86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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Morsse said: Hmm, deaths are brushed off pretty easily now...Maybe they'll recollect them in the next episode. It's laughable to see how the Major is the only one that actually cares for them and sticks with them after realizing that they're human. Aren't the other people that use the PARA-RAID aswell, realizing that the units are humans aswell? I mean, even in a world where almost everyone is a white haired doofus, you would think that there are people intelligent enough that caught on the units human like behaviour through curiosity, or they just simply asked and had a conversation like the Major does with 86.. Or they actually do and then they pee themselves and give up on the post? So why doesn't anyone else seem to say something or take action, besides the Major? Even if you're brainwashed to think that they're androids fighting for your ass, you'd use your 2 neurons to think for yourself, rather than eating what your teacher is preparing for you.. I'm curious to see where they get the replacements from... My guess for now is that they have a sex factory where they abuse normal people to create new soldiers.. Or maybe the population of normal people hasn't gone extinct yet and they just choose the ones that actually survive the tests/training. Kinda frustrating that her uncle doesn't atleast give her a fair reason for why she shouldn't get closer with the 86, besides "Don't get close to the 86". "They're aliens"... It's even more rude knowing that she was saved by one of those "aliens" and he knows that she's aware of their existence but he acts like they're a danger even though they literally use them as guinea pigs... Typical douchebag. I more or less feel you on this. The military here is waaaaaaay too inept. See, I didn't take issue with this in the previous episodes because the premise is, this war is ending in 2 years. So, I just thought, ok, anime logic will be anime logic, so I'll forgive this for now. But now we see, nope, not two years, it gonna stretch longer. So... how is an entire military just ignoring it? Even in peacetime, I'm pretty sure military groups are still keeping discipline and the idea that it might stretch longer shouldn't be new? At least consider the possibility? That's what a good commander will do? And I have definitely wondered if it was odd that Lena is the only one who seems to realize they are humans. On one hand, we don't have enough details on how long the brainwashing is going on, nor what lies people were exactly fed. But uh... now, I definitely feel maybe this should be re-examined. I've been giving this bit the benefit of the doubt. |
| There's no inherent right or wrong in this universe, but when we think with emotions rather than logic, we make things so. |
| Fantastic episode. That cherry blossom viewing was actually really gorgeously animated and that while on the battlefield. I am impressed. It was nice to see Keia again for a moment, but overall that group was massive. So many faces that we hadn't seen yet, which only means that they had already passed before Lena became their commander. As nice as that cherry blossom sequence was, it quickly followed with some tragic event. RIP Daiya and Rekka. Didn't expect Daiya to go so soon, but when I think about it now, the death flag was pretty obvious. Poor Anju left all alone and traumatized. Honestly that Lena blush near the end was gold. |
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| Wow the members are sure dropping like flies but gotta give props because the author has balls to kill of cast which let's be honest is more realistic. (unlike in SnK where most of the major cast lived and only scrubs died usually....) Lena supporting the 86 this much will likely bite her in the ass later but at least there is a reason to develop her romance. I am assuming she will eventually meet Shin and the rest who manages to stay alive. (possibly getting thrown on the battlefield as punishment maybe?) |
| That scene with Lena at the end was pretty cute kind of a sweet end to the episode |
| Fuck... This show is breaking my heart. |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
Morsse said: Hmm, deaths are brushed off pretty easily now...Maybe they'll recollect them in the next episode. It's laughable to see how the Major is the only one that actually cares for them and sticks with them after realizing that they're human. Aren't the other people that use the PARA-RAID aswell, realizing that the units are humans aswell? I mean, even in a world where almost everyone is a white haired doofus, you would think that there are people intelligent enough that caught on the units human like behaviour through curiosity, or they just simply asked and had a conversation like the Major does with 86.. Or they actually do and then they pee themselves and give up on the post? So why doesn't anyone else seem to say something or take action, besides the Major? Even if you're brainwashed to think that they're androids fighting for your ass, you'd use your 2 neurons to think for yourself, rather than eating what your teacher is preparing for you.. I'm curious to see where they get the replacements from... My guess for now is that they have a sex factory where they abuse normal people to create new soldiers.. Or maybe the population of normal people hasn't gone extinct yet and they just choose the ones that actually survive the tests/training. Kinda frustrating that her uncle doesn't atleast give her a fair reason for why she shouldn't get closer with the 86, besides "Don't get close to the 86". "They're aliens"... It's even more rude knowing that she was saved by one of those "aliens" and he knows that she's aware of their existence but he acts like they're a danger even though they literally use them as guinea pigs... Typical douchebag. You missed the point. The Albas in the military know that there are "human" inside the mech from the start. But they convince themself that the 86 are "pigs", so they don't feel bad about sending them to die. Like in WW2, somehow the German convinced themself that Jews are subhuman, so they were free to commit genocide. |
Morsse said: Just_Chicken said: You missed the point. The Albas in the military know that there are "human" inside the mech from the start. But they convince themself that the 86 are "pigs", so they don't feel bad about sending them to die. Like in WW2, somehow the German convinced themself that Jews are subhuman, so they were free to commit genocide. Isn't the 86 thinking of Albas as "white pigs"? The Albas are brainwashed into thinking that the units are "tools/not humans" forced to not be given names. If the Albas know that the 86 and other units are humans, the why did the Major have to tell the juniors that the units are actually humans with a heart and a brain that fight for them to protect their "paradise"... Heck, even the Major had to actually experience being saved by one and be in touch with an actual unit for a longer period to realize they were human all along... Like I said in my post, Albas consider the 86 as some kind of "brainless/android" type of thing. Like I said, the Albas considrer themselves "human", and the 86 as subhuman (pig, brainless, whatever term you want to use). So they don't have to feel guity about commiting genocide. In 1940s Germany, do you really think that the German didn't know that Jews were also human? The Jews were their friends/neighbors/co-workers at some point. But somehow the Holocaust happened. Same things here. |
Just_ChickenMay 15, 2021 4:43 PM
| Can anyone eexplain to mee the new threat from the previous episode? How the Legion might not ceased to function and the Alba might lose the war? And why on this episode none of that was mmentioned specially to Lena's uncle |
Snaita said: Can anyone eexplain to mee the new threat from the previous episode? How the Legion might not ceased to function and the Alba might lose the war? And why on this episode none of that was mmentioned specially to Lena's uncle 1. They would not believe. The story behind the legion is already pretty wild, and to hear it from an 86er, the alba who who have been stuck in their ways for 9 years won’t simply believe it. They would think he’s trying to undermine them. Even more so if it’s coming from a sympathizer with the 86er. Her uncle already puts her down each time she tries to make a case for the 86. 2. More importantly, revealing shin’s ability in the process would lead to the republic experimenting on him and ultimately using him as a lab rat which more or less could get him killed. Lena does not wish that. Refer to annette’s convo with lena in this episode. About para-raid: All lena can do is put here connections and power to use to convince the republic to authorize use of the artillery and boost reinforcements and supplies, justifying it as important for the nations defense and war potential. |
Shishou_23May 17, 2021 1:03 AM
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| Rest in piece :( I wasn't expecting that at all and I wish it wasn't true but the world is harsh. That blush scene at the end was super cute though |
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Datenshi_Kyrus said: ThousandCuts said: I don't even remember how Daiya died in the LN and I honestly didn't even expect the humanoid type legion to be introduced this early. That's because his death was barely even mentioned in the LN. It was literally just mentioned after a skip in time that he'd died recently, we never saw anything involved with it. The fact that they took the time to show his death makes me really happy this anime exists, it was one of my big irks with the first Volume that we never saw his death. Yeah it's a nice touch for them to actually give them death scenes, in the LN after the time-skip |
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| This hit hard T.T Mod Note: Removed screenshots(only one permitted) |
dipItFooMay 16, 2021 5:42 PM
KapengBarako said: Datenshi_Kyrus said: That's because his death was barely even mentioned in the LN. It was literally just mentioned after a skip in time that he'd died recently, we never saw anything involved with it. The fact that they took the time to show his death makes me really happy this anime exists, it was one of my big irks with the first Volume that we never saw his death. Yeah it's a nice touch for them to actually give them death scenes, in the LN after the time-skip Yeah, it kinda annoyed me to see that |
| It's rare for me to see an anime go from good to outstanding in so few episodes,but 86 has managed that and more. Sometimes,I can feel a tear in the corner of my eye from the exceptional way this has at pulling heartstrings,with the animation,the voice acting,and esp the use of music. I can say at this moment,I am glad I'm around to watch and listen to this superb season.(I'm not being crass when I say that,since a friend of mine isn't around to see this,and since it was him who really got me into anime,manga and japanese culture,and I can safely say he would've loved every second of this) My thanks to all involved at A-1 Pictures for this,I look forward to more. |
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| Lena -- oh my heart, you're so cute haha. I'm surprised how much I love her reactions, usually dislike hate seeing flustered moments because they can be cringey, but that was too precious. That girl knows she's in love (probably) even though the slightest idea of PDA is too much. I hope she can help Shin get out of his mind a little. I'm surprised how much I am warming up to this series. I really thought this would be a B-tier anime; the episodes are too short :l, but it's been executed perfectly. I love how this episode really humanizes the 86, but also stirs my heart without forcing me to go through each side characters backstory. (Especially since they're quote on quote expendable.) I can see Lena's improvement as a Handler also improving as well. Major respect for her to stick around for the killing of a comrade. |
| was wondering who it'd be to die this week not another cute girl and Diaya , starting to think their wont be much left of them at this rate /s i'm also feeling like the whole jumping around is not really working anymore with how predicable it's getting it worked well at the start , even if it's suppose to be deliberately jarring it's effecting the flow don't even get me started on the incompetency of the military and this goes beyond "this sucks why aren't they taking this more seriously" , know they got time to explore this part but right now i could really use at least one other person caring about the actions of the legion and what if the war goes on longer like self-preservation. is a thing lol |
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| I think I'm starting to realize why Anette's relationships never last. Girl's attitude is unbearable as hell. Another average episode. Two more members of the squad died but again, I never felt anything particular towards both characters so that's that. Daiya's only character feature was to be a lame Anju simp and until this episode, I didn't know Rekka even existed. Also, it seems this series will be featuring romance as well. Yeah, not sure what to think of it yet. |
| Well, after trapped at the unknown wetland area previously, spearhead squadron trapped under heavy artillery bombardment from the legion inside that locked areas. The legion used a new approaching against them, and easily ripped another casualties from the spearhead squadron. They still used the same 'happy first' transition and 'reaper' foreshadowing like before. The two new victim got a little farewell flashback and screen time before finished their duty here. Interesting that they called the same reaper before really gone. Well, thats the burden Shin should've carried at his empty shoulders. While Saori voice under Anju character suits well with that kind of situation. Welp .... Also, more Shin backstory. His brother really left a headless skeleton back there and Shin kinda haunted by the trauma. Even though there might be some more hidden story behind it. Lena interaction with Shin kinda break the tension and emotional scene previously. Her pov obviously cute af, and the way the chocolate pointing out that shape. The show already ship them 6 episodes in. Good break, and good luck at the next attacking but risked mission, you both. |
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G_Excel said: That last scene with Lena was very cute. Too bad they will never meet each other. Actually, does anyone know if they will ever meet each other? Just give me a yes or no answer using the spoiler tag. |
UserAnonymous117 said: From the guy who rated Captain Earth an 8, AN 8!!!. You're more talk than think I suppose. Plot Armor!!, what did you think this is, Shonen!!!. Milize is a genius in military, but doesn't mean she knows everything considering the fact she is inside of San Magnolia for years after that incident. She's fighting alone, without guidance and context from ppl bcoz all of them are bunch of pigs. Shin just be here, how funny you are considering how long he has live, his brother is his motivation in his hopeless battle in the end. What's the point of self destruct, they cant even replenish their numbers. Looks like you're not that of a deep thinker considering you're a shonentard Thank for bringing a separate anime to try to win the argument.Mr. Vinland 10 Mushoku 9. Like plot armor is just shonen thing, exist fun armor and meh armors. This is latter. Milize had the face to give a lecture to the military academy students and didn't get caught by the MP.Because she is so alone. She thought a lot the 86 situation, as genius with good education, she should at least have a manifesto. The Republic must give ranks like lollipops. Now I know what Shin is, just a damn Sasuke.Thank you. So you are saying that is better the 86s kill themselves with a gun, letting the brain in the field to be used by the Legion, and a self-destruct wouldn't give more meaningful death because at least would take one Legion together and destroy the brain, impeding reuse by the Legion. |
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| Great episode. Sad to see Kaie's appearance again knowing that she'd die four months later. The cherry blossom scene was fun. Should've known it foreshadowed Daiya's death. Such a shame he died, he's one of the few that stood out for me and he was really cute with Anju. Didn't even remember the name of the girl who died until this episode, but wow the way she had to kill herself after shutting down her Para-RAID hurt. I definitely did not expect two people to die already in this episode, and so quickly at that. So uhh, does that mean the anime cover already spoils which characters are going to survive by the end of this season? I hope not, that'd kind of piss me off... Not really sure how to feel about the Lena blushing scene. It was cute I guess although a little out of place imo. I mean I know how the para-RAIDs work and how she's a sheltered maiden who's rarely interacted with guys, but damn girl calm thyself. Well anyways, looking forward to next week's episode as always. The episode title sounds ominous. |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| Wow, that was a really great episode. Seeing Lena get so flushed and embarrassed towards the end was really cute. The animation looked amazing during the battle scenes of this episode. I loved the tiny bits of backstory of the Undertaker we got in the beginning of this episode. |
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BlichoBoy said: UserAnonymous117 said: From the guy who rated Captain Earth an 8, AN 8!!!. You're more talk than think I suppose. Plot Armor!!, what did you think this is, Shonen!!!. Milize is a genius in military, but doesn't mean she knows everything considering the fact she is inside of San Magnolia for years after that incident. She's fighting alone, without guidance and context from ppl bcoz all of them are bunch of pigs. Shin just be here, how funny you are considering how long he has live, his brother is his motivation in his hopeless battle in the end. What's the point of self destruct, they cant even replenish their numbers. Looks like you're not that of a deep thinker considering you're a shonentard Thank for bringing a separate anime to try to win the argument.Mr. Vinland 10 Mushoku 9. Like plot armor is just shonen thing, exist fun armor and meh armors. This is latter. Milize had the face to give a lecture to the military academy students and didn't get caught by the MP.Because she is so alone. She thought a lot the 86 situation, as genius with good education, she should at least have a manifesto. The Republic must give ranks like lollipops. Now I know what Shin is, just a damn Sasuke.Thank you. So you are saying that is better the 86s kill themselves with a gun, letting the brain in the field to be used by the Legion, and a self-destruct wouldn't give more meaningful death because at least would take one Legion together and destroy the brain, impeding reuse by the Legion. New to this quote war, but i don't rly get what u meant in the last bit. Do you mean like it's bad for the 86 to choose to shoot themselves? Why, they don't want to be used by the legion innit? Sorry your wording just made me a bit confused. As for the scene you mentioned about Lena lecturing the military academy, you're overthinking it too much. I'll let you know from a LN reader that the scene was purely anime-original. It was actually a brilliant way to briefly explain the overall situation of the war and 86, the only other alternative would have been to have a shitty narrator talk over it which would ruin the experience imo. So yeah there is no concept of 'being caught' or wtv since it was just a way for the studio to explain what's going on without a narrator. |
aightbet said: New to this quote war, but i don't rly get what u meant in the last bit. Do you mean like it's bad for the 86 to choose to shoot themselves? Why, they don't want to be used by the legion innit? Sorry your wording just made me a bit confused. As for the scene you mentioned about Lena lecturing the military academy, you're overthinking it too much. I'll let you know from a LN reader that the scene was purely anime-original. It was actually a brilliant way to briefly explain the overall situation of the war and 86, the only other alternative would have been to have a shitty narrator talk over it which would ruin the experience imo. So yeah there is no concept of 'being caught' or wtv since it was just a way for the studio to explain what's going on without a narrator. Lecca died how? Shooting herself according to the episode. From what I understood last episode the Legion harvest deceased 86 brain, to keep functioning. And this "The LN this and LN that",just make so hard to even discuss the episode, with all these LN elitists. |
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| an episode built on false hope...and add 2 more casualties... 3/5 |
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BlichoBoy said: aightbet said: New to this quote war, but i don't rly get what u meant in the last bit. Do you mean like it's bad for the 86 to choose to shoot themselves? Why, they don't want to be used by the legion innit? Sorry your wording just made me a bit confused. As for the scene you mentioned about Lena lecturing the military academy, you're overthinking it too much. I'll let you know from a LN reader that the scene was purely anime-original. It was actually a brilliant way to briefly explain the overall situation of the war and 86, the only other alternative would have been to have a shitty narrator talk over it which would ruin the experience imo. So yeah there is no concept of 'being caught' or wtv since it was just a way for the studio to explain what's going on without a narrator. Lecca died how? Shooting herself according to the episode. From what I understood last episode the Legion harvest deceased 86 brain, to keep functioning. And this "The LN this and LN that",just make so hard to even discuss the episode, with all these LN elitists. Yeah that's correct, which is why 86 choose to shoot themselves so the legion don't get a brain of value. Yeah sorry bout referencing the LN a lot ig, but it is an award winning novel so makes sense why theres a lot of ppl like me. I think the plot holes you might think the show has currently will be explained later depending on the adaptation. So gotta be patient with it. |
that is some very impressive attention to detail |
And it's anime original. This shows the ultimate care this show gets by its studio. I love it. |
UTMANMay 16, 2021 5:17 AM
| i still dont really like her but major milize can be kinda cute sometimes |
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