Ore dake Level Up na Ken Episode 7 Discussion

@rotflolmaomgeez

Is not a lifetime offer. His thinking is right. If he gets to S rank, 30 billion will be pocket change. What game out there has a level cap at level 30? There is nothing in the system to make him believe there could be a cap, and if there was, it would be more logical to be at level 99 or 100. Moreover, he refuses because he is a stranger, and he doesn't trust him yet, especially after what happened in the dungeon. The offer he got from those hunters was pretty good too, and look how it ended.



He doesn't enter the dungeon to beat it, he enters to test it and learn how much stronger he needs to be to beat it. He had a teleportation stone too, to escape the dungeon if he got in danger.


Who told you that the Cerberus was ranked S? The dungeon is ranked S. That doesn't mean that all the monsters in it are ranked S, it just means that the boss is, and not even that is guaranteed.

@MickeyMinaj

Is not his character design that changes, is Ji Woo itself - he got taller, put on muscles, and got more handsome as he leveled up.

@Leongolleyn

The buffs aren't necessarily random, is the way they appear that is bad design. The story enstablishes a skill, or buff once, and then the story expects you to remember that forever. It was the same with the webcomic. I marathoned the whole damn thing in 2 days, and I still had trouble keeping up with everything, I can't even imagine how it was for those who read it on a weekly basis for 4-5 years. For example, Ji Woo has a 40% boost against beast-type monsters from the time he defeated the wolves in that other dungeon in episode 3, which is why even thou this Cerberus is a lot stronger than the Spider, that buff reduces its strength close to half. But if you don't pay attention and forget those buffs, they seem as if they are pulled out of the ass XD But because of the RPG-like elements, is hard to keep the viewer aware of all those buffs and skills, without dumping on them exposure constantly.


@felixsifuri

He didn't struggle against a 'mediocre' boss. Even the B-rank hunter said that he couldn't take that boss alone. And no he didn't go in the dungeon unprepared. What you forget is that, while Ji Woo sees the ranks of beasts and dungeons, he doesn't really have a clear picture of what rank he is, nor can he equate his level to a rank. The only way he can know how strong he is, is by testing his power. When he beat the spider, he leveled up 3-4 levels. He then killed with ease a group of C-rank and D-rank hunters and killed with no effort a B-rank hunter. He could equivalate from that, that he is at least an upper B-rank or even an A-rank. But by killing the hunters he leveled up again. He didn't enter the dungeon to conquer it, he entered to test it. He got a teleportation stone on him, to teleport outside the dungeon if it gets dangerous. He is only forced to fight to kill the Cerberus only because he lost the teleportation sone when he was about to teleport. And yeah, the Cerberus is stronger than the spider, but he got a 40% buff against beast-type monsters, from when he conquered the dungeon with wolves in episode 3, so the power of the Cerberus is reduced by 40% - is not that bad. But still, he was just planning to test its power.





The eye is a vital point, as it's close to the brain. He inflicts a 10% poison damage with every hit too. Plus, he has the player system, each of his hits inflicts an amount of damage. It doesn't matter where you hit, the monster dies when its HP reaches 0. Additionally, the Cerberus is likely rank A, but the MC has a 40% buff status against beast-type monsters, from when he conquered the Red Wolves dungeon in episode 3. So it's as if the Cerberus had its power cut in half, so a lower B rank.

@Sokah
He was aware that his brother was using lower-rank hunters as bait and had them killed. So, if the two hunters who were not part of his team and who were supposed to die, survived, while his brother and team died, is a pretty logical conclusion that they were somehow murdered by the two survivors.



He didn't go without preparations. He had a teleportation stone, to teleport outside the dungeon, if he got in danger, he basically entered the dungeon to test it.
@Sokah

It's established from episode one, that awakened peoples are superhumans. Even Ji Woo, who was the weakest level E in the world, was still so much stronger than a normal human, that he could best with ease even a professional athlete. And the higher the rank they are, they can survive some really nasty injuries. Moreover, Ji Woo has the player system that changes the rules for him. It doesn't matter how much he bleeds and what injuries he gets, he dies only when his HP reaches 0. Plus, every hit he gets, inflicts a certain amount of damage.

@Triplec3000

I don't know when you read the webcomic last time, but there are no actual changes to the story, just some scenes added to patch things up, and some things are slowed down, because the webcomic is very fast-paced. Also, the MC isn't dumbed down, he was dumb from the start. The MC is always controlled by the story and world-building, he is pushed around instead of pushing the story around. Is because the author makes him too strong too fast, so that's the only way to add stakes to the story. Have you forgotten how Ji Woo refuses to go to Jeju Island because of some dumb reason like: 'My mom needs me here.' only to go there in the end, but only after an S-rank hunter ends up killed? Or how he doesn't go to Japan, because his sister doesn't want him to go, only to go later anyway, but only after countless people die? The MC's choices and motivations have always been quite dumb and poorly defined.



Really? e e The MC's relationship with his own mother needs development? It's his f**ing mother, what is there to develop? You are going after the bottom of the barrel here.



I'm afraid that you misunderstand the kind of anime this is. This is a power fantasy, not a build-up RPG Isekai. Is the sort of story, where the character spends 90% of it, being an OP demi-God more powerful than anyone, making all women blush, and being a total badass. Is not about a guy taking his time to level up. He speeds run that stage - he is an upper A rank by now, and he is gonna be an S rank by the end of the season. Most of the story is about him, going from that to basically becoming a living God who can conquer the world bare-handed. Ji Woo is basically Anos Vordigord in making, and the story is an One Punch Man that takes itself seriously.

@rotflolmaomgeez

Is not a lifetime offer. His thinking is right. If he gets to S rank, 30 billion will be pocket change. What game out there has a level cap at level 30? There is nothing in the system to make him believe there could be a cap, and if there was, it would be more logical to be at level 99 or 100. Moreover, he refuses because he is a stranger, and he doesn't trust him yet, especially after what happened in the dungeon. The offer he got from those hunters was pretty good too, and look how it ended.



He doesn't enter the dungeon to beat it, he enters to test it and learn how much stronger he needs to be to beat it. He had a teleportation stone too, to escape the dungeon if he got in danger.


Who told you that the Cerberus was ranked S? The dungeon is ranked S. That doesn't mean that all the monsters in it are ranked S, it just means that the boss is, and not even that is guaranteed.

@MickeyMinaj

Is not his character design that changes, is Ji Woo itself - he got taller, put on muscles, and got more handsome as he leveled up.

@Leongolleyn

The buffs aren't necessarily random, is the way they appear that is bad design. The story enstablishes a skill, or buff once, and then the story expects you to remember that forever. It was the same with the webcomic. I marathoned the whole damn thing in 2 days, and I still had trouble keeping up with everything, I can't even imagine how it was for those who read it on a weekly basis for 4-5 years. For example, Ji Woo has a 40% boost against beast-type monsters from the time he defeated the wolves in that other dungeon in episode 3, which is why even thou this Cerberus is a lot stronger than the Spider, that buff reduces its strength close to half. But if you don't pay attention and forget those buffs, they seem as if they are pulled out of the ass XD But because of the RPG-like elements, is hard to keep the viewer aware of all those buffs and skills, without dumping on them exposure constantly.


@felixsifuri

He didn't struggle against a 'mediocre' boss. Even the B-rank hunter said that he couldn't take that boss alone. And no he didn't go in the dungeon unprepared. What you forget is that, while Ji Woo sees the ranks of beasts and dungeons, he doesn't really have a clear picture of what rank he is, nor can he equate his level to a rank. The only way he can know how strong he is, is by testing his power. When he beat the spider, he leveled up 3-4 levels. He then killed with ease a group of C-rank and D-rank hunters and killed with no effort a B-rank hunter. He could equivalate from that, that he is at least an upper B-rank or even an A-rank. But by killing the hunters he leveled up again. He didn't enter the dungeon to conquer it, he entered to test it. He got a teleportation stone on him, to teleport outside the dungeon if it gets dangerous. He is only forced to fight to kill the Cerberus only because he lost the teleportation sone when he was about to teleport. And yeah, the Cerberus is stronger than the spider, but he got a 40% buff against beast-type monsters, from when he conquered the dungeon with wolves in episode 3, so the power of the Cerberus is reduced by 40% - is not that bad. But still, he was just planning to test its power.





The eye is a vital point, as it's close to the brain. He inflicts a 10% poison damage with every hit too. Plus, he has the player system, each of his hits inflicts an amount of damage. It doesn't matter where you hit, the monster dies when its HP reaches 0. Additionally, the Cerberus is likely rank A, but the MC has a 40% buff status against beast-type monsters, from when he conquered the Red Wolves dungeon in episode 3. So it's as if the Cerberus had its power cut in half, so a lower B rank.

@Sokah
He was aware that his brother was using lower-rank hunters as bait and had them killed. So, if the two hunters who were not part of his team and who were supposed to die, survived, while his brother and team died, is a pretty logical conclusion that they were somehow murdered by the two survivors.



He didn't go without preparations. He had a teleportation stone, to teleport outside the dungeon, if he got in danger, he basically entered the dungeon to test it.
@Sokah

It's established from episode one, that awakened peoples are superhumans. Even Ji Woo, who was the weakest level E in the world, was still so much stronger than a normal human, that he could best with ease even a professional athlete. And the higher the rank they are, they can survive some really nasty injuries. Moreover, Ji Woo has the player system that changes the rules for him. It doesn't matter how much he bleeds and what injuries he gets, he dies only when his HP reaches 0. Plus, every hit he gets, inflicts a certain amount of damage.

@Triplec3000

I don't know when you read the webcomic last time, but there are no actual changes to the story, just some scenes added to patch things up, and some things are slowed down, because the webcomic is very fast-paced. Also, the MC isn't dumbed down, he was dumb from the start. The MC is always controlled by the story and world-building, he is pushed around instead of pushing the story around. Is because the author makes him too strong too fast, so that's the only way to add stakes to the story. Have you forgotten how Ji Woo refuses to go to Jeju Island because of some dumb reason like: 'My mom needs me here.' only to go there in the end, but only after an S-rank hunter ends up killed? Or how he doesn't go to Japan, because his sister doesn't want him to go, only to go later anyway, but only after countless people die? The MC's choices and motivations have always been quite dumb and poorly defined.



Really? e e The MC's relationship with his own mother needs development? It's his f**ing mother, what is there to develop? You are going after the bottom of the barrel here.



I'm afraid that you misunderstand the kind of anime this is. This is a power fantasy, not a build-up RPG Isekai. Is the sort of story, where the character spends 90% of it, being an OP demi-God more powerful than anyone, making all women blush, and being a total badass. Is not about a guy taking his time to level up. He speeds run that stage - he is an upper A rank by now, and he is gonna be an S rank by the end of the season. Most of the story is about him, going from that to basically becoming a living God who can conquer the world bare-handed. Ji Woo is basically Anos Vordigord in making, and the story is an One Punch Man that takes itself seriously.

Fantastic, it's finally getting on it.
Igris is close

@Anayan_Kashyap when is igris exactly

I wasn't planning on posting anything about this show, but I genuinely don't get the hype around it lol like yeah I guess the animation is pretty cool but idk I've been on the fence between dropping this or not since episode like 3 or 4, and I still am. Only reason I haven't yet is because this show got so hyped up so it must be really good... Right? Idk I might stick around to the end to see where it goes but it does feel just a little overrated at least to me

Power curve goes *brrr* and the plot armor goes *shing*

They better introduce more PvP, some sort of balancing and actual introduce actual stakes. Furthermore, being strong doesn't mean you've gotta take unnecessary risks. The entire premise for entering and staying in this high tier dungeon was just so very off. I was waiting for his health bar to hit 0 when the dying cerberus smashed his body against more concrete buildings. Some more world building would also be nice to put things more into perspective.

That said I will keep watching the show. Plot and characters are as stale as rock solid bread but the show is nicely executed and can be pretty kino.