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Jan 23, 2023 12:30 AM
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the problem is with the 10 point rating system. It should be from -5 to positive 5 with 0 was average. This would make the ratings more spread out. 
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Because it’s a fact that most shows are good or fine at the very least. Someone will always appreciate a show despite its shortcomings. Learn to sit back, relax and enjoy. You can also turn off your brain if you need to.
Jan 23, 2023 12:59 AM
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Honestly speaking, everyone has their own favorites, right? It may be funny to see that some people rated anime that you don’t even like to watch to begin with. But this question is important and it is nice to know that everyone is different. How about this? Instead of comparing our differences, let’s start sharing what we have in common? Oh my! My answer is way out of the topic hehe… But I’m glad to meet people with whom they can share other anime that I haven’t seen or watched before. We are free to share our opinion, but let’s avoid the insultance and such that can really hurt someone. Let’s all be friends.
Jan 23, 2023 1:14 AM

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Well I generally rate with the 5-10 scale. Mainly because what I watch is what I want and like to watch. I try to finish all the series I watch, even if its bad. But generally most of the time I rate things quite generously, even though I was a bit harsher in the past.

Jan 23, 2023 2:15 AM
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I noticed the same thing as well, people see 5-6 as a bad score and 7 as mid, when 6 means you thought it was fine, and 5 is literally mid, even tagged as average.
My average score is 6/10 I think.
Jan 23, 2023 2:18 AM
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Dachitosoru said:
I believe it's due to how most users rate things. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think that rating using the MAL system makes a significant difference between the options, and that's why people prefer the "5 to 10" scale more.

And yes, I support the idea of a more simplified rating system, like "1 to 5 stars".

I think the opposite would be better, I'm having trouble with the limited expression from 1/10, 1/5 would be even more restrictive, I'd like a 0/100 system.
Jan 23, 2023 3:51 AM

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Hitagi__Furude said:
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Its kinda harsh to rate most shows low when you mostly pirate all the time!!!
umm?? this is rating, not guilting over pirating. that really has nothing to do with how you score it. 

i think the 100 point or the decimal point system works best for rating, if you care at all about the scores. 

Jan 23, 2023 4:07 AM

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1) School grading system. In most countries the passing grade is 50-60%, but since almost every student can get a passing grade, 6/10 actually is below average (and thus 7/10 average and 8/10 the first truly positive score). 
2) Some users literally rate everything 10/10. "I like this anime, I'll rate it as high as I can because I think it deserves a higher score and I want to support it".

P.S. Scores are like inflation: the more high scores you give, the less is their value. I'm pretty sure I love my 7/10 more than someone with a mean score of 8.xx loves their 9/10.
Jan 23, 2023 4:14 AM

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I mean, something has to be reeeeeeeeeally bad to be under-5, right? I think that it isn't that hard to come up with a story worth 5/10, especially when we're talking about productions with actual budget.

Looking at my list, a lot of the things that are scored 4 probably aren't even that bad, many of them are actually pretty decent but the score results from some initial hype given to me by the community that I just didn't. find warranted, ending up feeling less than happy with it. Many of them actually go on to improve drastically in when explored in further instalments (Sengoku Basara, Bungou Stray Dogs, Towa no Quon) and if I went back to them I'd probably grade them much more favourably.


Some of the few examples of just bad production are for example Gokukoku no Brynhildr, which was poorly animated and terribly executed in terms of plot/resolution, X-Men (I actually can't remember even watching this, let alone any beat from the anime), Ged Senki (it's just such a random adaptation), No Game No Life which I find pretty shallow based on it's 12 episodes alone and most notably K: Return of Kings, which single-handedly destroyed my most enjoyable franchise, and is objectively worth more than 1/10.
Jan 23, 2023 4:21 AM
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HAJOKESONU said:
My rating

1 - dropped

2 - watched a few episode dropped

3 - didnt care for the anime

4 - finished didnt like it or liked plot

5 - average. didnt like didnt hate

6 - liked more but will forget about it down the years

7 - okay. remember plot and stuff might rewatch

8 - liked the anime. probably rewatch every season if no good anime shows up.

9 - love the anime. definitely rewatched multiple times

10 - nothing is perfect so no anime should ever score a 10 
Same here expect I give 10s for a handful of shows and 5 means below average and 6 means ok.
My mean is a 6.3 while the average mean is 7.0
Jan 23, 2023 10:00 AM
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Yea in a lot of peoples eyes a 6/10 is a bad score, goes for anything, not just anime.
that's why 5-star rating systems are better. For some reason, a 3/5 seems like a good score while 6/10 seems like a bad one.
I guess it results in less variance between how different users rate stuff but it's awfully restricting. A 10 point scale is already restricting enough.
Jan 23, 2023 10:26 AM
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Not sure either but I rate 1-10 ofc
But some people avenge score in their mind is 7 mine is 5... As it should be. 
Good post OP 
Jan 23, 2023 10:54 AM
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I'm not a masochist and mostly don't finish what I don't like. The system here only counts your rating after watching like 1/3 of the episodes.
Jan 23, 2023 11:07 AM

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Usually I rate works that I watched by 6, 7 if it is good, 8 if it is very good work and left some impression on me, 9 if it is an amazing work and is heartbreaking and 10 for masterpieces.
Jan 23, 2023 12:10 PM
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I rate by the terms MAL uses. 5/10 really is average to me. Has scenes I liked, but overall the anime is leaning towards "Bad", but not bad enough to give it 4/10. MAL rating really drops between 5 and 4, from average to straight bad. 

I myself haven't even watched an anime that has overall 6/10 or worse rating. And if I don't like something, I usually drop it and don't rate it. Which makes overall scores seem like they're better than average. 
Jan 23, 2023 12:18 PM

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I normally drop shows if I think they're bad, thus there's not many shows that gets a low score. The older I get, the better I get at just weeding out stuff I don't actually enjoy watching early, and if I enjoy watching it I will probably give it a higher score. I don't feel a need to rate something that I've only seen a couple of episodes of. 
Jan 23, 2023 12:22 PM
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because this is an anime website and we therefore all love anime
Jan 23, 2023 12:26 PM

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If you think you rate anime too highly, go to your profile and decrease every score by 1. 

"But then there will be no 10s"

Correct. There is no such thing as a masterpiece.

On a more serious note, people generally do not watch anime that they don't find interesting since it would be a waste of time so the scores are typically higher.
Jan 23, 2023 12:28 PM

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If you think about it, people are more likely to finish (and rate) animes that they enjoy and they're more likely to drop (and not rate) animes that they don't enjoy. Not having many animes with a score below 5 or 6 makes complete sense when you keep that in mind. The same also goes for users' average overall score; if I rated every single anime that I dropped (including the majority of them that I didn't add to my list) based on what I'd seen so far, I'm sure my average score would be A LOT lower and closer to a 5.

Tl;dr: it makes total sense. Yeah I guess it's a little annoying to have to convert from "score for the people that finished it" to "score that it technically should have", but that's just how media rankings work
Jan 23, 2023 12:49 PM

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No worries. I'm doing my part of dropping average scores on mal.
Jan 23, 2023 12:57 PM
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Idk I guess I like mostly everything I watch and rate it accordingly, I think my lowest rated was a 5. For an anime to be a 1 for me, it would have to be unwatchable, terrible story, ultra bad animation etc. Feel free to give me criticism, but I just enjoy everything I watch and I respect it with a score I see fit.
Jan 23, 2023 3:48 PM

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Chris_Concept said:
Not sure either but I rate 1-10 ofc
But some people avenge score in their mind is 7 mine is 5... As it should be. 
Good post OP 
That only works if you pull an anime out of a hat, I watch shows that I believe I'll enjoy, hence the average of 7. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 23, 2023 4:26 PM

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As a matter of fact i DO use all 1-10 scale unlike many people. Also, MAL score don't really represent what you'll give it . KnY s2 is 8.82 yet i gave it 4 and i've seen some people giving it a 3.
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LostSpectre said:
Chris_Concept said:
Not sure either but I rate 1-10 ofc
But some people avenge score in their mind is 7 mine is 5... As it should be. 
Good post OP 
That only works if you pull an anime out of a hat, I watch shows that I believe I'll enjoy, hence the average of 7. 

yes you are correct, I dont give to many <5 but last year I did since I was taking part of AWC 22.
ther are a few airing animes I finish too and it's pretty average.
Jan 23, 2023 5:51 PM

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Like a lot of people have said, I feel like most/a lot of people on MAL rate on a 5-10 scale instead of a 1-10 scale, where they consider 5 to actually be 'really bad', 7 to be 'average', and 9-10 to be anime that they 'really really enjoyed'. I know a lot of people with higher mean scores that literally just don't rate anime below a 5 at all, which is probably where the trend is coming from. A lot of people just don't see 5 as the 'average', and assume that you really didn't like an anime if you rated it a 5. That's fine, I guess, and obviously people can rate how they want... but it makes me wonder sometimes what a 10 actually means to you, if your list is absolutely covered in them.

At least when I first joined MAL, my mean score was way higher than it is now, and I definitely feel like I was rating on that 5-10 scale. Now I try to use the whole scale instead, which made me lower a lot of my 10s (and other scores), and I just kind of naturally ended up with a lower mean score in general. For me, I don't really use the words that MAL associates with anime when I rate stuff, but I do consider a 7 to be 'something that I enjoyed and generally met my expectations', and 5 to be 'something that felt forgettable for one reason or another, or something that was just... okay, where nothing about it stood out, really'. I also tend to rate things lower even if I enjoyed them, but they just didn't compare to higher rated anime on my list for one reason or another. Sometimes it just wouldn't feel right to rate something higher, simply because I enjoyed it, if it didn't measure up otherwise.

I've noticed it's also really freeing to rate stuff lower, and it's honestly made my list way more reflective of what I actually like/enjoy, and what really left an impact on me- rather than back when I had tons of 10's and just didn't rate anything lower than a 5. Obviously this is like, all my opinion, and I haven't really watched a ton of anime in comparison to most, so my feelings could change as I watch more, of course.




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Jan 23, 2023 6:26 PM

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1. Most people have low standards. They think competent anime which should be a 5/10 is actually a good 7/10.

2. People don't tend to watch shows they think they will dislike, so you have fewer people rating shows below 5/10 then people rating above it.
Jan 23, 2023 6:27 PM

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Ronichko said:
People are lazy. Personally I greatly dislike the fact that 7/10 is the new average. But being to critical and objective, gets you nothing but self-satisfaction. You'll be called an elitist or asked why you still watch anime if you rate it low and apparently hate it.

Sadly even so called anime fans don't care enough about anime, to seriously consider using the rating scale MAL has provided. In stead I think they'd prefer using emojis, to rate they're anime.

Yeah but unironically posturing yourself as some objective critic who is the only who "truly" cares about anime to rate it low is elitism lol. It's all about attitudes not how you score or what you watch or don't watch. Also lazy? Really over anime scores lol?

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I dont think i ever seen an anime with lower than 5 score (maybe like 1-2 idk ive seen having 3)

Anyway, why do yall refuse to use the 1-10 scale and instead rate on 5-10 scale, its at the point when you see a 6 average score you know its gonna be a 3-6/10 at max

Are anime fans just to generous or something ? 

MAL might as well at this point force a 1-5 rating system and even then i believe lowest rated stuff will be 3 at max ...

I know it really doesn't matter, in the end u watch what u fell like, but it would be nice to have a more accurate representaion of a shows public opinion so you know at least what type of quality your getting into without having to think "Hmm this is rated 6.3, probably a 4/10 show at max"

Most popular stuff on Metacritic or IDMB tends to be in the 7-10 range. Remember FNV got in trouble for only having an 84 on Metacritic. It's not just an anime thing. So I don't know where that is coming from. 

Secondly sure some people do think 7 means average (blame some schools for this) but I mean for me I have a 6.8 average and that's just down to being good at picking shows and my glass half full approach to media. Most stuff I watch I do like at the end of the day. It's not shocking it's that high.
Jan 23, 2023 6:35 PM
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There is a significant difference in quality between simply "bad" and utterly atrocious. And I'm one of those people who watches an anime I hate to the very end, partially because of my OCD and I figure I should make the score count a fraction.
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Jan 23, 2023 6:39 PM
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I think you just discovered that opinions exist!!
Jan 23, 2023 8:02 PM

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Most people tend to stick with watching things they expect to enjoy, and while they might not actually end up enjoying every single one, their hit rate is usually pretty good, which means the people who actually rate a show are a selection who like that anime more than the average person would and so it ends up with a fairly high score as a result. If people were forced to watch shows based on a random number generator rather than going by their own tastes then I bet anime scores would be a lot lower. There's lots of people who even admit that they drop any anime that feels like less than a 6 to them and then won't rate their drops.

There obviously are some people who just philosophically refuse to rate anime low, either because they're using a school grading system where below a 6/10 is a fail or because "the creators put so much work into it, it would be unfair to give it a low score". There's also people who are just lazy and don't want to think about the bottom half of the scale even existing. There are also some people who rate stupidly low, but they're more of a minority.
Jan 23, 2023 8:14 PM

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People don't know how numbers and ratings work. Hell, some people think a 7 is "average" even though it's literally "good" on the rating system.
Jan 23, 2023 8:29 PM

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I often go into detail when I put a score on shows. The same goes for manga and etc. I personally have a specific scoring description for a 1-10 scale of scores and I often use the descriptions to determine the show. Everyone's different which is why the overall rating varies. 




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Jan 23, 2023 8:48 PM

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I don't see a problem with it, it's nice that people are able to enjoy the medium so much, even if most anime doesn't "deserve" as high a score as it has, it could still be useful to compare scores to each other to get a general feel of which anime the community likes more. My only problem is there's a bias for newer stuff on here. If you look at an anime from 20+ years ago of a similar quality to an anime airing today, 9/10 times the one airing today will be rated higher, so you kind of have to account for that if you want an "accurate" idea of how the quality of the two shows are perceived compared to each other.

Scores can be interesting sometimes, but I generally tend to avoid them. Instead of comparing a MAL 7 to your own definition of a 7, you just need to mentally adjust to how that score would actually compare to your own. But I don't think MAL scores should really matter as far as you making your own opinion on a show, just watch it and find out for yourself.
Jan 23, 2023 9:05 PM

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most people tend to not watch garbage i think
  
Jan 23, 2023 9:13 PM

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pasanoid said:
I prefer to rate in accord to mal's own keywords: if the show is good I rate it as 'good' (7), if the show is bad I rate it as 'bad' (4) etc. quite simple really
I feel like the wording behind the ratings has an effect too. People will tend to over-think their rating and ask: Was this show really worth being called 'Horrible' or 'Appalling' when it might been only 'bad'?

Then there is also the fact that most animes are higher quality these days (or at least it feels that way), and there will always be people who are unable to criticize anything and their average score is 8+.
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10 is S 9 is A+ 8 is A 7 is A- 6 is B thats why.
10= S+, 9= S, 8= A, 7= B, 6= C. Fixed that for you, and use punctuation to make your list easier to read next time. 
Jan 23, 2023 9:24 PM

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BilboBaggins365 said:

Yeah but unironically posturing yourself as some objective critic who is the only who "truly" cares about anime to rate it low is elitism lol. It's all about attitudes not how you score or what you watch or don't watch. Also lazy? Really over anime scores lol?


A characteristic of an elitist, is claiming that current anime are and will always be inferior to past anime. I don't think like that.
But sure I am critical and try to be objective, which is nearly impossible.
Sorry but the cold hard truth is, ANIME FANS ARE LAZY, WHEN IT COMES TO RATING THEY'RE ANIME. Why else would they simplify the 1/10 scale and reduce it to a 6/10 one, calling a 7/10 average. If that's not lazy and taking an "I can't be bothered" attitude, then what is.
Jan 23, 2023 9:28 PM

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you just now realized anime fans cant rate objectively? goes with having shit taste 
Jan 24, 2023 12:08 AM

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Part of it is recency bias. Weebs have a tendency to consistently hype up the newest anime hit as the best thing since the invention of internet porn. 
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Jan 24, 2023 1:39 AM

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Most people wont watch something that does not interest them so the base score is really more like 6 or 7 instead of 5.
Jan 24, 2023 2:49 AM

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that thing also happens in letterboxd and IMDB. The average consumer  doesnt use the whole scale. 
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Jan 24, 2023 2:54 AM
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My average is at 8.20 because:

-I ask for recommendations before watchIng something 
-I have never watched anything rated under 7
-I don't rate anime that i dropped because it's unfair.
-Unlike you, i don't watch genres that I dislike. 

Check out this example from your list. you rated:
tsuki ga kirei a 6
plastic memories a 3
shigatsu wa kimi no uso a 6
white album 2 a 5
Tonari no katbutsu kun a 5

That's on average more than 3 whole points less than myanimelist scores
you obviously don't like romance so be smart and stop wasting your time watching that genre.
I agree with this guy, I usually drop anything that I feel will be lower than a 6, which is why most of the anime on my list will be rated higher. Tho a lot of them might not be perfect representations as i've seen many at different points in life so i might not like some of them as much as an adult.
Jan 24, 2023 3:09 AM

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Most of us aren't critics but anime enjoyers.
For myself, I rarely watch things I think I will not like.

Also, recency bias and sequel bias play.
Jan 24, 2023 3:29 AM
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Just like some of y'all want your 10s to "mean" something, maybe others want their 4s and below to mean something? Some of you believe a masterpiece doesn't exist, but can't this go both ways? Hypocritical, sure.
Jan 24, 2023 3:45 AM

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I feel like most people treat 10 as a like button rather than actually giving a score.
Jan 25, 2023 12:20 AM
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Almost all completed anime are 6+/10 from an objective standpoint.

The completed product may not be everyone's tea, many not even 100 people's tea. But the act of writing, producing, storyboarding, drawing, animating and voicing a work to completion is a feat in itself.

The real art is in the creation.
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Ronichko said:
BilboBaggins365 said:

Yeah but unironically posturing yourself as some objective critic who is the only who "truly" cares about anime to rate it low is elitism lol. It's all about attitudes not how you score or what you watch or don't watch. Also lazy? Really over anime scores lol?


A characteristic of an elitist, is claiming that current anime are and will always be inferior to past anime. I don't think like that.
But sure I am critical and try to be objective, which is nearly impossible.
Sorry but the cold hard truth is, ANIME FANS ARE LAZY, WHEN IT COMES TO RATING THEY'RE ANIME. Why else would they simplify the 1/10 scale and reduce it to a 6/10 one, calling a 7/10 average. If that's not lazy and taking an "I can't be bothered" attitude, then what is.
Posturing though above others over simply enjoying media is elitism. You can only like old anime and not be an elitist because you don't view yourself superior for doing so. I have seen plenty of casuals fans of popular anime like AOT that I would argue are elitists because they actively tried to run down other fans personally over media. Not every opinion is well informed but on media why does it have to be? Who cares if some people don't care about making use of the entire rating system. My ratings are for me and me alone. I don't' care how others view it or what it does to the aggregate score. Others feeling the same way doesn't make them lazy. It's arbitrary rating at the end of the day. That simple. 
Jan 25, 2023 12:50 AM

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Honestly speaking, everyone has their own favorites, right? It may be funny to see that some people rated anime that you don’t even like to watch to begin with. But this question is important and it is nice to know that everyone is different. How about this? Instead of comparing our differences, let’s start sharing what we have in common? Oh my! My answer is way out of the topic hehe… But I’m glad to meet people with whom they can share other anime that I haven’t seen or watched before. We are free to share our opinion, but let’s avoid the insultance and such that can really hurt someone. Let’s all be friends.

you're thinking of a website called twitter
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Not every opinion is well informed but on media why does it have to be?

Because some people choose what to watch based on scores, members, reviews and someone's recommendation.
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Who cares if some people don't care about making use of the entire rating system.

I personally view people like them as lazy.
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My ratings are for me and me alone. I don't' care how others view it or what it does to the aggregate score.

Than why bother rating on MAL at all, rate them in a folder on your computer, by yourself and for yourself.
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Others feeling the same way doesn't make them lazy. It's arbitrary rating at the end of the day. That simple. 

I agree, as long as it's feeling and not acting. The second part I agree with.
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First of all I don't think most of us even try to pick a show which has a mal rating of below 7.0 (which U know kinda explains a lot) and second why would anyone torture their eyes to watch an anime which they don't like even if it has an 8+ rating and most important of all people are afraid to disagree that an anime is trash because they are afraid of being an outcast which even if you don't think is affecting your rating subconsciously cuz a community affects the rating very much.
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Because 5-6 is MID tier....
7 is just good enough to be better than mid
8-10 is like actually great all the way to masterpiece

Anything below 5 has to be actually trash....i've seen a lot of anime and i'd I do give some below 5 ratings, but generally anything below a 5 is trash and 5-6 is mid

I mostly only watch anime I know will be good so that's probably why most my ratings are 6+ above because if it's lower than a 6 i'd probably not watch it anyway unless it's like some classic overhyped anime everyone talks about that ends up being literal garbage 

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