Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Marinate1016 said: Wow. Holy shit is all I can say. What an episode. I wasn’t expecting them to put so much into this week’s, I feel like the second trial was pretty rushed which took away the impact of it. I mean I understand the logic, and of course if you want the full story you should read the books, but feels like they could’ve done a little more with that. Could just be me. Dona’s speech in this episode is actually my favourite moment in the entire series as of arc 6 so I was very excited for that to be adapted and wasn’t disappointed at all. Loved the OST, the camera movements, Sakamoto Maya’s voice, everything was great. As a novel reader, 7/10 ep. Oi oi oi hide your possible spoiler mate Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenSep 23, 2020 2:46 PM
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| Well ladies and gentlemen, officially this episode of Re:Zero 2 is my 1000TH EPISODE!!! And I can't be more honored and happy to make this my milestone episode. Subaru is back once again in the Temple, besides Emilia which is struggling the trials. I really thought our good ol' OP theme "Realize" will play but White Fox 'nays' that motion again (so sad). What happens next will turn out to be one of my favorite scenes in the show so far. I always thought on what happens after Subaru leaves a "timeline". The reactions of the ones left behind from the unexpected "departure" by Subaru. AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW, WE GOT IT HERE ON EP 12. The first timeline shown during the RBD on S2 Ep1, was one of the pitiful ones. Imagine getting a triumphant victory against the White Whale, and suddenly once you regroup the hero (Subaru) who made the dream possible suddenly killed himself. That was a mindbreaker, especially for Emilia, which was just swayed a little while ago by his love for her, yikes. Different timelines also began to play, with Julian killing Natsuki (Petelguese), Rem during the mansion, Ram and Beatrice on the spiky cliffs, among many others. "Behold an unthinkable present" What a very twisted yet admirable way of giving a trial, I'll give it that. Also REM, or so we thought. Man I was actually thrilled of actually getting the Episode 18 of this season, but of course I don't want my feelings run rampant and I know it's not Rem. And something was off when she lets him down in her advice to him. Also Carmilla, the Witch of Lust is here along with Sekhmet, the Witch of Sloth. Let me tell you just how I love the reveal for Carmilla, that was so great on how they twist on revealing her. Favorite character reveal! And now we arrive to another talk with our favorite witch, Echidna...................................... The Eternal Contract is here! Now I haven't read the LN/WN obviously, yet Echidna saying about the contract that will bind her and Subaru are red flags in every direction. Thankfully Minerva came in for the save as she warns Subaru of Echidna's true plans. Also the "swapping witches" is a FALSE, that's alright. Now that every witches are here, the Witches' Tea Party has commenced. You know, even since Episode 2, I never really trusted Echidna 100%, because behind that beautiful aura of hers, she hides a terrible scheme. And when she spoke about the contract in further detail, the way her angelic smile turned into the true horrible witch aura and her greedy nature, will go down in my books as one of my favorite villainous reveal as well. And it's too bad that Beatrice was trapped in her contract not knowing that she was just trapped there by Echidna in the 'forbidden library'. With Subaru finally snapping on his fortunes on Echidna, the unexpected guest arrives. Satella is here! And that concludes an episode that doesn't have the OP and the ED, which we haven't gotten in a while. This was another 10/10 episode, my enjoyment for this show in this season reached a different level that I did not expect that I will feel, this is a first. The progression that we've been getting since Episode 8 is so perfect and hopefully with the last episode coming out next week, the show will conclude a ride that is aiming high like never before. My 1000th episode, and I couldn't be much more happier, maybe by the time I reach 2000th-2500th I might watch an episode of Re:Zero 2 pt.2 in Winter 2021. |
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| Things are getting heated up. All of the witches are present in this tea party. Subaru almost going for the help of Echidna, but ya boi didn't. He's desperate, but not that desperate. |
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MegamiRem said: Wait uh so wth he wasn't going back in time but was going in other paralal worlds? This is the type of stuff I absolutely despise in time travel series. Wtf is the point of even going back in time then ffs. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. See it like this. Humans are inherently subjective creatures. While we know about objective reality, in the end we still percieve everything through the lense of our lived reality, putting us in its center. When Subaru uses RBD, he leaves behind *a* reality, but that doesn't mean it's *his* reality. Really, this concept of time travel makes anyone going back just a creator of their own reality, because in the end their created reality is as real as any other reality. Also, boiling it down to just paralell universes, in which destiny is already set in stone, takes away the protagonists ability to control the outcomes, which might be something we philosophize over but which isn't really how we percieve our lives. |
| Another godly episode, can't wait for the FINALE!!!! |
mozgow said: cenjo-san said: If I remember correctly (would have to check the LN to be sure), I still don't fully get what was bad about that contract. After the events of the tea party, one could view Echidna's reasoning as being similar to a scientist. Her getting Subaru to form a contract with her locks her into a position where this becomes one grand experiment where she can reach different conclusions based on the decisions Subaru make. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenSep 23, 2020 2:58 PM
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mozgow said: Victor_XP said: Echidna said what Subaru saw was based on his memories and knowledge. "It's a thoroughly well-constructed unreality." - Echidna. Nothing's been confirmed yet. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. Oh is it possible that u spoil it for me T_T i really wanna know if it's really parallel universe or just imagination >.< |
king_blyss said: uh oh XD VioletCrystal said: Oh is it possible that u spoil it for me T_T i really wanna know if it's really parallel universe or just imagination >.< don't be childish and don't spoil the show, that's a very weak mentality. You'll know when it's revealed and the feeling you'll get will be way better than reading some random comment on a website. We are very lucky to be watching this masterpiece without having spoiled ourselves with the WN/LN so enjoy it. i'm very weak minded in those things lol and because i know it might not covered in the anime it makes me want to know it more lol but yeah i get your point ^^ Thanks for the advise, i'll try to keep that in mind xD |
MegamiRem said: Wait uh so wth he wasn't going back in time but was going in other paralal worlds? This is the type of stuff I absolutely despise in time travel series. Wtf is the point of even going back in time then ffs. Well, if Re:Zero is an Isekai, paralel words are anyway closer to this fantasy than pure time travel. |
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| subaru is so boring gawd... |
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| It's a tea party, yet none of them took a single sip of tea! Jokes aside, it was another very good episode. I wish we could've seen a bit more of the alternate timelines though. Was great to see Rem again. Even though it wasn't her, at least the early bits felt like it. |
SurySep 23, 2020 4:36 PM
| carmilla is so innocent and adorable and i want to coddle her |
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WYM "still"? this elevated her to GOAT status |
| so if I understand the witch of sloth correctly, the implication is that Echidna would EVENTUALLY lead Subaru to the good outcome he wants, even if it's after 1 million tries each time, like Beatrice will EVENTUALLY find that person (Subaru), only it's after 400 years of waiting. So based on the reaction, it seems only Echidna really is hostile to Satella, which makes me wonder the whole story about witch of envy isn't really what people say it is. If Roswaal is an apostle of Echidna, then all the other apostles (Petelgeuse&co) should also side of Echidna, which means the witch that destroyed the world may not have been Satella, but Echidna in the past. Satella was the one who saved the world??? |
NEETxPEACE said: I think the idea is that Echidna is willing sacrifice everything for knowledge, killing anybody needed to experience all that Return by Death can do then she will leave him hanging to his own, like what she did with Beatrice. She's just experimenting.I want to post what I thought about Echidna cos I was really confused at first about how her revelation revealed anything new about her. I thought for a bit and here's the best I have to explain it; for other anime characters that claim they are the greediest in the world so they always aim for the ideal results, greed is like an unlimited energy source that drives them to achieve the best results. For Echidna though, greed is like a black hole so everything she does is aimed to fill that hole (I think this is true for all the witches), the witches are either sociopaths or psychopaths that are out to fulfill their desires. For Echidna, I always thought she was helping Subaru to fill her desire to know everything. I kind of knew this was the case when Subaru told her about his Return from Death and she said 'tell me more about how you felt, everything, because I am the witch of greed'. From a normal person's perspective anyone would have probably thought it was Echidna's way of comforting Subaru, to relieve some of his loneliness by telling her everything. But Echidna actually meant what she said with nothing hidden - she didn't sympathize with Subaru at all she just wanted to know more for the sake of knowing more. I kind of knew her nature before her speech and I was confused on why the anime made it so dramatic; its like seeing that fire can cook raw meat into a delicious meal but being surprised that fire can cause burns... I guess Echidna's nature can be scary when you think she will do anything that satisfies her greed but she could be a great ally if reaching Subaru's goals is what fills her desire. I mean if she wants to learn about everything then she must want to know what it's like to have feelings on a personal level and if she reaches that point she will no longer be a sociopath but a top tier waifu. |
VioletCrystal said: It's exactly as Echidna said - only Satella knows the truth.mozgow said: Echidna said what Subaru saw was based on his memories and knowledge. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. Oh is it possible that u spoil it for me T_T i really wanna know if it's really parallel universe or just imagination >.< |
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| The tea party was really a sight to see. Finally got to see Echidna's intentions, she's still the best girl in my eyes. Wo got to see wahat happend with Subaru in the worlds he died, that was interesting and clarifyed how does his ability work, it's not a time-travel one, it makes him jump inbetween realities. Interested how's this all going to turn out! One episode left to go lads!!! |
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| The witch of lust......just how? lol Looking forward to Satella next week, I have no idea what she will do. |
| As an anime only, this episode is probably one of my favorites this season. I just hope the rest of the Witches' backstories and personalities can be explored more. To add impact to the whole 'Tea Party'. But yeah other than that a very good episode. Can't wait for next episode with Satella. 5/5 |
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| Damn, that was a lot of information, and thanks to it, I'm now slightly less confused now. That second trial was really something man, never really thought about the events that would play out when Subaru would die. Aye we get to see all of the witches now, now this is a tea party. I really like all of the witches' unique designs, surprisingly colorful. But out of all of them, I'd say I like Minerva or Echidna's the most. Echidna's speech was really well done. It shows a lot more of her true personality which I love. Oh damn, Satella's her now. Not gonna lie, kinda diggin' her style. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she turns out to be either related to Emilia or she's some weird future/past Emilia. But regardless I'm hyped for the finale next week! |
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he's right though. What an episode like top 3 waifus all in the same episode, even if Rem was just a fake :( at least Greed and Sloth were realish |
| Rem freaked me out tbh, good thing it was Carmelia. The episode 11 broke me so It was okay to see a plot moving episode. ngl this wasn't that much hype but im looking forward to how next weeks's episode turns out. |
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| Im just waiting for Emilia to do something. |
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| decent episode outside the first parts of that Rem scene was dansgaming hard at it till Subaru realized it wasn't real was like hurrying up and see though this illusion mate! well i finally understand Echidna's motives while it was apparent from the start that she only seeks knowledge being the witch of greed and all but seeing what great length she'll go for it regardless of the sacrifices in order to gain it had me second guessing making a contract with the devil at least Subaru understood that as well (man this kid can act really dumb and really smart at times lol) she'd pretty much be a cheat code if he was willing to take some losses but we all know he wants to save everyone so back to square one again but right at the end the last girl of the harem of wtiches shows up so i bet shit gonna get rowdy one note is the very first preview of S2 is driving me nuts because i feel like were getting close to it if it actually happens still wish i never saw it |
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| Really loved this episode. Btw could someone help me if I should buy the light novels or read the web novels online. Also what is the difference between the LNs and the WNs? Thanks in advanced! |
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swordmaster2551 said: mozgow said: I waited since the season stared for this episode. White Fox did an amazing job, again. I think anime did not show this properly, but Reinhard was able to use his sword Reid against Puck's Beast of the End form. Anime showed it fine, although people forgetting what's so special about the sword is always a possibility. Then again, it's not like Puck isn't worthy to use it. Hey, you there are foreshadowing this sword like hell, right? But fine, it is not a spoiler since Reinhard is the Hero, and Be the Hero and use a Hero Overpower Sword is all he can be. Just as Novel Readets, and Be a Novel Reader spoiling stuff in anime discussion is all Novel Readers can be. Lol |
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swordmaster2551 said: he's right though. What an episode like top 3 waifus all in the same episode, even if Rem was just a fake :( at least Greed and Sloth were realish The waifus war shit is not the reason I like this show. |
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| Great episode. Don't get me wrong but I really like Echidna, easily my 2nd favorite character behind Emilia now. She may not be morally rightful but at the very least her character is consistent and her actions are believable by her own standard. I'd go for as to say that her character is true to her own intentions, she is the Witch of Greed after all. She has a thirst that cannot be satisfied. Correct my if I'm wrong but my understanding is that Echidna's terms to Subaru was that she would use her wealth of knowledge to guide Subaru down the path but she makes no promises on how he would get to the best possible future. This is essentially her version of saying that she would use his return by death ability to experiment with him to find every possibility, every nuance that could happen, learn and understand them to satisfy her own 'greed' to know everything. Echidna's speech was epic and Sakamoto Maaya's delivery was absolutely stunning, that Echidna evil grin at the end of that was so awesome. I'd be lying if I said I didn't share at least a bit of wanting 'know' and understand everything. I don't really buy the parallel world theory, it felt to me like it was just a possibility that Satella showed Subaru that ended up being linked to the trial. To be honest the trial went by pretty fast and wasn't anywhere near as impactful as the first one was. Hype for Satella at the end, next episode looks great. |
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| Think the unthinkable present. Al those what if's were quite the tragedy. Subaru feeling what others would feel after he left that world. Also with all the witches a the table at once, next episode is gonna rumble. |
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This is echidna’s monologue in the novels. 😳 HQ: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinSJJrWAAEnoVk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
TeamDalaiLanaSep 23, 2020 10:57 PM
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| She’s offering her body Subaru, just accept. It’s me, or the voice tormenting Subaru was himself. The episode title made sense in the end; all the witches reunited. I didn’t understand the whole pact thing, Echidna was going to live in his soul or something, cause she was going to experiment everything that Subaru lives from now on, or something like that, and she won’t give him power but information. Satella appeared, excited for the interactions, the season is going to end, and we’re struck in the same place. |
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TeamDalaiLana said: FYI, this is echidna’s monologue in the novels. HQ: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinSJJrWAAEnoVk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Holy mother of the Spin Speech!  |
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