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Aug 7, 2017 7:46 PM
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I think it just means that it doesn't appeal to you, that's all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Darek said:
light-at-dawn said:


I have to disagree with you on fate/ kaleid, granted I never finished it, heck, I didn’t finish the first episode of it, cuz, in my opinion, it was wayyyyyyy too cringey for me. However if you think fate/ kaleid is the best fate series than that is obviously your opinion and I won’t bash you on it, but it wasn’t for me personally. Now back to the main topic, like I said the main reason why I think that fate/zero is a risk taking anime is because it had no moe/ fanservice to it and remember I am only judging this on fate/zero NOT the entire fate franchise. As we all know Japan is REALLY big on moe/ fanservice anime, that how love live is super popular in japan; so with fate/zero with no moe or fan service, it is a risk, In japan that is. Yes us westerns do not think that fate/ zero is a risk b/c we not so focus on the moe/ fanservice as much as Japan does. So to sum up everything, (my opinion) fate/zero is a risk in Japan but not in the unites states b/c of the moe content.
No, Fate/Zero is not a risk in Japan, I know I am clearly talking to an expert but believe it or not, Japan is not all about moe and ecchi, and heck quite a few shows each season are neither of those and somehow they don't sell to bad... anyways, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about so I am not gonna even bother anymore.

P.s is the fate/kaleid, the manga better than the anime?
Have not read it.

I have to point out something really quick, fate/kaleid is a type of show that can actually itself pretty well, why? because it has moe, do I really need to explain? (no mocking intended)
Yes, believe it or not, if you make a claim (especially such a dumb one) you have to explain it... outrageous huh?


LOL what a pain in the ass. He did explain it, cause it had "moe"

That being said new anime isn't "bad" it's actually better than old anime. If people need to feel differently that's fine. For every old anime someone can name thats' good, I can name three contemporary ones that are better.



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Aug 7, 2017 8:06 PM
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Why would you call shows you didn't even watch "bad"?
You're basically asking why there are no anime today that catch your interest, wich probrably should be answered by yourself.
Aug 7, 2017 8:19 PM
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Fate franchise is seen just as much Otaku culture/Otaku pandering as moe 4koma or harem LN in Japan, if you don't know albeit Fate is an extremely big franchise.

You should use some anime that adapted from major manga from major magazines or normal novel if you want to use it as an example of non otaku pandaering anime.


Aug 7, 2017 8:27 PM

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That alt was sleeping for all that time and you used its first post to troll and compare anime from decades ago to anime released today...
Hunter x Hunter best anime and Killua Zoldyck best boy <3 Addicted to cute shotas and teens with special powers in fantasy manga and manhua
Aug 8, 2017 6:46 AM

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Just watch Noragami. The best anime in our generation.
Help the industry and buy Blu-rays and DVD's.
Noragami is the best anime ever.
Aug 8, 2017 6:48 AM
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They aren't bad. You are just nostalgic? ^^"
Aug 8, 2017 6:52 AM

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I actually prefer new shows to old ones, so I don't agree with your statement.
Aug 8, 2017 7:41 AM

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Because the times changed, and everything got ugly.

That being said, you have "Kumo no You ni Kaze no You ni" in your favorites, and that Anime was pretty bad. Well, it started out good, but towards the end, it turned into shit.

Aug 8, 2017 8:01 AM

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Anime is not bad, anime is still good.
Aug 10, 2017 3:07 PM
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Thanks for some of the recommendations...some I've seen.

For those of you who think it was click bait, it isn't. This is my first post after having an account for quite a few years now. Also, for those that pointed out it's not my taste, that's pretty obvious.

I'm an older female who started watching anime when I was 20 and it's been a decade since. So perhaps my taste don't line up with the new generation. I didn't mean to offend anyone but I find the plot of new anime highly predictable. I require shows that are more intellectually stimulating.

And perhaps the new generation fetish is with child looking heroes. I myself don't find the appeal of 8 year old looking characters taking on the world and having romantic relationships. I know the Japanese always had a fetish with really young looking boys and girls. I'll just move on from anime and watch more GOT type shows.
Aug 10, 2017 4:03 PM

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light-at-dawn said:

I have to disagree with you on fate/ kaleid, granted I never finished it, heck, I didn’t finish the first episode of it, cuz, in my opinion, it was wayyyyyyy too cringey for me. However if you think fate/ kaleid is the best fate series than that is obviously your opinion and I won’t bash you on it, but it wasn’t for me personally. Now back to the main topic, like I said the main reason why I think that fate/zero is a risk taking anime is because it had no moe/ fanservice to it and remember I am only judging this on fate/zero NOT the entire fate franchise. As we all know Japan is REALLY big on moe/ fanservice anime, that how love live is super popular in japan; so with fate/zero with no moe or fan service, it is a risk, In japan that is. Yes us westerns do not think that fate/ zero is a risk b/c we not so focus on the moe/ fanservice as much as Japan does. So to sum up everything, (my opinion) fate/zero is a risk in Japan but not in the unites states b/c of the moe content.


Fate/Zero is a prequel story to the highly popular visual novel Fate/Stay Night which also got it's own anime adaptation.

Calling Zero a risk in Japan is like saying the Star Wars prequels were a risk in America. @Darek is right.
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swethane20 said:
Thanks for some of the recommendations...some I've seen.

For those of you who think it was click bait, it isn't. This is my first post after having an account for quite a few years now. Also, for those that pointed out it's not my taste, that's pretty obvious.

I'm an older female who started watching anime when I was 20 and it's been a decade since. So perhaps my taste don't line up with the new generation. I didn't mean to offend anyone but I find the plot of new anime highly predictable. I require shows that are more intellectually stimulating.

And perhaps the new generation fetish is with child looking heroes. I myself don't find the appeal of 8 year old looking characters taking on the world and having romantic relationships. I know the Japanese always had a fetish with really young looking boys and girls. I'll just move on from anime and watch more GOT type shows.


Yeah, sure ,game of thrones contains no depravities, unlike anime...
Aug 10, 2017 4:27 PM

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Fool the Ghibli films aren't seasonal Anime. I can't get over that.
Aug 10, 2017 4:31 PM

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It seems like Made in Abyss might be your thing, but you've got a stick up your ass about young characters so...
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"Generation Butthurt: where everyone is offended by everything and if they're not they try to be....:
Aug 10, 2017 9:23 PM
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SuperRed said:
light-at-dawn said:

I have to disagree with you on fate/ kaleid, granted I never finished it, heck, I didn’t finish the first episode of it, cuz, in my opinion, it was wayyyyyyy too cringey for me. However if you think fate/ kaleid is the best fate series than that is obviously your opinion and I won’t bash you on it, but it wasn’t for me personally. Now back to the main topic, like I said the main reason why I think that fate/zero is a risk taking anime is because it had no moe/ fanservice to it and remember I am only judging this on fate/zero NOT the entire fate franchise. As we all know Japan is REALLY big on moe/ fanservice anime, that how love live is super popular in japan; so with fate/zero with no moe or fan service, it is a risk, In japan that is. Yes us westerns do not think that fate/ zero is a risk b/c we not so focus on the moe/ fanservice as much as Japan does. So to sum up everything, (my opinion) fate/zero is a risk in Japan but not in the unites states b/c of the moe content.


Fate/Zero is a prequel story to the highly popular visual novel Fate/Stay Night which also got it's own anime adaptation.

Calling Zero a risk in Japan is like saying the Star Wars prequels were a risk in America. @Darek is right.


Yes, I know that @Darek is right that is why I didn't replay back to him/her. Now allow me to explain why I thought that fate/zero was a risk taking anime so that other people don't quote me on this and I don't get notifications from my account. The reason why I thought it was b/c there aren't any other anime out there, as far as I know, that has adults that are playing in a death game to win/survive. Rarity may be a better word to describe fate/zero. However I realised my mistake and take back my word, so stop quoiting me on this and have a good life.
Aug 10, 2017 9:29 PM

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It seems that your tastes are all old school. Your best bet would be adapt to the anime coming out nowadays, or read manga. Try to be more open, I guess would be my best advice.
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Aug 11, 2017 1:45 PM

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Fate franchise is seen just as much Otaku culture/Otaku pandering as moe 4koma or harem LN in Japan, if you don't know albeit Fate is an extremely big franchise.




It is? Really? How? I didn't know that.
Aug 11, 2017 2:25 PM

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swethane20 said:
I looked at this spring and summer's new anime list and can't find a single one I want to watch. And I don't know what's up with 12 year old looking characters trying to do adult things. I miss the days of Berserk, basilisk, claymore, serei no moribito, studio ghibli films, etc where stories had good plots and action scenes and it was actually not so predictable.

If anyone has an anime recommendation that is more for mature audiences (not hentai or ecchi), I would appreciate it.


i would recommend :

Fate/apocrypha
Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e
kakegurui
Netsuzou TRap

atleast i think that these 4 shows are for a more mature audiences and no "12 year old looking characters trying to do adult things"... like u said
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Sonal1988 said:
umashikaneko said:



Fate franchise is seen just as much Otaku culture/Otaku pandering as moe 4koma or harem LN in Japan, if you don't know albeit Fate is an extremely big franchise.



It is? Really? How? I didn't know that.


Consumers and recognition mainly limited to(heavily center around) geeky teenagers and geeky young adults even today.
Type moon was doujin circle that make PC ero-game(VN) and Fate franchise is started off as PC ero-doujin game too, even though ero scene is not many.
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Thread has been moved to the recommendations board
Aug 12, 2017 6:38 PM

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swethane20 said:
For those of you who think it was click bait, it isn't. This is my first post after having an account for quite a few years now.

That's the difference posting such topic in Anime Discussion -> bitching to no end + offtopic, or in the Anime & Manga Recommendations section, where it will be more trying to go along with your taste in anime.

swethane20 said:
I looked at this spring and summer's new anime list and can't find a single one I want to watch. And I don't know what's up with 12 year old looking characters trying to do adult things. I miss the days of Berserk, basilisk, claymore, serei no moribito, studio ghibli films, etc where stories had good plots and action scenes and it was actually not so predictable.

If anyone has an anime recommendation that is more for mature audiences (not hentai or ecchi), I would appreciate it.


well, I find it a bit odd that you used Ghibli films in this context, even though I agree they're fine for mature audience.
Kiki, Chihiro, Sheeta + Pazo, Satsuki + Mei ... are 12yo, or younger, or a little older.
(And Aria's age in GoT - wasn't it 12 or 13, in the books? or was that Sanza?) :D

Anyways, there really is a LOT of anime, also recent ones, that imo. are fine for a mature audience - probably more than I can watch at my slow pace. Here is some arbitrary + wild mix:
  • Uchouten Kazoku - 2013 (2nd season 2017 - which I have yet to watch) to me is enjoyable also because it treats audience (me) as an adult. Plus it in some ways tickled my sense of wonder even more than Ghibli/Miyazaki films did. This one surprised me also in that there would be modern anime that is like this. top notch (season1, as said did not yet watch s2)
  • Vision of Escaflowne (1996) - action, drama, shoujo, fantasy, mecha (yes!)
  • Trapeze (2009) - almost exclusively male cast, something on its very own, can not compare it with anything else I know. Definitely meant for an audience of [unknown] minimum age/ understanding.
  • Flip Flappers (2016) - highschool girls, action, drama, and drama!, ... highly entertaining. A blast, lifted my hopes in modern anime.
  • Mouretsu Pirates (2012) - highschool girls + few adults, lighthearted action and slice of life, space ships, but within an overall "mature" representation of that world.


that's all for now, because late. (and had a beer or two)
Leave it to @SeijiSensei to make some more founded/ orderly suggestions. :)

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Your list with more shoujo & Chinese stuff is more interesting than the shows in OP. So according to that...
Joker Game: all adult males, episodic mystery, production IG art.
Plastic Memories: drama romance. I thought it's ok, had some issues, but some folks liked it a lot. ymmv.
Shirayuki hime: you dropped it? Has 2 seasons I think worth trying a few more episodes.
To Be Hero: Chinese wacky comedy, father daughter relationship, mostly old/adults. High ranked on one of the jp female rankings.
Fune wo Amu: dictionary, adult, light romance & friendship, workplace, subtle characterization. Rakugo was more fun but this definitely mature.
Seikaisuru Kado: adults, negotiation politics focus with scifi ideology.

Some of these are on the mal-taste hate list, but you probably won't mind.
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swethane20 said:
Thanks for some of the recommendations...some I've seen.

For those of you who think it was click bait, it isn't. This is my first post after having an account for quite a few years now. Also, for those that pointed out it's not my taste, that's pretty obvious.

I'm an older female who started watching anime when I was 20 and it's been a decade since. So perhaps my taste don't line up with the new generation. I didn't mean to offend anyone but I find the plot of new anime highly predictable. I require shows that are more intellectually stimulating.

And perhaps the new generation fetish is with child looking heroes. I myself don't find the appeal of 8 year old looking characters taking on the world and having romantic relationships. I know the Japanese always had a fetish with really young looking boys and girls. I'll just move on from anime and watch more GOT type shows.

Check these ones:
Hunter x Hunter (It has no nudity other than some very very short scenes): The young characters just act like young characters and the older characters act like older characters, it is probably one of the animes in which the character development is perfect. There is no real romance at all and the characters have a lot more reasonable goals than an 8 year old looking characters trying to take over the world.
Fate/Zero S1/2: This series has a great plot with great characters and little to no fanservice*.
Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis/Virgin Soul: Gods, Devils, Dragons, Zombies and Humans. This anime is a delightful anime with many characters and an exceptionally well-made atmosphere.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: CHECK IT BY YOURSELF. I have nothing to say about this one :D.
Parasyte -the maxim-: At first i was so doubtful about watching this one but after some episodes it turns out to be decent, there is some romance but i would just not care about it.
The Legend of the Legendary Heroes: Pretty good. The only anime that gave me same feelings as berserk.

*excluding blood, violence, torture and things like that.
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Thanks for more recommendations. I will check them out. I am looking forward to the The Ancient Magus' Bride this fall...hope it's good.

To Bannobunka: Yes the main characters in studio ghibli movies are young. However they act their age (at least to me) and does more or less things that children do, not try and have adult romances. And there are many adult characters in it as well that also act their age.

To Gophercg: I did drop shirayuki hime but since you insist, I will try watching a few more episodes.

And to all who suggests adapting my tastes, if I could I seriously would but really just can't get used to the drawings and attitudes of REALLY YOUNG characters. I don't know if you guys realized yet but some of these characters look like they're 8 years old but trying to act 18. Why not just draw more teenage style. I think you can see from my lists that I dont' mind watching teenage anime like Ao Haru Ride or Ore monogatari, just not with 8 year old looking characters.
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