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| man, this episode had some incredible art, animation, and direction |
| people actually think this episode had bad animation? I loved this episode more than any other of this show because of it, well I guess everyone has their own tastes as for the ending I kinda felt something bad was going to happen but I definitely did not expect that |
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PaninaManina said: I'm still so mad for trigger having ruined this episode... but this history is so good and I can't help but think about the episode. I still didn't read any comments because I don't want to see people defending this atrocious animation, so excuse me if someone already pointed this. So, the hiruko, the monster, in this episode was obviously Jugo's mother. No one questions this, right?  Totori isn't the only one. The kids from the Academy are living in the outside world, some had children themselves, and these children are special. The reasons why Maru can kill the monsters is because of some "power" the inherited from his mother, probably Tokio, just like Jugo's inherited from his mother, the monster in this episode. Totori probably have some "power" she isn't aware. And in episode 8 we discovered that the children from the Academy may transform into monsters after they die. Putting these two information together in this episode, I was thinking: if there was kids from the Academy, or if the "Walled City" was created by kid from the Academy, which of the kids had interest in sex and reproduction? Naturally I remembered these two:  Juichi wasn't only going to flee with Jugo's mother, he was going to flee with her and other women to whom she looked very close. And look at that, one had brown and long hair, the other dark and short hair.  The two were executed after the failed escape attempt, and one month later the monster appeared. That monster was born from of their corpses, right? All previous information fits together. Render_1 said: Does it really matter how "talented" they are? It doesn't matter who drew it, to me those shots just really, really did not fit the rest of the anime. They aren't low quality, they just don't work (in my opinion). It's just that simple. You are all witness of how much I praised how this series is handling the sexual elements and themes. And what these morons did in this episode? Focused on the sexual "jokes" in the most juvenile and immature way possible. How idiotic brain dead decisions like this are made? This adaptation was succeeding so much in an style and tone that it's the antithesis of everything Trigger represents! Nice catch with the charm on the man-eater's leg. I wonder if the other mom became a man-eater as well after death and if we'll see anything about that in future episodes. |
| Never a happy ending in this anime. Also, I don't get why so many people are complaining about the animation. You may disagree about the art but the animation was definitely superb. |
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| Crazy episode again, so they just let the Hiruko in baby form escape? I wonder what the guy will do from now on, and why the baby never attacked its surrounding before. If its true that the first man eater we see was the babys mother I wonder if she will come up again, since they missed its core. Also interesting that man eaters have special abilities, so far it was just a mutated body. The production quality of this show is really something else, looking at the mangas score you can tell this adaptation greatly improves the source material. PS: you can tell people have garbage taste when they call this animation bad, they probably think Mob had bad animation as well. |
Comander-07Jun 11, 2023 3:04 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| This was such a good episode, and honestly might be my favourite of this anime so far. The build up as they're going through the school, finding the survivors, thinking everything has gone one way and in the end it just switches up...perfect, love to see it! |
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HEBI_TAN said: Wich was as well a conscious stylistic choice people hated on for no reason?I dunno why people shit on this episode's art style I really liked it tho At least it's not terrible as TTGL ep 4 |
Meritas said: Yuasa isn't working much lately, even for the series he actually officially directed (Eizouken for example), so idk if it's possible, i'd like it too thoIf we are doing guest directors, can we get Ping-Pong's next? This one wasn't much to my taste, but I'm all for more experimentation. |
| Juichi's baby boy son was acting cold towards everyone hehe. No pun intended. Kiruko's instinct and intuition was relentless fighting against the man-eater. However, she almost froze to death while holding the baby. Maru was the mvp for using his Maru touch to get the baby away from Kiruko. Tokio was pregnant and every adult in the facility were going insane over it. Except the doctor ofc. Also that ending with Juichi was crazy. It felt like a villain arc. |
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| Man this episode was kinda all over the place. |
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| Feels really wierd for the animation style to change for just this episode, quite jarring. Some of the scenes looked noticeably well animated and others were more simplistic all the way to still frames. I dont hate how it looks but it just feels weird to do it this way for one episode because how distracting it becomes showing up so unexpectedly. Anyway wow I didn't expect that story would turn out to have been true entirely at face value afterall. I was expecting another situation like that anti medical tech cult where there just was a misunderstanding and warped perception of what actually went on. I totally can see why Juichi would kill the guy that betrayed him since he had grown fond of the two women he was with but they were killed and he was separated from his son. It probably was out of jealousy that someone would leave and him be left behind which is despicable cowardice. He could have let it go but I can see why he wouldn't. At least he got his son back and seemed so happy about it. Though jeez youd think he would kill the guy with his son a little further away than that holy shit hopefully the kid doesnt wind up traumatized though he seemed to not even notice. |
| What the actual hell was with that ice spider? |
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| Characters were an hella a lot more expressive then I recalled, seems that they went for a slightly more different art direction, no complains here I really like it actually. As for the episode was great, I though for a second that the kid was doomed but I'm glad that wasn't the case. Seems that this all event ended nicely unlike episode 8, except for what happened with Jugo's mother |
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| Did the budget run out on this episode or something? |
HajimeNozomiUwU said: lots of people know, its just that style over substance just ends up making the story much worse.Yeah he's just an idiot. Clearly doesn't know what stylized animation is. The comedy parts that broke character design were great. btw BONES does everything that trigger does but better, for example in mob psycho they capture the unique stylized art perfectly while delivering on the perfect tone in story. same with stuff like gintama. both ufotable and trigger are two of the most overrated studios in the anime community lmao. |
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| Wait a minute, they aborted Tokio faetus? Damn you corrupted director. Now i understand why the episode felt so much different by the art style direction, guess the random npc was not so random at all after the previous episode. Because dude really stole this whole episode plot just for his randomize-looking like story. Lmao. Well, idk how i feel with the baby tho. He seems to be infected by the man-eaters disease, but Maru refuse to defuse, since he's still so tiny and weakling, why not prolonged it for an unknown future, eh? Well a good thing to prolonged the whole plot too maybe? Anyway, whatever the case with Juuichi and his Walled Town saga, Maru and Kiru need to reach the facility asap. Before i lost patience on this hell of patience. Please... |
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| Great animation, certainly got the Trigger feel to it with the guest director for this ep. I also did not expect the pig breeding story to be real, but seeing the kid having icy powers would certainly indicate the executed mom was the hiruko encountered. I still wonder why the guy snitched on Juichi and the women escaping but I guess we'll never know for certain with him now dead. |
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| Damn, that was dark. I still can't handle all these dark episodes followed by that cutesy ending song. Why did they chose that |
| Holy what did I step into man. The crazy director for Cyberpunk: Edge Runner episode 6 makes a comeback here and he flipped up the script, what a delivery!!!! |
| Wow, yet another scene where the series attempts to make the viewers laught about sexual harrasment. Now not with characters of the same age, but with a middle aged perv groping a teenage girl with detailed animation. Doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, lol /s. God, I wished this series would have made it obvious from the get go that it would be this kind of show. To bad that I'm now invested in the story. And also, I really don't care if the animation was good or artistic on it's own. It felt just jarringly out of place here. Deciding in the 10th out of 13 episode, to suddenly change the art style multiple times in an episode is just incredibly distracting. |
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Ceyliel said: And why would it not? Sexual harassment is definitely a bad thing but laughing about it is not necessarily diminishing its seriousness or laughing at the victim. Like for any film or scenes making fun of horrible persons or acts. Otherwise, a film like JoJo Rabbit would not be allowed to exist.Wow, yet another scene where the series attempts to make the viewers laught about sexual harrasment. Now not with characters of the same age, but with a middle aged perv groping a teenage girl with detailed animation. Doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, lol /s. These scenes have a context and it's pretty obvious that nobody endorses what's happening on screen. Especially in this case, it definitely shows Juichi's gross side. Hell, the world would be a better place for women if people reacted like Maru when seeing gropers in real life. |
rvdboom said: If that was the point Kiruko would 1. react way differently, 2. he wouldn't stay on good terms with Juichi 3. the animation wouldn't show detailed wonky boob physics and 4. you could also have shown Juichi's gross side, without letting him succeed.Ceyliel said: And why would it not? Sexual harassment is definitely a bad thing but laughing about it is not necessarily diminishing its seriousness or laughing at the victim. Like for any film or scenes making fun of horrible persons or acts. Otherwise, a film like JoJo Rabbit would not be allowed to exist.Wow, yet another scene where the series attempts to make the viewers laught about sexual harrasment. Now not with characters of the same age, but with a middle aged perv groping a teenage girl with detailed animation. Doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, lol /s. These scenes have a context and it's pretty obvious that nobody endorses what's happening on screen. Especially in this case, it definitely shows Juichi's gross side. Hell, the world would be a better place for women if people reacted like Maru when seeing gropers in real life. Why can't Maru already hit him for the attempt? Why can't Kiruko just hit him, before he actually reaches the boobs? (Btw I only put my arguments in a list for more clarity, not because I want to make them in an agressive tone) The truth is sexual harrasment throughout many anime is portrayed as a silly little character flaw, but nothing serious. It's just an excuse to show the viewers the boobs up close. And yes, joking about serious topics isn't always bad, but in this case it definetly is "diminishing its seriousness” because it's building on a trope, that you can see everywhere in Anime and not many counter-examples (where it actually is taken seriously) come to mind. One woud be "Tomo-chan wa Onnanoko!", but afterwards Tomo get's partly blamed for the harrasment. Another one would be Berserk, but here we are talking about literal rape (in a fantasy setting). I really think you would also dislike seeing a comedy movie about Nazis if that literally was 90% (if not more) of all the portrayal the Nazi-era get's in media. It's not about joking about it once in a while, it is about me hoping this Anime would be a rare exception, and getting disappointed :/ |
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Ceyliel said: OK, you have a point here. I don't think we are in this situation in this show because in both cases, what happens makes sense in the storyline, it's not just "showing some boobs", but it's true that Japanese tend to direct this kind of scenes without much of a moral condemnation. It's also true that I dislike how this particular episode was directed, there's little subtlety in how the characters are acting and this particular scene is among them. The truth is sexual harrasment throughout many anime is portrayed as a silly little character flaw, but nothing serious. It's just an excuse to show the viewers the boobs up close. And yes, joking about serious topics isn't always bad, but in this case it definetly is "diminishing its seriousness” because it's building on a trope, that you can see everywhere in Anime and not many counter-examples (where it actually is taken seriously) come to mind. Yet I think you're making too much of a trial here. The characters harassing girls are rarely portrayed as nice guys or heroes. They are usually depicted as disgusting pigs. There are a lot of scenes depicting on the contrary the hero stopping a girl from being harassed, in the underground for instance. Although I understand that some people are bothered by what is commonly known as "tropes", I find it a very boring concept as it means to consider that the context does not have any importance. One isolates an idea or situation and because one finds it elsewhere, one considers that it's a trope repeated endlessly. Even though the same idea or situation can express completely different things depending on the context. In this anime, the context is one of a complete moral breakdown coming with the breakdown of the societies. Juichi, the "harasser", is a guy who has been raped for years by women with guns. I guess his libido must be closed to 0 here. Obviously this is not the same situation than when the hero of Mushoku Tensei harasses a girl (the example I can think of the "trope" you described). |
| I have one question. Maybe I am to stupid to understand,but in the finale, guy whom Juuichi killed moved his eyes and Juuichi was shocked. Is this have some meaning ? Or is it just to add mogę "drama" to this scene ? :) |
| Man Juichi just went Gigachad mode best freaking See You Bye Bye ver. |
| Oooh, really nice and cool animation direction this episode. I love to see it! I guess it's revenge but at the same time... he was taking care of the kiddo all that time.;; Should count for something, right? I guess that's why he gave the coat in the end, but dang. Oh well. I'm glad I got to see what was up with him though because I wasn't really sure if he was trustworthy or not either. Looks like we're slowly getting things figured out though. We'll see what's what soon! |
| The art and animation were pretty nice. Actually, this anime has a nice art and animation from the start. So yep, I will disagre with some people here. They are probably not enjoying the anime or something and they are trying to find something to talk bad about, and some are choosing the art/animation and of course failing miserably xD It´s that say: haters gonna hate, they don´t really have plausible reasons. Kirigirisu said: I have one question. Maybe I am to stupid to understand,but in the finale, guy whom Juuichi killed moved his eyes and Juuichi was shocked. Is this have some meaning ? Or is it just to add mogę "drama" to this scene ? :) Probably late reply but I think it does not have any major meaning, I believe it was just to create a bit of extra tension. |
TechOtakuAug 2, 2023 11:14 AM
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| Juuichi arc was the best part of this anime |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| Very jarring to change the animation style so drastically for one episode. For me it didn't work because visual experimentation was not an aspect of the series before. I haven't really found an explanation for what compelled them to do this. It wasn't like the content of this episode was anything that called for a different style. |
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