is purely an action anime, seeking logic here is as pointless as seeking logic in a John Wick movie. The story pretty much exists for the sole reason of carrying characters from one action scene to another, or to one dramatic scene to another one in some cases. There is also an OVA adaptation of the VN as well and while I haven't wacthed it I doubt yoU'd like it any better.
If the structure of this action show bothers you that much I'd strongly recommend you avoid watching Black Lagoon.
I see you lack a bit in the department of comprehension, so let me help you.
First of all it was only Reiji who was killed, it should be obvious from the sound of single gunshot and from the scene where it shows a single bullet case. It is implied that Elen committed suicide by eating a poisonous flower after Reiji's death. And Reiji's death wasn't exactly random as it has been foreshadowed with the opening title of the anime, appropriately named Karma, and there is the fact Inferno was still looking for him after his apparent betrayal, and it's shown to be a very versatile organization about getting what it wants.
As for the VN ending difference, unlike what you think/read there is NOT a single ending in VN, but multiple endings, as it's the case for pretty much for majority of VNs. If you want to check it out a user listed all the endings from the VN here.
Last but not least, this is purely an action anime, seeking logic here is as pointless as seeking logic in a John Wick movie. The story pretty much exists for the sole reason of carrying characters from one action scene to another, or to one dramatic scene to another one in some cases. There is also an OVA adaptation of the VN as well and while I haven't wacthed it I doubt yoU'd like it any better.
If the structure of this action show bothers you that much I'd strongly recommend you avoid watching Black Lagoon.
@JoeChip
I meant that they were killed by the author. Still, I actually have no problem with that, I think it generally fits the tone of the anime. It was kind of abrupt, that's all.
I'm aware about vn's different endings. Anime is based on Elen's route, which, also according to the article you provided, does feature the scene on the field with the sole difference of them not dying there.
I disagree. While I believe that action shows aren't obligated to have a deep plot, logic should be present. For comparison, I'll cite Darker Than Black - a quite similar to Phantom: Requiem title, which, despite its action-seinen nature with an emphasis on superpowers, has a logical narrative and pacing.
The OVA adaption is incomplete and features only the first chapter of the VN. If I were to get deeper into this title, I'd just read the VN itself.
xryls said: I disagree. While I believe that action shows aren't obligated to have a deep plot, logic should be present. For comparison, I'll cite Darker Than Black - a quite similar to Phantom: Requiem title, Darker than Balack is a sci-fi show mixed with action whereas Phantom is purely an action anime, as ı said before, they are hardly similar in most regards other than being about assassins and having action in their genre, though one of them have it as the main genre and the other one as the secondary genre. This is very much like comparing John Wick film to a film like Tenet, they are both action but very much different from each other. One of them is largely based on a logic whereas the other one is pretty much onşy cares abouut looking cool and being exciting. Black Lagoon is another pure action anime like Phantom and that's why I topld you to avid it as it's not your thing, obviously. |
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