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Hannah_Ana said: Did Pouf really die in the lamest way possible? I was sure Pouf was going to go out in a blaze of gunfire, but he was poisoned to death. Seriously? I would say that the way Pouf died, alone and broken, was really fitting. It was a great moment, imo. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Wow. This has made it as my favorite shounen arc of all time. That was simply amazing and emotional.. thank you, Madhouse. |
| great episode, great ending, nice arc .. really, I have to admit that I can't stand the slow pace for the first 10 episodes when meruem start to rule the palace, like it's going nowhere but in the end I was getting carried away and enjoy this arc so much, the slow pace has a deep meaning for this very final moment of the arc, it's hard indeed to hate meruem .. I have trained for this kind of feel trip but still feel sad ... beautiful episode 10/10 |
AppleJinx said: Pitou is a female in the anime because Togashi regretted making this character a male in the manga Source? |
DalPuri said: AppleJinx said: Pitou is a female in the anime because Togashi regretted making this character a male in the manga Source? I was wondering the same, lol. Though I do think anime Pitou is a female and manga is a male. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| as powerful as he got, his death was rather a weak one. but this was a far more emotionally charged ending than you get in the manga. that last scene just makes this arch so much better. |
| To those complaining about the preview music playing immediately after the final scene and totally killing the mood of it, this was because of certain circumstances and I don't think anyone should be blamed for it. First of all, this IS a show that's airing on TV, and any show that's airing on TV obviously has commercials in it. Commercials were shown after the final scene, and the preview for the next episode a couple of minutes later. It just so happened that we watched this without commercials, which places the preview IMMEDIATELY AFTER the final scene, hence the unavoidable mood-killing, whereas in the TV airing, the commercials would probably give you time for the feels to sink in and not complain about the preview music playing after. |
| Not to mention that, even if Pouf somehow could have saved himself, his entire reason for living is gone. The minute Meruem said that it would be nice if Welfin "could live as a human", Pouf was broken. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
xieghart said: The preview music didn't really take away the impact from the two's final moment to me. Yeah, me too. Just scratching my head on why people who thought playing the preview music right after the last scene killed its impact would place blame on anyone. |
jreginald said: insan3Spectre said: Dude.......too soon. lol not for me! But seriously, it's love. I liked Candor's explanation of it. It transcends love! lol |
| The world is not what it seems. |
Candor said: DalPuri said: It's probably a translation mistake 'cause Pitou says "boku" all the time, and that's personal pronoun for a male. Thing is, it's also a personal pronoun for tomboys and uncivilised creatures , so the translator didn't have that in mind while translating or something, probably.Source? Oh, I see. So Pitou was always female (although gender doesn't really matter for ants). Mystery solved! |
| one of the best arc ever if not the best,,, the ending for the king and komugi was very fitting...my tears wont just stop T_T meruem=best villian ever been developed! this show is still 10/10!! |
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| So sad ;(. I never read the manga or looked up any spoilers so all this was a surprise to me, i don't want him to die he was good now T-T. But i do have to say it was nice, they both went together. |
| Cried so much this episode ;_ ;, so sad yet beautiful, i can still feel my eyes heavy ;_ ; 10/5 |
Symbol said: I thought that The King would be so powerful and hard to defeat, that so one could stop him, then Gon's father would actually finally appear, if for a brief moment to stop him. Yeah, a cliché like that would have been definitely better, totally not trivial and stupid. |
| ^ You'll see more of Ging later on. And given what you see of him, you'll see why it's out of his character to show up for these guys. Also, I don't see a better ending BECAUSE they're such powerful beings. The hell do you expect the Hunters to do at this point? |
jreginaldJun 29, 2014 7:27 AM
Symbol said: ValeBreck said: Yeah, a cliché like that would have been definitely better, totally not trivial and stupid. I guess you are a hard fan of soap operas and chick flicks, hey that is cool man, do your thing, grab your blanket and teddy bear while you're at it. Just my opinion, no need for you kids to go crazy, just saying what I thought. Just a simple opinion, calm down childs. Where did I exactly go crazy? No seriously, tell me. You are the only one who has lost it and should calm down. You probably realized how stupid was what you said and now you are trying to make me look like a kid, good job dude, you are very smart. |
ValeBreck said: Symbol said: I guess you are a hard fan of soap operas and chick flicks, hey that is cool man, do your thing, grab your blanket and teddy bear while you're at it. Just my opinion, no need for you kids to go crazy, just saying what I thought. Just a simple opinion, calm down childs. Where did I exactly go crazy? No seriously, tell me. You are the only one who has lost it and should calm down. You probably realized how stupid was what you said and now you are trying to make me look like a kid, good job dude, you are very smart. Don't bite the bait. |
| Amv: Meruem & Komugi - I was Born for this moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bSWenDkphk Thanks for watching |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
cronosteso23 said: Amv: Meruem & Komugi - I was Born for this moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bSWenDkphk Thanks for watching Great amv. Got teary eyed while watching it. |
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TonyTonyStark said: Don't bite the bait. Looks like that really was a bait. Or, at least, I don't want to believe there are people that can be so dumb. Gg, Symbol, you destroyed me. |
TyrelJun 29, 2014 6:35 PM
Symbol said: I thought that The King would be so powerful and hard to defeat, that no one could stop him, then Gon's father would actually finally appear, if for a brief moment to stop him. . You just took it in the wrong way. I don't understand why you still think Meruem as "villain that should be killed in order to save the world" like Madara or Aizen when it already shown that Meruem redeemed and gain his own humanity and what he want to do is just playing Gung-Gi and means no harm on anyone anymore. And you want some unbelievable strong people come to slaughter him as it is a heroic thing to do. And there is no way Ging will show up here as that jerk was not your heroic hero, too. It has nothing to do with him. So why he care??? No no. it is a big no. What this arc imply is simple fact, "In order to retain human as top on chain food, Meruem must be killed", that's all. It's far different from generic heroic mission. |
MShukyDeneuve said: Symbol said: I thought that The King would be so powerful and hard to defeat, that no one could stop him, then Gon's father would actually finally appear, if for a brief moment to stop him. . You just took it in the wrong way. I don't understand why you still think Meruem as "villain that should be killed in order to save the world" like Madara or Aizen when it already shown that Meruem redeemed and gain his own humanity and what he want to do is just playing Gung-Gi and means no harm on anyone anymore. I'm pretty sure if it weren't for the poison. Meruem would have still went with his plan of ''justice''. Because he was dying, he wanted live his last moments with Komugi. So yes, if the bomb weren't there, he would have needed to be taken care off. |
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tsudecimo said: MShukyDeneuve said: You just took it in the wrong way. I don't understand why you still think Meruem as "villain that should be killed in order to save the world" like Madara or Aizen when it already shown that Meruem redeemed and gain his own humanity and what he want to do is just playing Gung-Gi and means no harm on anyone anymore. I'm pretty sure if it weren't for the poison. Meruem would have still went with his plan of ''justice''. Because he was dying, he wanted live his last moments with Komugi. So yes, if the bomb weren't there, he would have needed to be taken care off. Well, Komugi trump card still there. So even without poison, all he do will be playing Gung-Gi similar how he was before invasion. He knows surely about he was dying after touching Palm aura, but before that, he still spare Welfin life and not smash him like he usually do. Komugi makes him non-threatening mythical beast just like Colt position. But sadly he still must be executed in order for retaining human might on top. That's the only problem. But if that no poison scenario appear, he will be eliminated not because he is dangerous. That's huge difference. |
MShukyDeneuve said: Well, Komugi trump card still there. So even without poison, all he do will be playing Gung-Gi similar how he was before invasion. He knows surely about he was dying after touching Palm aura, but before that, he still spare Welfin life and not smash him like he usually do. Komugi makes him non-threatening mythical beast just like Colt position. But sadly he still must be executed in order for retaining human might on top. That's the only problem. But if that no poison scenario appear, he will be eliminated not because he is dangerous. That's huge difference. I don't think so. When he told his plans to Netero prior to the fight. Komugi wasn't dead, or at least there was a possibility that she will be alive. He wanted to do those plans because of Komugi influence, where she changed it from simply killing all humans, to something else. Of course he will still play, and spend his time with Komugi, but that doesn't mean he will stop his plan. No, that part of him that smashes or hits ants who go against him, already changed before the memory loss. He would have just carried with his plan, thus he would need to be taken care of, since he posses a threat to humans. I don't get what you mean here. You are contradicting yourself. He must be executed because Humans want to stay on top, that implies that he is dangerous to them. Again, his last desires were to spend time with Komugi, because that's the most important thing to him. But that only happened because he knew he was dying. In a different scenario, were he simply killed Netero, and there was no bomb, he would still go with his plan, and probably kill Gon and company, if they opposed him. |
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| Beautiful ending to a great arc. I'll miss Meruem and Komugi's matches. |
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tsudecimo said: MShukyDeneuve said: Well, Komugi trump card still there. So even without poison, all he do will be playing Gung-Gi similar how he was before invasion. He knows surely about he was dying after touching Palm aura, but before that, he still spare Welfin life and not smash him like he usually do. Komugi makes him non-threatening mythical beast just like Colt position. But sadly he still must be executed in order for retaining human might on top. That's the only problem. But if that no poison scenario appear, he will be eliminated not because he is dangerous. That's huge difference. I don't think so. When he told his plans to Netero prior to the fight. Komugi wasn't dead, or at least there was a possibility that she will be alive. He wanted to do those plans because of Komugi influence, where she changed it from simply killing all humans, to something else. Of course he will still play, and spend his time with Komugi, but that doesn't mean he will stop his plan. No, that part of him that smashes or hits ants who go against him, already changed before the memory loss. He would have just carried with his plan, thus he would need to be taken care of, since he posses a threat to humans. I don't get what you mean here. You are contradicting yourself. He must be executed because Humans want to stay on top, that implies that he is dangerous to them. Again, his last desires were to spend time with Komugi, because that's the most important thing to him. But that only happened because he knew he was dying. In a different scenario, were he simply killed Netero, and there was no bomb, he would still go with his plan, and probably kill Gon and company, if they opposed him. Well, it's so hard to discuss things with you...First you said without poison, now you said without bomb. The fact that you bend words like that really annoying. If we play without poison route, then it will be Meruem go amnesia then remember Komugi...But then he pardoned everyone because he didn't kill Welfin and order Pouf to release Meleoron and Knuckle. And final words "it must be nice to live as human", that's where he goes full "human". That's how i reply this to begin with. Colt position as UMA is just like Lion, it is dangerous, but still in the range of human capability to manage it. So his life can be spared, it's not change the fact that Colt is dangerous even he means no harm anymore. But King is different, even he means no harm too, just his existence is enough to make human sense of danger afraid of him, at this point, he must be killed with he objectively a dangerous thing or not because human want to protect their stand on top of food chain. That's different. It's just like how some people just kill a bug on some random place just because they feels grossed about it. Even though the bug means no such thing. That's how this arc theme goes. That's why Netero don't want discussing thing about peace with Meruem. Because human and insect are so different, and there is no way human will accept Meruem as leader. |
| The way I see it, when Meruem heard the name "Komugi" from Welfin's mouth I think his desire to fight was done, over, finished. I mean, he says to Welfin "I hope you can live as a human". He didn't know he was dying until he used his en and found Palm. So, I don't think he had any desire to take over the world or whatever at that point. However, I can almost guarantee that the humans would still see him as an overall threat and pursue his death. Because, he could be very dangerous indeed if he somehow did re-awaken that desire in the future. But, the truth is that it's pretty ambiguous. We never will know if he would have still went through with his plans and, personally, I'm cool with that. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I just re-watched the episode and the feels still hit me. |
| I haven't cried this hard since watching Clannad.. |
KaramuKreemy said: I haven't cried this hard since watching Clannad.. Ditto :( What an amazing episode. I believe that many people who didn't like Meruem started to like ^^ |
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| Marathoning this anime was amazing. Wow, the emotional build up to this episode was so huge. So beautiful. On a side note. I wonder what Hisoka will think of the new Gon. |
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| ^ nice post. |
| Ah dang it, I cried fountains. Couldn't help myself though, this arc has been such a phenomenal ride. This arc was my favourite whilst I was reading the manga, I'm so happy that Madhouse made it even better. Amazing, just amazing. Meruem's character development, and many other characters is so crazily amazing. I can't get rid of these feels I have right now ;__; |
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