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| I'm been wondering - I'm sorry if I'm repeating a question that has been answered - Rijin starting suffering the effects of the "death feedback" after incinerating the little minoshiro, because of the protection mechanism the minoshiro used. However, he got worse after killing all of those Bakenezumi. Satoru killeda bunch of Bakennezumi when running away, but he didn't suffer any after effects. Why is that? |
| "We should be more proud of NEETs! Love the country that strives to produce NEETs, for world peace, we must stand up! We must find more non NEET-in-waiting elites, learn from each other , form a new Japanese Party, and bravely challenge the evil! Grow, NEETs! Grow like blazing fire! NEETs!” |
Joseito1875 said: I'm been wondering - I'm sorry if I'm repeating a question that has been answered - Rijin starting suffering the effects of the "death feedback" after incinerating the little minoshiro, because of the protection mechanism the minoshiro used. However, he got worse after killing all of those Bakenezumi. Satoru killeda bunch of Bakennezumi when running away, but he didn't suffer any after effects. Why is that? This is one thing this episode tried to show but because of, in my opinion, incompetent directing, it failed to show why this is the case and worse caused misunderstanding. First, let me be clear: Killing Bakenezumi does not trigger "death feedback" mechanism. So what happened to Rijin after he killed the bunch of Bakenezumi? The answer lies in the smoke that looks like a woman. Perhaps because of the vision of those images by Minoshiro, Rijin was already suffering from the "death feedback" and was particularly sensitive to human-like images. Somehow the smokes seemed to take a form of a woman, which further exacerbated Rijin's suffering. However, in anime they made the smoke look too close to a woman form - thus spurred speculation from fans that 1) Bakenezumi is human after all so attacking them create such image which hurts Rijin or 2) Bakenezumi had some secret weapon to deter human like Rijin. But in fact that scene proved none of the above. It is just unfortunate that in anime it was not made clear but instead caused confusion and misunderstanding. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Joseito1875 said: I'm been wondering - I'm sorry if I'm repeating a question that has been answered - Rijin starting suffering the effects of the "death feedback" after incinerating the little minoshiro, because of the protection mechanism the minoshiro used. However, he got worse after killing all of those Bakenezumi. Satoru killeda bunch of Bakennezumi when running away, but he didn't suffer any after effects. Why is that? This is one thing this episode tried to show but because of, in my opinion, incompetent directing, it failed to show why this is the case and worse caused misunderstanding. First, let me be clear: Killing Bakenezumi does not trigger "death feedback" mechanism. So what happened to Rijin after he killed the bunch of Bakenezumi? The answer lies in the smoke that looks like a woman. Perhaps because of the vision of those images by Minoshiro, Rijin was already suffering from the "death feedback" and was particularly sensitive to human-like images. Somehow the smokes seemed to take a form of a woman, which further exacerbated Rijin's suffering. However, in anime they made the smoke look too close to a woman form - thus spurred speculation from fans that 1) Bakenezumi is human after all so attacking them create such image which hurts Rijin or 2) Bakenezumi had some secret weapon to deter human like Rijin. But in fact that scene proved none of the above. It is just unfortunate that in anime it was not made clear but instead caused confusion and misunderstanding. Oh, I see. I was also kind of speculating that the Bakenezumi were somehow related to the dissapearance of the children...or that they were former humans...but I guess I was wrong. It's just a case of bad directing. Thanks for clearing things up. |
| "We should be more proud of NEETs! Love the country that strives to produce NEETs, for world peace, we must stand up! We must find more non NEET-in-waiting elites, learn from each other , form a new Japanese Party, and bravely challenge the evil! Grow, NEETs! Grow like blazing fire! NEETs!” |
| Things are certainly picking up. The pace seems fine. But is it just me or did the chara designs go through a huge make-up? Especially Satoru went to full mode good looking bishie mode. But then again in the preview he was pretty much back to normal. Oh and did they almost have the s-e-x in the prison thingie? Great episode which proves Shinsekai Yori is one of the best shows this season. 5/5 Sent with Mal Updater |
| Some poor animation this episde. |
Sir_Lexa said: Things are certainly picking up. The pace seems fine. But is it just me or did the chara designs go through a huge make-up? There is a new episode director and episode chief animator. The unique style that was brought in caused the substantial inconsistency of the look of the character design and sakuga (still frames and animation). And the directing in this episode seems to have confused many watchers too. Sir_Lexa said: I wrote several posts about what happened in this episode. They may have the answer you are seeking:Oh and did they almost have the s-e-x in the prison thingie? http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=509423&show=140#msg18006707 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=509423&show=200#msg18010031 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=509423&show=240#msg18016211 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=509423&show=340#msg18112963 |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| ^^^ I see. Thanks for clearing some things up. |
| I gotta say... Satoru was incredibly sexy in this episode wasn't he? |
KinetaNov 2, 2012 4:45 PM
| this was a strange episode |
| I gotta tell the truth... that was disturbing. Especially with the shifting, inconsistent animation. Honestly freaked me out a bit.. I might not be able to handle this XD I thought it was all happy but it just got SCARY mann... those monster rats creep me out so much, probs gonna watch a few more episodes, but I'm dropping it if I can't take it lol |
| I barely ever come to these discussions, but from what I hear... The art looked like sand inside a vagina...? Well that must be pretty sexy, cuz I'm a fan of this series' art style, even when it's this inconsistant. |
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| While I can't really say yet since I've only watched a bit past the 'almost sex scene', I understand why they did the sudden change of animation. Obviously they took this step to make the characters look more mature, since they looked like middle schoolers with the old animation and that would be highly inappropriate with such intimate scenes. For the directing tough, no clue. It's too much in your face, literally. |
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Pindakaas said: Even if what you said is true, this should not be done in the middle of an arc. And the art style reverted to the original style in the next episode - just changing the art style for one whole episode just for that minute or so intimate scene is a bit hard to believe.I understand why they did the sudden change of animation. Obviously they took this step to make the characters look more mature, since they looked like middle schoolers with the old animation and that would be highly inappropriate with such intimate scenes.. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| dropped because so uber boring D: |
| So uhh.......kids have *** in this series huh? I thought Saki and Satoru moment in the cage was so weird... |
walk said: LOLOLOL saki is such a tease omg. "i'll do it, stay still. wait no nvm --" I laughed so much |
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| They sure know how to do cliffhangers |
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| Best episode yet. Loved it! |
| WTF? I just watched episode 4 and now this.. I thought in the beginning, those are not the main characters bcoz they suddenly got tall and their faces kinda changed. O.O In the 4th episode, they look like just a little children. In this episode, it's very opposite. Their faces changed.. The colors of their eyes.. The colors of their face.. and their facial expression.. They all changed. They become matured. I like the other one more than this.. By the way, where's Shun? I misunderstood Satoru from Shun bcoz of the graphics. |
| This series is really suspenseful, I really like it. I like how serious and grave everything is, the very different world, and everything else. I also like the music, seems to fit well. 5/5. |
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symbv said: HosannaExcelsis said: Like it or not, the style of direction, animation, and art isn't an accident or a result of rushed production that the staff will later go back and fix, it's the idiosyncratic personal style of episode director Shigeyasu Yamauchi being allowed to run wild. Very much so, and don't forget there is also Junichi Hayama, the animation director for this episode, too. The first ridiculous thing is that al this people dodn't even know that artwork=/=animation. Animation is the movement you silly uneducated masses. The artwork is what changed in this episode. Personally i find this look of the characters a lot better. Considering the atmosphere of the anime this kind of look fits them a lot better than the more chipi moeblob look they had before. I wish the whole show was like this. There was no drop in quality at all just different style and this people can't even realize that. It's annoying how ignorant or blind most people are. Anyway this show still confuses the hell out of me. The girl stopped the sexual moment because of what she heard. The desire for constant sex like that was put into them according to that library thingy and now she felt that doing it whenever they are stressed was not truly natural since it was put into them by those monkeys the scientist studied. That's why she said we are not monkeys. Strangely novel readers say she had no such dilemma. mitch3315 said: symbv said: Shoujo_Q said: He's still with Maria, Mamoru and Shun. We didn't follow them this episode after Satoru and Saki got separated from them. HE IS DEAD. See? The direction has a problem here. Even this simple scene is botched. The only explanation I can see is that the scene that indicates he is killed may have too much gore. They may put it back in the BD, perhaps. Am I the only one who got that the monk was killed? As soon as I saw his face mask on the ground the first thought was "he dead". I thought it was obvious too. I don't know why this people had a hard time realizing it. |
MonadDec 26, 2012 10:59 AM
| I'm going to be honest, i didn't notice an art/animation drop at all |
| If you liked this episode's directing, art and animation, go watch Mars of Destruction. I'm sure you're gonna love it. |
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RockerXD said: I'm going to be honest, i didn't notice an art/animation drop at all ^THIS. Animation quality was the same. The art style was different(and better IMO, since it was reminiscent of Casshern Sins and characters looked more mature and nuanced). of course haters gonna hate because "Bawwww not moe enough now" |
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| ^ looks better, I'm glad they changed stuff. Many faces get to look like the actual character designs. The darker atmosphere makes everything more eerie. |
| lol it looks like that one episode from Shakugan no Shana. |
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| Kyaa, in this episode Saki and Satoru looks older than I thought they were. Though seeing a really young Saki and Satoru being on the verge of having sex is just no for me. Animation is different and I did notice weird smiles being played here and there.. O.o all in all, though the animation change us sudden, it isn't that bad (however I'm no expert!). Saki's skin tone looks more olive too.. O: Anyway, seems the priest that was leading then died from the monster that blew up. and the queerats are after them; they end up splitting up, with Saki getting hurt and help from Satoru. Thus, lots of Satoru and Saki moments O: Including some pretty intense moments as well. Both of them meet the Queen queerat of a certain colony (who looks pretty... creepy). Ends with yet more trouble; Satoru yelling Saki's name and it seems that either the bad rats are chasing them or the cave is falling down. Next episode!^^ |
xriceball26Mar 20, 2013 9:45 PM
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| The scenes jumped around too much really. I don't care if the animation and art sucked weren't as good as before episodes. I'm utterly confused. LOL 3.5/5 for just this episode. |
deadsea said: mayukachan said: The scenes jumped around too much really. I don't care if the animation and art sucked weren't as good as before episodes. I'm utterly confused. LOL 3.5/5 for just this episode. BD version fixed that. I'm watching the old version then. But it's okay. No biggie. |
| Dat Animation :( , 5/5 for episode though |
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| omg this show is going nuts.I loved the first chapters but the twists in the plot are driving me crazy |
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| I didn't really mind the Art Change, but had a problem with the animation in the action sequences, like for example when Saki and Satoru jumped/fell into the querrats nest, it just looked weird. Very interesting to see that the genetics of the humans really were changed to be more like Bonobo Apes xD Can't wait to watch the next episode. :) |
| "Truth is always a delusion." - Friedrich Dürrenmatt |
| Nice development so far! I'm not a fan of the straight approach of the relation between those two... especially not the actions they're going to take when they were taken prisoners, it doesn't fit the atmosphere at all or at least not with that direct approach, it would be interesting on the long run though! The latter part was rather nice, interesting stuff happening there and especially the ending was good ending the episode off with a great cliffhanger! Good episode, but I just hope they don't ruin the setting by putting in stuff like mentioned before! |
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| Whats up with the art style change? Looks like some serious budget-cutting. Unless it was somehow intentional like a particular episode of Gurren Lagann back in the day. EDIT: Read up about it in this thread. Pretty stupid that this sort of thing happens. At least the BD fixed it. |
5layerApr 8, 2013 1:49 AM
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walk said: LOLOLOL saki is such a tease omg. "i'll do it, stay still. wait no nvm --" LOOOL That was some of the weirdest shit I have ever seen out of all the anime I have completed. Like for real, that was some Hills Have Eyes shit right there! And are they inside someones stomach? Seems that way to me. LOL |
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walk said: The whole scene just felt so weird :/LOLOLOL saki is such a tease omg. "i'll do it, stay still. wait no nvm --" I know, everyone said it already, but really...What the heck happened with the animation and the pacing/jumping? I really hope there won't be any more episodes like this. This was probably the worst episode so far. |
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| My favorite episode so far. I don't get all the hate but I liked it. I really liked all the Satorou and Saki moments. |
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yume00 said: Lol That's hentai? Wow...this ep make me think about drop this anime !! i don't watch hentai -__-"!! i'll see more tow ep then I'l decide Anyway, yeah the art style was different but I don't think it was BAD. Then again that's just my opinion. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| Episode 5 is actually one of favorite episodes, along with episode 25. I loved the Satoru/Saki moment, plus I feel that this episode is when things started to get really interesting. It's too bad that all people take away from this episode was "oh my god, the art was horrible!" (Which, it wasn't. It looked a bit different but it wasn't terrible.) |
YayPepsiMay 18, 2013 9:06 AM
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| Sekkusushiyouze, beibii! |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| I'm actually glad they changed the "sex" scene the way they did. I don't buy the idea that having controversial sexuality somehow makes the story better (and some even praise it because it's different from the norm). I know some would probably argue with me about this but I simply don't care. I have never liked it, even if it's important to the story. I remember reading "Brave New World" and hating the "recreational sex" that was in the book (which included children of a very young age). |
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