Shangri-La Frontier: Kusoge Hunter, Kamige ni Idoman to su Episode 18 Discussion

@GakutoDeathGlare no her old sister is not pencilgon you can see in the op her old sister is in red long hair with armor too in the game

@Dickegrobe

Should just drop the series so we don't have to hear more of your shitty takes.

Looked good, took way too long.

I feel that the game setting works against the story, there's too much trying to justify why it's hard or how powerful buffs are by having absurd requirements or costs. It gives the audience a bunch of expectations that get broken a lot, like how the whips have been used across the episodes.

Sunraku at all being allowed to hurt himself with the dagger and survive it due to an obscure mechanics change he read about in a magazine is a god awful contrived point of tension, especially because he could've done it in the earlier episode several times (once per death) without having to meticulously make sure he drained himself down to the correct amount of HP - He gets one-shot from all the attacks anyway. In fact he should not have been surprised at the end or thought that he failed his prep, he should've been ready to exploit this mechanic at the end from the get-go considering this is how his most powerful move works.

"Just enjoy the show" I would if it was just fantasy, but they specifically went out of their way to make this about a game and have it be an integral part of the story and reasoning.
It doesn't matter how pretty some scenes are if it's one big exhausting mess that just drags on and keeps pushing the tension. It could've been a truly great episode, but for me it doesn't get even a passing grade.

@Smilomaniac

First of all, it's not contrived if it was set like 3nepisode ago and that change in rules was actually nerf. Second there was no point use that before, Sunraku didn't do any damage anyway so higher crit was useless on top of that he was waiting for his other skill cool down.

First you should papay attention how, when and why were skill used instead throwing some random opinions on wall and hope it sticks.

Shangri La Frontier Unlimited Budget Works! So many Sakuga moments in this episode!

@Tenzen12 It is absolutely contrived lol
He deliberately goes down in health multiple times when he could've just done this, this is indisputable, I couldn't give a rats ass between whatever abilities he's using, it's mechanically a dog shit fight anyway.
Something being announced earlier doesn't invalidate it as a contrivance and none of what you say in any way eliminates that he should've prepped this, it was only to create false tension and deliver an emotional moment for Wezaemon to look at his dead girlfriend.

Maybe you should "papay attention" to the point people make and curb your insecurity, so you don't get upset when someone outs what you like as flawed.

Be confident in what you like despite its shortcomings, you don't need to defend it to maintain your opinion, you can just shrug and walk away instead.

@Smilomaniac I am not upset I trying to give you advice so you can better yourself and communities you are part of. And actually think before saying something is very basic in that regard.

@GakutoDeathGlare no her old sister is not pencilgon you can see in the op her old sister is in red long hair with armor too in the game

Looked good, took way too long.

I feel that the game setting works against the story, there's too much trying to justify why it's hard or how powerful buffs are by having absurd requirements or costs. It gives the audience a bunch of expectations that get broken a lot, like how the whips have been used across the episodes.

Sunraku at all being allowed to hurt himself with the dagger and survive it due to an obscure mechanics change he read about in a magazine is a god awful contrived point of tension, especially because he could've done it in the earlier episode several times (once per death) without having to meticulously make sure he drained himself down to the correct amount of HP - He gets one-shot from all the attacks anyway. In fact he should not have been surprised at the end or thought that he failed his prep, he should've been ready to exploit this mechanic at the end from the get-go considering this is how his most powerful move works.

"Just enjoy the show" I would if it was just fantasy, but they specifically went out of their way to make this about a game and have it be an integral part of the story and reasoning.
It doesn't matter how pretty some scenes are if it's one big exhausting mess that just drags on and keeps pushing the tension. It could've been a truly great episode, but for me it doesn't get even a passing grade.

@Smilomaniac I actually agree with you
If this show is yet another SAO type death game that REQUIRES you to beat the Seven Callosal to quit the game, the whole p2w setting and over preparedness would have make much more sense.

But trying to justify all these setting/tension as a MMO is a bit of stretch really. No dev would purposely make 7 op hidden bosses that's either:
- No-one find out the way to trigger it cuz the method is very convoluted.
- Need huge investment per attempt to the point that you can't fail the fight or it's over.

MMO contents are meant to be discovered and meant to be cleared / replayable if you want your game to have any degree of player retention.
The fact that most players don't know about the hidden plot mc experienced just prove that this is a shit game the mc keep mentioning.
It's as if they have this futuristic vr tech but their internet/ content creators are super inactive and ancient, as if this show is taken place Pre 2000s.
H x H Greed Island and SAO works because of the special nature of those games. The whole game is enclosed toward specific group of people and it has consequences when you fail because it simulate real life.

@Ventus_S it's not have to be another death game like SAO to need a high investment to defeat the boss. I still don't get you how is this a P2W at all when all you need is an in-game currency. All you need is only to grind or farm it again to recover all the currency you blow in a single boss, you don't have to pay real money at all.

If you defeat the 7 boss then it's the end of the game, logically the dev would make the boss as challenging as possible to keep the game running for a long time. You really underestimate player as if you haven't played any hardcore game at all. There's people who can actually defeat an endgame boss with a lvl 1 character.

If you give player chance time to keep challenging the 7 boss with low investment equipment the game will be closed in less than a year. Elder ring is hard yet nobody call it trash game you are the one who is trash if you can't even defeat the first boss battle.

Players likes challanges if you can't stand to grind for months to get a super broken items and can't defeat the boss then quit the game because the game is not for you, it's that simple. So far only Lycaon that needs a RNG to encounter but later in the manga Its actually very exciting if you encounter something unique in the game without looking at the guide in YouTube, surely you have experienced that no?

@Tenzen12 It was a pissy attempt to be smart with me and it fell flat on its ass. Don't tell people they're wrong when they're not and then dress it up as if it was with good intentions.

Take your own advice and think before you reply to someone.