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Oct 20, 2013 10:55 AM

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gamer2710 said:
hyperknees91 said:
You may notice a discrepancy between this post and a previous post in another thread. After thinking about it, Michiru's route seemed the least plausible and the least believable. There was almost nothing about Yuji's past compared to the other routes, and Michiru's past had the least impact on me. Almost everything in her route, barring any gratuitous comedy routines, felt forced,




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http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=640155&show=80#msg24382379

The problem is still the same even if I change download location. Unless someone can help me with this I won't bother trying anymore.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
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NeoAnkara said:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=640155&show=80#msg24382379

The problem is still the same even if I change download location. Unless someone can help me with this I won't bother trying anymore.
I can't really help you here because I can't reproduce the problem. You could try tweaking your graphics settings through the game.

Does this happen all the time, or does it only happen when there's a special effect, like a screen shake or image movement?
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gamer2710 said:
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http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=640155&show=80#msg24382379

The problem is still the same even if I change download location. Unless someone can help me with this I won't bother trying anymore.
I can't really help you here because I can't reproduce the problem. You could try tweaking your graphics settings through the game.

Does this happen all the time, or does it only happen when there's a special effect, like a screen shake or image movement?
This happen all the time. Aparently google didn't even help this time.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
Nov 6, 2013 2:15 PM

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Wow this is to be animated?
Amanes route made me cry
yes I am a pussy
they better end it with a full ending to the end though
no after the final fight shit, I wanna see grandpa yuugi hand the pube filled teddy bear to his grandchild and to see amane sink her last breathe into the bus stops air to be reunited with her punishment!

ughh pls more.
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ybnrmalatall said:
Wow this is to be animated?
Amanes route made me cry
yes I am a pussy
they better end it with a full ending to the end though
no after the final fight shit, I wanna see grandpa yuugi hand the pube filled teddy bear to his grandchild and to see amane sink her last breathe into the bus stops air to be reunited with her punishment!

ughh pls more.


>pussy cuz cried at Amane route

What?
Nov 6, 2013 5:55 PM

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Hidden_Joker said:
ybnrmalatall said:
Wow this is to be animated?
Amanes route made me cry
yes I am a pussy
they better end it with a full ending to the end though
no after the final fight shit, I wanna see grandpa yuugi hand the pube filled teddy bear to his grandchild and to see amane sink her last breathe into the bus stops air to be reunited with her punishment!

ughh pls more.



>pussy cuz cried at Amane route

What?


Well I have seen more tear jerking in a lot of animes and vn's but this one got to me and it didn't seem like it should have coming from a 3rd person point of view after it was all over
but I guess the time spent in all the dialogue made me feel towards the two in a special way, I mean there is a lot of pointless but funny dialogue that if you spend the time reading really puts you there... so I guess I could take back my pussy statement in regards to others in my position.
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Nov 6, 2013 6:16 PM

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Yeah, I know. You are supposed to cry at Amane's route. lol
Nov 6, 2013 10:30 PM

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Hidden_Joker said:
Yeah, I know. You are supposed to cry at Amane's route. lol

hmm
I dont usually know when to cry in certain things since I usually bottle everything up
hence why the bad judge of if I should or not... :P
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Nov 7, 2013 12:26 AM
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ybnrmalatall said:
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Yeah, I know. You are supposed to cry at Amane's route. lol

hmm
I dont usually know when to cry in certain things since I usually bottle everything up
hence why the bad judge of if I should or not... :P
there is no right or wrong, you just do or don't
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HaXXspetten said:
ybnrmalatall said:
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Yeah, I know. You are supposed to cry at Amane's route. lol

hmm
I dont usually know when to cry in certain things since I usually bottle everything up
hence why the bad judge of if I should or not... :P
there is no right or wrong, you just do or don't

lol, well clearly, but people doubt themselves easily and I do very much.. :P
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Also, Amane's route was so good especially the flashback *.*
Nov 16, 2013 11:39 PM

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I've played Michiru's, Sachi's, and just finished Makina's route (my favorite one so far). My god, that bad end route.
Anyhow both of the endings were kind of depressing, didn't have the same happy closure like the last two routes. Doesn't matter, I'll take any kind of closure that doesn't have a plastic bag.
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Nov 16, 2013 11:44 PM

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I'm surprised people like Makina's route so much. What am I missing out on here? Was it just because it had a lot of action?

Now Amane I can understand as her route was absolutely superb.
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hyperknees91 said:
I'm surprised people like Makina's route so much. What am I missing out on here? Was it just because it had a lot of action?

Now Amane I can understand as her route was absolutely superb.


I said "so far," can't rate Amane's route without playing it. In fact, I'm saving that for last, since I've been hearing such good things about it.
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I thought Makina's route was by far the best if you look at pure entertainment-value, although Amane's was obviously the best story-wise etc. Depends on what you prioritize I guess.
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So, the sequels don't follow any of the routes? But essentially follows a different route which features Yuuji solving all of the girls' problems in a similar fashion without entering the romance zone?

A selfish request of mine, but could anyone spoil me of all the girls' endings. I have Grisaia on my computer, wanted to finish it and see all them endings. But real-life stuffs keep getting in the way. Also, if anyone had played the sequels, could you give me some details about them? It'd be even better if you'd spoil me the endings to the sequels too :P. I'd really appreciate it! Thanks in advance.
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IronLobster said:
hyperknees91 said:
I'm surprised people like Makina's route so much. What am I missing out on here? Was it just because it had a lot of action?

Now Amane I can understand as her route was absolutely superb.


I said "so far," can't rate Amane's route without playing it. In fact, I'm saving that for last, since I've been hearing such good things about it.


Well I'm not asking whether or not you like it the best really. Just why anyone thinks it's a good route at all. I thought it was pretty terrible personally and it's the only route I felt like that. The only thing I can think of is that it had more action than the other routes.
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So, the sequels don't follow any of the routes? But essentially follows a different route which features Yuuji solving all of the girls' problems in a similar fashion without entering the romance zone?

A selfish request of mine, but could anyone spoil me of all the girls' endings. I have Grisaia on my computer, wanted to finish it and see all them endings. But real-life stuffs keep getting in the way. Also, if anyone had played the sequels, could you give me some details about them? It'd be even better if you'd spoil me the endings to the sequels too :P. I'd really appreciate it! Thanks in advance.


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No point in really spoiling the endings in Grisaia honestly but ok.

Amane


Sachi


Michiru


Yumiko


Makina


Yeah outside of Sachi and Yumiko, the endings aren't great.
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Even though I haven't finished all storylines yet, I can't imagine a better one than Sachi's. This really left me heartbroken.



Did Michiru's story second. I never expected to like her, but in the end I really realised how sweet she actually is behind her act.

Now doing Yumiko's story. i'm not really getting into the story just yet. I've also got the feeling I got the best of the story done already. But we'll see how it turns out.

Makina will be next, and I'll save Amane for last. I keep hearing her story is heartbreaking, so who knows.. :D
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hyperknees91 said:
Xinception said:
So, the sequels don't follow any of the routes? But essentially follows a different route which features Yuuji solving all of the girls' problems in a similar fashion without entering the romance zone?

A selfish request of mine, but could anyone spoil me of all the girls' endings. I have Grisaia on my computer, wanted to finish it and see all them endings. But real-life stuffs keep getting in the way. Also, if anyone had played the sequels, could you give me some details about them? It'd be even better if you'd spoil me the endings to the sequels too :P. I'd really appreciate it! Thanks in advance.


No



No point in really spoiling the endings in Grisaia honestly but ok.

Amane


Sachi


Michiru


Yumiko


Makina


Yeah outside of Sachi and Yumiko, the endings aren't great.
Can I ask you a question about the third game?



Thanks in advance.
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Thanks in advance.


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I'm just about done with this VN, finished Michiru, Sachi, Yumiko, and Amane's routes. Now onto Makina's. Also I cried quite a bit on Michiru's, Sachi's, and Amane's. A shame that Yumiko's wasn't AS powerful as I hoped it'd be, but I still smiled like an idiot at her good end. Man Yuuji's an awesome protagonist since Takeru from MuvLuv Alternative.
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Just finished Amane's route and it was very enjoyable. It was a toss up between her and Yumiko but I wandered into Amane's route by default. Kazuki was an unexpected hit so it's a shame there's no wincest.

It's probably just me but the other heroines didn't appeal to me during the common route:

- Makina was interesting but too childish to take as a romantic interest seriously.
- Sachi's pretty much the perfect girl you friendzone so no interest in her.
- Michiru was unique and original but I found her purely for comedic entertainment.

Maybe someone can provide me with a non spoiler reason as to why I should pursue their routes?

Also, what route does Yuuji's teacher/master appear in? Thanks for the help.
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Just finished Amane's route and it was very enjoyable. It was a toss up between her and Yumiko but I wandered into Amane's route by default. Kazuki was an unexpected hit so it's a shame there's no wincest.

It's probably just me but the other heroines didn't appeal to me during the common route:

- Makina was interesting but too childish to take as a romantic interest seriously.
- Sachi's pretty much the perfect girl you friendzone so no interest in her.
- Michiru was unique and original but I found her purely for comedic entertainment.

Maybe someone can provide me with a non spoiler reason as to why I should pursue their routes?

Also, what route does Yuuji's teacher/master appear in? Thanks for the help.


You should play Sachi's route for the same reason you play Amane's route. Not so much for the romance, but for a good flashback and the best ending in the game.

The romance doesn't get better than Yumiko's so yeah.

Makina isn't a real romantic interest, they barely try to make it believable. It's more just a brother sister relationship. Personally I didn't like her route but a lot of people did because of how much goes on in her route. Just prepare for an extremelyyyyy slow beginning if you play hers. You get to learn slightly more about Yuuji as well in this route. It's a lot like Yumiko's route but with more action and less character development.

Michiru's route is odd. Play it if you want to play an odd route. She's got some weird psychological problems.

But yes all 3 are poor for romance if that's what your looking forward to. I would still play Sachi's if anything.

Yuuji's master appears in 0 routes. She's in the sequel which covers Yuuji's past. Yeah it's pretty lame.
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hyperknees91 said:


You should play Sachi's route for the same reason you play Amane's route. Not so much for the romance, but for a good flashback and the best ending in the game.

The romance doesn't get better than Yumiko's so yeah.

Makina isn't a real romantic interest, they barely try to make it believable. It's more just a brother sister relationship. Personally I didn't like her route but a lot of people did because of how much goes on in her route. Just prepare for an extremelyyyyy slow beginning if you play hers. You get to learn slightly more about Yuuji as well in this route. It's a lot like Yumiko's route but with more action and less character development.

Michiru's route is odd. Play it if you want to play an odd route. She's got some weird psychological problems.

But yes all 3 are poor for romance if that's what your looking forward to. I would still play Sachi's if anything.

Yuuji's master appears in 0 routes. She's in the sequel which covers Yuuji's past. Yeah it's pretty lame.


Thanks for the reply.

I'm looking forward to Yumiko's route, but atm I'm still riding the highs of Amane's route. I'm biased towards the Oneesan trope but didn't like her perverted, slutty nature. I did genuinely come to love her after her route though.

I'll check out Sachi's then Makina's route after your recommendation. I have a habit of living through the MC so I generally ONLY follow routes with heroines I'm physically/romantically attracted to.

How would you rate the sequels in comparison? No JB or Kazuki route makes me sad.
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Yeah Amane's route was my favorite. The beginning was incredibly slow and lame was my only problem with it.

Yumiko's route technically has the strongest writing, as it's the best paced and Yumiko undergoes the most character development (as well as the best romance). Some people found her problem too...normal I guess? Which I think is a rather silly complaint but yeah just thought I'd let you know.

Kazuki's route is technically Amane's route as it's just as much about her. Much like Makina's route is more of Yuuji's route because it's more about him than Makina.

Meikyuu is typical Kajitsu quality. It really should have just been in Kajitsu.

Rakuen is dumb, it's just an over the top hollywood movie. It's fun I guess but a disappointing way to end the series. The weakest point of Grisaia is unfortunately the plot haha. The people who liked Makina's route probably will like it more than I did though (plot holes galore as you could say).
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I believe that was


I dunno. I just heard it somewhere from Meikyuu and Rakuen boards on VNDB since I believe your question was revealed on the sequels. And yes, I "slightly" spoiled myself.


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BTW, which VA do you really think it'll suit for Yuuji? I couldn't think of any but Nakamura Yuuichi or Miyano Mamoru. Honestly, I prefer the former more.


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So far in this game, Amane = best gurl for me
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Daisuke Ono is kinda who I thought of to play Yuuji for whatever reason. For lawls it could be Seki Tomokazu just to parody how many similarities he has with Sagara Sousuke.
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I think Eguchi, Takuya (Oregairu MC) would be good as VA for him, all this trolling and monologues -_-
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Would be cool to see Midorikawa Hikaru, who voice Xing Ke (Code Geass), Kyousuke (Little Busters), and most notably Heero Yuy from Gundam Wing. Quite a suitable voice actor for stoic protagonist.
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Yeah Amane's route was my favorite. The beginning was incredibly slow and lame was my only problem with it.

Yumiko's route technically has the strongest writing, as it's the best paced and Yumiko undergoes the most character development (as well as the best romance). Some people found her problem too...normal I guess? Which I think is a rather silly complaint but yeah just thought I'd let you know.

Kazuki's route is technically Amane's route as it's just as much about her. Much like Makina's route is more of Yuuji's route because it's more about him than Makina.

Meikyuu is typical Kajitsu quality. It really should have just been in Kajitsu.

Rakuen is dumb, it's just an over the top hollywood movie. It's fun I guess but a disappointing way to end the series. The weakest point of Grisaia is unfortunately the plot haha. The people who liked Makina's route probably will like it more than I did though (plot holes galore as you could say).


Finally finished Yumiko's route as the holidays came, and sidetracked when my sister recommended G-Senjou Maou (Haru <3).

While I found myself smiling at her route, I'd have to disagree with you on your thoughts on Yumiko's route though. I found myself comparing her route with Amane's, and it just felt underwhelming to me in comparison. I agree that the vanilla romance in Yumiko's compared to Amane was overall better, but I believe that by the end of Amane's route, what they went through made her bond with Yuuji superior in comparison.

Maybe if Yuuji didn't immediately forgive Amane for lying about her feelings towards him, and they broke up for awhile, the ensuing drama regarding this would have made for a better romance story.

I'll check out Makina's route next since you said it's mostly Yuuji's backstory, and there's no forced MakinaxYuuji pairing. Michiru's event flag on my way to Yumiko's route made her back story a little intriguing. My impression of her went up since her normal personality is comedic but in no way romantic.

Which game does Kazuki have a route in?
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So far in this game, Amane = best gurl for me

Don't bother playing anymore, because you're right.

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In all seriousness, I spoiled myself a little for the two sequels. Can't say I'm impressed. They should have at least just put the first sequel in the original game as unlockable content that can be accessed after finishing all 5 routes. The second sequel might have warranted its own game, I guess.
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Finally finished Yumiko's route as the holidays came, and sidetracked when my sister recommended G-Senjou Maou (Haru <3).

While I found myself smiling at her route, I'd have to disagree with you on your thoughts on Yumiko's route though. I found myself comparing her route with Amane's, and it just felt underwhelming to me in comparison. I agree that the vanilla romance in Yumiko's compared to Amane was overall better, but I believe that by the end of Amane's route, what they went through made her bond with Yuuji superior in comparison.

Maybe if Yuuji didn't immediately forgive Amane for lying about her feelings towards him, and they broke up for awhile, the ensuing drama regarding this would have made for a better romance story.

I'll check out Makina's route next since you said it's mostly Yuuji's backstory, and there's no forced MakinaxYuuji pairing. Michiru's event flag on my way to Yumiko's route made her back story a little intriguing. My impression of her went up since her normal personality is comedic but in no way romantic.

Which game does Kazuki have a route in?


Don't get me wrong. Amane's route is the best route in the game so every route is a little underwhelming compared to it. Though this mostly has to do with heavens howl.

The problem I have with Amane's route though is that the beginning is way too slow with nothing substantial in it (much like Makina's route beginning but not as bad).

The other problem is the fact is that they didn't spend any time on the two when Amane had finally broken out of her "mask". So unfortunately while their bond may have seemed sweet at the end, it didn't really feel substantial like the bond she had developed with Kazuki during heavens howl (Amane and Kazuki easily have the best relationship in the game). So I couldn't help but feel like their romance was completely lackluster unfortunately. It didn't necessarily need a ton of drama. Just...they spent the entire romance on lackluster scenes and the "fake" Amane.

The reason I say Yumiko has a better romance is because the mask breaks off early, and the rest is all natural and consistently developed. She's also the girl with the most chemistry with him, so their relationship feels the most natural as well.

Though don't get me wrong. To me this whole route was just an excuse to get readers interested in reading heavens howl and the romance is just an afterthought. The immersion and tension that route gives you is top notch and I wouldn't change a thing about it. It's truly amazing how good that part of the game is and it's one of the best parts of any heroine route in any visual novel ever.

Kazuki's route is Amane's route in this game. Much like Makina's route is more Yuuji's route than it is her own route (then Yuuji gets his real route in the sequel). Other than that she gets no route of her own (though Rakuen I guess you could consider it sorta, but that's more for all the girls).

I do recommend playing Michiru's route. It does require you to suspend your disbelief the most (though the route doesn't take itself as seriously as the other routes do either). But overall it was a very enjoyable route with some really great moments if you ask me. And really I felt the same as you with every route afterwards. I really wish I didn't play Amane's first and saved it for last because of this haha.
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Manderton said:
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I do recommend playing Michiru's route. It does require you to suspend your disbelief the most (though the route doesn't take itself as seriously as the other routes do either). But overall it was a very enjoyable route with some really great moments if you ask me. And really I felt the same as you with every route afterwards. I really wish I didn't play Amane's first and saved it for last because of this haha.

Did you just recommend skipping best girl's route? What is wrong with you?


No I recommended her haha. I would never tell anyone to skip Michiru unless they weren't capable of suspending their disbelief.
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Currently on my first play through of this game and Yumiko peaked my interest straight away so i'm kind of gunning for her route.

However something just happened that pissed me off quite a lot...



*sigh*

Anyway, rant over. But come on Frontwing that was a really bad move! REALLY BAD MOVE!
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^ first time I've heard that complaint lol
also... well just keep playing until the end, all I'm gonna say
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^ first time I've heard that complaint lol
also... well just keep playing until the end, all I'm gonna say


Surely you can understand where I'm coming from though?

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Yeah unfortunately they do that with all the girls. It's something I expect from a nukige or even an ecchi based visual novel but it's annoying to have in less ecchi ones.

Like you said it takes away some of the..."taste" of the sex scenes haha. I feel you man, and I really hate when VN's do that myself. They should somewhat tease, but not reveal until the necessary point if you get my drift =p
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^ first time I've heard that complaint lol
also... well just keep playing until the end, all I'm gonna say


Surely you can understand where I'm coming from though?

It seems natural to me. Two people who love each other in a small room for months, only seeing the other one all day. They were bound to get horny at some time. (We're talking about the first Yumiko sex scene right?)
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Recently finish Yumiko's route. Honestly, I thought I wasn't gonna like her as much consider what people said about her, but she easily became one of my favorites.
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Recently finish Yumiko's route. Honestly, I thought I wasn't gonna like her as much consider what people said about her, but she easily became one of my favorites.
I know right, she's the best girl by far. Sexy as hell.
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For those who didn't know:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=567751&show=140

The Grisaia news thread suddenly got locked, even most the recent posts got deleted as well with no particular reason.

Does anyone know why is that?


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For those who didn't know:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=567751&show=140

The Grisaia news thread suddenly got locked, even most the recent posts got deleted as well with no particular reaso
Does anyone know why is that?
Hopefully it means there has been more news and they're locking that thread to start a new one. If it's not that, then I don't know.
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Really? Because it's really very damn rare to see a certain series' news thread that gets locked and the most likely reason behind why they get locked is the troll posts.


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Really? Because it's really very damn rare to see a certain series' news thread that gets locked and the most likely reason behind why they get locked is the troll posts.
I was just presenting the best case scenario. What probably happened was too many troll posts or arguments, but I didn't see any, and I check that thread every day.
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May 13, 11:34 PM

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removed-user - Nov 9, 2014

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Poll: » Grisaia no Kajitsu Episode 5 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Nov 2, 2014

323 by patkarunungan »»
May 4, 5:23 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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