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| I think the demons are instinctively evil creatures from the human perspective, that's for sure. But from an 'objective' lens, their instincts are probably closer to neutral than to pure evil because it seems like they're trying to become the top of the food chain. When Frieren sees demons are wild beasts, that's exactly what they might be. They are monsters or dire animals who happen to be able to use human speech among other sentient attributes. I don't know how similar they actually are to humans, but when I think about the demon 'girl' Himmel faced, I think its actions were certainly evil but it's will to survive is 'neutral' even though its actions on how to survive end up 99% (or 100%) selfish or evil. Perhaps it would be possible to create a (somewhat) 'truly tolerant' relationship between human and demons, but for that to happen, it would take a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to achieve that. Which is frankly and practically unfruitful, unnecessary, or too difficult nearing impossibility. Humans (or people in general?) are reasonably too selfish in that respect, they usually won't waste their collective lifetime in perusing a far future where mutual relations with a 'beast-like' group of monsters might happen. |
W3TFTOct 22, 2023 11:06 AM
ow + nw = 90-2000s |
| Man it must be good being carefree like Frieren. She may sound arrogant but can back it up well. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| It was quite sad and dark for a Frieren episode. |
| Frieren can wake up in the morning? About time. On the Great Eng Road, Frieren, Fern and Stark are doing more maintenance jobs, though the red-haired is more sensitive about how he's being treated. Given that elves like Freiren are a rarity now, it's not too dissimilar to the times now. The Liberation Festival to celebrate the day where the Hero Party is commemorated for defeating the demons, that's a memory everyone lives by with the statues, which Himmel has intentionally designed to stand the rest of time. Onto Graf Gramat's domain, Frieren sensing demons that are part of a peace envoy, and one of them (who eeriely looks like Monster's Johan) disgusts Frieren so much that she's being thrown into jail. Apparently, one of the demons, Aura the Guillotine has been waning for her forces on the humans, and thry fought so much, they'd rather seek peace, and that's why they are here in Graf Granat. Based on a past experience, a similar innocent looking demon has the Hero Party and the village chief live in harmony, teaching her the ways to live. But killing him and taking his daughter as a replacement for the one she killed, it's still the same betrayal as before that sterned Frieren's heart all the more that demons capable of speech are deceivers. All the more for Graf Granat facing Lugner with the same hatred, the latter wants to forget war and continue on with peace. Lugner's servants of Linie and Draht following him from behind, the hot-blooded came for Frieren attempting to kill her and lay waste to the town, who will have the final laugh? |
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| I can't believe it. Madhouse is on fire, and this cliffhanger is crazy haha. |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
| Always believe in the 1000+ years old elf mage. Always. Especially if the object of her distrust is a demon that looks exactly like Johan Liebert. So elves have practically no libido, huh? |
| The town that fought demons and have an annual celebration about defeating them tried to make peace with them. They actually don't but humans being emphatic as they are... oof. People are really doomed to repeat history if they don't learn it |
| Got to know a little more about elves in general, as well as another reason why Himmel wanted all those statues of the group! With the main focus on demons and their ability to deceive humans...something Frieren seems quite familiar with. We've not seen much of the demons, so I think this episode did a good job at showing how they interact with humans. Frieren doesn't seem that intimidated by these new demons, even with the mention of their leader "Aura", hopefully Stark and Fern are also fine as well. |
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Reply to SouthRzVa
Always believe in the 1000+ years old elf mage. Always. Especially if the object of her distrust is a demon that looks exactly like Johan Liebert.
So elves have practically no libido, huh?
So elves have practically no libido, huh?
| @SouthRzVa Makes sense. If they had libido comparable to humans, then the entire wold would have been overcrowded with elves, since they live for 1000's of years and each could have dozens of children within a couple of centuries. So it's probably nature's way to keep them in check. They traded their libido for a long lifespan. |
Reply to Vhailor
@SouthRzVa Makes sense. If they had libido comparable to humans, then the entire wold would have been overcrowded with elves, since they live for 1000's of years and each could have dozens of children within a couple of centuries. So it's probably nature's way to keep them in check. They traded their libido for a long lifespan.
| @Vhailor Sounds reasonable, I guess. Though now I wonder if Frieren ever had a romantic partner in these 1000+ years. Probably not. |
SouthRzVaOct 25, 2023 10:08 AM
| @eli_shmeli It clearly shows them leaving that town and travelling to another though... |
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| Really chilling how cold the demons are so similar in tone to Frieren. Obviously frieren is way different, but she can be as cold as them sometimes. The answered my question about where the other elfs are also, which seems sad and grim overall. Makes sense that humans would not recognize her unless they had met her before, as efls are extremely rare and there adventure was so long ago most people who had seen them have died also so it becomes legend. |
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Reply to thepath
If she is stronger that Aura, then why she can't beat the Dragon by herself in the previous episodes ??!
| @thepath I think she could beat the dragon by herself, she just wanted Fern to do it. Fern was the only one who shot at the dragon. Also, Frieren promised Stark to finish off the dragon if he died, meaning, she could do it. |
| Poor villager, could've gotten big bragging rights if Frieren told him who she actually was. |
| Damn this was great. Love the flex at the end |
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| Surprise with the demons, strange characters!!! kekeke |
| This show is fantastic |
"𝙇𝙤𝙣𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙜... 𝙞𝙢𝙥𝙪𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙮... 𝙟𝙤𝙮... 𝙥𝙖𝙞𝙣... 𝙄 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙘𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙢 𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙖𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙚. 𝙋𝙞𝙘𝙠 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙢 𝙪𝙥 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙘𝙖𝙧𝙧𝙮 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙢 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙮𝙤𝙪. 𝘼𝙡𝙡 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙜𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧... 𝙞𝙨 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙫𝙖𝙡𝙪𝙚." |
| "We're not fairytales. We really existed" is such a great line. I love how much this series continues to give emphasis to the small moments. They are what really define the characters and world. Also it is oddly refreshing that the demons are completely irredeemable. Frierens line at the end was badass. |
| Frierens Most based Quote and what got me to actually watch this anime and oh boi did it feel good. Damn I want to impregnate her dead fish eyed elf face. |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| The concept of demons in this anime is so different from the norm, but I kind of like its distinct uniqueness. |
| The demons can't be trusted, which is unfortunate. Maybe if there was a spell to give them more human emotions, things would change. |
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| every ep is fun and enjoyable . |
| Frieren is just that confident |
"......If I told you that I was a real witch, would you believe it?"  |
Reply to erikkamirs
Sensing a lot of anti-demon settlement around here...
In seriousness, one of the fascinating points of the manga was their cutthroat depiction of demons. These guys are not human or even human-like.
Also one of the demons reminds me of Johan Liebert from Monster.
In seriousness, one of the fascinating points of the manga was their cutthroat depiction of demons. These guys are not human or even human-like.
Also one of the demons reminds me of Johan Liebert from Monster.
| @erikkamirs Nice catch. Frieren's author is very competent in depict the demons as absolute psycho/sociopaths. Another arc in the future will take it a lot more deep. |
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| Frieren's smirk after joking that Stark is selfish was lol And another of Fern's deadpan reactions as she says Stark is めんどくさい lmao But dang, that last line was badass. "Just so you know, I'm strong." "Stronger than me?" "Than Aura the Guillotine." Can't wait to see what happens next. |
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| Finally; some stakes. |
| I really like the depiction of demons in this series. Cause this is what demons actually are. They arent misunderstood people that need to be friended and understood like every other anime shows you, they're demons. I'm glad they arent potraying them as sympathetic and it'll be that much more satisfying when Frieren is shown to be correct and kills them all. |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| This anime is definitely the anime of the season. Madhouse is doing a fantastic job with it. If they keep up this fantastic quality of work, I would like to see it peak ahead of FMAB. |
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