Would you still give a high rating to a well-made anime even if it promotes messages against your beliefs?
| If I actually think the anime is promoting or glorifying something harmful or dangerous in a way that isn't clearly parodical or cynical and actually makes people buy into its ideals, then yes, I will hate that anime, if I care enough. But I can really only remember one case of that in my 7k anime that I've seen and that's Shigatsu and how it handled mental health as if getting bullied and forced into extremely uncomfortable situations is somehow healing and not traumatizing when done by a cute girl that's dying. I found it disgusting and don't wish anyone who suffers from trauma irl to ever meet a person like that who's insistent on traumatizing them even deeper. And somehow all of that is being frames as a good thing in the show and is supposed to be touching instead of disgusting. I couldn't get over it and still hate the show for it today. There's also some shows that clearly promote nationalism and related ideals (Mahouka & Gate come to mind), but they're usually so silly and hard to take seriously that I enjoy them for how dumb and entertaining they are. I don't really condone that kind of messaging, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as misrepresentation of mental health which is way more universal of a theme. Although I hate the expression, you could say I can ironically watch and enjoy those kind of shows because of how heavy-handed the propaganda is. Shigatsu was different because I saw so many people actually praise it for how it handled trauma and mental health when it literally showcased the absolute worst and most harmful way of dealing with it, and that just made me turn from just not liking the show to treating it like it's actively harmful. Hrybami said: I may be wrong, but if an anime was supposed to be propaganda then it wouldn't be a fictional story. Because if it was the work as a propaganda, it would mean that the fiction affect the reality and that is pretty clear that it isn't case. Unless the creator's goal was to promote things to the 0.1% of people who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, then this "promotion" is not any more effective than trying to boil water by shaking it with a spoon. That's a pretty naive take tbh. Propaganda is often a lot more subtle than just telling you lies about reality. That's usually just the emergency version of propaganda used in immediate wars and stuff like that, but we're still faced with propaganda in our media during peaceful times. Stuff like how every villain in a hollywood movie tends to be from the ethnic background of whoever is america's #1 enemy at that time (russian during the soviet era, muslim after 9/11 etc...) is clearly propaganda in some way to unite the populace against the idea of a common enemy (and how they look like), for example. It doesn't need to be deep-fakes of real politicians or whatever to be propaganda, always portraying certain things in extremely positive or negative ways in fiction is also a form of propaganda that will tricker down to the minds of the people if kept up for long enough. Movies like The Birth of a Nation or even American Sniper clearly contain elements of propaganda despite not being documentaries but fictionalizations. You can also talk about chinese media in that regard, where certain topics are banned, certain scenes get removed or rewritten for release there and you rarely see a movie that doesn't at least have some sort of sub-theme that's deeply rooted in chinese culture. All of that happens in fictional movies because the chinese government knows the power of fiction to impact the minds of viewers. It's usually less about direct propaganda straight-up trying to tell people what to do or think, but more about subtle values being transmitted by fiction, especially over time when it's common in a lot of stuff to the point where it becomes the accepted norm for viewers. For example the red scare in the US was, among other things, heavily supported by propaganda in film and media, always making communism/socialism look evil for decades to the point where you can't even have a conversation about the topic now, 30+ years after the fall of the soviet union, with most americans because their hatred for these ideologies is so deeply ingrained into their DNA at this point. Stuff like that does happen and it does work very well and it has very little to do with people being unable to tell the difference between reality and fiction. People don't need to believe a specific story actually happened to buy into the idea that some of the underlying values are reflecting the real world to some degree (like which side in a conflict is 'evil' and which side is 'good', even if told through a fictional story). And that's how media/fiction can shape our perception of the world. Heck, Hollywood is one of the biggest and most successful tools of america's imperialism to this day, spreading the american way of thinking globally to generations of people. Stuff like the american dream and they way it is portrayed in movies and TV is for the most part just a propaganda tool to show the world how great america is compared to the rest of the globe, for example. I don't want to disgress too much, but I always find it funny when people think propaganda cannot and does not happen in fiction. The people who hold those beliefs so firmly are usually the easiest targets for it too, because they don't even realize when it happens, which is all the time, just subtly. I'm sure you yourself hold some values that have been absorbed from or at least shaped or supported by seeing them over and over again in fiction to the point where you don't even question them but just take them for granted, as facts. We all do. The only difference is whether you're trying to be aware of it or are in denial about it, the latter being the ideal case for it to work. |
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Alcoholicide said: If I actually think the anime is promoting or glorifying something harmful or dangerous in a way that isn't clearly parodical or cynical and actually makes people buy into its ideals, then yes, I will hate that anime, if I care enough. But I can really only remember one case of that in my 7k anime that I've seen and that's Shigatsu and how it handled mental health as if getting bullied and forced into extremely uncomfortable situations is somehow healing and not traumatizing when done by a cute girl that's dying. I found it disgusting and don't wish anyone who suffers from trauma irl to ever meet a person like that who's insistent on traumatizing them even deeper. And somehow all of that is being frames as a good thing in the show and is supposed to be touching instead of disgusting. I couldn't get over it and still hate the show for it today. There's also some shows that clearly promote nationalism and related ideals (Mahouka & Gate come to mind), but they're usually so silly and hard to take seriously that I enjoy them for how dumb and entertaining they are. I don't really condone that kind of messaging, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as misrepresentation of mental health which is way more universal of a theme. Although I hate the expression, you could say I can ironically watch and enjoy those kind of shows because of how heavy-handed the propaganda is. Shigatsu was different because I saw so many people actually praise it for how it handled trauma and mental health when it literally showcased the absolute worst and most harmful way of dealing with it, and that just made me turn from just not liking the show to treating it like it's actively harmful. Hrybami said: I may be wrong, but if an anime was supposed to be propaganda then it wouldn't be a fictional story. Because if it was the work as a propaganda, it would mean that the fiction affect the reality and that is pretty clear that it isn't case. Unless the creator's goal was to promote things to the 0.1% of people who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, then this "promotion" is not any more effective than trying to boil water by shaking it with a spoon. That's a pretty naive take tbh. Propaganda is often a lot more subtle than just telling you lies about reality. That's usually just the emergency version of propaganda used in immediate wars and stuff like that, but we're still faced with propaganda in our media during peaceful times. Stuff like how every villain in a hollywood movie tends to be from the ethnic background of whoever is america's #1 enemy at that time (russian during the soviet era, muslim after 9/11 etc...) is clearly propaganda in some way to unite the populace against the idea of a common enemy (and how they look like), for example. It doesn't need to be deep-fakes of real politicians or whatever to be propaganda, always portraying certain things in extremely positive or negative ways in fiction is also a form of propaganda that will tricker down to the minds of the people if kept up for long enough. Movies like The Birth of a Nation or even American Sniper clearly contain elements of propaganda despite not being documentaries but fictionalizations. You can also talk about chinese media in that regard, where certain topics are banned, certain scenes get removed or rewritten for release there and you rarely see a movie that doesn't at least have some sort of sub-theme that's deeply rooted in chinese culture. All of that happens in fictional movies because the chinese government knows the power of fiction to impact the minds of viewers. It's usually less about direct propaganda straight-up trying to tell people what to do or think, but more about subtle values being transmitted by fiction, especially over time when it's common in a lot of stuff to the point where it becomes the accepted norm for viewers. For example the red scare in the US was, among other things, heavily supported by propaganda in film and media, always making communism/socialism look evil for decades to the point where you can't even have a conversation about the topic now, 30+ years after the fall of the soviet union, with most americans because their hatred for these ideologies is so deeply ingrained into their DNA at this point. Stuff like that does happen and it does work very well and it has very little to do with people being unable to tell the difference between reality and fiction. People don't need to believe a specific story actually happened to buy into the idea that some of the underlying values are reflecting the real world to some degree (like which side in a conflict is 'evil' and which side is 'good', even if told through a fictional story). And that's how media/fiction can shape our perception of the world. Heck, Hollywood is one of the biggest and most successful tools of america's imperialism to this day, spreading the american way of thinking globally to generations of people. Stuff like the american dream and they way it is portrayed in movies and TV is for the most part just a propaganda tool to show the world how great america is compared to the rest of the globe, for example. I don't want to disgress too much, but I always find it funny when people think propaganda cannot and does not happen in fiction. The people who hold those beliefs so firmly are usually the easiest targets for it too, because they don't even realize when it happens, which is all the time, just subtly. I'm sure you yourself hold some values that have been absorbed from or at least shaped or supported by seeing them over and over again in fiction to the point where you don't even question them but just take them for granted, as facts. We all do. The only difference is whether you're trying to be aware of it or are in denial about it, the latter being the ideal case for it to work. I refused to believe it's the norm for most people. As it turned out those attempt at propaganda are the reasons why people generally make fun of China and America so I don't feel it can be applied to the larger portion of the population. Or if that is truly the case, then I've always thought people were smarter than they actually were. And no, I'm probably the least person on MAL who would take a fact for granted. My vision of reality is that the hard truth only lie where it can be demonstrated through fundamental maths. I don't even take the concept of time and space as fact, so let alone some bs messages spread through some entertainment devices. |
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MonkeeDan said: Right, this question does not apply to nihilists like yourself.I would need beliefs to begin with to rate based around them. |
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| That really depends on whether we're talking "different feelings and opinions" or "objectively incorrect", and also how damaging, if at all, the message is, and simply whether it makes a good case for it or a stupid case for it. But often, you don't even have to be judging the message actively for it to cause big problems. My favourite example of this is from a Doctor Who story called Androids of Tara. Much of this is about the threat that a "false prince" will become the new king, instead of the rightful heir. This leads to me not really enjoying the story, because I judge the notion that the first born prince should become the new ruler to be the ultimate in nepotism. But when watching the story, it merely manifests as me simply not caring about this thing which all the "good" characters think is important. And I just get bored. |
| I look at more than an anime just being well made when I decide what to rate it. Storytelling, characters, art and how it made me feel so including moral messages. But a bad message probably wouldn't make me rate it any lower compared to all those other things being good or poor. |
| Depends on how deeply and seriously I hold those views, and how much they're promoted in the show. Initial D is just glorification of illegal street racing, which I obviously don't condone, but I still gave it a pretty high rating. I used to be a teenager with petrolhead friends, so I understand the appeal. And at the end of the day, the characters generally act honorably (even the guy tailgates random people seems to stop acting scummy after being humbled) with the idea of the main character being kind of aimless before finding his true calling being relatable. |
| Beliefs are lies. I'm open minded, so yea. |
| People who say you can be objective when facing an art gosh... I don't see how I can find an anime that ''promotes'' things like pedophilia good. I don't see how it makes good writing. |
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| Anime which have moral critiques from me, independent from the story, do affect my enjoyment which effects my score. But not enough to hinder a high rating. I still gave Mushoku Tensei a 7. |
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| When an anime bores me I give it at most a 4/10 and at least a 2/10. If an anime annoys or pisses me off however, I give it a 3/10 or 1/10. So to answer your question, if it pissed me off, out of sheer spite I'd rate it lower than it deserves. |
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Deago said: Would you still give a high score to an anime that you thought had good writing and execution, as well as being well-animated and directed, but subtely promotes moral messages contrary to your personal beliefs (such as incest, slavery, or paedophilia) simply because you rate anime from an objective standpoint or based on enjoyment and ignore subjective ethical principles? Incest, slavery and paedophilia are objectively wrong. Your question is both loaded and stupid. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
O_T_T said: Deago said: Would you still give a high score to an anime that you thought had good writing and execution, as well as being well-animated and directed, but subtely promotes moral messages contrary to your personal beliefs (such as incest, slavery, or paedophilia) simply because you rate anime from an objective standpoint or based on enjoyment and ignore subjective ethical principles? Incest, slavery and paedophilia are objectively wrong. Your question is both loaded and stupid. Then you don't understand what 'objectively' means because you lack basic historical and cultural knowledge. |
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| If its subtle I probably won't even notice it so yes. but if it isn't subtle it depends on how much it is promoting those beliefs and what exactly those beliefs are. |
| First off, personally, I've never seen an anime that actually "promotes" such things, listed by OP. Secondly, usage of subject matter as a plot device or whatever is ≠ to the "promotion" of said subject matter, including the subjects listed by the OP. |
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| I refuse to give any ratings on any anime to feed your unhealthy obsession with ratings and reviews...some of you don't even watch the anime, only influence voting by giving false ratings to promote popular shows like its a competition who see what ends the day on number 1 spot ... https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1921033 |
ryo-sanAug 8, 2022 2:41 PM
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| I only care if the story is good and coherent, if it checks those 2 points I don't give a damn if it contradicts my values, because is fiction and because artistic freedom is important for quality works |
| It would be the same as giving a poorly made anime a low rating, but one that supports my beliefs. I would rate it as it deserves to be rated. |
 
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| I don't find myself enjoying media that is TOO different from my beliefs so I don't generally finish those in the first place, or if I do, my utter lack of enjoyment has a significant impact on the rating. That said, even if I don't agree with something, if I can see any value in it, I'm still gonna rate it decently high even if I personally didn't enjoy it. So basically, I'm pretty flexible when it comes to stuff that is more sublte and in the realm of personal views, but very much not flexible when it comes to stuff humanity as a whole generally considers an inexcusable crime (rape, pedophilia, etc.), even if it's a fantasy world running on its own set of rules. |
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| If the story is well written I don't care if it shows the most darkest aspects of mankind. A big example being Berzerk. |
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Deago said: O_T_T said: Incest, slavery and paedophilia are objectively wrong. Your question is both loaded and stupid. Then you don't understand what 'objectively' means because you lack basic historical and cultural knowledge. Cultures that condone such acts are likewise objectively wrong. In fact a culture seeing such acts as anything less is entirely due to a subjective perspective. Not to mention that, regardless of both those points, "it was Ok in the past" is not a valid argument in any context. You would first need to show that whatever cultures you're thinking of are in the objective right, which, I'll save you the trouble, they aren't. I shall also point out, so that you are aware - the fact that you disagree with an act as obviously heinous as paedophilia, well, you can imagine what my conclusion about you as an individual is. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| absolutely. as long as the message is well put together, and knows how to handle itseld right, not only i won't get bothered by it, i will like it more. |
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| no i am a very opiniated person, something that dishonors my values doesn't make me like it. so no |
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O_T_T said: Deago said: Then you don't understand what 'objectively' means because you lack basic historical and cultural knowledge. Cultures that condone such acts are likewise objectively wrong. In fact a culture seeing such acts as anything less is entirely due to a subjective perspective. Not to mention that, regardless of both those points, "it was Ok in the past" is not a valid argument in any context. You would first need to show that whatever cultures you're thinking of are in the objective right, which, I'll save you the trouble, they aren't. I shall also point out, so that you are aware - the fact that you disagree with an act as obviously heinous as paedophilia, well, you can imagine what my conclusion about you as an individual is. And how would you demonstrate that we currently and objectively know what is moral, when the future humanity from your perspective would say that we, the present ones, are also objectively wrong? In any case, how do you prove the morality of contentious issues like abortion, religions, prostitution, naturism, veganism, gun law, drug law, same-sex marriage, or the 'objective' age of consent? Who decides what constitutes "moral objectivism"? You? Your God? |
DeagoAug 10, 2022 1:52 PM
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| I'd probably rate it higher than something I agree with. |
Deago said: And how would you demonstrate that we currently and objectively know what is moral, when the future humanity from your perspective would say that we, the present ones, are also objectively wrong? First, you're dodging the question. You are claiming such acts aren't objectively wrong, you need to demonstrate that. For you to ask me to show the opposite suggests you have no genuine justification for thinking what you do, and instead choose to rely on an Appeal to Ignorance. Second, you have absolutely no way to know what future civilisations will think, you are merely hoping that they hold a negative view of us, since that suits your position. It's also completely irrelevant, since I've already established that what is acceptable within particular cultures during their existence does not inform objective morality. In any case, how do you prove the morality of contentious issues like abortion, religions, prostitution, naturism, veganism, gun law, drug law, same-sex marriage, or the 'objective' age of consent? I would have you first prove any of those issues are contentious or currently relevant. You're clearly trying to distract from the point. Who decides what constitutes "moral objectivism"? You? Your God? The definition of the word "objective" tells you exactly how it is defined. Trusting that you aren't looking it up as you read, do you know what the word means? Anyway, you haven't attempted to reinforce your earlier argument in relation to culture. You may want to try and do so, otherwise I shall have to conclude you've conceded there. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| What does "promote" mean in the context you're employing the term? Because far far too many people use it entirely too loosely and interchangeably with "depicting". As if a series or film depicting someone saying, thinking, or doing something is promoting it, whereas in actuality it's adding detail to the plot and characters of a story. Sure, the way something is framed can be interpreted as propaganda to advance a particular single idea or entire set of values or ideology, but in truth, because humans are inseparable from bias, that's something present, intentionally or not, in all artwork, all entertainment, and all media. It's just that it usually goes undetected and invisible to people when it agrees with, affirms, and reinforces their already pre-existing beliefs and worldview. The closest thing coming to something turning me off or annoying me due to an element of perceived messaging potentially either indicative of the writer's own viewpoint or as a result of being subject to external pressure (bureaucratic committee design oversight, social media pressure mobs, etc.) was the pervasive anti-age gap propaganda in Higehiro. Nemo_Niemand said: If something is against my beliefs I just drop it. Why should I endure it in the first place? And it's not about incest, slavery, pedophilia or something controversial like that. It's something more subtle. For example, Inuyasha. A guy and his gang brutally murders and eats a whole village, including little kids. And then the main heroine be like: "Wait, I think he is not this bad. Actually, he is a good guy". And then he periodically appears in the show and gets portrayed as someone kind and generous. No atonement for his deeds. It was not even mentioned anymore. As if it was something unimportant and absolutely ok. That was a big no for me. You should specify that he was/is a youkai. Humans are considered a lower form of life and food for some youkai. It's really no different than humans eating a whole group of cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, sheep, or goats. |
WatchTillTandavaAug 11, 2022 7:18 AM
WatchTillTandava said: Nemo_Niemand said: If something is against my beliefs I just drop it. Why should I endure it in the first place? And it's not about incest, slavery, pedophilia or something controversial like that. It's something more subtle. For example, Inuyasha. A guy and his gang brutally murders and eats a whole village, including little kids. And then the main heroine be like: "Wait, I think he is not this bad. Actually, he is a good guy". And then he periodically appears in the show and gets portrayed as someone kind and generous. No atonement for his deeds. It was not even mentioned anymore. As if it was something unimportant and absolutely ok. That was a big no for me. You should specify that he was/is a youkai. Humans are considered a lower form of life and food for some youkai. It's really no different than humans eating a whole group of cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, sheep, or goats. But I still don't think it's ok for a human heroine. Like, a guy considers you a lower form of life and a food and murdered/ate many of your kind before, while you keep saying that he's a good guy. That's strange. |
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JaniSIr said: Harem in the Labyrinth of Another WorldI mean, what beliefs are we talking about exactly? Kinda hard to say without specific examples. The message: Sex slavery is good as long as your slaves are well treated. In case you think this anime is well-written, well-excuted, and well-animated, would you still give it a high rating if you oppose sex slavery? |
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Deago said: I specifically decided to add that series to my PTW list because it's messed up. JaniSIr said: Harem in the Labyrinth of Another WorldI mean, what beliefs are we talking about exactly? Kinda hard to say without specific examples. The message: Sex slavery is good as long as your slaves are well treated. In case you think this anime is well-written, well-excuted, and well-animated, would you still give it a high rating if you oppose sex slavery? |
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JaniSIr said: Okay, that doesn't answer anything, but please return later after watching it and tell me if you deducted points from the work BECAUSE it promotes sex slavery.Deago said: I specifically decided to add that series to my PTW list because it's messed up. Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World The message: Sex slavery is good as long as your slaves are well treated. In case you think this anime is well-written, well-excuted, and well-animated, would you still give it a high rating if you oppose sex slavery? |
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Deago said: Okay, that doesn't answer anything, but please return later after watching it and tell me if you deducted points from the work BECAUSE it promotes sex slavery. There is no way either of us will remember this conversation minimum 6 weeks from now. |
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JaniSIr said: Deago said: Okay, that doesn't answer anything, but please return later after watching it and tell me if you deducted points from the work BECAUSE it promotes sex slavery. There is no way either of us will remember this conversation minimum 6 weeks from now. Not if I add a screenshot of this conversation on my profile. |
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Deago said: JaniSIr said: There is no way either of us will remember this conversation minimum 6 weeks from now. Not if I add a screenshot of this conversation on my profile. Please don't do that. Anyway, having a morally grey or straight up horrible protagonist can make for really entertaining stories. You could probably find something that makes me mad too though. |
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| I don't rate anime, so I will change the term "high rating" here into "I liked it." Monogatari series is one of my favorite anime and it included incest, pedophilia. Does that means I'm supporting them? No. I admit they were disturbing, but it simply doesn't matter, because the greatness in other qualities are what made me like Monogatari. I can simply ignore mistakes on something I like, it doesn't matter, this is just a videography entertainment which purpose is to gain fun. On the other hand, I could dislike something that has the exact same elements simply because I disliked them and I don't find what would made it to be likeable. Liking anime is subjective and always ever subjective, case closed. |
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Aruchemist said: Liking anime is subjective and always ever subjective, case closed. I know, I just used the phrase "rating anime objectively" to make a bait question for those who claim to rate anime objectively. Users who know me well know that I have always been opposed to 'objective rating'. |
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JaniSIr said: But you're missing the point. Depicting a horrible protagonist does not automatically imply that the author is attempting to make sense of the protagonist's morality; in fact, when the author is attempting to persuade an audience to further an agenda, they depict the characters with the agenda as 'good', while characters who oppose the agenda as 'bad'. Please don't do that. Anyway, having a morally grey or straight up horrible protagonist can make for really entertaining stories. You could probably find something that makes me mad too though. For example, depicting an isekai enslaver protagonist treating his slaves well and the female slaves as agreeable, while depicting those opposed to the protagonist as ugly one-dimensional rapists is typical pro-slavery propaganda; implying that slavery is good as long as you treat your slaves well. |
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| I would argue that there is no such thing as an "objective" review or rating in a medium as subjective as entertainment media. Everybody has different standards for what they consider good or bad and how these things should be measured "objectively". The only truly objective things about an anime are things like "is it in color or black and white" for example. I rate based on my personal enjoyment because that's the only metric that really counts to me when it comes to entertainment media anyway. |
Deago said: JaniSIr said: But you're missing the point. Depicting a horrible protagonist does not automatically imply that the author is attempting to make sense of the protagonist's morality; in fact, when the author is attempting to persuade an audience to further an agenda, they depict the characters with the agenda as 'good', while characters who oppose the agenda as 'bad'. Please don't do that. Anyway, having a morally grey or straight up horrible protagonist can make for really entertaining stories. You could probably find something that makes me mad too though. For example, depicting an isekai enslaver protagonist treating his slaves well and the female slaves as agreeable, while depicting those opposed to the protagonist as ugly one-dimensional rapists is typical pro-slavery propaganda; implying that slavery is good as long as you treat your slaves well. Do you know what made me mad? Made in abyss depicting child labor, and yeeting kids into certain death as good. |
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| No I won't, I won't enjoy such a series in the first place because I'm sure it will have multiple scenes that I would find annoying or straight up piss me off. I still make exceptions to psychological horror stuff though these types are supposed to be messed up to begin with, I don't think they are doing it to promote any messages. |
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Pit93 said: Yes, I was simply baiting those who claim to rate objectively.I would argue that there is no such thing as an "objective" review or rating in a medium as subjective as entertainment media. Everybody has different standards for what they consider good or bad and how these things should be measured "objectively". The only truly objective things about an anime are things like "is it in color or black and white" for example. I rate based on my personal enjoyment because that's the only metric that really counts to me when it comes to entertainment media anyway. Maou_heika said: Yes, those don't count.I still make exceptions to psychological horror stuff though these types are supposed to be messed up to begin with, I don't think they are doing it to promote any messages. |
DeagoAug 13, 2022 4:24 AM
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| I watched a great anime once. It was going to give it at least a 9 but... the ending. I hated it a lot. It was overly positive, there's no way any normal person would think like that. I could hear the voice of the author saying "no matter how badly others treat you, never hate humanity or stop believing in it". I wanted to puke and got so angry I gave it a 1. This happened more than once, my 1 is actually "I found this anime to be against my personal believes to an offending level". |
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