Darling in the FranXX Episode 14 Discussion

kammie7 said:


Problem is this reflects how little they or the narrative have progressed

DivineLion said:


you know what you are watching since this has a "drama" tag hoo boy

Sabrina_de_Boni said:


They both didnt show the best sides of them, but i can some how understand both a little.

Nyron said:


My opinion supported by facts is that this show is being held up by one dimensional characters with character arcs that are going towards obvious or uninteresting conclusions with no evidence being presented otherwise. That is the cornerstone of poorly written drama. This show is boring because everything is predictable, or takes so long to deliver a payoff that it is underwhelming.

This is a character drama driven show where every character has maybe one sentence of personality and development. No one has any interesting background. No one has any hobbies. They're developed just enough to be good enough for a short story or a movie but not a 24 episode show.

Just_Chicken said:


The more important thing is that Ichigo threw Goro's feeling into the trash can and close the lid. Poor guy...

asuna_g said:
I hope all Squad 13 except Hiro die as soon as possible. Man, that f.cking Ichigo I hope you die in a shithole. Sorry for the rage guys but I really hate this bitch

sauzt said:


Nice you can’t see the difference between a simple « dramma tag » & a « cringey forced drama » with deus ex machina everywhere. Drama isn’t only about « ooh let’s make 02 going to see Hiro at the exact same time when he escape to see her » this is just bad writing.

But if you like bad writing nice for you

Nyron said:


Everyone on this board is legitimately 12 or a Yugioh player, so mentally 12

YukiJudai_100 said:

your opinion that this boring is probably only a matter of personal preference. stop hating so much and focus on what you like instead of trying to discredit a show that has the potential to be a master piece.

FMmatron said:


Depending on the circumstances it's not always possible to make progress. And it actually has been indicated that things would play out like in this episode.

We also got 10 episodes left,so still plenty of time wrap things up properly.

Zarator said:


Personally, I'd rather see Hiro die than the rest of the squad lol.

Nothing of this would've happened if, you know, Hiro took advantage of his solo time with Ichigo to tell her honestly what he remembered inside Strelizia.

Prog_upworks13 said:


Another shitstorm on this thread incoming.

Fakegoose said:
Hiro destroyed what we wanted him to protect

Top_Sergeant said:
Ichigo is completely blinded by love. What, exactly, is Hiro supposed to do with the rest of his life? He can't pilot with you Ichigo, and you already know that. Is he just supposed to sit in his room forever? Hiro can only pilot with 02, and 02 only wants to be with Hiro. Everybody get out of their way and let them find some happiness.

SupremeEdgelord said:


Mmmh, i don't feel like reading the whole thread, 331 replies seem way too many for a thread popped up today, care to tell me what's the fuss about, please?

Anyway, this episode was slow and didn't progress much except showing more drama.

SaltyShoebill said:
Well also I have a mixed feeling if DarliFra becomes next Kill la Kill or a huge mess like Kiznaiver and Re:Creators :v

battlestarr said:
This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment.

1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned.

2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here.

3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing.

4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too.

battlestarr said:
This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment.

1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned.

2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here.

3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing.

4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too.

SaltyShoebill said:
Well also I have a mixed feeling if DarliFra becomes next Kill la Kill or a huge mess like Kiznaiver and Re:Creators :v

battlestarr said:
This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment.

1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned.

2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here.

3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing.

4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too.

kammie7 said:


The writers have control over the narrative so if it plays out like this it's their fault it's not unavoidable.

Also if it's planned to playout like this then it was a bad plan imo. I also don't like the idea of "well it has x amount of episodes so it could eventually happen" cause that argument could be made when your 50 episodes into a 100 episode show with no progression.

I understand and am ok with you having a tolerance for this, I'm just explaining why I dont.