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Feb 23, 2018 6:45 PM

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oh hey its already on mal i see



You know there's a lot I could say about this but this video does it for me so

i am just going to leave this here.
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Feb 25, 2018 3:56 AM

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As much as I think any new proposed gun control laws are stupid this is just as equally stupid. Because if violent video games caused mass shootings then mass shootings would be more common than armed robber, rape, regular murders or some other crime.Right now statistically mass shootings might as rank up there with winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning. Because violent video games are sold by the millions. The lets blame violent games argument is argument that has going on since the shitty video game graphics days of the Ataris and NES and Sega master system days.
Feb 25, 2018 12:15 PM

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traed said:
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The thread title and the article title are flat-out lies.
In the article, Trump doesn't say anything to suggest he wants to "ban" or "censor" anything.

"We have to do something about what they're seeing and maybe how they're seeing it"
-Trump


Unless that 'something' becomes 'let's ban violent media', I don't see this as a call for censorship.

Now, if he were to explicitly say it and actually try to get that done, then yes, that would be a very dumb move of his. Until then. these are just the words of an old man, who didn't grow up with this stuff, and this can't relate to or understand what goes on in the minds of those playing them.

PeppermintHearts said:
This seems like something conservatives like to do, even some liberals...censorship! Thus, people will have to give up some of their freedoms and liberties just to satisfy the gun lobby, so Trump would not have to be too strict with gun control.
The gun lobby is hardly a freedom loving bunch.


Given how many leftist media are calling gamers every insult in the book, and have a huge issue with violent games or games with sexual content, I'd say both sides are equally censor-happy.
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Feb 25, 2018 12:20 PM

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I mean he's right: guns don't kill people, people kill people. Perhaps we should look at what influences people to be violent? Media is totally the answer you know. I totally get the urge to grab a sword and slay some 10 ft demons after playing Dark Souls.

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Feb 25, 2018 12:38 PM

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Well, again I see Trump playing to the crowd. Violent videogames aren't going anywhere, much like guns they're totally proliferated throughout society. He's doing little more than ostracizing himself from the crowd that actually plays shootings games.

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Feb 25, 2018 12:58 PM

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I'd love nothing more than to see Trump actually attempt to ban video games.

I could expect Trump Supporters to reach critical mass on their constant defense of Trump....or maybe self-destruct like a robot because they've been presented a paradox.

Feb 27, 2018 5:23 AM

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Even more stupid is that he didn't even know we already have a rating system for movies and video games...
Feb 27, 2018 6:52 AM

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To be fair most western popular media promotes the idea that violence is a solution to problems not just video games. Most people as they mature understand this maybe more care should be taken to teach people alternatives to violence.
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Feb 27, 2018 9:10 AM
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Start with Hollywood, the #1 hypocrits on the subject.

Also censorship is a must in any society, though how much is debatable. WIthout it you get... well look around, we are going on twenty years of little to no censorship.
Feb 28, 2018 3:46 AM

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Instead of gun control he blame game instead. Why do we vote this guy again?
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Feb 28, 2018 4:59 PM

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This would have the opposite effect. I think I recall seeing a graph that showed when big selling games come out violent crime drops during that time every time.


yeah Iceland... has 1 or max 2 murders per year, we don't have censorship on violent video games or any restriction at all... but we have really good gun laws, still in 12th spot for gun ownership per capita.

and everyone has a pretty good education here also, might play part in it


Let's be real though, "per capita" is like our favorite thing, makes Iceland look so much bigger. From what I can tell the statistics are true but the numbers are fairly skewed by enthusiasts and a low population. In 25 years of living here the only guns I've ever known anyone to own on a personal level are old farmers with rifles to hunt foxes with. 12th Spot for gun ownership per capita but you don't really run into people who own guns on a regular basis here.
Feb 28, 2018 6:17 PM

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Soverign said:
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i sia the right are pro cemroship but people hate th e left


*rolls eyes* The right and left are pro banning anything they don't like.
seriously, the left was even hating on the punisher for having gun violence.... the freaking punisher
Feb 28, 2018 6:24 PM

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Ellert0 said:
hertittys said:


yeah Iceland... has 1 or max 2 murders per year, we don't have censorship on violent video games or any restriction at all... but we have really good gun laws, still in 12th spot for gun ownership per capita.

and everyone has a pretty good education here also, might play part in it


Let's be real though, "per capita" is like our favorite thing, makes Iceland look so much bigger. From what I can tell the statistics are true but the numbers are fairly skewed by enthusiasts and a low population. In 25 years of living here the only guns I've ever known anyone to own on a personal level are old farmers with rifles to hunt foxes with. 12th Spot for gun ownership per capita but you don't really run into people who own guns on a regular basis here.
It's the same here. Only a quarter of America actually owns guns. You don't encounter a gun owner so often, and when you do you'd never actually know unless they told you.
Feb 28, 2018 7:50 PM
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This quote does not appear in the article in question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMp4wDoF74E
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I agree that he didn't specifically talk about censoring or banning though. Also, he did said that about Internet's content, rather than video game, THEN chained his sentence with video games. But... The way he said that suggest control over the content, which means indeed, either censoring or banning.

Okay, first of all, if this is going to be the basis for the article's claim, they should have included it in the article. To not back up the claims they make with actual quotes is negligent at best and deceitful at worst.

Second, considering this YouTuber went out of his way to present the quote without any context, and considering that Trump never said anything about actual censorship or banning, I'm not terribly concerned. People commenting on politics are notorious for twisting the words of people they dislike to make them sound like maniacs. I'm too lazy to look up the full context at the moment, but if there's one thing I'm skeptical of Trump doing, it's doling out needless regulations and restrictions. The president has demonstrated repeatedly that he's far more interested in demolishing such things.

If he were genuinely interested in censoring/banning video games, though, I'd find it very disconcerting.

PeppermintHearts said:
This seems like something conservatives like to do, even some liberals...censorship!

Funny, the only people I ever see actually advocating restriction of freedom of speech/freedom of expression are liberals (the most common being "ban hate speech/hateful content" and other such bilge.) Yes, that does include the whole "censor/ban violence in video games" nonsense. I actually did a lengthy report on violence in video games for my engineering ethics class, and the articles I found blaming violence on video games and advocating the censorship/ban of such games were all written by writers for liberal media sites.
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Funny, the only people I ever see actually advocating restriction of freedom of speech/freedom of expression are liberals (the most common being "ban hate speech/hateful content" and other such bilge.) Yes, that does include the whole "censor/ban violence in video games" nonsense. I actually did a lengthy report on violence in video games for my engineering ethics class, and the articles I found blaming violence on video games and advocating the censorship/ban of such games were all written by writers for liberal media sites.
Self described liberals, maybe, but they're progressives. Progressives have no qualm about taking on their name or any other.
Mar 2, 2018 4:43 PM
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I look forward to watching the people who screeched about Anita Sarkeesian screeching at Trump.
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Last time I checked, shootings happen because people bring a gun into a crowd and fire it, not a videogame, which is something people generally play at home during their free time. But that might just be me.
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I look forward to watching the people who screeched about Anita Sarkeesian screeching at Trump.
They will force Trump to play "No Russian" from MW2 to prove he's not in league with Putin.
Mar 2, 2018 8:46 PM
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lol, this is gonna be great.
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Mar 3, 2018 4:19 AM

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Censoring video games violence is just a way to deflect the issue. Those people on top really are just a bunch of insecure people that can't sleep at night thinking only about themselves. Gun control law would be overlooked.
Mar 3, 2018 5:29 AM

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School shootings are a minuscule problem. The homicide rate in the US is not good, but it has fuck all to do with this issue or guns generally.
Mar 5, 2018 5:34 PM

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Neane93 said:
lol, this is gonna be great.


Horseshoe Theory is real: Sarkesians and Trumpers hate gamers. Generation Z soon wont be that right-winged as the "youtube specialists" predicted/wanted /lol

Not to mention the "just ban the guns, bro", who will make Trump lose a lot of boomer electors as well. Dude, nobody is going to vote for you in 2020, if you keep doing this...wait...

Sh*t, Trump is trying to get impeached, so he can play the wronged victim of the systemTM instead of being the incompetent ruler that he truly is, it all makes sense now! Illuminati Confirmed!1111

Can't wait for the gaming boards of the chans to go "Gamergate 2.0 Eletric Boogaloo: We got cucked by the reactionaries edition", and embrace the edgy classism/violent-leftism of /leftypol/, to replace the edgy racialism/national-conservatism of /pol/ they got years ago. What a TIME to be alive!
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Mar 5, 2018 5:48 PM

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This is so stupid that I don't even want to entertain it. But I am anyway, so I guess I'm stupid too.
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