| I have my limits in regards to what I personally watch, but i don't think there's any anime whose sexual ideas should be banned or stopped. there's just some fetishes out there that aren't for me. |
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| I don't really believe in that term. Try using 'tasteless' instead? I don't like hentai and I don't like extremely ecchi stuff. I don't like incest either; if they are not related by blood, it's fine and cousins are also fine. Nick-Knight said: Romanticized rape is where I draw the line. Basically me. I f*cking hate this. I will get mad and start throwing things. xD |
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| Basically anything that doesn't get 95% into cute-girls-doing-cute-things and harems. |
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Anything that doesn't cover up at least 5 pages of Rule 34. |
 サディスティックな考え "JUST KILL ME." サディスティックマインド |
| Glorified rape and/or pedophilia. Yes, even including the "bUt ShE's AcTuAlLy FiVe MiLlIoN yEaRs OlD" variety. |
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| With Violence I draw the line at graphic torture or hurting children. With porn and sexual content I don't like loli/shouta content, scat, tentacles, futanari, S&M,and any form of non-consensual sex like rape or blackmail, NTR, etc. |
KruszerJan 3, 2020 12:54 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| I like my degenerate, trash series. I would refer to them as guilty pleasure anime. But I don't feel guilty about liking them at all. Anime with excessive fanservice, comedy and harem tropes are the ingredients. A line huh, can't really say anything bad, exept that repetition is a problem at times. So worst thing possible is them becoming boring. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: shirakawa_megumi said: Shota is male equivalent to loli. However for some reason some extremist would call any girl below 18 "loli", but they won't do the same for shota, so it's like boy from primary/elementary school?  I don't watch shota really because not my thing, but for example something like him, from Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon https://myanimelist.net/character/136735/Shouta_Magatsuchi It's type of person which priests like the most, small altar boys. Or this whole anime https://myanimelist.net/anime/36817/Sunohara-sou_no_Kanrinin-san You know, big tittied oneesans grope all over prepubescent boys. Which is not good, because he is not capable of impregnating them, so biology says big no-no to it. I see. Well here is my take - a lot of anime characters appear older than they are (no surprise). So if the loli or shota looks old enough (including face) then I am fine with it (going by the U.K. legal age of consent which is 16). For example - my new Waifu, Nanael looks about 17 to me but I didn’t actually see her age on any wiki I looked at or even on my Waifu list website. I have seen hentai of prepubescent boys with grown women and to me it is crossing the line. That said, I speak for myself. If anything that I feel crosses the line doesn’t for others then have at it. And if it helps people who may actually become pedophiles in real life get their victimless fix then all the better. Not saying that everyone who likes loli / shota is a potential pedophile but you guys can’t really get mad when people who don’t understand your interest in this sort of thing make that comparison. What makes her 17 in your eyes? What are the characteristics, that say about her that she is 17 and not 15 or 23? |
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| Incest and absolutely senseless rape is when I start drawing my line |
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| Eroguro Also with monsters, there is a line that when crossed, I just start wondering what drugs the creators were on, for example I saw a cover with a monster that was nothing more than a walking dick and vagina. There's eldritch and then there's "this is a depiction of something I saw when on (insert drugs here)". |
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Maneki-Mew said: shirakawa_megumi said: Please explain to me, how in the world you can differentiate between anime faced, when they all flat, lack features and are very unrealistically drawn? I mean I can understand your thinking about their behavior and character, but please, anime isn't drawn that detailed you can tell age by faces. If you really, really can find these characteristics of 20 year old, but not 15 year old in her face, then I'm gonna congratulate you, because it's something to be proud of, that you can tell that from drawing like that.  Sure she looks like she's already legally allowed to drink and smoke in Japan! 155 cm do you Mean Holo or Megumin? Because Megumin is also around that height. And I know that's normal height. I had classmate in highschool which was sized exactly like that and was also flat like them. Nothing changed even after graduation, still short, still flat, still very Megumin sized. However Holo is wolf from Europe and Megumin is wizard from fantasy world, Japanese height standards don't apply. I meant myself? I stated it clearly. I'm also 1.55 tall Because kids faces are drawn rounder etc., there is no way you couldn't see that. Bullshit. Not in example I showed. Both of them have almost identical, semi-sharp drawn face. You just projecting your prejudge on drawing which lack features to make that distinction. Unless it's get's really visible character's faces look all almost the same. Another example, if you gonna tell me, that you can tell ages of these characters from their faces (and not their clothes), which are all the same and lack any features besides eyes, then you are delusional.  |
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| I guess I can handle everything, but once it crosses the degeneracy line it just wouldn't interest me anymore Common degenerate things like incest, sexualized lolis, hardcore hentai (I never watched a hentai though), glorified/poorly handled rape (if it's well written and adds something to the story like in Perfect Blue, it's ok) or over the top ecchi These tropes usually come from bad anime, so there are really high chances I'll never encounter them. Same goes for any sexual content. Doesn't shock me but it absolutely doesn't interest me either I've already tried to watch/read some yaoi too but the scenario and the characters were just way too ridiculous I couldn't take them seriously I don't mind controversial stuff like violence (against children or animals) however |
| Shoujo-Ai and Shounen-Ai and the related are fine, and while I dislike Harem and Ecchi series, I wouldn't normally consider that crossing the line into 'degeneracy' unless it was fairly explicit. What is definitely crossing the line for me is any Adult-Child relationship or grooming fantasies like Usagi Drop (Bunny Drop). I'm also a bit hesitant with most R+ rated series (Mild Nudity), and usually stay away from those unless it's not the focus of the show, like with Future Diary and Ghost in the Shell. I'll definitely stay away from anything Rx rated. That's pure degeneracy right there, lol. |
ISOQuorraJan 3, 2020 6:24 PM
shirakawa_megumi said: FlowersInTheRain said: I see. Well here is my take - a lot of anime characters appear older than they are (no surprise). So if the loli or shota looks old enough (including face) then I am fine with it (going by the U.K. legal age of consent which is 16). For example - my new Waifu, Nanael looks about 17 to me but I didn’t actually see her age on any wiki I looked at or even on my Waifu list website. I have seen hentai of prepubescent boys with grown women and to me it is crossing the line. That said, I speak for myself. If anything that I feel crosses the line doesn’t for others then have at it. And if it helps people who may actually become pedophiles in real life get their victimless fix then all the better. Not saying that everyone who likes loli / shota is a potential pedophile but you guys can’t really get mad when people who don’t understand your interest in this sort of thing make that comparison. What makes her 17 in your eyes? What are the characteristics, that say about her that she is 17 and not 15 or 23? Honestly, it’s just a guess. I am a guy who has approached several girls in public to ask them for their number since I was about 14. And I can’t tell you how many times I’ve guessed their age wrong. We all come in different shapes and sizes and females in other countries like Jamaica and America look so much older then they are to me. And the Japanese woman I dated when I was 22 looked around my age but she was actually pushing 30. Example right here: We’re both 18 in this video recorded back in 2006 in Jamaica. I spent four days there and met three girls. This is the one that I slept with. |
FlowersInTheRain said: shirakawa_megumi said: What makes her 17 in your eyes? What are the characteristics, that say about her that she is 17 and not 15 or 23? Honestly, it’s just a guess. I am a guy who has approached several girls in public to ask them for their number since I was about 14. And I can’t tell you how many times I’ve guessed their age wrong. We all come in different shapes and sizes and females in other countries like Jamaica and America look so much older then they are to me. And the Japanese woman I dated when I was 22 looked around my age but she was actually pushing 30. Example right here: We’re both 18 in this video recorded back in 2006 in Jamaica. I spent four days there and met three girls. This is the one that I slept with. Sure I believe you have good guess rate when it come to real people which have real face with real features but just as you said, "It's just a guess" when it come to flat anime faces. For me she don't look 17, for me she looks between 14 and 25 because anime logic. Sure she isn't toddler or prepubescent, because that's obvious from her height and proportions head-body, but to say her specific age (by that I mean, how old her body would be if she was representation of real human) it's not possible. I guess making her flat would make you say, she looks 13 for example, because obviously there is no real 17 year old, who don't have genes for boobs. About video, you look like nice people there, however dear kamisama, that video quality... |
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| If you're deep enough to be on MAL, then you're already past the point of no return concerning degeneracy. |
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| Well, I do find the word degenerate really funny lol. I'm actually very vanilla though, something that seems to surprise a lot of people for some reason. I don't have any fetishes really. As far as where I draw the line, I won't watch S&M scenes and I won't watch anything relating to scat or vomit (never seen it in anime or hentai anyway). I don't have much experience with the really weird types of hentais though so I don't even know what some of these terms mean. |
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shirakawa_megumi said: FlowersInTheRain said: Honestly, it’s just a guess. I am a guy who has approached several girls in public to ask them for their number since I was about 14. And I can’t tell you how many times I’ve guessed their age wrong. We all come in different shapes and sizes and females in other countries like Jamaica and America look so much older then they are to me. And the Japanese woman I dated when I was 22 looked around my age but she was actually pushing 30. Example right here: We’re both 18 in this video recorded back in 2006 in Jamaica. I spent four days there and met three girls. This is the one that I slept with. Sure I believe you have good guess rate when it come to real people which have real face with real features but just as you said, "It's just a guess" when it come to flat anime faces. For me she don't look 17, for me she looks between 14 and 25 because anime logic. Sure she isn't toddler or prepubescent, because that's obvious from her height and proportions head-body, but to say her specific age (by that I mean, how old her body would be if she was representation of real human) it's not possible. I guess making her flat would make you say, she looks 13 for example, because obviously there is no real 17 year old, who don't have genes for boobs. About video, you look like nice people there, however dear kamisama, that video quality... Camera phones were shitty back then. I have a really bad guess rate irl actually. Sometimes the girl was actually way too young but just developed early. And there totally are women who never grew breasts. Totally flat for life. They wear T-shirts instead of bras the poor things. Can still be hot though because one body part isn’t everything. |
| I think things like incest or animal/fury stuff... But when i read this thread i remembered one certaind scene from Gosick when Victorique's father kidnapped her mother and her being pregnant chained to the table and poured glass of wine on her belly when she was giving birth... Stuff like that for me is a perfect example what degenerate is |
| I never really draw the line, i mean its fiction. What might be a little questionable is romanticising mental illness,for me its good to laugh at. Some might take the portrayal of said mental illness serious and think its reality, maybe cause some popular people advertise it. Biggest example would be 13 reasons why, bro thats a edgy series. |
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| There is no line for me. The weirder the better. |
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| Scat- butt seeing as that's not happening with anime... Nothing really. Though that doesn't mean I'll watch literally anything. Depends on the execution. |
| there is no line, degeneracy has become one with me, |
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shirakawa_megumi said: Bourmegar said: Usually they also hate sexualized Shotas when they say that they hate sexualized Lolis. And I don't like it either as well and is the only Line I am willing to draw the line. Other things I am not a fan of are glorified Sexual assault, netorare and incest. However, such things can still have a reason to be there in a story. What if it is about a victim of a pedofile for example. But then the question becomes, how can you depict them without glorifying them? Ofcourse there is also comedy where the perv gets smacked on the face as well, but some ppl don't get the joke and think that the pervy act is the joke instead of him getting his cumupins. It all depends on framing in the end. But for the rest, I say GO ALL OUT! Am I the only one who brought up Netorare here? Okay, sure. You say "victim of a pedophile", so you consider "loli" to be someone under 12? Maneki-Mew said: Of course I don't like Shouta. Did you really expect that now? The term is just not used that often. I mean characters that are actual kids and some under 16 with a partner much older than them, characters that look like they are 10 and their age is an excuse (there was a terrible Boys Love anime, where the 16yo boy looked and acted like he's 12) and characters that act way younger than their actual age. ??? I googled that term. Guess I don't need to cook for lunch now haha I didn't expect that, just was wondering. About your definition... Well I can't call it definition. Would it mean that 15 yo in story where she is in love with her teacher would classify as loli, but if she was having sex with her classmate, then not loli...? You can say you don't like age gap, sure, but determining which character is loli/shota based on her/his relationships is stupid. By your definition Holo would be loli as she is looking 14-16-ish and story involves 20 year old male, that's correct? Well age makes the thing more complicated. A Loli to me is a girl who looks like a 12 year old or younger and is in someway sexualized. Holo on the other hand looks more like a teenager because she has some curves and has a slender figure. Age gap doesn't really matter to me though when it comes to classifying wether one is a loli or not. Kana from dragonmaid is somehow considered as a loli by others while the one who seems to be crushing on her is a classmate of hers. |
| Given that HenSemi is between my favorite and rated 10 in my list, I don't really have problem with degenerate stuff. What actually matters it's the execution, if it's well done anything goes. For hentais it's different, I want my hentai to be as much degenerate as possible, also lolis make any other tag better. Even vanilla becomes bearable with lolis in it. |
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Bourmegar said: shirakawa_megumi said: Okay, sure. You say "victim of a pedophile", so you consider "loli" to be someone under 12? I didn't expect that, just was wondering. About your definition... Well I can't call it definition. Would it mean that 15 yo in story where she is in love with her teacher would classify as loli, but if she was having sex with her classmate, then not loli...? You can say you don't like age gap, sure, but determining which character is loli/shota based on her/his relationships is stupid. By your definition Holo would be loli as she is looking 14-16-ish and story involves 20 year old male, that's correct? Well age makes the thing more complicated. A Loli to me is a girl who looks like a 12 year old or younger and is in someway sexualized. Holo on the other hand looks more like a teenager because she has some curves and has a slender figure. Age gap doesn't really matter to me though when it comes to classifying wether one is a loli or not. Kana from dragonmaid is somehow considered as a loli by others while the one who seems to be crushing on her is a classmate of hers. And I would agree with you, the same as definition from Danbooru "This tag is for sexually explicit or sexually suggestive art work of girls who appear to be young or preadolescent (roughly between age 7 and 12). Please note the character's canonical age doesn't matter." I would also call this characters without any sexual undertones if talking about anime, not fanart explicit fanart. For example, I would say, that girl from this anime is loli, but nowhere in anime she is showed in any sexual situations. But she is obviously prepubescent and very short, not petite sized girl, which in anime can be slapped with any age, because you can't tell because there is not distinct features on face. If you look at real people they face ages. I anime not really, unless you have someone who is 40 or 60, then it's visible, because then they give them older face. Younger males often get beard to show that they aren't teenarges. (Does nobody in Japan have facial hair until 30? I sure did in high school) I mean if anyone who don't know their ages, is able to tell how old these characters are from picture like this, then I have nothing but admiration of their superhuman abilities. I would guess, that most people would say, that Yunyun is older, because she has big knockers. And no, Megumin don't look prepubescent, she is flat like board of course (<3) but rest of body isn't not developed.  And of course what's happens to character don't make any difference. If 10 year old is going to school, like normal 10 year old, then you call it wholesome loli. If 10 year old is making out with other 10 year old, then you call it Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya |
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| The very idea of degeneracy is a carry-over from old religious beliefs invented to shame and control people. Though religion just did it first. All forms of extremism look to control people through shame, but sex always gets targetted. Doesn't matter if it's the left or the right, facism or communism, religion or secular spirituality. There's always that little judgmental bit about x, y, or z sexual thing . Of course definitions vary, but the notion of "degeneracy" as some sort of immoral or somehow "wrong" preference in art is ignorant, judgmental and indicative of a lack of open-mindedness and imagination. Of course, people using it as merely a descriptor for extreme / tabboo art, without the personal moral judgment... that's whatever. Though I think it's unhelpful because it muddies the issue. But don't take any of this personally if you use the word. I'm merely criticizing what I perceive to be the attitude behind the word on a general social scale. I hope sometime in the future society will evolve past all its sexual hang-ups and erotic content will be viewed the same as scary content, sad content, inspiring content etc. And the art of storytelling will be enriched by being able to include one of the most intimate acts two humans can engage in as just another flavor to the story. EDIT: I guess I'll answer the OP's question lol. I have no boundaries. One of my favourite hentai artists is as109 (go to duckduckgo, search the name with safesearch off, but don't say I didn't warn you lol). But I like loving vanilla stuff too. My favourite animated hentai is a the yuri short "Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo: Anata to Koibito Tsunagi" which is about as loving and tender as you can get. My point being that, while I have no boundaries for extreme content, I don't limit myself to that stuff. |
YossaRedMageJan 4, 2020 7:38 AM
| “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
| No yaoi. Sickening... Yuri is hot as fuck though. |
| No yaoi. Sickening... Yuri is hot as fuck though. |
Do you mean something like that...?  |
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| im fine with almost everything, except for anything glorifying/ condoning any sexual harassment or rape. and animal cruelty. will happily watch someone get chopped to bits, but you better lay off that doggy |
| Eroguro, scat (tho I don't mind watersport), yaoi, blood relative incest, monster/ogre (I don't know how some people can complain about UBs but still fap to this). |
JoyBoy_316Jan 4, 2020 10:21 AM
| Rape fetishism, loli/shota or pedophilia, abusive relationships. |
| I can deal with just about anything so long as it isn't being romanticized or made to seem appealing to the viewer. Once we start doing that there are plenty of anime that make me very very uncomfortable. |
| as soon as it becomes illegal that is when it is too far for me, but im pretty much resistant to anything at this point... |
I don't even like yaoi but the hypocrisy in this post is strong. Either both are okay or both are disgusting, don't pick and choose. |
LeonhartAugustJan 4, 2020 7:31 PM
| My line is in Guro/Forced Rape/Ugly Bastard shit |
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| I draw the line when it comes to rape in a romanticized sense. And incest in anime is a big turn off for me too. Im sick of the "little sister" shit. even psuedo-incest grosses me out. My biggest one is probably when anime shows portray very young girls or 'loli' characters in a sexual or suggestive scenario and other softcore pedophilia shit. its nasty. |
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| I am fine with everything except sexualized kids and romanticized rape.I am fine with ugly bastards though. |
| I'm not an SJW, so I don't have a problem with lolis. I'd say the only things I actively avoid are scat and eroguro. |
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| Scat, vore, and those doujins with XXXXXL fat mamas |
| I have absolutely no limit. Artistic freedom al the way without any limits. mind break / loli / ub / ntr / rinkan variations. Its all good. I wish more studios would do more daring adaptations. For example a anime adaption for emergence or even 215600 would be nice. |
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