I think it's less people are defending it as much as there's nothing really to defend as there isn't anything wrong with this, nor is this a case of wife husbandry as dale isn't grooming latina. If anything i think the outrage culture has gone too far and as it's already seeped into hollywood and gaming, i'd rather not see it also seep into anime, i think most of the people you call "defenders" are just annoyed with everything having to be based on current world settings and stereotypes, not to mention that again, this is not illegal, even in western europe or the americas, and in fact STILL happens albiet not as much as in the past where a friend of the family older than another grows up around each other and it develops into a relationship. |
| From what I've been watching, Latina is a pretty developed kid for her ''age'', mentally speaking. Dale is always out doing his adventurer stuff while she lives and grows learning the ups and downs of being different and unique. I can't help but feel like the bar guy is more of a father figure to her than him. She grows watching him being manly, caring for her and ''loving" her without exactly being a father or a parent. She counts on the bar guy to help her, when Dale comes back from his adventures she greats him with dishes she made for him, acting like a ''wife'' without the intent of acting like one. She adores him and being them so far from each other while she grows and learns new things, those feelings just happen. So I don't get the comparison with Usagi Drop... He isn't 24 older than her, he doesn't actually adopt her or even ACT like a father when he is and acts like a kid for the most part. He isn't a matured adult with the mentality that HE IS a father. Also, this is a fantasy anime, not a ''real life situation''. I hope my opinion came across correctly and that's what I honestly think about this, if the story develops towards a romantic relationship in the anime in a good sense, I don't care if he supposed to be her brother, father or grampa. He is a young adult that cares for a person and she is maturing fast and adores him. Maybe they marry in the anime, maybe they not, let's just wait and see! |
NyandaAug 4, 2019 4:50 PM
| You guys really do need to read the source material before you sperg out about groomin and that it's disgusting and the like. Only Dale saw himself as her father figure. Dale and Latina are only about 10 years apart in age and literally only Dale thinks he's being a dad. The pub couple fill in the role of Latina's parental figures. The entire second quarter of the series is basically about hammering in how hard Latina is crushing on Dale and getting through Dales thick head that he's not her dad and he needs to address this one way or another. They become a couple halfway into the series when Latina comes of age (And Dale isn't even 30 by this point) and then the main plot with the demon lords and Latina's past kicks in which we certainly won't be getting to see in the anime. She never considered him a father figure and was romantically interested since day 1. Every time she welcomes Dale she sniffs his clothes to see if he was around other females. When she smells other females - she manipulates Dale into washing his clothes. It takes 2 years and tremendous psychological shock for Dale to start considering her as a lover rather than a daughter. The way it happens couldnt be further from pervy or sickening. All in all theres no grooming or any pervy shit that goes on. Read the source material. Theres a reason it's well liked and rated and fairly popular and that's because it's nothing like, for example, Usagi drop and the way it handles the relationship is well done despite what you guys think. |
DarudiusAug 8, 2019 12:05 PM
AstralBread said: Darudius said: You guys really do need to read the source material before you sperg out about groomin and that it's disgusting and the like. Only Dale saw himself as her father figure. Dale and Latina are only about 10 years apart in age and literally only Dale thinks he's being a dad. The pub couple fill in the role of Latina's parental figures. The entire second quarter of the series is basically about hammering in how hard Latina is crushing on Dale and getting through Dales thick head that he's not her dad and he needs to address this one way or another. They become a couple halfway into the series when Latina comes of age (And Dale isn't even 30 by this point) and then the main plot with the demon lords and Latina's past kicks in which we certainly won't be getting to see in the anime. She never considered him a father figure and was romantically interested since day 1. Every time she welcomes Dale she sniffs his clothes to see if he was around other females. When she smells other females - she manipulates Dale into washing his clothes. It takes 2 years and tremendous psychological shock for Dale to start considering her as a lover rather than a daughter. The way it happens couldnt be further from pervy or sickening. All in all theres no grooming or any pervy shit that goes on. Read the source material. Theres a reason it's well liked and rated and fairly popular and that's because it's nothing like, for example, Usagi drop and the way it handles the relationship is well done despite what you guys think. You realize the things you are listing are exactly what makes the story a pedophile wish fullfilment? "She's mature enough to give an informed consent," "She wanted it herself," "She's the one with agency," etc. Give all the excuses you want, the point of the story was always to have Dale fuck Latina's brain out on the same attic bed where he used to read her bedtime stories when she was eight, and all the wholesome stuff is there just to make the idea of daughter-wife grooming seem more acceptable for the general audience. Stuff like this is more pedo in nature than any Shoujo Ramune could possibly be. I don't even mind that pedophile-catering fiction exists (because availability of porn correlates with reduction in sex crime), but it's pathetic to pretend this series isn't what it is. It's like you just ignored my post so you can cry pedophile catering. Your whole point falls completely flat. This isnt some pedo wish fulfilment. Paedophiles are attracted to children. Absolutely nothing sexual happens until she is an adult and shes realised her feelings, you know like all relationships. Nothing also happens when shes a child, no grooming of the sort, hell you've been watching what happens ( I assume you watch the anime), it stays like this until Latina is of age and even then it takes Dale a fuck of a long time, 2 years, and a lot psychological thinking for him to see her as more then a daughter anymore and she addresses this and says they need to talk it through. It's not like hes raising her to fuck her,in fact Kenneth and Rita are more her parents than dale, everyone in the universe sees that as well, only Dale doesnt. You've seen him,(again I assume you've watched the anime) it takes a huge toll on him before he can see her as a woman, but hes the only one who sees himself as her father figure, no one else. And don't bring the dad shit into it because I addressed it in my first post. And again what are pedos attracted to? Now if this happened when she was a kid, fair enough but it doesnt and Latina is the one who grooms dale in a way. Dale doesnt even raise her, hes away a LOT of the time on adventures. The ones who're essentially her parents are Kenneth and Rita. Latina and everyone in that world, never saw Dale as her father figure, again, only he did. Your point is completely moot. So like I said, before you go off on one, read the source material because you obviously havent and have just come to sperg out without any knowledge of the source material and how the author, because she wrote, yes SHE, wrote this story incredibly well. The fact that it's highly rated not just in Japan but here, is testament to this. She wrote a good story and it shows. I look forward to her other works. But you probably think most of the audience is a paedophile. |
DarudiusAug 9, 2019 2:31 AM
AstralBread said: Cope harder. If the intentention of the story was to be "normal" age gap romance, ask yourself why is there a word "daughter" in the title, why Latina is introduced as an 8 y.o. and why they have an obvious (to anyone not delusional) parent-child relationship? If the idea that you are reading paedophile wish-fullfillment makes you so butthurt - just don't read it, but not acknowledging it is pathetic. > Le author is a woman meme. First of all, link to an author picture and a confirmation that they are indeed a person who wrote these books. 99,99% there isn't one, because Jap authors don't disclose their identity. And on 0,01% chance - are you implying that women can't be pedophiles? Youre not going to read my post anyway and are just going to jump back to "muh pedo wish fulfilment" but, It seems it's you who's coping. Your whole point is that its pedophile wish fulfilment but theres no one fucking kids in this, the very thing pedos want to do. Dale is only sexually attracted to grown-up adult Latina and Latina is attracted to adult grown-up Dale, shit we'd better change the definition of Pedophilia, I'll let law enforcement know, thanks. >obvious (to anyone not delusional) parent-child relationship The only one thinking that is Dale and he's deluded. Everyone around clearly sees Latina is gunning for his dick from day1. But you dont know that because you're basing your views off of nothing and havent touched the source material. The whole thing is like the anime, nice and cute, until Latina is way older, the very thing pedos dont want. And that's not even what people were uncomfortable about, it the father daughter dynamic. But again, you'll probably ignore it, She was never daughter of Dale: neither she's blood related nor did she ever consider Dale her father. It was all a huge misunderstanding on his part. Rita and Kenneth were foster parents who taught her all the vital stuff. Dale was always that handsome slightly older boy that she loved. These are literally explained in the LN but with your head canon is just pedo fulfilment. Just because you want it to be something doesnt mean it is. I'm not sure you understand your own point. Your whole point is built on nothing because you're a clueless sperg who hasn't bothered to pick up the source material and has instead just looked on this discussion and have gone "oh they get married when shes older, must be pedo bait" without reading and understanding the characters feelings, but I understand it might be too complicated for you and you resort to the "muh pedo bait". How many times before it gets into your deluded brain: there's none in the show or novels. They fuck when they're both consenting adults. Is that the new pedophilia now? I'm not going to bother arguing with you because it's clearly pointless and you're just looking to argue for the sake of it and you're not going to read my post anyway because its clearly to complicated for you. That was obvious when you didn't refute any of my points and just went back to "muh pedo wish fulfilment". You wont refute any of my points and your next comment is probably going to go back you spewing about how its pedo wish fulfilment. And just to top it off the correct translation for the LN and subsequently the anime, said by the author herself said it was read "ko" You can also watch the anime. Every time Dale says "Uchi no Ko", the translation says "my girl", which is the correct translation in context. So the daughter dad argument runs dry and that's what people have a problem with not the headcanon pedo wishfulfilment. Cope harder. I know it must be hard that this is well liked (sorry the majority audience is paedophiles am I right?) but I accept your concession. |
DarudiusAug 9, 2019 5:37 AM
DjangoUnchained2 said: Darudius said: Youre not going to read my post anyway and are just going to jump back to "muh pedo wish fulfilment" but, It seems it's you who's coping. Your whole point is that its pedohpile wish fulfilment but theres no one fucking kids in this, the very thing pedos want to do. Dale is only sexually attracted to grown-up adult Latina and Latina is attracted to adult grown-up Dale, shit we'd better change the definition of Pedophilia, I'll let law enforcement know, thanks. >obvious (to anyone not delusional) parent-child relationship The only one thinking that is Dale and he's deluded. Everyone around clearly sees Latina is gunning for his dick from day1. But you dont know that because you're basing your views off of nothing and havent touched the source material. The whole thing is like the anime, nice and cute, until Latina is way older, the very thing pedos dont want. And that's not even what people were uncomfortable about, it the father daughter dynamic. But again, you'll probably ignore it, She was never daughter of Dale: neither she's blood related nor did she ever consider Dale her father. It was all a huge misunderstanding on his part. Rita and Kenneth were foster parents who taught her all the vital stuff. Dale was always that handsome slightly older boy that she loved. These are literally explained in the LN but with your head canon is just pedo fulfilment. Just because you want it to be something doesnt mean it is. I'm not sure you understand your own point. Your whole point is built on nothing because you're a clueless sperg who hasn't bothered to pick up the source material and has instead just looked on this discussion and have gone "oh they get married when shes older, must be pedo bait" without reading and understanding the characters feelings, but I understand it might be too complicated for you and you resort to the "muh pedo bait". How many times before it gets into your deluded brain: there's none in the show or novels. They fuck when they're both consenting adults. Is that the new pedophilia now? I'm not going to bother arguing with you because it's clearly pointless and you're just looking to argue for the sake of it. you're not going to read my post anyway because its clearly to complicated for you. That was obvious when you didn't refute any of my points and just went back to "muh pedo wish fulfilment". You wont refute any of my points and your next comment is probably going to go back you spewing about how its pedo wish fulfilment. Cope harder. I know it must be hard that this is well liked (sorry the majority audience is paedophiles am I right?) but I accept your concession. You definitely make good points but when has somethings popularity ever been the bar you measure somethings moral integrity? If human history has taught us anything those two things tend to not have much of a correlation. Yeah that wasnt a good point on my part. I mainly did it to reiterate that if it was pedo fulfilment, as he said, then it wouldn't be rated well in Japan and in the west. Especially in the west, but it is. |
DarudiusAug 9, 2019 6:18 AM
| I think you guys are forgetting something very crucial. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion. |
| If it triggers the snowflakes, yay for incest! :D |
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| So this is literally Usagi Drop manga all over again. I really hope this part of the story doesn’t get adapted. There’s a reason why Usagi Drop adaptation was leagues better than the source material.  |
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| Don't know how I can overlook how this: Turns into this: Treading too far into moral hazard territory after seeing this. |
Jisrat_Hasan said: Kind of an incomplete question.Hey guys is it true that this guy marries his demon girl when she becomes adult in the manga/ln? It should be added ... "And if so, will they do the Usagi Drop thing of just giving up before that happens". I'm personally holding out hope that they do. However, from the first episode I somehow got the sense that Dale was planning on screwing that kid, so I don't think I'd be too phased when it happens. Everyone needs a healthy dose of ... whatever you'd call this ... in their life. |
AnimeTiddies134 said: Goddammit Japan,not again. You already did this with usagi drop... The whole "I don't care because it is fiction" argument is bullshit. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean anything goes. If you don't care about it because it's fiction,why do you watch anime anyways? Enjoying anime requires you to get into the story and get attached to the characters,so that anything that happens in the story and to the characters matters to you.That way if something bad happens to a character,you feel sad too. If you say "it's just fiction so it doesn't matter" can't you say the same with everything else? Why feel sad when your favourite character dies in an anime? It's just fiction,after all. It's not like actually happened. Why feel happy when something good happens in an anime?Why feel bad when something bad happens? It's just fiction,it's not real.Why even watch anime? It's just fiction.It's not real. I know they are not blood related and the age gap isn't great,but that's not the problem here. The problem is they have a father-daughter relationship. Literally everyone who watches this anime does it because they want to watch an anime with a wholesome father-daughter relation. And this is because the anime itself gives that impression. It's in the name of the goddamn anime, uchimusume, musume means daughter in japanese. And the translated whole name is "If it's for my daughter I will even defeat a demon lord". Well these names are in the synonyms and not the actual name, so maybe the creators did not intend it to be called that,who knows.But it did give me the wrong impression. A youtuber with name of Teeaboo reacted to this series' first episode and called Latina "daughteroo" which is like the word "waifu" except for daughter.Even before starting the episode he said he knows it is about a father-daughter relationship.There was a post on myanimelist aswell,asking for more anime with father-daughter relationships like uchimusume. Every excepts a father-daughter relationship, and they give us that for while,and later on they just go "oh now they are gonna marry and f*ck each other for the rest of their lives." It just feels like they are betraying everyone's feelings who watch the anime.It's like saying father-daughter relationships don't matter, only those relationships matter where you can f*ck the other person, and we are going to make everything about it.Only a pervert and immature person thinks up a story like this.And it's happened not once,but TWICE,which shows that there is a problem with Japan. I'm really pissed at the source material and people defending this because "it's just fiction,it's not real" or "it's okay because they are not blood related and the age gape is minor" isn't helping me at all. I'll probably still watch the anime though. It's fiction yes, but the more important argument to make is that its a fantasy world with different people, a different society, and different rules. That's why it's way better than Usagi Drop. Also: If that's such a deal-breaker for you it's not a big deal. Just skip this anime (and the related LN and manga). That's totally fine. |
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Ryuseishun said: So this is literally Usagi Drop manga all over again. I really hope this part of the story doesn’t get adapted. There’s a reason why Usagi Drop adaptation was leagues better than the source material. At least it's only ~10 years age difference not ~25 like Daikichi and Rin. |
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bastek66 said: Ryuseishun said: So this is literally Usagi Drop manga all over again. I really hope this part of the story doesn’t get adapted. There’s a reason why Usagi Drop adaptation was leagues better than the source material. At least it's only ~10 years age difference not ~25 like Daikichi and Rin. Didn't even realize it was that big of an age gap between Daikichi and Rin. Jesus... |
| So, an adult woman wants to marry her childhood friend (who happens to be a bit older and used to take care of her)?! What's the big deal? It's not like they marry when she's still a kid, right? |
Kihira07 said: Yeah, just look at the title, a father marries his adopt daughter, clearly there's nothing wrong with it OK, could you remind me, please, how is she his adopted daughter? Maybe i missed it in the first episodes :P While we're at it, try also to look at her point of view. |
DjangoUnchained2 said: RainyShadow said: OK, could you remind me, please, how is she his adopted daughter? Maybe i missed it in the first episodes :P While we're at it, try also to look at her point of view. I’ll do you one better it’s in the title. The word “daughter” is smack dab right in front of you in the opening credits too in each episode. If the anime was trying to keep the idea that Dale and Latina don’t have a father/daughter relationship why have it in the title? The title could have been almost anything else that would convince people otherwise but it’s right there in the title instead.... I don't trust the title much. Someone already pointed out that we probably don't interpret it properly... The official MAL title says "Uchi no Ko..." which Google translated as "If for my House..." LOL One of the alternates is "Uchi no Musume..." which you refer to. I don't know about the kanji as i can't read it... But this is irrevelant if you consider all the click-bait titles flooding us every day. Why anime be different from all other media? So, forget the title, focus on the content and try again. Or don't. Whatever... |
RainyShadow said: DjangoUnchained2 said: I’ll do you one better it’s in the title. The word “daughter” is smack dab right in front of you in the opening credits too in each episode. If the anime was trying to keep the idea that Dale and Latina don’t have a father/daughter relationship why have it in the title? The title could have been almost anything else that would convince people otherwise but it’s right there in the title instead.... I don't trust the title much. Someone already pointed out that we probably don't interpret it properly... The official MAL title says "Uchi no Ko..." which Google translated as "If for my House..." LOL One of the alternates is "Uchi no Musume..." which you refer to. I don't know about the kanji as i can't read it... But this is irrevelant if you consider all the click-bait titles flooding us every day. Why anime be different from all other media? So, forget the title, focus on the content and try again. Or don't. Whatever... The actual translation is girl,"if it's for my girl, I'd even defeat a demon lord" rather than daughter. But both are valid if you have no context but "girl" is the correct translation instead of daughter. Its quite annoying as people misinterpret it even more because of the mistranslation. But at the end of the day if people dont like the direction it goes then they should just not read or watch it. Saying how its disgusting or the like isnt going to change anything. It's already written and released. Hell I think the authors even planning another volume with Dale and Latina after some more time after they're married. That I'm not too sure about though. But I think I saw it somewhere. |
Kihira07 said: Every site i come, the title (including my own country language) the title is about daughter and in the end of ep 1, Dale also said he will adopt Latina so... Clearly you didn't even look at the last comments before yours, so... |
Kihira07 said: Her point of view? In ep 1, mc said he will adopt her so whatever "her point of view" is, doesn't change that mc really adopted her. If you adopt a little girl now, when she grow up, you will marry her because she wants it too? I feel you're a lost cause, but... Did he fill adoption papers or something? Or, is it that once you tell a stranger "I will adopt you", they become your child and it's done? Even if they don't want it? What if you said this by accident/joke to your partner? Don't bother to answer, i don't care. |
| Kek I got spoiled about this in an anime group I joined and the number of delusional weabs I saw defending this shit was just hilarious lmfao. iTs noT iNceSt bEcaUse thEyre nOt bLood rElaTed iTs nOt grOomiNg beCausE sHe dOesnT sEe hIm as A fAther aNd tHeY onLy gOt toGetheR afTer sHe coNfesSed tHe gIrl iS leGal tHe aGe gAp isNt evEn tHat bIg sO wHaT? After I pointed out what the fuck was wrong, I got flamed by a bunch of incels lmao. What a day. Why are these authors so incompetent like do they really read what they make and say "oh this is good"? Lmao. Why get a girlfriend when you can raise her yourself. |
Dull_LullSep 3, 2019 10:24 AM
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DjangoUnchained2 said: Tohsaka_Rukia said: Why get a girlfriend when you can raise her yourself. The only downside I can see is having to explain to your kids why you are in moms baby pictures. Their kid asked Dale "Dad who is this child with you?" "That's your mom son before she became my cum bucket." |
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>what people who are outraged think the target audience of this show is and what thsi show is >what this show actually is > |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Kanji 【 娘 】 musume 1) daughter 彼女は娘の身支度を手伝った。 She aided her daughter in dressing. 2) girl (i.e. a young, unmarried woman) 私の若い娘の厚化粧は好まない。 I don't like heavy makeup on a young girl. So it can be also translated as "If It's for My Girl, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord". It is just for information, I still don't like the Usagi Drop ears protruding out of this show. |
Akagi-kunSep 10, 2019 8:13 AM
| I gotta admit tho, I was enjoying the shit out of this when I was reading its manga, it was so god damn wholesome, I got curious and got fucking spoiled back then that Dale marries Latina... shit made me cringe so damn hard. I asked people how in the fucking hell this happened etc and they said it was basically Latina having a huge crush on Dale, in their pov Dale was the only one that saw Latina like a daughter, while Latina never saw herself as Dale's daughter, its like a childhood crush on a senior kind of shiz, after hearing that I guess I kinda calmed down but still... a part of me still cringes at the idea of them getting married. I mean despite Latina's advancements and thoughts on this matter, Dale still saw himself as her adopted dad, he should never be swayed by her under any circumstances because he treats her as a daughter, but I hear Latina was hella persistent with her persuit to Dale, honestly some of them are pretty crazy that its hard to blame Dale for giving in, so while I dont agree with what happened and how I dont agree with Dale's decision, in the end it was Latina that simply never gave up. |
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| No matter what counter-arguments people defending this relationship bring, it is still utterly disgusting and understandably infuriating to see a story where a grown up man raises a 5-yo kid and ends up marrying her - leading to a sexual relationship of course. Not her daughter...not blood related, she's legal... I guess it depends on morality of a person to look at it without cringing. Some will find it perfectly normal, many others won't To me it will always feel wrong, just like pedophilia or incest, EVEN if the girl becomes of legal age when marrying him and EVEN if they're not blood-related. why? What was the point of the story you might wonder? To tell us that LOVE has no restrictions? To promote the idea that these things are Ok or should be taken lightly? (before you go rumbling about this being just a piece of fiction blabla...I'd advise you to think better about how mass-media and literature influenced and influences masses.) Now tell me: Would you find it ok to "adopt" a girl, raise her and marry her as she becomes legal???? Excuse - not blood related? she wants it? Who cares as long as it's for love? It feels wrong in reality, it feels wrong in fiction. In terms of relationship, as the story began, how many of you expected option #1 - a father-daughter relationship, rather then #2 - "A young man meets a loli who he'll marry in the future"-type of relationship. Which one of these 2 sounds NORMAL and comes on its own in your head for a reason? #1 sounds perfectly normal, even relatable and cute while #2 usually comes to mind to sick weirdos probably. My point is: Most people start watching the show expecting option #1 SINCE it's perfectly normal and acceptable, then the story progresses and we expect option #1 to remain the norm, only to end up disappointed with the show switching to option #2 that nobody expected, nobody wanted, and a lot disliked! - why? It's not normal, it's not necessary, it feels and IS wrong! |
Sigmar-UnberogenSep 11, 2019 3:32 PM
Jaslen said: Akagi-kun said: Kanji 【 娘 】 musume 1) daughter 彼女は娘の身支度を手伝った。 She aided her daughter in dressing. 2) girl (i.e. a young, unmarried woman) 私の若い娘の厚化粧は好まない。 I don't like heavy makeup on a young girl. So it can be also translated as "If It's for My Girl, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord". It is just for information, I still don't like the Usagi Drop ears protruding out of this show. 2) Why is "私の" (My) left out of the sentence translation? It should read " ..... on my young daughter" Without "My" in the sentence, then only can "wakai musume" be "a young girl" Both "Watashi no" and "Uchi no" are possessive pronouns. "Watashi no" is "my" . Uchi no is "my/our". You're right. Then there can be no double reading. |
Jaslen said: Akagi-kun said: Kanji 【 娘 】 musume 1) daughter 彼女は娘の身支度を手伝った。 She aided her daughter in dressing. 2) girl (i.e. a young, unmarried woman) 私の若い娘の厚化粧は好まない。 I don't like heavy makeup on a young girl. So it can be also translated as "If It's for My Girl, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord". It is just for information, I still don't like the Usagi Drop ears protruding out of this show. 2) Why is "私の" (My) left out of the sentence translation? It should read " ..... on my young daughter" Without "My" in the sentence, then only can "wakai musume" be "a young girl" Both "Watashi no" and "Uchi no" are possessive pronouns. "Watashi no" is "my" . Uchi no is "my/our". That translation is off, but 娘 can definitely mean girl. 私の母は娘のころ美人だったと言われている。 My mother is said to have been beautiful when she was a girl. |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Go back to 4chan a/ with that stupid argument that makes no sense. Please this series is disgusting for trying to trick you to care about Latina like your daughter to much later give me reasons to marry her. That's so wrong in so many levels.>what people who are outraged think the target audience of this show is and what thsi show is >what this show actually is > |
| We all need to calm down its just a around 10 year gap, thats not something completely disturbing imo. |
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| This is very odd, I would not see this anime the same way anymore now |
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