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May 22, 2021 1:24 PM
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I really liked the direction of this episode.

The Republic trying to kill off the 86ers seemed quite obvious but didn't know that this is how they'd execute it.

May 22, 2021 2:37 PM

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An episode packed with nothing but the truth. The production quality really blows me away every episode.

"Will you remember us?" This question gives me flashbacks to Terror in Resonance. The 86 soldiers have accepted their fate long ago, but they still wish for someone to remember they existed. That part of the episode was really sad.

I personally don't think Lena can do much to help, she can't oppose the Republic. She asked them why they didn't flee, but they didn't answer. I wonder if it's at all possible.

I can only expect the remaining episodes to get gloomier.
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May 22, 2021 3:06 PM
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samashi20 said:
An episode packed with nothing but the truth. The production quality really blows me away every episode.

"Will you remember us?" This question gives me flashbacks to Terror in Resonance. The 86 soldiers have accepted their fate long ago, but they still wish for someone to remember they existed. That part of the episode was really sad.

I personally don't think Lena can do much to help, she can't oppose the Republic. She asked them why they didn't flee, but they didn't answer. I wonder if it's at all possible.

I can only expect the remaining episodes to get gloomier.


In the LN they asnwered. Wonder why they cut it out. Basically nowhere to run. In front of them are the Legion, behind them is a wall with a minefield.
May 22, 2021 3:19 PM

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nooooo i dont wanna wait another week for the next episode, this show is so good T-T
well to be honest it wasn't a surprise for me that they are there to die but still thinking about it makes me sad
anyways what was the thing on anjus back??
May 22, 2021 3:22 PM

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I didn't expect the execution ground part. So Alba has zero intention of keeping their 5 years promise. I wonder if there was someone before Shin who actually made it to 5 years and their fate. (like being able to just do operations solo on the grounds, did they still get executed by a squad right away?)

That new legion super artillery will be Shin's brother if I had to make a guess but how are they gonna take down such thing that can nuke them from far, they don't even have enough people as is.

I also wonder if Lena will have some words for her asshole unlce.
May 22, 2021 3:23 PM

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Great episode. The first half is about Lena giving their supplies and her little gift to them. The firework rounds. Lena is being cute this episode with her black dress and Annette too is elegant with her dress.

The second half is about spearhead squad celebrating and they lose some teammates this episode and that transition and directing is superb this week. The first sneak peek of how powerful the long range artillery shows how devastating when it hits you. That attack killed 4 soldiers.

The next part is the revelation of why the republic does not gave them back up because they are on execution grounds and waiting their demise but the spearhead squadron wasnt lose without fighting to the end and they had their pride as 86ers.

Overall they adapt it faithfully and best episode yet of 86


May 22, 2021 3:28 PM

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UTMAN said:
samashi20 said:
An episode packed with nothing but the truth. The production quality really blows me away every episode.

"Will you remember us?" This question gives me flashbacks to Terror in Resonance. The 86 soldiers have accepted their fate long ago, but they still wish for someone to remember they existed. That part of the episode was really sad.

I personally don't think Lena can do much to help, she can't oppose the Republic. She asked them why they didn't flee, but they didn't answer. I wonder if it's at all possible.

I can only expect the remaining episodes to get gloomier.


In the LN they asnwered. Wonder why they cut it out. Basically nowhere to run. In front of them are the Legion, behind them is a wall with a minefield.


Minefields were mentioned last episode by Jerome. Although it would have been worth it to remind the viewers and give a clearer picture. We already know 86th sector is basically sandwiched between fortified walls and legion up front cause lena pointed out the 86th sector location in episode 2. A ragged squad has nowhere to go.

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nooooo i dont wanna wait another week for the next episode, this show is so good T-T
well to be honest it wasn't a surprise for me that they are there to die but still thinking about it makes me sad
anyways what was the thing on anjus back??


Anju has been subject to persecution in the camps due to having mixed alba blood. Raiden mentioned this in the episode. Those scars are a product of this. She’s been hiding those scars carved into her back, and they are actually words. And in the LN, those words were clear in what they spelled. They spelled
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May 22, 2021 3:29 PM

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So, the 86 were nothing more than just canon fodders whom were meant to die in battle, they never bother letting those Legions take out them white pigs but they also never thought about fighting back against those so called "white pigs."

Watta pity, they should've have just defected to the Gaidian Empire.
May 22, 2021 3:40 PM

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''Will you remember us as well, Major?'' Ohhh.... beautiful synesthetic scene, the sound tracking slowly rising omg.. I hate this phrase because every time i see it I remember Shigatsu. THE FEELS
May 22, 2021 3:56 PM
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
So, the 86 were nothing more than just canon fodders whom were meant to die in battle, they never bother letting those Legions take out them white pigs but they also never thought about fighting back against those so called "white pigs."

Watta pity, they should've have just defected to the Gaidian Empire.
They already mentioned the Empire fell.
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May 22, 2021 4:00 PM

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Willing to choose the way you want to face the gallows but still not wanting to die either way. What a fatalistic and at the same time idealistic way of living, really. Twist doesn't really come as a surprise but it still sucks just knowing how hopeless it all is for them. As a whole the anime has done a very good job in showing this duality in the 86's way of life - all of them just passing their days seemingly carefree, while knowing unavoidable death is staring them in the face at every turn.

Shin actually called his girlfriend because she didn't at the usual time, how cute. Speaking of Shin again he busts out the creepy smile once hearing Rei's voice. Guy really just wants to end it already and by it I mean his life, probably. It's interesting to find out he's apparently also a noble though. Wonder what his ties with Giad are exactly.

Lena is an angel, Annette is a fun bitch, Haruto replaced the death shot in the OP so I guess he's going next, Anju clearly carrying a very heavy burden and these episodes are getting shorter and shorter by the week :/
May 22, 2021 4:12 PM
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I've actually read a lot of comments that were saying that literally all of them die besides Shin, with that preview of the next episode, I think that it's kinda clear now how things are going to go. This just goes to show what can happen if power is given to the wrong "humans", generally speaking, or maybe in this case, if the wrong people reach the power. They abuse it across any border of common sense.... Huh, like "common sense" or "humanity" ever existed for those kinds of "humans".

This episode clears half of the things up I guess, they are there to 'execute' their inevitable death and fight for nothing in return just because they are considered "elites" that could start a rebellion. No replacements, no supplies, no help, isolated, just waiting to die, one by one. This is just sad.

I still wonder though, how the other units are holding on, Raiden also said that not every 86 is a good human so this makes the situation for the actual good people even harder. I also don't understand how the Alba managed to bring the other race down, was there an inside job that made the normal people's power collapse? Or what power did the Alba hold from the very start? I guess that we'll find out in the next episodes..

Even though I was confused for more than half of the show, I somehow feel sad that there are only 5 episodes left. I wish that it was a 24 episodes show, but maybe there is a 2nd season coming after this? I haven't read the manga so Idk.
May 22, 2021 4:48 PM
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Yet another amazing monologue from Shin to seal the first half, and a solid speech from Raiden to close the second half.

Anju and Kurena's scene in the shower was also interesting. It's sweet to see Anju open up to Kurena, and explain her worries for her friends/comrades. Though, she should't have to worry about her scars, Daiya was telling the truth when he said her hair is beautiful - beautiful enough to negate the scars, until she can hopefully embrace them </3

It was cool to see Lena in a dress too. She may say that she chose black to avoid dancing, but we all know it's because it compliments her well - the fireworks in the background too made her look even more stunning ^^
May 22, 2021 4:56 PM
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We get to see the festival from both sides and Lena was kind enough to send them fireworks. Lena finally learns the truth from Shin about the 86 division being a killing field as the Alba continues to use them as meat shields and there are no backup to save them until they are all wiped out. Despite all that the 86 are willing to fight even though what the Alba is doing to them is wrong. The only thing Lena can do right now is to not let the 86 die, but that is starting to become harder for her as the Legion is packing some serious firepower.

What happened to Anju's back? Is that some sort of writing or is it scars?
So the thing about Anju is that


Every week I'm surprised how A-1 is able to elevate the LN. The first book was super strong as is, but they keep finding ways to improve upon it. You can really tell that this is an adaptation in the truest sense, not just an attempt to make a commercial for some light novels.
May 22, 2021 5:00 PM
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not gonna pretend i don't lol at "white pigs" as if this author didn't know wtf he was doing LMAO

i see Dababy is in the next episode
May 22, 2021 5:01 PM
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not gonna pretend i don't lol at "white pigs" as if this author didn't know wtf he was doing LMAO

i see Dababy is in the next episode
Author is a woman actually.
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May 22, 2021 5:49 PM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
not gonna pretend i don't lol at "white pigs" as if this author didn't know wtf he was doing LMAO

i see Dababy is in the next episode
Author is a woman actually.


ah well regardless, doesn't really change what i said
May 22, 2021 6:06 PM
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holy shit i just love how they portray racism in this anime

in real world we often see black and white conflict about how all oppressors are bad and how all oppressed are victims
people often ignores the reality that even oppressed people can oppress too

i love that spearhead squadron doesn't have that victim mentality
fight till the end for honor, even if the world will never know your name
every week i find new reason to love this anime


Well there is not only black and white in the real world, there are people of color too. These people are opprossed but also seems to oppress black when they can.
But anyway oppressors are always bad. No doubt about that

I also like the fact that they don't have victim mentality. And I think it's because it's useless. Their world is set up to kill them no matter what, they resign themselves to their fate.

But I think you're wrong on something. It's not about honor, the Pigs want them dead so their ultimate form of rebellion is to stay alive and win.
This show is not telling us an heroic story, it's just a death sentence
May 22, 2021 6:41 PM
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Damn I watched it again, it's indeed a masterpiece in making. Just delete that Lena character. She is acting way too melodramatic every time to the point it gets annoying. Why did the author have to put a tsundere in a war drama. She is almost like that tsundere from classroom of elite
Character development, don't close your eye on it, ofc she's like that considering she's not in the same position as them and tf, tsundere the hell. Read this link so you have some understanding on her character, not that I like her but I'm glad she's well written as a flawed character https://www.reddit.com/r/EightySix/comments/n91izq/spoilersessay_86_lena_systems_of_oppression_and/
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You obviously don't know what a Tsundere even is if you think Lena is one kek. And her reactions aren't melodramatic at all if you try to look at things from her perspective.

I think I am pretty sure YOU don't know what tsundere is m8.
Nah especially from her perspective ,the first time how she reacted over a death looked acceptable. But reacting the way she reacts as if she is still new to this makes no sense
What do you mean there is no sense, this is the first time the squadron open up to Lena and the first time she know the truth because her past squadron never open up to her because the hatred they have to the Albas, I think you're the one who doesn't know the tsundere, mate
May 22, 2021 6:56 PM

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Damn A1 just keeps killing it week after week. This is def AOTS and if for some reason Getter Arc underperforms then it could even be AOTY
May 22, 2021 7:00 PM
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There is more to it than whats been said, not sure if they'll explain it, so chose to open the spoiler with discretion.
i guess that would make sense . ( might as well put my comment in a tag , even though it aint really a spoiler) .

I think the reason is 90% of the Alba soldiers has been died in the battlefield for the first 9 years of war against the legion and they find something to blame on, like how Germany blames the Jews,Slav,Gypsies for their defeat in WW1 as stated by Hitler. Although they're numbers are more than the soldiers, I don't think you can fight back to people with firearms and sorts like WW2 did. Yet, the reason behind this is not yet fully explained by the author but the latest Vol is a prequel to everything what's happened so that's it.
May 22, 2021 7:30 PM
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The amount of world building every episode does is fantastic imo. Every episode adds a new piece to the whole picture.

I will guess they will use this season to build up everything regarding the world and characters before diving into the main plot in 2nd season.
May 22, 2021 7:51 PM
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I could have sworn this show was going to be one of those wanna-be deep shows based on how obvious it was with it's setup. The awkward spider design for the mechs made me feel I wouldn't like the action at all either.

But I was not expecting as much depth as there was with the story behind the callsign Undertaker and the Legion. That stuff was really interesting. I'm also finding myself more interested in the politics now that they've shown things aren't just black and white between the 86 and the Alba. It's more complicated than just "the 86 are not human" so politicians and media can say there aren't any causalities. Thank god lol. No way I could have watched this show if it kept going with that dull dynamic.
May 22, 2021 8:08 PM
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RebelPandaSFan said:
Damn I watched it again, it's indeed a masterpiece in making. Just delete that Lena character. She is acting way too melodramatic every time to the point it gets annoying. Why did the author have to put a tsundere in a war drama. She is almost like that tsundere from classroom of elite

If you've been invested in Lena this deeply you'll enjoy her character development greatly from here on after we done with Season 1. Just enjoy the ride. It will be slow, but enjoyable journey.
May 22, 2021 8:12 PM
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Please let Lena and Shin meet please don't end in a tragedy I don't want to be depress they should run away or fake their deaths.
You forgot we have 2 cour for this season?
May 22, 2021 8:48 PM

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Man, Lena is really having a rough time learning about how horrible the government is to people in the 86th. It wasn’t that big of a reveal that the Spearhead unit is essentially a suicide squad, but I didn’t even think about the government refusing to give them reinforcements so it increases the chances of them dying.

The reasons for the members of the 86 fighting despite this made sense too given that they are in a lose-lose situation where the best course of action aligns with the government.
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https://www.anikore.jp/anime/12730/

japanese don't like the white guilt anime as much lol.
May 22, 2021 9:08 PM
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thats weird cause the LN is pretty big over there. Then again 78 votes is nothing also some of the low reviews are memes lmao thanks for the entertaining reads though, cant blame the people judging the military tactics since the anime hasnt completely explained the battlefield situation especially in regards to airpower, ill just say its like the AA the Beta in MLA have + another layer that is denying humanities to ability to gain any reliable air superiority..

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west. Its very unlikely she even had a passing thought about that very american subject while writing this at least in relation to modern white guilt..
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
https://www.anikore.jp/anime/12730/

japanese don't like the white guilt anime as much lol.



Neion4ty7 said:
thats weird cause the LN is pretty big over there. Then again 78 votes is nothing also some of the low reviews are memes lmao thanks for the entertaining reads though, cant blame the people judging the military tactics since the anime hasnt completely explained the battlefield situation especially in regards to airpower, ill just say its like the AA the Beta in MLA have + another layer that is denying humanities to ability to gain any reliable air superiority..

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west.


There are a lot of sources out there like this one.
https://s.akiba-souken.com/anime/ranking/
May 22, 2021 9:28 PM
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addie1998 said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
https://www.anikore.jp/anime/12730/

japanese don't like the white guilt anime as much lol.



Neion4ty7 said:
thats weird cause the LN is pretty big over there. Then again 78 votes is nothing also some of the low reviews are memes lmao thanks for the entertaining reads though, cant blame the people judging the military tactics since the anime hasnt completely explained the battlefield situation especially in regards to airpower, ill just say its like the AA the Beta in MLA have + another layer that is denying humanities to ability to gain any reliable air superiority..

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west.


There are a lot of sources out there like this one.
https://s.akiba-souken.com/anime/ranking/


its 3rd on that one while being 1st in scifi anime ranking.

Which of these sites is bigger, do they have one which is like their version of MAL in overall userbase share? I kinda am interested in using a Japanese equivalent of MAL just to see how their opinions differ, I already do this for VNs(which are what i mainly read now) and its nice seeing the contrasting opinion due to both parties growing up with different writing conventions and such.
May 22, 2021 9:31 PM

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Even if ignoring everything else, I have to say the direction in this anime is top notch.


Kayle_x_Morgana said:
https://www.anikore.jp/anime/12730/

japanese don't like the white guilt anime as much lol.


Not that I know much about Japan but you gonna need more than 78 votes lol.
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addie1998 said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
https://www.anikore.jp/anime/12730/

japanese don't like the white guilt anime as much lol.



Neion4ty7 said:
thats weird cause the LN is pretty big over there. Then again 78 votes is nothing also some of the low reviews are memes lmao thanks for the entertaining reads though, cant blame the people judging the military tactics since the anime hasnt completely explained the battlefield situation especially in regards to airpower, ill just say its like the AA the Beta in MLA have + another layer that is denying humanities to ability to gain any reliable air superiority..

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west.


There are a lot of sources out there like this one.
https://s.akiba-souken.com/anime/ranking/


glad to see that vivy is dominating the charts even on that site as it should..... and that to your eternity is not, unlike here


Neion4ty7 said:
thats weird cause the LN is pretty big over there. Then again 78 votes is nothing also some of the low reviews are memes lmao thanks for the entertaining reads though, cant blame the people judging the military tactics since the anime hasnt completely explained the battlefield situation especially in regards to airpower, ill just say its like the AA the Beta in MLA have + another layer that is denying humanities to ability to gain any reliable air superiority..

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west. Its very unlikely she even had a passing thought about that very american subject while writing this at least in relation to modern white guilt..
i literally had to google what "anglos" even means.
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its 3rd on that one while being 1st in scifi anime ranking.

Which of these sites is bigger, do they have one which is like their version of MAL in overall userbase share? I kinda am interested in using a Japanese equivalent of MAL just to see how their opinions differ, I already do this for VNs(which are what i mainly read now) and its nice seeing the contrasting opinion due to both parties growing up with different writing conventions and such.


I'm sorry but i have no idea. But based on popularity on that dude site we are currently rank 6.

https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2021/spring/ac:tv/oc:favoriteCount/
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addie1998 said:
Neion4ty7 said:


its 3rd on that one while being 1st in scifi anime ranking.

Which of these sites is bigger, do they have one which is like their version of MAL in overall userbase share? I kinda am interested in using a Japanese equivalent of MAL just to see how their opinions differ, I already do this for VNs(which are what i mainly read now) and its nice seeing the contrasting opinion due to both parties growing up with different writing conventions and such.


I'm sorry but i have no idea. But based on popularity on that dude site we are currently rank 6.

https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2021/spring/ac:tv/oc:favoriteCount/


oh wtf 3.4 isnt even bad on that site vivy is only 3.8
May 22, 2021 9:50 PM
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Cruel reality doesn't know stopping. 86 should be saved in every way. It's not easy thing though.
I was impressed Raiden's words so much. "A HERO THAT DOESN'T EXIST."
May 22, 2021 9:53 PM

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Lena looked really cute in her dress and with all the makeup on.

It's kind of depressing to know that almost everybody is going to die in this series, and that there will probably only be a couple people who survive. Watching this gives me a feeling of exhilaration, and it's part of why I think 86 is the best anime of the season so far.
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Neion4ty7 said:

"white guilt anime" leave it up to anglos(lets be honest probably just Americans) to find a reason to make it about them lol. I have never heard this term for this series until the anime adaptation brought more light to the series to the sensitive, overly self-conscious west. Its very unlikely she even had a passing thought about that very american subject while writing this at least in relation to modern white guilt..


Yeah it's so weird. The settings is more close to Nazi Germany than anything. Most of the 86 can be classified as "white" anyway.
May 22, 2021 10:08 PM

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So the Spearhead squadron is basically the corridor of death, huh? Well, that's fucked up.

Again, I didn't feel anything for the ones who died this episode but as cold as I feel towards the 86ers, I don't know if I really want to know about the nightmare Anju had to go through to get those scars.

Overall, better than the previous episode. Direction was quite on point this week.

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What happened to Anju's back? Is that some sort of writing or is it scars?
Scars in the form of words... written with hot iron, most likely.
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holy shit i just love how they portray racism in this anime

in real world we often see black and white conflict about how all oppressors are bad and how all oppressed are victims
people often ignores the reality that even oppressed people can oppress too

i love that spearhead squadron doesn't have that victim mentality
fight till the end for honor, even if the world will never know your name
every week i find new reason to love this anime
I agree all the stuff from the spearhead squadron's perspective is great

however I don't like how they portray the Alba. The only situation where one race is treated so poorly is ethnic hatred, such as with the Nazi's hatred of the Jews. However there has been no attempt to explain or rationalise the Abla's hatred of the 86. I think these days we get so much material on the victims of racism, but nothing on the perpetrators, which often have even more complex and deep motives.

Not all Nazis hated the Jews, but they all pretended they did because of underlying social tension. There is no social tension here. Lena can casually support the 86 and everyone just gives her looks of pity, as if she's trying to help robot drones. However you don't hate drones. You don't massacre drones for the fun of it. You don't actively kill and toy with your fighting force when it actually puts the war effort in jeopardy. They are trying to go for a Nazi Germany and Soviet Union approach to second class citizens and it doesn't work because they have two different motivations

I have a theory that could justify this situation, however I don't want to know it it's correct because then that'll spoil the series for me
May 22, 2021 10:53 PM
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Well, I'd a feeling that this was the case but the drop still shook me a fair bit. Lena's cracked voice just said it all, really. Mad respect to the 86 members though, they're holding their heads up high despite the Republic's disgusting attitude towards them.

It's telling how the delivery men were bad-mouthing on the 86 and calling them puppets in front of their faces. I always assumed there was a bit of a gap in this sense but guess not.

Shin asking Lena whether she'll remember them plus the fireworks and the ost on high tempo, that's the kind of stuff I just love in the medium!

Good lord, that after credit scene though... Bad news, serious bad news. As if those torpedoes weren't already enough.
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Is this really a show where everyone is going to die? God dammit, every week is pure suffering.

That said, I'm glad we keep having cute Lena moments. She tripping in front of those 2 guys and turning all red was great <3.
May 22, 2021 11:27 PM
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That was such a deep episode bruh. Why do you have to hit me in the feels like that ffs ;_;

That aside, the truth has finally been revealed. Not all 86 are saints, and not all Alba from republic are pigs. That's what makes the world of 86 complex. There is not black or white, there's gray. And in this gray, the Spearhead Squadron is trying their level best to survive, in spite of the high mortality rate. After all the shit everyone has been through, I can only say one thing: FUCKING GLORY TO THE SPEARHEAD SQUADRON!

5/5 episode.
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FUCKIN' GLORY TO THE SPEARHEAD SQUADRON!
May 23, 2021 12:33 AM
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How can it still be under 8?
May 23, 2021 12:59 AM
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How can it still be under 8?


people that expected more action would have dropped it by now and scored it low also I have seen a fair bit of people have a low opinion about it whilst obviously having missed a lot of information when they talk about it which just goes with dialogue heavy shows when a majority rely on subs which especially in this episode were of questionable quality.

Another reason is there are people like me that don't score till the end and so haven't given it high scores yet. I'm sure it will go up after it finishes airing.
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So according to Raiden, the Alba are fully dependent on the 86 in the battle and will get screwed if they stopped fighting, which makes no sense, because who in their right mind would depend on someone who could turn against them at any moment! But I guess those 86 turned out to be good people, so it worked out somehow.

Honestly at first I had the impression that the Alba had an actual army but threw the 86 to the front lines as guinea pigs, I hope they have a good explanation for this in the next episodes.
May 23, 2021 1:19 AM
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DiabloMask said:
So according to Raiden, the Alba are fully dependent on the 86 in the battle and will get screwed if they stopped fighting, which makes no sense, because who in their right mind would depend on someone who could turn against them at any moment! But I guess those 86 turned out to be good people, so it worked out somehow.

Honestly at first I had the impression that the Alba had an actual army but threw the 86 to the front lines as guinea pigs, I hope they have a good explanation for this in the next episodes.


I don't think Raiden said anything about alba fully dependent on the 86.
May 23, 2021 1:32 AM

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addie1998 said:
DiabloMask said:
So according to Raiden, the Alba are fully dependent on the 86 in the battle and will get screwed if they stopped fighting, which makes no sense, because who in their right mind would depend on someone who could turn against them at any moment! But I guess those 86 turned out to be good people, so it worked out somehow.

Honestly at first I had the impression that the Alba had an actual army but threw the 86 to the front lines as guinea pigs, I hope they have a good explanation for this in the next episodes.


I don't think Raiden said anything about alba fully dependent on the 86.


I shouldn't have phrased my comment that way, my bad.
Anyway, Raiden did say "Revenge wouldn't even be hard, we'd just sit back and let the Legion through, we'd die of course but could take the pigs with us" that's implying that the Alba would be screwed, which wouldn't have been the case if they weren't dependent on the 86 to stop the Legion, if they had a more trustworthy army guarding them then that wouldn't be much of a problem.
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DiabloMask said:
So according to Raiden, the Alba are fully dependent on the 86 in the battle and will get screwed if they stopped fighting, which makes no sense, because who in their right mind would depend on someone who could turn against them at any moment! But I guess those 86 turned out to be good people, so it worked out somehow.

Honestly at first I had the impression that the Alba had an actual army but threw the 86 to the front lines as guinea pigs, I hope they have a good explanation for this in the next episodes.


The main army was obliterated in the 1st year (more accurately few months) of the war with the legion. Survivors either were sent to camps(not alba), decided to keep fighting like theos first commander or were given higher positions in the military (but with no real power like lenas father and uncle) they technically still have an army as you can see from the lazy fucks always drinking and shit but they rarely train at all as most were recruited in order to round up the non Alba initially or joined after that. They do have a mine field and thousands of artillery batteries(most don't end up working due to low maintenance and dud rounds) in case the 86 do fail. On paper they have an army but reliable isn't a word i'd use to describe them especially since they expect the legion to shutdown in 2 years as per their programming and the fall of the giad empire.

The reason the alba have become reliant on the 86 is because the 1st few generations fought with the hope of having their families be sent back into the walls, which was a lie but the 86 probably werent 100% sure until probably Reis generation of conscripts and so by now the alba have no reason to think the 86 will just sit and die since the first few waves of 86 fought for their families and shit and they just expect the same.
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