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biswa290701 said: Now that we are done with all the question arcs then we have got all the bits of the puzzle and we can finally form our theories of what exactly happened in this new loop of events. Oh boy can't wait to find all the answers. Nekodamashi-hen doesn't seem like an answer arc honestly so don't get your hopes up expecting answers then we get more questions. |
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Watching it back you are right, it's left vague as to exactly how any specific person was killed/died. Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Gar_Logan said: I've been watching a lot of youtube theories about this season, and one theory that has come up many times is that Hinamizawa Syndrome might not exist in Gou. (Not exactly sure how that would work, but it definitely hasn't been presented in the same way as past series). Theory from this timestamp I agree it isn't the strongest theory based on having characters scratch their throats and go crazy so far, but it's still interesting I think! |
Gar_LoganDec 24, 2020 1:10 PM
| andddd that marks the halfway mark. So much happened this episode, from satoko being freed to her uncle and all of Keiichi's friends (save for rika) killed. Well, serves the uncle right. Get fucked lmao. We didnt get to see the barge in on the hojou residence this time. Probably so they could have the ending scene with Keiichi and Teppei beating the shit out of each other... What a fun watanagashi this year! |
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ukagaka said: Genuinely irrelevant concern but seeing Rena in a long-sleeved version of her uniform makes me wonder how long K1 was out for. Long enough for it to start getting cold in Hinamizawa? If you look at the trees, it looks like it's already late autumn. The main events take place in June. Hmm... |
| No idea what is going on anymore Execution and animation are pretty bad tho. |
| Anyway, the only thing that is consistent through these arcs is the fact that Keiichi always survives, and he's ALWAYS not presented when shit goes down and everyone dies. |
| Truly losing it about this one, lads. Can't disagree more with the "oh this arc was boring" lamentations though, I feel the same way about people who said that of Minagoroshi. I don't mean to sound pretentious, but I think if that's your viewpoint you don't really like what Higurashi is actually about, just the shock value of it all. Higurashi as a story has fundamentally always been about the exact types of themes Minagoroshi dwells on. If the CWS stuff comes across as boring or uneventful to you, that's your taste and that's fine, but that's Higurashi. To expect it to have less of that heart is to expect it to be a completely different story. At which point you might as well just watch something else. |
Devil_Slayer said: Anyway, the only thing that is consistent through these arcs is the fact that Keiichi always survives, and he's ALWAYS not presented when shit goes down and everyone dies. Looks more like budget cuts. |
jTiKey said: AHAHAHA the fuck This was the most absurd ending yet. Keichi killed the uncle after being hit with a bat to the head? Was the original this bad too? Each arc just tops the previous one with the awfulness. You need to doubt about everything what happens when the red filter appears. All of this happens on the meta world and not the "real world". |
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The version of this theory I've seen, which also seems not really feasible is |
ovy7 said: After reading other's comments and thinking about it, I think that Keiichi got his on his head by one of Satoko's traps that went wrong. The entire fight with Teppei was an hallucination, but not from K1, but from Satoko. That was also my first thought when the scene happened. But with Oishi going crazy, I have no idea how that fits into the big picture. I'll probably need some time to digest this arc. We still have too little info to solve the mystery though. What happened to Takano, Irie, and Tomitake in this arc for example? |
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| And here I thought that it was gonna be a happy ending but instead we got Satoko's uncle hitting Maebara with a baseball bat soon Maebara steal the baseball bat and beat the hell out of Satoko's uncle and everyone died. gnze796 said: This arc was trash, they wasted so many useless episodes on that. Well you hadn't watch the original so fuck your opinion. |
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TBH the best answer to that would just be to say "play umineko" which is why I'm skeptical about all of these theories. It wouldn't be Higurashi anymore if they actually bring in those sorts of characters/elements. |
| This outcome was so much amazing for someone who remembers a detail from Tatarigoroshi, since it took so long for anything to happen, I didn't think there would be any Tatarigoroshi references anymore. Ooishi was sus as fuck, it was already expected that he would get the curse in the end and do a massacre. Rena seems as twisted as Keiichi, so that can't be taken as absolute truth of what happened. I didn't expect Teppei to be liberated and to bash Keiichi's head back, again, we can't assume that's exactly what happened. Still, it was extremely satisfying to see Teppei getting his miserable existence denied anytime, no matter how bad is the quality of Gou's animation. But what really excited me, I'll put in spoiler tags, since maybe someone is rewatching or reading the novel. I really wished they didn't adopt this format of revealing all the shit happening in the last episode, Tatarigoroshi's counterpart could be a lot more explored in depth. |
rafaelfserafimDec 24, 2020 5:37 PM
| Hmm the murders aren’t making much sense unless Ooishi has come down with HS which makes basically no sense. |
| Wait.. Those images in the credits...That bastard raped Satoko?! |
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kofmaster said: jTiKey said: AHAHAHA the fuck This was the most absurd ending yet. Keichi killed the uncle after being hit with a bat to the head? Was the original this bad too? Each arc just tops the previous one with the awfulness. You need to doubt about everything what happens when the red filter appears. All of this happens on the meta world and not the "real world". Wrong No Naku Koro Ni. |
| Well that was one hilarious bat bashing scene. I swear, whenever this show tries to be scary, I end up laughing instead. |
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jTiKey said: kofmaster said: You need to doubt about everything what happens when the red filter appears. All of this happens on the meta world and not the "real world". Wrong No Naku Koro Ni. Both Umineko and Higurashi uses that resource. Higurashi use the I'm at least 80% convinced that the uncle was never there. |
kofmasterDec 24, 2020 6:42 PM
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| I was expecting a bad ending somewhere because good endings are not Higurashi's thing. I think the next arc nekodamashi could be the blonde lady this time or is it too early for her? I really liked this episode. I don't know why a lot don't like it. ibraheem234 said: what the heck everyone died again... why though HAHAHAHA. Welcome to Higurashi. |
| K1 is sure the toughest guy in this series. anyways i think this whole thing was all set up by yandere satoko. |
| That bat scene looked extremely painful. Great sound and reaction from Keichi. What? Oishi just up and pulled a gun and murdered everyone? And we are not even given a single hint as to why? |
| Shoot first, think never. |
Kakeras said: Truly losing it about this one, lads. Can't disagree more with the "oh this arc was boring" lamentations though, I feel the same way about people who said that of Minagoroshi. I don't mean to sound pretentious, but I think if that's your viewpoint you don't really like what Higurashi is actually about, just the shock value of it all. Higurashi as a story has fundamentally always been about the exact types of themes Minagoroshi dwells on. If the CWS stuff comes across as boring or uneventful to you, that's your taste and that's fine, but that's Higurashi. To expect it to have less of that heart is to expect it to be a completely different story. At which point you might as well just watch something else. This isn't Minagoroshi. Minagoroshi was the 7th episode of the novel, it was the episode told from on the most interesting point of views, that revealed many things about the true nature of the story and it was the episode where all the previous episodes set-ups, plot points and characterization elements all came together. This is a pseudo sequel set-up arc where 90% of the scenes are the same and the story is Minagoroshi on speedrun but without all the interesting stuff and pay offs from all the set-ups (Why would anyone give a shit about Shion's reactions for example without Maekashi?) and Passione's weak direction and atmosphere. You can't just copy-paste Minagoroshi's script in a sequel and expect people to find it interesting. |
Jin_uzukiDec 24, 2020 8:15 PM
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| I expect that thing would come, and yes it is. But, it exceeded my expectation. Damn....that was so depressing. 5/5 episode |
| Worst of arc of the series till now. Except the gore ending expected of Higurashi everything else was trash. |
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| Not gonna lie, they definitely had us in the first part xD It was obvious that something would happen, but out of everything i would never expect Ooishi to do that, but i guess we will find out in the next episodes. After so much work from everyone, in the end, the only way to solve Satoko's problem was to beat the shit out of her uncle. But tbh i was expecting Satoko to at least go there and hug him, but damn... Since most of them are dead i wonder if we will restart in the next episode, probably not at the beginning, since we need to know what happened. |
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| From Satoko shower scene we can see that Satoko was never abused, her body was clean. the previous episodes where she barfed in school confirm that her uncle was right, Satoko was sick and she uses that opportunity to make it seem like she's abused Teppei (her uncle) is innocent. Satoko was trying to frame him the whole time. Keichi never met Teppei at the end of the episode, that was Satoko traps hitting his head and hallucinating. The part where Ooishi killed club members is probably bullshit too. Remember when Ooishi said "Maebara Keichi genuinely believes he's doing to right thing" That should be a hint. |
forexjammerDec 24, 2020 9:30 PM
| All was going too damn well past few episodes. But I knew something was gonna happen soon. The phone call from Satoko? Saved. The door bell at Satoko's house? Saved. No one going missing during the festival? Saved. Ni Nii? Saved. Enter house with no lights? SUS. Satoko leading K1 inside? SUS. Teppei outta nowhere? YABAI DESU NE~ Everybody at the festival killed by Ooishi? WHAT THE HECK????? |
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forexjammer said: From Satoko shower scene we can see that Satoko was never abused, her body was clean. the previous episodes where she barfed in school confirm that her uncle was right, Satoko was sick and she uses that opportunity to make it seem like she's abused Teppei (her uncle) is innocent. Satoko was trying to frame him the whole time. Keichi never met Teppei at the end of the episode, that was Satoko traps hitting his head and hallucinating. The part where Oishi killed club members is probably bullshit too. BUT WHY THOUGH? What really happened? |
| When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| That fight scared me, but it was a good gory scene. I knew something was going to happen, but damn. Keiichi this time not remembering anything and Rena telling the truth of why everyone is gone. Truth being Ooishi killed everyone and Rena was left to remember everything. |
SweetheadDec 24, 2020 10:45 PM
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| OMG, as soon as Satoko called Keiichi, I was on high alert, hairs on my neck sticking straight up, just shaking my head waiting for something to happen. The suspense was perfect from that point on. I did not expect it to turn out like this, though. It definitely seemed like something was up with Satoko but it was Ooishi the whole time. He's the broken rule messing everything up. Kinda sus that Teppei was there, though. He could have been let go but the way Satoko specifically said they would be holding him a long time and she's our only source of information on that point... It's possible Ooishi did take him away and then let him go. Hmmm... Whew, what a ride so far. Looking forward to the next season. @ anyone expecting a happy ending at the end of the first cour out of two: lol Minadamashi doesn't mean the audience was deceived. It means the townspeople were deceived. The shower scene with Satoko shows no signs of abuse. The whole arc was a deception that affected the entire town. Satoko was honestly surprised to see her uncle at the end, though, and she ran straight to the festival just as Ooishi started shooting the place up so I can't really say whether she's pulling the strings or just a pawn. Gar_Logan said: Watching it back you are right, it's left vague as to exactly how any specific person was killed/died. Theory from this timestamp I agree it isn't the strongest theory based on having characters scratch their throats and go crazy so far, but it's still interesting I think! Rena didn't kill K1 in Onidamashi, he lived. He was also stabbed with the same knife that stabbed Rika and Satoko to death so it might not have even been Rena that stabbed him. Rika gave Rena the "all clear" when she told K1 to trust Rena and not himself so she most likely wasn't infected. She didn't have any scratch marks at the end of the episode, either. I dunno. HS does seem to be kicking around but people seem to die before it goes full L5. That does make sense if someone is messing around with the rules behind the scenes. |
SilentCaayDec 24, 2020 11:47 PM
| Satoko is definitely sus but Ooishi is, too. There's no reason to doubt Rena's testimony at the end. Also, while I do think it's very possible that what we saw in Satoko's house at the end didn't really happen that way, I don't think it was a Satoko trap. Delusions in Higurashi are usually like see a thing slightly differently or hear a person incorrectly. It's not usually see an entire person that isn't there. (There's an exception where HS sufferers will hear someone/Oyashiro-sama following them but this was completely different.) If K1 saw a person, it was most likely a person. At first I was thinking Ooishi but he couldn't have ended up dead on the floor of Satoko's house if he later shot up the festival. Alternatively, he wasn't dead and he followed Satoko to the festival which is where he ended up killing everyone. It's also possible that it wasn't a delusion and Ooishi simply let Teppei loose shortly after arresting him. |
| Wtf just happened here... I WANT ANSWERS |
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We got 2 pictures from Nekodamashi today, from a Higu livestream   Seems like it'll probably focus on Rika (or maybe it's just a small scene like episode 2) |
Tsukumo_YuumaDec 25, 2020 6:10 AM
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kofmaster said: Both Umineko and Higurashi uses that resource. Higurashi use the I'm at least 80% convinced that the uncle was never there. You can say that about the first arc where Keiichi is unreliable but not for the other arcs. It's very lazy writing to justify every plot hole with "You cannot trust what you see" |
jTiKey said: You can say that about the first arc where Keiichi is unreliable but not for the other arcs. It's very lazy writing to justify every plot hole with "You cannot trust what you see" "plot hole" what? if you'll consider everything you can't solve/explain a plot hole then the OG question arcs are full of them lmao |
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