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Jan 8, 2017 6:03 AM

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flannan said:
I have no idea why the hell was this thread resurrected, but here's my opinion:
PeripheralVision said:
Noucome, NGNL, Oreimo, Rail Wars, The Familiar of Zero, Henneko, Haganai, SAO, and these are just the ones I've seen.

Most of these are pretty damn good! Especially Haganai and SAO. Ignore the elitist snobs who don't like them.

haganai is atrocious
such an indulgent representation of what being an antisocial is like
even sao is way better
Jan 8, 2017 6:07 AM

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yes op it is just you it is not like there are thousands of people complaining about this kind of work and to be fair it is hard to blame with how much shit harems based on ln the industry is making
some of the ln novel adaptations still come amazing like baccano so making stataments about the ln themselves based on the adaptations is pointless though
Jan 8, 2017 6:10 AM

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light novel = pile of garbage, created by bunch of weebs who don't know how to draw and write a story
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Jan 8, 2017 6:15 AM

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On_the_Lam said:
flannan said:
I have no idea why the hell was this thread resurrected, but here's my opinion:

Most of these are pretty damn good! Especially Haganai and SAO. Ignore the elitist snobs who don't like them.

I am pretty sure that the general consensus is that SAO is overhyped garbage, and that has nothing to do with "elitist snobs". If anyone even cared about the opinions of "elitist snobs", the top 15 anime of MAL wouldn't be 80% Gintama.

I don't care about this "general consensus" of elitist snobs and their flunkies, because unlike them, I have actually watched SAO and read SAO. No matter how much people might call it "overhyped", it's still above-average in quality, and appeals to me very well.
That's probably the same lie of a "general consensus" that says that ecchi is bad.

gabrielrroiz said:
flannan said:
I have no idea why the hell was this thread resurrected, but here's my opinion:

Most of these are pretty damn good! Especially Haganai and SAO. Ignore the elitist snobs who don't like them.

haganai is atrocious
such an indulgent representation of what being an antisocial is like
even sao is way better

Haganai is an excellent comedy. So many people failing not because of random chance or external circumstances, but because of their personalities.
Haganai is also heartwarming in that they actually learn and become (slightly) better people.
Jan 8, 2017 6:18 AM

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All VN adaptations are by default terrible.
Jan 8, 2017 6:19 AM

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GangsterCat said:
light novel = pile of garbage, created by bunch of weebs who don't know how to draw and write a story

Brah...you need to watch Monogatari.



^Hitagi is one hell of a sadist....you'll like her!
Jan 8, 2017 6:31 AM

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JustALEX said:
GangsterCat said:
light novel = pile of garbage, created by bunch of weebs who don't know how to draw and write a story

Brah...you need to watch Monogatari.



^Hitagi is one hell of a sadist....you'll like her!
no, monogatari is shitty bizarre (in a bad way) series, i watched few episode in my friend's house.
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Jan 8, 2017 6:41 AM

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GangsterCat said:
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Brah...you need to watch Monogatari.



^Hitagi is one hell of a sadist....you'll like her!
no, monogatari is shitty bizarre (in a bad way) series, i watched few episode in my friend's house.


How dare you call Bakemonogatari shitty then drop it and give it a 1.
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Jan 8, 2017 6:59 AM

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How do you expect good adaptations when even the original works are utter shit? Most LN have below average quality of writing.. and even the "good" ones are terribad.

By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|
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PeripheralVision said:
Noucome, NGNL, Oreimo, Rail Wars, The Familiar of Zero, Henneko, Haganai, SAO, and these are just the ones I've seen.


And the last horse gets to the finish line...
Jan 9, 2017 2:52 AM

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Aquamirror said:
How do you expect good adaptations when even the original works are utter shit? Most LN have below average quality of writing.. and even the "good" ones are terribad.

By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|

You don't even especially read light novel to begin with.
Jan 9, 2017 3:35 AM

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Considering there are people who use their hatred of Light Novels and Light Novel adaptations to define their preferences in anime, no, I highly doubt you are the only one.
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Aquamirror said:
How do you expect good adaptations when even the original works are utter shit? Most LN have below average quality of writing.. and even the "good" ones are terribad.

By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|
not only porn it looks like disgusting and pedo porn
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Aquamirror said:
How do you expect good adaptations when even the original works are utter shit? Most LN have below average quality of writing.. and even the "good" ones are terribad.

By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|


So how many LNs have you actually read? Or is this another pathetic attempt at trying to fit in with the crowd by copypasting other people's arguments and trying to display it as your own despite having no knowledge of the matter at hand?
Jan 9, 2017 5:24 AM

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You are not alone. I am not saying all of them are bad. But, I tend to disliked them.
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GangsterCat said:
light novel = pile of garbage, created by bunch of weebs who don't know how to draw and write a story


So LN are written by Japanese who pretend to be Japanese when they aren't, even though they are?

I learned something new this day.
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JustALEX said:
GangsterCat said:
light novel = pile of garbage, created by bunch of weebs who don't know how to draw and write a story

Brah...you need to watch Monogatari.



^Hitagi is one hell of a sadist....you'll like her!

Hitagi deserves to get gangraped

HyperL said:
GangsterCat said:
no, monogatari is shitty bizarre (in a bad way) series, i watched few episode in my friend's house.


How dare you call Bakemonogatari shitty then drop it and give it a 1.

Bake is shit comparing to every other entry in the series.
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Aquamirror said:
By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|

Fine. Don't watch it then!

Here's some more BTW...







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not only porn it looks like disgusting and pedo porn

Stop talking shit fam!

Oh wait...



Still...Monogatari = GOAT
Jan 9, 2017 6:29 AM
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Of Hollywood can't make a movie as good as a book then what do you expect from low budget of Japan.
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just LNs?
why not VNs, manga or even books also?
why single out just LNs
I dont understand
Jan 9, 2017 6:56 AM
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Deknijff said:
just LNs?
why not VNs, manga or even books also?
why single out just LNs
I dont understand


I can´t speak for the creator of this thread, but I assume it´s because of the overabundance of light novel adaptations in recent years that predominantly had the purpose of being adapted into 12-24 episode Anime seasons of gorgeously drawn waifus for everyone´s taste inclduding the "animal lovers" and the "pedophiles", ingoring any semblance of a decent or sensical story for the sake of gorgeous but uncreative fightning animation to fill the time the audience´s blood was moving between their boners and their brains, since they were introduced to the Anime through their regular pornsite when they spotted their waifu.

While factual those flaws exist, those Light Novels or their Anime aren´t hurting anybody and just do their job. Appealing to their target audience of 12-18 year olds that haven´t seen those clichés repeatedly and probably see them for the first time.
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Isterio said:
Deknijff said:
just LNs?
why not VNs, manga or even books also?
why single out just LNs
I dont understand
I can´t speak for the creator of this thread, but I assume it´s because of the overabundance of light novel adaptations in recent years that predominantly had the purpose of being adapted into 12-24 episode Anime seasons of gorgeously drawn waifus for everyone´s taste including the "animal lovers" and the "pedophiles", ignoring any semblance of a decent or sensical story for the sake of gorgeous but uncreative fighting animation to fill the time the audience´s blood was moving between their boners and their brains.

While factual those flaws exist within those Light Novels
so are you saying manga and VNs don't share those problems just as much as LNs or something?
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Darek said:
JustALEX said:

Brah...you need to watch Monogatari.



^Hitagi is one hell of a sadist....you'll like her!

Hitagi deserves to get gangraped

HyperL said:


How dare you call Bakemonogatari shitty then drop it and give it a 1.

Bake is shit comparing to every other entry in the series.


Yeah, maybe is shit compared to every other entry in the series, but is not shit by itself, it's pretty watchable.
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Tenshi_Shura said:
Aquamirror said:
How do you expect good adaptations when even the original works are utter shit? Most LN have below average quality of writing.. and even the "good" ones are terribad.

By the way, all these gifs really discourage me from watching Monogatari, it looks like fucking porn. :|


So how many LNs have you actually read? Or is this another pathetic attempt at trying to fit in with the crowd by copypasting other people's arguments and trying to display it as your own despite having no knowledge of the matter at hand?

No, that's my own opinion. I don't need to read 100 light novels to know that, HakoMari is overrated as fuck btw.
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HyperL said:
Yeah, maybe is shit compared to every other entry in the series, but is not shit by itself, it's pretty watchable.

No way.

Bakemonogatari completely changed the way I watched anime.

And yeah, I know the constant "slide show" could get annoying, but it was great none-the-less.

It was my 2009 AOTY.

But I'll admit it's got nothing on later entries....especially Monogatari Second Season.

Everyone was going Ape shit for Attack on Titan in 2013....but in reality Monogatari Second Season was easily the best anime that year.

At least IMO of course.
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Aquamirror said:
Tenshi_Shura said:


So how many LNs have you actually read? Or is this another pathetic attempt at trying to fit in with the crowd by copypasting other people's arguments and trying to display it as your own despite having no knowledge of the matter at hand?

No, that's my own opinion. I don't need to read 100 light novels to know that, HakoMari is overrated as fuck btw.


Can you give a minimum of 5 LNs that you've read wholly and not just summaries from wiki pages or other users' own description of them and judge their quality of writing to prove your baseless generalizations?
Jan 9, 2017 7:32 AM

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Most of the light novels are fucking dog shit anyway
It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on.
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Deknijff said:
so are you saying manga and VNs don't share those problems just as much as LNs or something?


I wasn´t done with my section but had somethign more important to do. Read the finished quote.

Also regarding your comment. No!
What I am saying is, that predominantly Light Novels with the above explained flaws had been massively popular and adapted in resent years. Much to the distain of their haters that see a rising trend in their production.
There obviously is a shitton horrible Manga and visual novels out there with the same levels of badness their light Novel counterparts have but they just stay that, Manga and visual Novels. Shitty Manga that aren´t selling well get cancelled not adpated and shitty Visual Novels *ahem* "Hentai games" get adapted as just that Hentai, with few exceptions like the Fate series but that´s only possible through massive rewriting and adjustment.
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Tenshi_Shura said:
Aquamirror said:

No, that's my own opinion. I don't need to read 100 light novels to know that, HakoMari is overrated as fuck btw.


Can you give a minimum of 5 LNs that you've read wholly and not just summaries from wiki pages or other users' own description of them and judge their quality of writing to prove your baseless generalizations?

I don't need to read them to know that, you seem pretty triggered lol
And reading plot summaries is enough to indicate the overall quality of the plot. Even reading 1 page is enough of prove for quality writing. Most of them suck ass.
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Isterio said:
I wasn´t done with my section but had something more important to do. Read the finished quote.
Isterio said:
Deknijff said:
just LNs?
why not VNs, manga or even books also?
why single out just LNs
I don't understand
I can´t speak for the creator of this thread, but I assume it´s because of the overabundance of light novel adaptations in recent years that predominantly had the purpose of being adapted into 12-24 episode Anime seasons of gorgeously drawn waifus for everyone´s taste including the "animal lovers" and the "pedophiles", ignoring any semblance of a decent or sensical story for the sake of gorgeous but uncreative fighting animation to fill the time the audience´s blood was moving between their boners and their brains, since they were introduced to the Anime through their regular porn site when they spotted their waifu.
While factual those flaws exist, those Light Novels or their Anime aren´t hurting anybody and just do their job. Appealing to their target audience of 12-18 year olds that haven´t seen those clichés repeatedly and probably see them for the first time.
I don't understand why you would need to bring up porn sites
but Im not going to deny Ive seen Highschool DXD on Pornhub and Yosuga no Sora on Youporn
but granted I saw that after I had already seen the series before hand
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Deknijff said:
so are you saying manga and VNs don't share those problems just as much as LNs or something?
regarding your comment. No!
What I am saying is, that predominantly Light Novels with the above explained flaws had been massively popular and adapted in resent years. Much to the distain of their haters that see a rising trend in their production.
There obviously is a shitton horrible Manga and visual novels out there with the same levels of badness their light Novel counterparts have but they just stay that, Manga and visual Novels. Shitty Manga that aren´t selling well get cancelled not adapted and shitty Visual Novels *ahem* "Hentai games" get adapted as just that Hentai, with few exceptions like the Fate series but that´s only possible through massive rewriting and adjustment.
Well I don't play VNs so Im not going to say a bunch of bullshit such as how much they adjust the script since I don't know anything about that
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Aquamirror said:
Tenshi_Shura said:


Can you give a minimum of 5 LNs that you've read wholly and not just summaries from wiki pages or other users' own description of them and judge their quality of writing to prove your baseless generalizations?

I don't need to read them to know that, you seem pretty triggered lol
And reading plot summaries is enough to indicate the overall quality of the plot. Even reading 1 page is enough of prove for quality writing. Most of them suck ass.


"I have not the slightest experience with Light Novels but I'm going to shit on the entire medium anyway because who needs to read one when you can easily copy and paste other people's arguments and look cool for doing so."

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Tenshi_Shura said:
Aquamirror said:

I don't need to read them to know that, you seem pretty triggered lol
And reading plot summaries is enough to indicate the overall quality of the plot. Even reading 1 page is enough of prove for quality writing. Most of them suck ass.


"I have not the slightest experience with Light Novels but I'm going to shit on the entire medium anyway because who needs to read one when you can easily copy and paste other people's arguments and look cool for doing so."

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

Lol, go read a real book bro.. and get something for mental stimulation, you look retarded.
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Aquamirror said:
Tenshi_Shura said:
"I have not the slightest experience with Light Novels but I'm going to shit on the entire medium anyway because who needs to read one when you can easily copy and paste other people's arguments and look cool for doing so."
XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
Lol, go read a real book bro.. and get something for mental stimulation, you look retarded.
hmmm @Tenshi_Shura is actually giving strong arguments while you have nothing good to say
how is he looking retarded here?
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Deknijff said:
Aquamirror said:
Lol, go read a real book bro.. and get something for mental stimulation, you look retarded.
hmmm @Tenshi_Shura is actually giving strong arguments while you have nothing good to say
how is he looking retarded here?

I said enough. I don't care if he keeps deluding himself, you can't argue with triggered fangays.
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Aquamirror said:
Tenshi_Shura said:


"I have not the slightest experience with Light Novels but I'm going to shit on the entire medium anyway because who needs to read one when you can easily copy and paste other people's arguments and look cool for doing so."

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

Lol, go read a real book bro.. and get something for mental stimulation, you look retarded.


Not as retarded as someone generalizing an entire medium despite having no knowledge of it. Where did you pick your arguments from? If those were indeed a product of your thoughts then I'm done with you. You can't even provide a better retort to save your pathetic drowning arguments so you resort to outlandish behaviors by advising me to read a real book slandering yet again LNs by implying they aren't real literature. Just keep up your facade though. In the end, all you ever amount to is a pseudo-intellectual.
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Aquamirror said:
Deknijff said:
hmmm @Tenshi_Shura is actually giving strong arguments while you have nothing good to say
how is he looking retarded here?
I said enough. I don't care if he keeps deluding himself, you can't argue with triggered fangays.
can't argue with blind haters either it seems who don't even bring in facts or real experience on the subject
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If The Asterisk War and The Irregular at Magic High School are any indication, some of them are worse than just mediocre.
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Its not only LN adaptations, just saying...
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Deknijff said:
I don't understand why you would need to bring up porn sites but Im not going to deny Ive seen Highschool DXD on Pornhub and Yosuga no Sora on Youporn but granted I saw that after I had already seen the series before hand

Where do you think a non Anime fan millenial would first be confronted witb those series?Not necessarily Sao because there will be some guy named Kirito in Overwatch, Lol or whatever the kid plays alongside the hundreds of Narutos and Sasukes or Ryus. You were an Anime fan "before" that´s why " you" already had seen it. Never underestimate the power of rule 34!

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Well I don't play VNs so Im not going to say a bunch of bullshit such as how much they adjust the script since I don't know anything about that


Than you shouldn´t say bullshit like the sentence you just wrote. They did adjust the script for the Fate series that´s undenieable. There isn´t explizit sexual content in any of it´s Anime iterations while the games sole purpose and half of it´s selling point is it´s sexual content and the resulting waifu merchandise.

I haven´t played any visual Novels myself but I have seen a let´s play of the first Fate VN through and it´s a better version of this:http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/594476

Which is something I played as a young teenager during a time when the internet was still an infant, VHS still existed, pornography was scarse to come by and girls were nasty.

To end my argument Murakami Teruaki and the Company Bishop are proud distributors of Visual Novel adaptations. Which are works I wouldn´t recomment anyone to search for if they have fragile souls. Boku No Pico pales in comparision to the smut those guys create.
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Isterio said:
Deknijff said:
I don't understand why you would need to bring up porn sites but Im not going to deny Ive seen Highschool DXD on Pornhub and Yosuga no Sora on Youporn but granted I saw that after I had already seen the series before hand
Where do you think a non Anime fan millenial would first be confronted witb those series?Not necessarily Sao because there will be some guy named Kirito in Overwatch, Lol or whatever the kid plays alongside the hundreds of Narutos and Sasukes or Ryus. You were an Anime fan "before" that´s why " you" already had seen it. Never underestimate the power of rule 34!
most people I talk to find anime through youtube now a days...
but hey I do love rule 34 so whatever I'll just roll with it
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Deknijff said:
Well I don't play VNs so Im not going to say a bunch of bullshit such as how much they adjust the script since I don't know anything about that
Than you shouldn´t say bullshit like the sentence you just wrote. They did adjust the script for the Fate series that´s undenieable. There isn´t explizit sexual content in any of it´s Anime iterations while the games sole purpose and half of it´s selling point is it´s sexual content and the resulting waifu merchandise.
I haven´t played any visual Novels myself but I have seen a let´s play of the first Fate VN through and it´s a better version of this:http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/594476
Which is something I played as a young teenager during a time when the internet was still an infant, VHS existed and pornography was scarse to come by and girls were nasty.
To end my argument Murakami Teruaki and the Company Bishop are proud distributors of Visual Novel adaptations. Which are works I wouldn´t recomment anyone to search for if they have fragile souls. Boku No Pico pales in comparision to the smut those guys create.
not really understanding why you are saying what I said is bullshit when I just said I don't have enough information on the subject and that I will just believe you to a certain degree
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Deknijff said:
most people I talk to find anime through youtube now a days...
but hey I do love rule 34 so whatever I'll just roll with it


That applies only to people who already know what Anime is and have an active interest in finding more to watch. I´d argue that nowadays the most common way for youngsters to be introduced towards Anime as a medium are games and memes and to a certain degree television. Not to the magnitude it used to be as the single most influential source alongside magazines as a way less impactful second but still around the level of the internet.

The whole porn thing was a joke, though I do believe alot of people do watch particular Ecchi series because of their advertisment on pornsites. The
primarly appeal of Ecchi series are the character designs since they don´t provide much in other areas it´s audience can immediately be hooked just by character designs.

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not really understanding why you are saying what I said is bullshit when I just said I don't have enough information on the subject and that I will just believe you to a certain degree


The way you phrased your comment it can read that you accuse me of being a guy who makes shit up he doesn´t know about putting yourself on the highground.
Whatever semantics, the misunderstanding is cleared up now.
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Shit, and I just got my popcorn too. Well I have some popcorn for anyone who wants it.
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Isterio said:
Deknijff said:
Well I don't play VNs so Im not going to say a bunch of bullshit such as how much they adjust the script since I don't know anything about that


Than you shouldn´t say bullshit like the sentence you just wrote. They did adjust the script for the Fate series that´s undenieable. There isn´t explizit sexual content in any of it´s Anime iterations while the games sole purpose and half of it´s selling point is it´s sexual content and the resulting waifu merchandise.

I haven´t played any visual Novels myself but I have seen a let´s play of the first Fate VN through and it´s a better version of this:http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/594476

Let's play of a VN? how the hell does that work? will we get a let's read of books next?
Sorry, but you cannot really understand a VN like Fate without actually reading it like a book.
By the way, Fate route has 2 H-scenes, and Unlimited Blade Works has only 1. Not so much of a selling point as it is a case of false advertisement.
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flannan said:

Let's play of a VN? how the hell does that work? will we get a let's read of books next?
Sorry, but you cannot really understand a VN like Fate without actually reading it like a book.
By the way, Fate route has 2 H-scenes, and Unlimited Blade Works has only 1. Not so much of a selling point as it is a case of false advertisement.


The guy showed the whole story in a 34 hour let´s play . While you may not get the same experience because you´re not the one making the decisions you want and it becomes more similar to reading a book it doesn´t change anything about the story being told. Visual novels are nothing more than choose your own adcenture books on the PC.

Yes it has 2h scenes but this doesn´t change the fact that the authors and company went out of their way to say in an interview that they only put the H scenes in the "game" because they were insecure about the product and assumed it wouldn´t sell otherwise. It also falls under the category of Eroge, which translates litterally into "erotic games" and also was marketed as such with the girls on the front covers "NOT IT´S STORY" . It´s 18+ for those sex scenes "that are graphic". Like it or not your "waifu" Rin´s dirty ass is on display in the game with a dick sliding into it. This qualifies as porn and there is no false advertisement

The pathing options in the game are literally dictated by which girl you will date. Saber, Sakura, or Rin, so stop being salty over your waifus being in a hentai game because without being objectified for Otaku to splooge onto their screeens they wouldn´t exist to begin with.
Jan 10, 2017 4:10 AM

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Mediocre source material leads to mediocre adaptions.
Jan 10, 2017 4:27 AM

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flannan said:

Let's play of a VN? how the hell does that work? will we get a let's read of books next?
Sorry, but you cannot really understand a VN like Fate without actually reading it like a book.
By the way, Fate route has 2 H-scenes, and Unlimited Blade Works has only 1. Not so much of a selling point as it is a case of false advertisement.


The guy showed the whole story in a 34 hour let´s play . While you may not get the same experience because you´re not the one making the decisions you want and it becomes more similar to reading a book it doesn´t change anything about the story being told. Visual novels are nothing more than choose your own adcenture books on the PC.

Yes it has 2h scenes but this doesn´t change the fact that the authors and company went out of their way to say in an interview that they only put the H scenes in the "game" because they were insecure about the product and assumed it wouldn´t sell otherwise. It also falls under the category of Eroge, which translates litterally into "erotic games" and also was marketed as such with the girls on the front covers "NOT IT´S STORY" . It´s 18+ for those sex scenes "that are graphic". Like it or not your "waifu" Rin´s dirty ass is on display in the game with a dick sliding into it. This qualifies as porn and there is no false advertisement

The pathing options in the game are literally dictated by which girl you will date. Saber, Sakura, or Rin, so stop being salty over your waifus being in a hentai game because without being objectified for Otaku to splooge onto their screeens they wouldn´t exist to begin with.

To clarify. I have actually played F/SN the game (all of its routes), and enjoyed it. I have even seen the pathing diagram, and unlike Tsukihime, there is only one way to read it (meaning, the game will not allow you to see Rin's route until you finish Saber's route, and Heaven's Feel until you finish Rin's route).
It does not bother me that the girls had sex. It bothers me when people assume that sex scenes are the reason for the work's popularity/existence. Because they are not, and Nasu is infamous for his bad writing of sex scenes. (I still fapped to them)

Anyway, 34 hours might actually be enough to show you enough of the game (maybe even more than just Saber's route), and you might have actually read it. (I still think such a letsplay is pure madness)
Jan 10, 2017 5:07 AM
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flannan said:

To clarify. I have actually played F/SN the game (all of its routes), and enjoyed it. I have even seen the pathing diagram, and unlike Tsukihime, there is only one way to read it (meaning, the game will not allow you to see Rin's route until you finish Saber's route, and Heaven's Feel until you finish Rin's route).
It does not bother me that the girls had sex. It bothers me when people assume that sex scenes are the reason for the work's popularity/existence. Because they are not, and Nasu is infamous for his bad writing of sex scenes. (I still fapped to them)

Anyway, 34 hours might actually be enough to show you enough of the game (maybe even more than just Saber's route), and you might have actually read it. (I still think such a letsplay is pure madness)


Oh no one forgetts lines like "her movements are like that of a professional courtesan" or "her anus is defenseless". But the translators may as well be at fault for that. To give an example, playing the flute in japanese explains to blowing somebody, Now imagine if the translator translated "play my flute" during a sexscene?

That aside the sex scenes and "waifuism" are the selling points of those games. You think virgin Otaku pay 60 dollar upwards in yen for a visual novel for it´s battle royal/ safe the world plotline?

Stop lying to yourself, body pillows, figurines, sexdolls all that shit sells because the girls are 2D and not scary It´d be a stretch to say that they buy it for the sex scenes alone, but this doesn´t change the fact that those are dating games.
There is no vulnerbility because even if they get rejected the just press the reset button and eventually get to their desired ending with their favorite waifu.
Eroge don´t necessarily have to involve sex. Japanese man have reached a point where the illusion of love has become a better selling point. The 2 D girls at worst are tsunderes and at best love them for no reason. This includes Fate.
They´ve become substitutes for actual relationships and though it´s consumers are looked down upon the market is booming and only growing.
Jan 10, 2017 5:35 AM

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Should be thankful that the number of battle school harem LNs is declining in recent seasons -- it's down to at most only one series per season, compared to 2013 and 2014 where it could be as many as 4 - with almost exact same premise, which is quite insane. Also, they're among the easiest to avoid since their premieres almost always give away what their entire series will be like.

Though, when those reincarnated webnovels start making wave into anime, things might get interesting again
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