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| Wtf is that sudden susanoo O_O |
 悲しい… 悲しいわ… 今日のこと、「お月さま」にも教えてあげないと。 あなたも… 私 “たち” の中に… 取り込んであげる。 |
thomasce10 said: I think you really doesnt understand what foreshadowing means, we all knew Naruto inherited the will of fire on which passed down though generations what happened makes no sense with the said foreshadowing, an example of it was the kyuubi itself, it was foreshadowed he would be able to control it and it did. The foreshadowing between Naruto and ashura was the Naruto and Sasuke inherited their will and they were going to fight against each other plus the fact that this battle inst just about "friends" but a conflict who goes trough the shinobi era No, it was pretty specific. And the words descendants were used. It's foreshadowing, and very clever imo. The will of fire resides in all of Konoha, but he specified Harishama from the Senju, and Naruto from Uzumaki, and the same goes for the hatred in the Uchihas, Sasuke and Madara. Like I said, there was no other possible way to foreshadow this, and specifically implying that Naruto and Sasuke are the descendants of the sage sons, is as good as it gonna get. The 3 pairs of them were connected with more than just will of fire and hatred. People just didn't pay attention to it, because they didn't think of it, and the sage sons were briefly mentioned. And it's just not that, a lot of setups, and events that happened in the arc, were really relevant in the war arc. The power wasnt foreshadowed, their will was. The chakra thing came from nowhere. Are you sure :D? THat's symbolism on Naruto being represented as the Sun, as some heroic figure that's not foreshadowing that's symbolism. It's a little hint for future events. It had meaning down the road. I'm not using this as prove anyway. What Obito said is my proof of the foreshadowing, that's just a little bonus. He reverted the edo tensei by rewriting the seal but he lose the ability to regenerate after that. Really? I didn't notice that. But why is that relevant to my point, about the will of Chakra? Then why only Obito was capable of doing that and not Jiraya that had a connection with Naruto? When Asuma died two times why he didnt do that despite having a connection with his students? Jiraiya didn't die near Naruto. An why would Asuma do that though? Obito did that for a purpose, and had a connection with Kakashi's chakra, unlike Asuma and his students. Nagato had the body that comes down from the Senju, it's the same as Naruto, to be able to use the rinnegan you need a senju body. Madara is the first one in history to awaken the Rinnegan. Him having the better control and harbor more power from it, than Nagato and Obito who borrowed the eyes from him, shouldn't be up for debates... |
tsudecimoAug 7, 2014 5:43 AM
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epicscreator said: Yes, the opposite is also true. However, my comment was directed toward someone who basically said that people were unanimously praising this chapter - which evidently isn't really true. The consensus going by the poll and the opinions on the thread, even disregarding all those fresh alternate accounts, seems to be that this was a polarizing chapter. Both sides are annoying though, haha. Oh. I see, my bad. Yeah they are both annoying, agreed :o |
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tsudecimo said: No, it was pretty specific. And the words descendants were used. It's foreshadowing, and very clever imo. The will of fire resides in all of Konoha, but he specified Harishama from the Senju, and Naruto from Uzumaki, and the same goes for the hatred in the Uchihas, Sasuke and Madara. Like I said, there was no other possible way to foreshadow this, and specifically implying that Naruto and Sasuke are the descendants of the sage sons, is as good as it gonna get. Descendants is one thing, transmigant is another, Naruto and Sasuke were not descendants of them but rather another reincarnation of them. And that wasnt foreshadowed. tsudecimo said: The 3 pairs of them were connected with more than just will of fire and hatred. People just didn't pay attention to it, because they didn't think of it, and the sage sons were briefly mentioned. Nope, they are connected because now they're the reincarnation of ashura and indra and they had their chakra, why the others Uchihas and Senjus didnt had the same thing? The answer is that they werent the reincarnation of said people; tsudecimo said: And it's just not that, a lot of setups, and events that happened in the arc, were really relevant in the war arc. Nope, the only setup was that Naruto and Sasuke would fight in a matter similar to hashirama and Madara and now they're going to fight to resolve Ashura and Indra business because they're their incarnation. tsudecimo said: The power wasnt foreshadowed, their will was. The chakra thing came from nowhere. Are you sure :D? Too bad, the image explains respectively the power of Senju and Uchiha, the uchiha's power Yin it's explained on the eyes, and Naruto is not a senju he's a uzumaki and the Yang part explains Hashirama's power, the yang was mostly the body due to the vitality and the fact they can be perfect jinchuurikis and the uchihas with the "create things from nothing" it's a perfect description of Sharingan's powers, like Susano'o, amateratsu and etc... It doesnt foreshadow they would get free powerup from their father from some afterlife plane. tsudecimo said: THat's symbolism on Naruto being represented as the Sun, as some heroic figure that's not foreshadowing that's symbolism. It's a little hint for future events. It had meaning down the road. I'm not using this as prove anyway. What Obito said is my proof of the foreshadowing, that's just a little bonus. Hint? it's a mere coincidence since Naruto was called the sun couple of times and nothing even happened after that, like the two suns chapter and after more or like Sakura's clan symbol resembling Naruto's clothes it's just coincidence. tsudecimo said: Really? I didn't notice that. But why is that relevant to my point, about the will of Chakra? It is relevant because the edo tensei revives someome by bringing back the soul to the body with Madara it was a completely different thing, tht wasnt his body and it turned his edo tensei body into a living one and that was the asspull. tsudecimo said: Jiraiya didn't die near Naruto. An why would Asuma do that though? Obito did that for a purpose, and had a connection with Kakashi's chakra, unlike Asuma and his students. Asuma still had stuff to say to his students and Jiraiya had stuff to say to Naruto too, it doesnt matter if he died near or not. The incosistence comes from this and the fact Obito had no chakra, he already exausted himself by opening that portal to rescue Sasuke, asspulled using Kamui to save Kakashi, all this despite the fact he was dying and losing chakra and he asspulled once again by giving enough chakra to transfer his eyes to Kakashi. tsudecimo said: Madara is the first one in history to awaken the Rinnegan. Him having the better control and harbor more power from it, than Nagato and Obito who borrowed the eyes from him, shouldn't be up for debates... THen how Kakashi was able to pull off a Perfect Susano'o if even Obito could pull that off. There's no explanation. |
| I'm starting to get annoyed here, from your misunderstandings. Only feel like replying to one thing. Too bad, the image explains respectively the power of Senju and Uchiha, the uchiha's power Yin it's explained on the eyes, and Naruto is not a senju he's a uzumaki and the Yang part explains Hashirama's power, the yang was mostly the body due to the vitality and the fact they can be perfect jinchuurikis and the uchihas with the "create things from nothing" it's a perfect description of Sharingan's powers, like Susano'o, amateratsu and etc... I'm talking about the sage powers, that he gave to Naruto. All of what you said is irrelevant. That yang chakra was given from the sage to Naruto. That he used on Gai. That was my point. I didn't mean it as foreshadowing for Naruto to have it, I only meant that the power was already stated before. Ugh. |
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| You guys gotta realize, the author has to give them all power ups so that he can setup for the Teemu Warku ending. So the only one left to get one is Sakura (would be hilarious if she didn't though). Still, do people really think the series will go on after this arc? I mean...I doubt he could make as many power ups happen in a following arc (I guess he could) and he would just have to come up with more rediculous un-named foes. I guess it could happen but I don't think its leaning in that direction anymore. |
thomasce10 said: tsudecimo said: No, it was pretty specific. And the words descendants were used. It's foreshadowing, and very clever imo. The will of fire resides in all of Konoha, but he specified Harishama from the Senju, and Naruto from Uzumaki, and the same goes for the hatred in the Uchihas, Sasuke and Madara. Like I said, there was no other possible way to foreshadow this, and specifically implying that Naruto and Sasuke are the descendants of the sage sons, is as good as it gonna get. Descendants is one thing, transmigant is another, Naruto and Sasuke were not descendants of them but rather another reincarnation of them. And that wasnt foreshadowed. tsudecimo said: The 3 pairs of them were connected with more than just will of fire and hatred. People just didn't pay attention to it, because they didn't think of it, and the sage sons were briefly mentioned. Nope, they are connected because now they're the reincarnation of ashura and indra and they had their chakra, why the others Uchihas and Senjus didnt had the same thing? The answer is that they werent the reincarnation of said people; tsudecimo said: And it's just not that, a lot of setups, and events that happened in the arc, were really relevant in the war arc. Nope, the only setup was that Naruto and Sasuke would fight in a matter similar to hashirama and Madara and now they're going to fight to resolve Ashura and Indra business because they're their incarnation. Are you sure :D? Too bad, the image explains respectively the power of Senju and Uchiha, the uchiha's power Yin it's explained on the eyes, and Naruto is not a senju he's a uzumaki and the Yang part explains Hashirama's power, the yang was mostly the body due to the vitality and the fact they can be perfect jinchuurikis and the uchihas with the "create things from nothing" it's a perfect description of Sharingan's powers, like Susano'o, amateratsu and etc... It doesnt foreshadow they would get free powerup from their father from some afterlife plane. tsudecimo said: THat's symbolism on Naruto being represented as the Sun, as some heroic figure that's not foreshadowing that's symbolism. It's a little hint for future events. It had meaning down the road. I'm not using this as prove anyway. What Obito said is my proof of the foreshadowing, that's just a little bonus. Hint? it's a mere coincidence since Naruto was called the sun couple of times and nothing even happened after that, like the two suns chapter and after more or like Sakura's clan symbol resembling Naruto's clothes it's just coincidence. tsudecimo said: Really? I didn't notice that. But why is that relevant to my point, about the will of Chakra? It is relevant because the edo tensei revives someome by bringing back the soul to the body with Madara it was a completely different thing, tht wasnt his body and it turned his edo tensei body into a living one and that was the asspull. tsudecimo said: Jiraiya didn't die near Naruto. An why would Asuma do that though? Obito did that for a purpose, and had a connection with Kakashi's chakra, unlike Asuma and his students. Asuma still had stuff to say to his students and Jiraiya had stuff to say to Naruto too, it doesnt matter if he died near or not. The incosistence comes from this and the fact Obito had no chakra, he already exausted himself by opening that portal to rescue Sasuke, asspulled using Kamui to save Kakashi, all this despite the fact he was dying and losing chakra and he asspulled once again by giving enough chakra to transfer his eyes to Kakashi. tsudecimo said: Madara is the first one in history to awaken the Rinnegan. Him having the better control and harbor more power from it, than Nagato and Obito who borrowed the eyes from him, shouldn't be up for debates... THen how Kakashi was able to pull off a Perfect Susano'o if even Obito could pull that off. There's no explanation. How is it a$$ pulling Chakra if he's dead ? Dead people have chakra... edo tensei is a different story. It was spirit ua connection not chakra. He fused with kakashi spiritually no homo. |
| Where is Sakura's Power Up? Naruto got a Power Up, Sasuke got a Power Up,Kakashi got a Power Up, and now Sakura's previous Power Up is close to useless |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
aggarwalvishal4 said: On the other hand Kakashi getting eternal mangekyu sharingan made me confuse, how the hell he got that beside that the summoning of sage of six path by first naruto and sasuke made me confused then it has been summoned by all previous hokage which made me more confused and on the other hand coming of kaguya also made me confuse how the hell these things are coming and spirit of sage of six path, all of sudden gave naruto and sasuke such a power up which irritates me, but this irritating series is just going on like it will never end, otherwise I love Naruto most among all the animes but this is taking my all the interest away, I don't know how I digested Madra getting his real body, previously we had seen that First Hokage's cell every one can not cope up with them but then all of sudden we found out Danzo, Madra, Obito all have good grasp of them, what the hell is going on in this series please stop this non sense now and make it some logical or share your logics behind this shit with us instead of skipping anime share your logics with us. It's Mangekyo Sharingan, it's not Eternal. Naruto and Sasuke didn't summon the sage. The sage came to them, because they had the chakra of his two sons. If you are wondering why he didn't show up to either Madara or Harishama, it's because Naruto and Sasuke are the first ones to work together, and this time, he wanted to support both of his sons, not just Asura. The Hokages summoned the sage. Because it requires Indara's chakra (found in Madra's lower half), Ashura's chakra (in Harishama), and the Kyuubi chakra (?). All three chakras made contact when Harishama touched the lower half of Madara. Kaguya came out of Madara, thanks to the manifestation of her will, also known as Zetsu. Kaguya originally was part of the creation of the ten tails, Zetsu was able to release her from the body of the Jin. I have no idea what you are talking about, after the Kaguya thing. Where are these new accounts coming from.. |
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| Obito, why can't you leave my memories forever. |
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tsudecimo said: Naruto and Sasuke didn't summon the sage. The sage came to them, because they had the chakra of his two sons. If you are wondering why he didn't show up to either Madara or Harishama, it's because Naruto and Sasuke are the first ones to work together, and this time, he wanted to support both of his sons, not just Asura. Nope. You should read carefully. It was stated that depending of the transmigrants power the soul of Hagoromo can be summoned. tsudecimo said: The Hokages summoned the sage. Because it requires Indara's chakra (found in Madra's lower half), Ashura's chakra (in Harishama), and the Kyuubi chakra (?). All three chakras made contact when Harishama touched the lower half of Madara. Hashirama was irrelevant in this case. Hashirama didn't even transmit his chakra to Madara, no. Madara already had Ashuras, Indoras and Jūbis power inside him. Due to those three powers, Hagoromo could come out into the real world. The question is: why could he do that? His own chakra signature isn't able to do that, as his statement implies it. No offense intended though. |
Jet_Nice_GuyAug 8, 2014 1:51 AM
| Of all things that Kishi could do he choose to give Kakashi MS and perfect Susanoo? *sigh even the Pure Uchiha Genius, Madara had to die TWICE to actually master and use it, the same with Sasuke, he need to endure enormous pain and with the help of Itachi eye prowess then he actually able to master it. and then Kishi said "let there be Kakashi Perfect Susanoo, he willed it, and at once there was Kakashi Perfect Susanoo" as expected from Kishi, he keep pulling thing out from his ass. |
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Megghio said: How can Obito go back to Rin now if he doens't have Kamui anymore? And about the asspulls, something like 2 chapters ago when Kaguya made some gravity shit, Kakashi and Obito could move while Sasuke, Naruto and even Kaguya couldn't. He didn't use Kamui in the first place. All of that was symbolic. It was his lingering chakra, that made him meet Kakashi, in that spirtual place, give him that gift. Each chapter, people choose not to pay attention. Kaguya changed the gravity concentration to focus on Sasuke and Naruto, thus Obito and Kakashi were able to move. That Rin thing was also symbolic. Cruzniq said: Bullshit. Everything's been bullshit since thirty chapters ago. I'm not a huge Neji fan, but Kishimoto chose to kill him off, but bring back Might Gai and then let Obito travel through dimensions to give Kakashi a power he shouldn't be able to use? As if no one would question it? I distinctly remember the sharigan requiring a lot of chakra and a lot of time to hone it, and now Kakashi can just use it....with a perfected Susanoo....? That's because Neji's death served a purpose, while Gai's wouldn't have. He didn't travel through any dimension, check my reply above. Actually Sasuke did question how Kakashi was able to do all of that. Obito most likely gave him his last bit of Chakra. But I agree him going straight to perfect Susanoo was quite jarring. I wish it didn't happen. |
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Bunny ears right here along with hind legs in this image. tsudecimo said: Megghio said: How can Obito go back to Rin now if he doens't have Kamui anymore? And about the asspulls, something like 2 chapters ago when Kaguya made some gravity shit, Kakashi and Obito could move while Sasuke, Naruto and even Kaguya couldn't. He didn't use Kamui in the first place. All of that was symbolic. It was his lingering chakra, that made him meet Kakashi, in that spirtual place, give him that gift. Each chapter, people choose not to pay attention. Kaguya changed the gravity concentration to focus on Sasuke and Naruto, thus Obito and Kakashi were able to move. That Rin thing was also symbolic. She is talking about her aim. We you're saying makes no sense. In the next chapter Kaguya is still affect by the gravity. The shadowy figure probably had something to do with it. |
Man_of_SinAug 8, 2014 2:35 PM
| thank you kichi, thank you so very mush for turning this masterpiece into a steaming pile of shit!!! -_- ..... and here i thought that naruto becoming JESUS was the peek ass pull of this series (clearly there is more to come) , then you come up with this CRAP!!!! .... DROPPED AS HELLLL!!!!! |
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tsudecimo said: I know what they mean. If you disagree then name a Uchiha (With a fully matured sharingan) fight, that didn't involve any asspulls, contrived coincidences/conveniences or their opponent doing something stupid. Susanoo was first revealed after Sasuke tried to fry Itachi with an actual lightning bolt and like everything MS-related it isn't foreshadowed.KantonKageX said: Susanoo is the personification of Plot Armor and Uchiha are walking Deus Ex Machinas. Just saying. If you are being serious, then not really. I suggest looking up what the term means. |
KantonKageX said: tsudecimo said: I know what they mean. If you disagree then name a Uchiha (With a fully matured sharingan) fight, that didn't involve any asspulls, contrived coincidences/conveniences or their opponent doing something stupid. Susanoo was first revealed after Sasuke tried to fry Itachi with an actual lightning bolt and like everything MS-related it isn't foreshadowed.If you are being serious, then not really. I suggest looking up what the term means. I'm not going to list every Uchiha fight. You just state which fight you think had deus ex machina. It will be quicker that way. |
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| Great laughs, thank you!!! And I thought it couldn't get any worse.. The only thing I liked was Sasuke's "WTF???" face, I had the same face... QUOTE "Isaac Lian 2 days ago (edited) If you search "Asspull" on google, the results you get are pictures of Naruto. No bullshit." Hahahaha I just tried and it's true.... |
vedatsvetAug 9, 2014 3:31 PM
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. |
Dark_Messiah said: hawkeye said: Eyes aren't even plug & play anymore, they're downloaded wirelessly LMAO! This fits so much. |
TonyTonyStark said: Dark_Messiah said: LMAO! This fits so much. Rather, it much more like map network drive for sharing folder. Obito clearly stated he somehow "connected" with Kakashi. So both are working in the same office. |
DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. |
epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! |
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tsudecimo said: epicscreator said: It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. |
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epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. That's quite a misrepresentation of what we feel. If what you say is accurate then this chapter would have about 95% 5/5 votes. The character is bland, he's not very fleshed out. Cool characters like him get old over time. The novelty of their antics wears out. "Oh cool he's got a new surprise power up his sleeve" can only work so many times...... Per character. It just doesn't help that he happens to be useless, Neither does the fact that the only way he could escape being useless is a plot hole-riddled deus ex machina. |
Danpmss said: tsudecimo said: Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. Kakashi getting a stupid power up doesn't affect his past conflicts, and relationship with Obito. Unless you specifically mean the Team 7 dynamics :o |
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tsudecimo said: Danpmss said: That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. Kakashi getting a stupid power up doesn't affect his past conflicts, and relationship with Obito. Unless you specifically mean the Team 7 dynamics :o Yeah, that was my point (replying to the things you mentioned so far). |
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| I'm surprised this ended up causing more of a shitstorm than the kaguya revealed, still i do think its funny how saskue was pretty much calling out how bullshit this whole situation was in the last few panels |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| i liked it. at first i didn't understand what exactly happened/how it did but after some thought it made more sense. |
JizzyHitler said: I'm surprised this ended up causing more of a shitstorm than the kaguya revealed, still i do think its funny how saskue was pretty much calling out how bullshit this whole situation was in the last few panels Also, don't forget BZ reaction, too. So much for so called mastermind. |
epicscreator said: It's okay though.DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. His dedicated fangirls will still be there for him, no matter what. and I'm totally not one of them |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. Kakashi was one of the last 'Shinobi-like' characters in Naruto. Even against the Bijū he didn't have to use overpowered Jutsu like Bijūdama to defend himself and his friends. That characteristic is gone and the way of doing it was kinda nonsense. |
Behemoth11 said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. Kakashi was one of the last 'Shinobi-like' characters in Naruto. Even against the Bijū he didn't have to use overpowered Jutsu like Bijūdama to defend himself and his friends. That characteristic is gone and the way of doing it was kinda nonsense. It's not like they hating Kakashi, it's because of how he handled by Kishi. I thought everyone(okay..it's most) agree that this Susano'o decision was a bad thing. I can't believe there actually someone who actually dislike this character. At most people just called him "average" for whatever reason. But now things turned out like this, you can't blame those hate wave either. Just because i like a character, didn't mean that i would accept everything the author came up with for that said character. |
| MY KAMUI IS ONE THAT'LL PIERCE THE HEAVENS or hell epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. sooo people dislike Kakashi because he's not badass............in a chapter where he gained a badassery upgrade seems legit |
King_of_HereticsAug 11, 2014 6:57 PM
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| Goddamnit! Right when the biggest hatestorm of the manga is going on, i decided to 'wait for a explanation in the next chapter1' ;-; |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
vongola-undecimo said: MY KAMUI IS ONE THAT'LL PIERCE THE HEAVENS or hell epicscreator said: It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. sooo people dislike Kakashi because he's not badass............in a chapter where he gained a badassery upgrade seems legit Depends on how you see the situation. He needed a crappy deus ex machina to become "badass" again. That's not badass at all to me. Still like him though, just didn't like how Kishi used him here. |
| I think it's really an exaggeration to call it a deus ex machina... |
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| Fair enough, though at the least I think it's asspull-ish in nature (Kakashi being able to use full armor Susanoo just like that). |
epicscreator said: Fair enough, though at the least I think it's asspull-ish in nature (Kakashi being able to use full armor Susanoo just like that). Yeah. I would have preferred if it's just Kamui again. Asspull or not, Susanoo doesn't fit him or his character at all, it was so jarring to see it, I don't see any badassery about it. |
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| @Boombawks yeah I guess, no way the votes would go up this fast. Not for this chapter anyway. Unless Obito came back from the dead to hand them over. |
| These guys actually really liked this chapter and they give some decent reasons on why.. I just want to see what you guys think about what they said. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NraOCEZiDaw |
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