DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Ajunky said: That.... ... ... time... paradog? *facedog* (translation: the episode just broke me) Seriously. I get the impression that all messages aside, these 2 episodes were really just an excuse for a bad conductor style joke. It was fairly interesting, but I think they could have pieced it together better. It was far from endless eight, but they still spent too long on the repetitive establishing scenes instead of the meat of it. The part that really never made sense to me was the Watashis at the tea party. Okay, she was traveling back in time, but they had personalities divorced from hers, never acknowledged they were twins, and appeared to continue on from the point that the current Watashi would travel back. Best guess I have is that her consciousness would travel back while the body continued to exist as a pseudo-Watshi, but they're in that state before she arrives. That leaves either that echoing back through that identity or her arriving later each time. The latter makes some sense but isn't really hinted at. I dunno. If anyone thinks there was a clear explanation to why the paradox Watashis acted so differently then I'd be interested. |
| alright, so clarifications are! Ringo Kid = Grandpa proof: they both like revolvers & the sundial with the fact that the faeires said they sent Watashi too far into the past & have the same eyes Assistant = some recreated divine being influenced in the making by Ringo? proof: hawaiin shirt THOUGH!, what is the assistant then? he was mentioned by grandpa as if he met him before but now Watashi recreates him? Assistant = recreated being by Watashi, a being created previously by Grandpa and that beautiful lady Doctor (?) main question: why was the assisstant recreated in Watashi's wanted image and not in Grandpa's or the lady Doctor's? sub question: did the assistant always exist or did he just start existing due to Watashi in which Grandpa was the catalyst? |
OniikamiAug 19, 2012 1:19 PM
Bio said: One approach to looking at time travel and paradox scenarios is that such "loops" actually form alternate universes, and in such cases the individuals involved do not have to be exactly the same person personality wise, or even have the same background and experiences. Essentially each time travel that causes a paradox spins off another universe with it's only history to resolve the issue. Using this, for instance, I can accept that the multiple Watashi's there were not the same person.I dunno. If anyone thinks there was a clear explanation to why the paradox Watashis acted so differently then I'd be interested. Also, regarding Watashi's inability to recognized that the girls she was looking at were (almost) duplicates of her is probably an effect built into the setup by whatever mechanic the fairies used to transport her around. She was viewing the "world" through a filter imposed on her by the fairies. |
 |
| There is nothing quite as sexy as time travel and paradoxes. This was a great episode for introducing the assistant with some great time-zingers at the end. For some, I’m sure, they didn't enjoy the re-doing of the scenes from last episode but i thought it was a great segue way to how messed up the Fairies are(which really just took a backseat, like the usually do this episode.) So first off, When Ms. Sweets is running through the time-loops she keeps meeting herself and it turns out the entire time assistant had been around the corner overhearing what other shad to say about him. whether that means that she and him actually met somewhere in the forest before she was sent back to redo the time loop is unclear. The best thing of the whole show was when right after she ate a banana she was sent "too far back." I was wondering why she woke up in a field last episode and it seems that she was sent back to when her grandfather was around 13 years old. Apparently he's a sexual deviant and he's wandering around town like a little crazy(smart?) kid. Ms. Sweets who thinks this is her assistant begins to head back to the lab with him and all of his "procreating" tales were hilarious. The fact that she figured out that that was her grandfather, even subconsciously was weird, but nonetheless made it funny. Kinda creepy that he was feeling up his granddaughter but when time travel is involved i guess you have to be kind of forgiving. I was shocked to see assistant talk, even if it was time paradogs, but now i know my guess was right, that it was just a side effect of the time travel. I don't get why they labeled her time trips in such small numbers, i guess they didn't care i was hoping for a more approximate number of how many trips the fairies did send her on, but that’s me just nit picking. Another fantastic episode and i can not wait to see what happens next week! |
| I sometimes watch lots of anime. I sometimes write reviews of said anime at my website. http://www.crawken.com/ |
| Mind = blown. Waw. |
 |
| Well, all I can say is that Grandpa copped a feel on Watashi as a young boy it seems...wow, that sounds sooo wrong. |
 |
| So basically... I just watched incest? |
| Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita - Trolling all otakus since 2 July 2012. |
 |
TravSavage said: So basically... I just watched incest? Nope. |
|
| bootstrap and grandfather paradox i saw this ep cuz watashi would've killed her own grandfather lol (probably didnt through her subconsciousness telling her not to) dat ringo kid |
 True or False Anime + Manga = Chuck Norris / Chuck Norris |
| Felt like I was watching (a shorter version of) Endless Eight all over again. Didn't need to see the first half of the episode as it was all redundant from the previous ep. Kids like that Doc/Rngo kid make me want to see them physically castrated with a rusty knife and not a single !@#$ would be given if kids like him were to be gutted like a fish after being sodomized by deprived male inmates and beheaded when they are done, then have the severed head stuck on a pole for the whole town to see like in the Game of Thrones. If at least one of these things happened, this show would warrant a 10/10 for me...but it's too bad it won't since he'll live a long life apparently. Also, with all those Watashi look-alikes, for some reason they were all wearing a different outfit than she herself was wearing, and only some of them had watches...makes me think one of them might have been future grandma who happened to look like her when she was young...I could be wrong though. |
Estoy_GordoAug 19, 2012 5:22 PM
4kicks said: Interesting you think that, since I thought that there was much new information provided.Felt like I was watching (a shorter version of) Endless Eight all over again. Didn't need to see the first half of the episode as it was all redundant from the previous ep. |
|
Cratex said: 4kicks said: Interesting you think that, since I thought that there was much new information provided.Felt like I was watching (a shorter version of) Endless Eight all over again. Didn't need to see the first half of the episode as it was all redundant from the previous ep. So did Endless Eight...with each reiteration, it changed slightly with some new tidbits of info was added, while some others left out (or shortened). In the end, it was just rehashed for the sake of them trying to make a point of the time-loop. |
| If I understood this episode correctly, the fairies created Assistant out of Watashi's imagination in exchange for cloning her (via time loops) to make sweets. Does that mean the fairies implanted false memories into Grandpa and the Doctor to push Watashi towards creating an imaginary Assistant? Or was Assistant always an actual person and I am wrong? |
| Repetitive but not boring, because of watashi narrative self-talk. Good episode Shabetta!! |
4kicks said: If you say so.So did Endless Eight...with each reiteration, it changed slightly with some new tidbits of info was added, while some others left out (or shortened). In the end, it was just rehashed for the sake of them trying to make a point of the time-loop. |
|
TravSavage said: So basically... I just watched incest? |
 |
| The little prince says "What's most important is invisible" and Magritte says "Visible things always hide other visible things". You may be able to find something beyond visible things if you roam about the trees. |
| Assistant coming from a community of people who don't speak...The source of this anime is really amazing! Actually, a community of non-speakers did exist. Martha's Vineyard had almost all of its villagers use sign language during the 18th century to 1950s. This is not to say Assistant can't hear though. He does hear very well as we've known throughout many episode, and he can talk. ^^ LOL at time paradogs! I love Assistant's voice! We finally heard him speak!! And Watashi's comments are as brilliant as ever: I came, I saw, I slipped. She always make me LOL. XD |
witchhuntressAug 19, 2012 8:25 PM
 "Belief is the death of intelligence." ~Robert Anton Wilson~ |
| The assistant spoke!! :D |
 |
| Oh my god. They explained what happened on every repeat. This Doc guy sound so much like Ash Ketchum (Japanese seiyuu). Grandpa is the one that had the sundial wristwatch right? He got it from a woman. And that woman is Watashi herself!!!! Grandpa is Doc! Doc is Grandpa! This is a freakin time paradox!!! The cycle keeps on repeating. It ended until the assistant materialize. I LOL when the Assistant spoke. Watashi: What dog is that? Assistant: A time paradog. Watashi: He spoke! Can't stop laughing from a time paradog! Ahahaahahaha. |
FijiAug 19, 2012 9:09 PM
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| So, in the end they really were time paradogs, lol! With all these come and go, the characters were like NPCs, always talking the same stuff. Very touching episode, I'm starting to give credit to this anime team for scrambling the episode orders. But now it will be dificult to have an arc better than this. |
| best episode so far. Also, the "wild assistant" is the professor when he was a kid. |
  |
| Assistant is like Mana from Malice Mizer, you'll rarely have the opportunity to listen to his voice lol |
SakuraRainbow said: Assistant. Spoke. Who's his voice actor!? Does it say in the credits? Jun Fukuyama, and it did say in the credit. I had to double check the raw to prevent from mistaken from another FukuJun (Jun Fukushima). |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Haha epic kid granpa... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Tyrel said: Fixed ;DTravSavage said: So basically... I just watched wincest? This ep was how Enless Eight should have been; two ( Or 3? ) eps and a total mindfuck at the end.. With eight eps it just dragged on and lost its 'wow' factor and the big reveal at the end. But that's going off-topic. All in all a great ep. Was a bit confused until I read some explanations here :P |
 |
Fiji said: Grandpa is the one that had the sundial wristwatch right? He got it from a woman. And that woman is Watashi herself!!!! Grandpa is Doc! Doc is Grandpa! This is a freakin time paradox!!! The cycle keeps on repeating. It ended until the assistant materialize. I didn't realize that Ringo was Grandpa in his early teens. I haven't been carefully paying attention, dangnammit! This time paradox arc was really clever. My mind is blown... |
| Episode 8, aired in August, about time loops, and there really were 88 clones in the first episode of the arc. References, references... ^^ Also, Doctor was disappeared. And in episode 7, a woman transformed into a dog. Also, Doctor and dogs has the same eyes... So, this "Doctor" is the paradox fixer. "Time paradog" |
 |
| Lololol at young Grandpa er I mean Ringo Kid X D. He had the hots for his granddaughter though when you think about it so yeah heh This episode I had to watch a couple of times to piece everything together because of how subtle the plot/hints are. How bout anyone else watching this series? Do you guys need to rewatch parts to catch on things you may have missed? |
| Awesome Time Paradogs arc this one was. |
 |
| Lame episode. review with added parts. |
| Weird describes this show perfectly, I didn't get that Ringo Kid was the grandpa and the assistant (or his personality at least) was basically created by Watashi, I just didn't like how they showed us the time loops again. |
| Anyone notice this? Ringo Kid = Apple Kid = Sinful Kid? Apple represent fruit of sin, and also knowledge. Despite the abuse that Watashi suffered from the boy, partly she liked it, so that after he was gone and she was reminding him she felt attracted by his body. She ended up wishing that Assistant had a body like his, because she found it exciting. She just did not like the personality and so desired a contrary personality. This story was like a fairy tale. Really beautiful, she wished someone who would like to love, and also wanted be someone who could love him for feeling sorry for history of his life. |
|
| my mind is full of what..... again. lololol time paradog |
 |
| By the way, there was no explanation for the football scene in the first part of the arc. It also might be a spice mixed by the producers, here is a story about "Dane's head". There are strong relationship between fairy tales and atrocity. |
| First before I present the whole confusion in a understandable manner to the many simple minded fellows who plain hate such confusion as this episode marks out. The following notes: First time: 12:30pm/2 pm at plaza/3 pm forest Second time: 1 pm plaza/1:30 pm road Third Time: 2 pm plaza/2:30 pm Forest Fourth Time: 1:40 pm Road/2 pm Plaza/2:30 pm Forest/ Fifth Time: 2:30 pm/3 pm forest/ Sixth Time: 1:40 pm road/2 pm plaza Of all the 6 times those damn fairies again due to self egoistical perceptions of perfecting the taste of the banana as if the last time it was not enough. The only excuse this time around was a bug was in the banana? Time bug? A mistake but that is not admitted by the Fairies? Perhaps it was just a excuse for them to pry upon Watashi’s most inner desires? Indeed I think it’s both to reveal the assistant himself and of his hometown along with his past. Now continuing on the notions of the shot in the following notes: Country isolated 100 years from world Hercules Ares Doc Holiday Ringo Kid We can have a scope of what the kid’s names himself as and why at first it was Doc Holiday and then the apple kid. Moreover the terms the grandfather uses are interesting themselves. So let’s start to unconfuse people. Bear in mind that those are IMO and that my knowledge perhaps may not be the delicious spoon soup of taste but in general my IMOs are quite good when I decide to pull out my brains instead of laying it to waste on some anime shows. About the grandfather’s Greek?Roman mythological references, there are a few notions to take heed before that happens. First of all the spoiler The second immediate detail is the following spoiler Now going back to the mythological reference the first one being of Hercules in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules From the looks of the grandfather he was saying it most likely because he wants a assistant in looks to protect his daughter while most likely thinking he would give her good kids that would be strong to support the future of humankind. The second reference in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares Now that is said mostly due to the grandfather wanting someone who can give out good protection with knowledge of war itself. In other words ti was just inferred as type of protective means but in a more refined manner than all brutal liker Hercules was. So that’s more or less cleared and the grandfather was also smiling in the spoiler About the Doctor, she can be considered as the teacher that Ringo Kid had sex with. That are 2 signs of this. The first one in the spoiler The second sign is in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procreate Which really is having sex to make kids and family. So it’s obvious that to think that woman might be the one he had sex with logical. Moreover if one thinks about it from the following spoiler About Watashi’s little adventure, well Watashi in the spoiler About the abuse of the clones, it comes back in the spoiler The second time of that cloning in the spoiler The third time, happens to be the vital one in finally explaining that the clones were more a recollection each of Watashi’s feelings partitioned like a hard rive into bits each one responding accordingly. Think of it that way and of course it could have been a back plan of the fairies to find out how to make sweets. From the spoiler  Of Watashi’s blush and more precisely her face in the spoiler About the assistant, another confusing part. It has multi elements that each should be addressed separately which I will do now. The first thing to remark is the time shift was much more into the past than any other before. That being said the first thing of the town in the spoiler 2 things can be deducted from this particular segment. First of all the dog petting in the spoiler A final interesting thing of him would be that he is rather agile and full of energy in the spoiler About Time Paradox and Watashi’s love wishes. Now that is quite apparent to take one step at a time. The first thing to notice is the Ringo Kid’s playful spinning around in the spoiler So what follows next is THE KEY point! Quite simply the taking of the apple in the spoiler  Was quite nice IMO. It showed a nice side that Watashi wants a assistant being bold as she mentions it during the last time she is with the clones goes back to the Third Time and what was mentioned. It goes back to it being sinful in terms of engaging publicly into sexual innuendos. The author most likely refers to Whore Houses and that the decline of humanity is due to people not marrying and having stable families but the males going from one partner to another as below it implies. The author may go as far as even outlining that kisses should be done within one's privacy. The last part might show another side as to why Watashi might not want love or plain simply the decline of Humanity itself. At first the gift giving in the spoiler Consider also that assistant was ALL A FIGMENT OF WATASHI’S MIND! Indeed it damn right is! It’s not the real one! It’s a ideal one and does what Watashi’s own mind thinks about males and wants in love from them. The dog’s eyes in the spoiler About the final meeting with the assistant, there are 2 things to take into account from this segment. The first one is the real assistant’s form but also the Sakura petals in the spoiler The last one is the handshake in the spoiler So in conclusion I hope this explains and gives some views to people of what to think of this episode exactly along with my notes. BTW GIFs have been done in the Club: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=480149 Basically Watashi’s kissing. Image Stitches and Pic Dump done in the BLOG: http://ecchiking99.blogspot.ca/2012/08/image-stitches-and-pic-dump-of-jinrui_20.html Some of Watashi and some of scenery. |
| My favorite episode. Just.. wow. Amazing. |
 |
| This arc was a pretty funny take on procrastination in my opinion. Add our modern habit of procrastinating and a little bit of fairy factor fantasy and we get one hilarious slip up of an adventure. Also some pretty genius writing involving the bootstrap paradox and we almost had a reverse grandmother paradox here. Seriously though, if Watashi became her own grandmother my mind would've just been blown right there... Also a bit of discussion on the themes of this episode from me here. Procrastinate more! |
| OK now that I read the comments on this forum it all makes sense. I was confused as fuck until someone very kindly posted a link to the bootstrap paradox. Now I understand how the grandpa got the sundial watch in the first place. This series just gets better and better. I love it! |
Golden_DarknezzAug 20, 2012 11:27 PM
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
| well, that was boring. the first 10 minutes were just llike a recap |
| So she loves her Assistant in a way...right? |
 |
| He spoke btw. |
| |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita Episode 5 Discussion ( 1 2 )ihateeveryone - Jul 29, 2012 |
76 |
by Safrichh
»»
May 18, 8:51 PM |
|
Poll: » Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 )tsubasalover - Sep 2, 2012 |
92 |
by VitorZ7
»»
May 5, 9:57 PM |
|
Poll: » Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )tsubasalover - Aug 26, 2012 |
119 |
by ManuelFragment
»»
Apr 23, 8:23 PM |
|
Poll: » Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )prismheart - Jul 22, 2012 |
124 |
by Safrichh
»»
Mar 2, 7:54 PM |
|
Poll: » Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita Episode 7 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )prismheart - Aug 12, 2012 |
132 |
by kirA_-_
»»
Mar 1, 4:04 PM |