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CrossfitJesus said: I don't really get why Gon cares so much about Kite he barely knew him. You can blame the anime for skipping their interactions. In the manga and the 1999 version of the anime, the series starts off with Kite saving Gon from a Foxbear mother and scolds him. It was during that time when Gon learned what a Hunter was from Kite as well as that his father was a hunter. All his life Gon's aunt had told him that his parents had died in a car accident, but on that day Kite revealed his father was actually alive and a hunter to boot while also giving Gon Ging's Hunter License. That meeting with Kite is what started Gon's entire journey to find his father. |
| Finally we get a break from the constant narration... Great episode overall in terms of the tense atmosphere but seriously, Gon is being a little bitch and I have no other way of wording it. "Why are you healing her after what you did to Kite?!?!" Well you see Gon, it's really simple. Kite was the enemy whereas Komugi is an uninvolved third party who got in the crossfire. Pretty HUGE difference there. But he only sees things in black and white whereas Killua is a dynamic character capable of adapting and understanding any situation. Oh well, while Gon's character is currently falling off of a cliff, that just means more excellent character development for Killua at least. |
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| The pacing of the last few episodes was really awful but this episode made up for it. No Gon x Pitou fight, yet Gon's rage and face expressions were epic. Masterpiece episode. Dem feels! |
| Je trempe mes cookies dans tes larmes. |
| What a tense and emotional episode!! That was some curve in Gon's character development! He went from 100% happy, trusting, naive boy into a vengeful, angry boy. Not that it's without reason, since he must've been holding in his anger after seeing how Kite was. Thank goodness Gon did not do anything stupid like attacking Pitou when she's healing Komugi! But when he said those words to Killua, my heart throbbed in pain for Killua.. Gon how can you say that to Killua?! I really think their friendship is really strained lately....It's bit of pieces here and there but some rifts have started appearing..i wonder if there'll come a day when they go their own ways, I'm beginning to think that that is just a matter of time... For the first time ever I feel something else for Pitou besides anger, just a little bit. I guess she's just that desperate to save Komugi. But I think it's also for the best, she probably knows that the King would go mad if Komugi dies. I'm so glad Killua is there with Gon tbh, with his ability to deduce the situation and throw some sense into Gon. The ending though, where did Killua go? And why were they zooming in to the ventilation? |
blue-ySep 20, 2016 4:06 AM
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| Killua left. Omg I'm dying T0T |
| L had a poster of Norman in his room |
| These are the moments that define anime. These are the moments that create legends. This...is a GOAT episode. With that said...HOLY SHIT! I feel for Gon. Damn. He's ripped AF. Seriously, they could have used HUNTING FOR YOUR DREAM during this episode and the previous episode. |
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| Was scared for a sec Gon might turn dark and kill Komugi. |
| Gon was harsh towards Killua this episode. I don't blame him, but it broke my heart a little to see Killua pained by his words. |
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| I was literally sweating while watching this episode. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| When you can't find right words to describe this episode ;-; |
| OMG, Gon was such a CRINGE-ULTRA-LORD in this ep. "Hurr durr I am so badass, I am the one who asks questions derp herp". It was something like Mr. White from Breaking Bad in last season, but less cool and more cringy. |
239 said: Probably one of the few people who actually dislike this episode. Gon's behaviour makes me want to punch him really hard. He almost traded a life of a innocent girl and probably Kite (and Neferpitou of course, but he couldn't care less I guess), just because his childish anger. And after Killua calms him down, he makes him sad by dropping an unnecessary comment. Of course I understand his anger and resulting rage, but I felt very uncomfortable watching this. Episode is still good, as many seem to enjoy it. 100% agree with you on this, Gon is a little cunt |
| I never understood why people liked Gon until now. He was basically a generic shounen protagonist before the Chimera Ant arc excepting a few scenes like where he questioned Chrollo and that one time he blew off his own arm. But looking back, those scenes were essentially the precursors to this scene. Gon was always a little bit weird, but it seems that weirdness was hiding something deeper. Gon is a very straightforward person, but this episode shows that he's straightforward to a fault. He can't see people he deems as "evil" as people. To him, they surrendered any right to sympathy when they decided to take lives. So seeing Pitou, the one person he hates the absolute most acting more human those most of the actual humans he knows just breaks him. But he can't stop, he can't allow himself to admit that his worldview could be wrong, and while he lets Pitou heal Komugi, he doesn't let her/him/it heal Komugi completely. He's already made enough of a concession giving Pitou an hour, and so he can't afford to give anything else, even if it causes him to lose his one friend. If Naruto is the person who can accept everyone's suffering and pain, then Gon is the person who refuses to see anything beyond his own viewpoint. HxH is built upon subverting and avoiding common shounen tropes, and this is probably his best example of it. The only problem I have is, as many have already said, that Kite himself is a character that does not live up to the utter rage that Gon exhibits for him. I know that things are a bit different from the manga, and I know that Kite was basically Gon's only connection to his father, but it still does not feel right. |
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KingOfSherous said: I never understood why people liked Gon until now. He was basically a generic shounen protagonist before the Chimera Ant arc excepting a few scenes like where he questioned Chrollo and that one time he blew off his own arm. But looking back, those scenes were essentially the precursors to this scene. Gon was always a little bit weird, but it seems that weirdness was hiding something deeper. Gon is a very straightforward person, but this episode shows that he's straightforward to a fault. He can't see people he deems as "evil" as people. To him, they surrendered any right to sympathy when they decided to take lives. So seeing Pitou, the one person he hates the absolute most acting more human those most of the actual humans he knows just breaks him. But he can't stop, he can't allow himself to admit that his worldview could be wrong, and while he lets Pitou heal Komugi, he doesn't let her/him/it heal Komugi completely. He's already made enough of a concession giving Pitou an hour, and so he can't afford to give anything else, even if it causes him to lose his one friend. If Naruto is the person who can accept everyone's suffering and pain, then Gon is the person who refuses to see anything beyond his own viewpoint. HxH is built upon subverting and avoiding common shounen tropes, and this is probably his best example of it. The only problem I have is, as many have already said, that Kite himself is a character that does not live up to the utter rage that Gon exhibits for him. I know that things are a bit different from the manga, and I know that Kite was basically Gon's only connection to his father, but it still does not feel right. That's what the 1999 anime is for. Kite saved Gon's life, and told him what a hunter is. Besides, Kite was not the main reason for his rage. It's Nobunaga. |
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General_Doge said: Gon's action made me scratch my head the whole time. Simply put, it felt too out of character from him. Previously he showed mercy and empathy for even villains who murdered countless number of people, such as the Spiders, Bomber, etc. He was the person who tried to stop Krapika from becoming a vengeful killing machine. I mean, I like it when the Protagonist break the general Shounen hero cliche, but this felt too sudden after all the previous image of Gon from 115 episodes so far. Perhaps it would've made more sense if Pikou's victim was a much more closer person such as Killua, Krapika, etc. It could also be because I only watched the 2011 remake and no other media such as manga where Kite appears more often. I wasn't as attached to Kite as Gon appeared to be in this episode unfortunately. If it felt too sudden, it's because you haven't been paying attention. This scene has been building up since Yorknew, and had development all the way through even in Greed Island. |
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General_Doge said: Mikasa said: If it felt too sudden, it's because you haven't been paying attention. This scene has been building up since Yorknew, and had development all the way through even in Greed Island. I'm not convinced. Can you point out exactly which part contributes to Gon's sudden change of character? Because all I remember from Yorknew and Greed Island is him stopping Krapika from his mad vengeance, making peace with the Spiders, and forgiving Bomber. First of all, he did not show "mercy", he was in no position to show mercy anyway. But ever since the start, Gon had no problem with people dying in itself. Not even Killua having killed shocked him. 1) In the exam, he walked past people dying or getting Killed, because, they knew what they were signing up for. 2) He gave Killua the benefit of the doubt, because he had been being forced to lead that life by his parents. 3) What bothered him is how hypocritical Nobunaga was, killing with no remorse, yet daring to feel angry and sad when Uvogin died. He knew what he signed up for. He doesn't get to be sad, according to Gon. 4) He let Genthru go, because, again, those people he killed all knew what Greed Island was like. And Killua himself added: I killed people much less prepared than those. 5) Like Nobunaga, Pitou dares to ask them to give him time to save a life. Gon doesn't get that, how come someone evil be so hypocritical and dare act like he has a good side. On the one hand, he's upset that some people give others special treatment, (Nobu and Pitou don't have a right to feel about about and try to save other people when they hurt others too.) on the other, he just doesn't want to view this as a grey area, he refuses to see the situation as anything other than black and white. There are many angles to it, he's somewhat right and somewhat being hypocritical himself, depending on which character he's affecting (former being Pitou, latter being Komugi) |
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General_Doge said: Mikasa said: First of all, he did not show "mercy", he was in no position to show mercy anyway. But ever since the start, Gon had no problem with people dying in itself. Not even Killua having killed shocked him. 1) In the exam, he walked past people dying or getting Killed, because, they knew what they were signing up for. 2) He gave Killua the benefit of the doubt, because he had been being forced to lead that life by his parents. 3) What bothered him is how hypocritical Nobunaga was, killing with no remorse, yet daring to feel angry and sad when Uvogin died. He knew what he signed up for. He doesn't get to be sad, according to Gon. 4) He let Genthru go, because, again, those people he killed all knew what Greed Island was like. And Killua himself added: I killed people much less prepared than those. 5) Like Nobunaga, Pitou dares to ask them to give him time to save a life. Gon doesn't get that, how come someone evil be so hypocritical and dare act like he has a good side. On the one hand, he's upset that some people give others special treatment, (Nobu and Pitou don't have a right to feel about about and try to save other people when they hurt others too.) on the other, he just doesn't want to view this as a grey area, he refuses to see the situation as anything other than black and white. There are many angles to it, he's somewhat right and somewhat being hypocritical himself, depending on which character he's affecting (former being Pitou, latter being Komugi) I disagree. He definitely showed mercy towards Genthru via not killing him, saving him and his friends using Angel's Breath card before even healing Killua. If that isn't mercy, I don't know what is. Besides, all of those points have nothing to do with Gon showing absolutely no mercy or him falling into madness due to thirst for vengeance. Actually, your points work against Gon's actions. As you have said Gon knew exactly what it meant to be a Hunter - that it's a very dangerous job where death is everyday life. He learns that from the very beginning arc and all throughout the story. He was mature enough to know what he signed up for, and even Kite warned him and Killua numerous times. It's really troubling that the arc ends as the Ant King gains humanity whereas Gon loses his. It's a wonderful irony, except for that Gon is the show's protagonist that had been consistent the whole time. I wonder this sudden transition has something to do with HxH losing some of its steam after this arc. You know even in war after the enemy is incapacitated you're supposed to help. Not really mercy, just a code of honor. Regardless of how you feel toward them. Kite was simply investigating an incident until these killing machines showed up. They signed up for a scientific excursion, and came across people who just kill for fun. Yeah being Hunter isn't necessarily dangerous and dying there isn't to be shrugged off. I don't see how my points work against whatever. Nobunaga's confrontation is exactly the same except it involved people he didn't even know. |
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| Is this the pinnacle of anime voice acting? I think it is! what a rollercoaster of emotions. |
| Holy! Gon just Told killua 0_0 |
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| Killua...? Where did you go??? TTATT Gon, stahp hurting my baby Q_____Q Don't let him leave /sobs |
| This episode is amazing... Not because of any cool fights, but because of the character interactions and the intense emotion Gon is expressing. No normal people like Gon can, not be consumed by rage and be furious towards the killer (Pitou) of a close acquaintance (Kite)... Especially when Pitou herself does not want to fight back, he doesn't have anyone to direct the rage to... He wants to fight her to satisfy his fury. It might be selfish to want to fight her because he hates her, but come on. His hatred is so visible, even his nen is stained black and his personality is turned 180! Anyway, it's gonna be cool to see both of them fight I wonder if Pitou will change her attitude because Komugi will then be healed and fight with Gon as if they want to fight each other... Killua, I hope you're not breaking your promise to your father... |
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| Thats beyond perfect Good job MadStudio , you made this episode wonderful even tho it had no fight |
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| On one hand, the time devoted to explanations and monologues, have extended a few minutes of in-universe time over the course of a number of episodes. On the other hand, these few minutes have been so eventful in building up each sequential encounter between different characters that I hardly noticed the episodes go by. It wasn't until this episode did the narrative feel like it hit another climatic moment, to which I could finally reel back and appreciate all the work that went into setting up this one moment between Gon and Pitou. There's no real moral high ground to take here, but while Gon is struggling to differentiate saving Kite and avenging Kite, Pitou is in a peculiar situation where she's not necessarily weaker than Gon, nor did she make any particular wrongful decisions that forced her to bargain, yet is completely at his mercy. At the same time, she's not exactly fearful of Gon, nor is she particularly fearful of any particular punishment that would incur if Komugi were to die. Pitou seems more fearful of the unknown change that would occur if the King were to lose his only connection to any sense of morality. Or maybe it's because Komugi seemed to be his only drive to take any real action in life, where his near obsession in keeping Komugi around bewilders and frightens Pitou. This is made better where even the King doesn't understand why he's keeping Komugi around. This is a situation where there's no real good or evil at work anymore. I mean, the Ants were still planning on doing devious things, so by technicality they're the villains, but to ignore the non-villainous aspects, Gon would have to adopt non-heroic attributes as a result, of which he probably wouldn't recover from. And, yet, it's understandable as to why Gon is conflicted. He's in a situation where there's no clear solution, as well as no scapegoat to vent all his anger at. Is this some sort of exploration of the action/adventure Shounen hero confronted with the lack of that moral high ground? Is this a clever twist on expectations regarding designated villains and their portrayal? It certainly felt like a straightforward enough setup using Komugi as a means to humanize the King, which in turn rattled all his subjects. Yet, it was done in a way that forced me to take a near 2 week break from HxH so I wouldn't marathon the rest of this series in one sitting. So...yeah. I can see why Hunter x Hunter (2011) is so highly rated. |
| Damn Gon really lost it |
| This episode is one of my favorites in all of anime. Everything is on point: the OST, voice acting, dialogues. I get chills even in my rewatch. |
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| I LOVED the voice acting in this episode. Gon's anger sent chills down my spine. I don't wanna see this poor child suffer... this really is a lose-lose scenario. |
| Ok wow Gon …that was totally brutal… you always seem like a villain when you are in power..I wished he had waited for 3 hours or so… |
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| Keep the hate to Ging tho since |
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| Jesus fucking christ the tension I'm on Komugi's side though. And Gon will find out that Kite can be healed since he's already dead pretty soon huh Also mean words to Killua, huh? I'm gonna fucking kill you |
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| This episode was heartbreaking. It was painful to watch Killua’s expression when clearly he was hurt by what Gon is going through and what his dear friend had said to him. |
| Damn the amount of emotions that were flown through Gon was just fantastic in this episode! Really do wonder what will happen after one hour to be honest! |
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| See? This is how the show should be from the start. Was that so hard? If the show keep this up, I can give it an 8, but nothing more than that |
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| I honestly didn't feel shit for Gon because of how dumb he was this episode. The only feeling I had was anger at Gon. Gon is such an inconsistent character. Sometimes he is so understanding and reacts even faster than Killua, but sometimes he is so stupid it hurts to watch. Please don't tell me because he lost his shit because of Pitou. I don't find that reasonable because he has ALWAYS been thinking straightforward in battle from the beginning. Man why do I always end up disliking all battle shounen MC? Edit: I also disagree with people saying Gon only sees things in black and white. More like he only sees it as people being good or bad to HIM, and decides if they're good or bad. That kind of mentality not just makes him a hypocrite, but also unbelievable as a character. Also it's said there that 1999's version has addition scenes with Gon and Kite, but it has nothing to do with 2011's version when it's not shown that much. I'm gonna stick to my way of thinking: Gon's motivation from the beginning is not convincing at all. From his reason to become a Hunter to his anger because of Kite being "manipulated". It's out of nowhere. Also just because he is angry, he immediately becomes all powerful and shit, I wonder how it's different from stupid buff from, let's say, Fairy Tail? It's always been a the problem for me from the beginning, but this time it's already off the chart. Moreover, it's not like Gon can just kill Pitou because he doesn't know how to bring Kite back. He doesn't have any other way except waiting for Pitou to treat Komugi. It's also bullshit to me how they first showed how strong the Royal Guards were, and actually made it look like they are gonna either lose to some noobs or spend too much time doing nothing without killing them immediately. My score dropped immediately to 7 after this episode. Least favorite arc so far. Let's see what happens next! |
tuanguyenJul 27, 2019 11:13 PM
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| An intense episode! I've never seen Gon get worked up like that. |
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