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RayReynolds said: This is the typical comment of someone who justifies that the author does not have any control of his bad habits and fetishes. It is serious because many series that could be great like made in abyss or mushoku are ruined for the pedophilia. Pretty rich coming from a dude with an avatar of a dude who groomed and manipulated a 13 year old omegaLUL. Also, Hisoka's a pedophile so who are you to accuse an anime of pedophilia? Seriously, there are exist people who attack the person because of their profile picture or because of their favorite character instead of arguing against the arguments? congratulations you only show your ineptitude. |
G0ldStarkOct 11, 2021 3:54 AM
zyke said: liam0207 said: If that's so, why do you say other people have their fantasies shit on? It's obviously intending to be wholesome, considering it's a rom-com. That's literally the point of rom-com's. The historical setting is true and it allows us to reflect, yes, but then by your logic you simply cannot have a wholesome romance or prioritise any other themes involving characters with a 17-14 age gap because the only thing that matters is that it's fucked up—if that were so, Romeo and Juliet, wherein the female lead is 13, would not be a timeless story, because all we'd be able to focus on is how 'fucked up' the romance is. The bottom line is that back then, it wasn't fucked up. At all. That thought just didn't occur to people. Who are we to judge people for the shit that happened by our own anachronistic morals? If we place it into OUR context then yes, it is exceedingly fucked up. For example, in the modern world slavery is appalling, one of the darkest aspects of humanity. And yet, for the majority of history, without slavery civilization would have fallen apart, considering they were the backbone of almost every workforce, not least the Romans. So if someone made hitler x anne frank rom-com with all other historical facts intact I should just take it as entertainment because it was perfectly fine gassing some people back then? If you watch old time war movie you just ignore all the rape during pillaging because it was necessary to maintain the motivation of the troops? You can make any kind of fucked up justification for shit that has happened in the past, doesnt make it any less fucked up. Only reason this show is getting this preferential treatment is because bunch of sad and lonely dudes who like the idea of having completely devoted slave for them. Also there is more slavery now than ever before in history. Child brides are still a thing to this date. World can function just fine without either of those, youre only making shitty justification for both of them. First of all, Anne frank and fucking Hitler are way removed from an arranged marriage between a second son of a rich family and someone who would have been seen as 'doing her social duty.' Also, saying that "there is more slavery now than ever before in history" is just one of the most wildly incorrect statements I've ever heard. Yes, slavery still exists. Yes, it's awful. Does it run literally every single aspect of our world? no. The majority of people will go their entire lives without seeing a slave. For the majority of human history, you couldn't walk down the street without seeing ten of them, and practically every family that could afford slaves had one, because—especially prior to coinage currency—they literally were one of the main form of currency between nobility. I have absolutely no idea where you got that idea from lmao. Also, a quick note on one of your points. The concept that 'they were in a fucked up context, therefore it cannot be wholesome' just isn't true. Whilst this isn't a clear-cut example of it, there are infinite wholesome stories that exist admist tragedy, as believe it or not the two genre's mix quite well. This is a more tamed and reserved version and like I said it isn't clear-cut or cookie-cutter, but it certainly is true. A more explicit example is Shield Hero. Naofumi literally buys Raphtalia as a slave, and yet I cannot imagine a single person who has seen the show describing their relationship as anything but wholesome. |
liam0207Oct 11, 2021 5:47 AM
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| If this is a complete adaptation, then they are rushing it. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
SgtBaitMan said: Why do you think that? I think the pacing of the first episode was very reasonable, especially if they intend to cover the whole manga in 12-13 episodes.If this is a complete adaptation, then they are rushing it. |
SpectrumDT said: SgtBaitMan said: Why do you think that? I think the pacing of the first episode was very reasonable, especially if they intend to cover the whole manga in 12-13 episodes.If this is a complete adaptation, then they are rushing it. I think they could have portrayed the accident and its consequence more memorably, and one-cour won't be enough to set things in a decent pace. I hardly felt heart-warming, not gonna lie. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp! |
| this has potential !! imma keep watch it |
| I was recommended this cos I liked Tonikawa: Fly Me to the Moon. Let's see if this can up it in wholesomeness, cause that's what I'm here for. And I really love Tonikaku Kawaii. That girl Yuzuki seemed too optimistic, like her (future) husband could've been any sort of person. She probably knew it was a young dude but if his personality was more renegade type (which I assume was common for men in that era) it easily could've been terrible for her. But I suppose her optimism is a perfect contrast to Tamahiko's pessimism and that's what this show is about (is what I got so far). The era this show takes place in is interesting. It immediately sets itself out from Tonikawa which is a plus from me. But how come Yuzu wore sailor uniform aka seifuku in school? At least it resembled one except it was black. I thought that type of school uniform for girls was more modern than when this show takes place in. How was the literacy rate of women in Japan 100 years ago? I'm largely ignorant about Japanese history and lore despite watching many anime. Anime is my most biggest source of information regarding Japanese culture (which I'm not ashamed of admitting and don't think is inherently a bad thing) before watching Japanese YouTubers like Abroad in Japan and Trash Taste Podcast members.  Yuzu-chan is stronk. |
| the only thing i have to say is a lot of people are dismissing this as something like Senko, but they are being too quick. slightly spoiler but not really |
| Proud Supporter of αααͺα’α¨α α‘αααααΎα²α |
liam0207 said: zyke said: So if someone made hitler x anne frank rom-com with all other historical facts intact I should just take it as entertainment because it was perfectly fine gassing some people back then? If you watch old time war movie you just ignore all the rape during pillaging because it was necessary to maintain the motivation of the troops? You can make any kind of fucked up justification for shit that has happened in the past, doesnt make it any less fucked up. Only reason this show is getting this preferential treatment is because bunch of sad and lonely dudes who like the idea of having completely devoted slave for them. Also there is more slavery now than ever before in history. Child brides are still a thing to this date. World can function just fine without either of those, youre only making shitty justification for both of them. First of all, Anne frank and fucking Hitler are way removed from an arranged marriage between a second son of a rich family and someone who would have been seen as 'doing her social duty.' Also, saying that "there is more slavery now than ever before in history" is just one of the most wildly incorrect statements I've ever heard. Yes, slavery still exists. Yes, it's awful. Does it run literally every single aspect of our world? no. The majority of people will go their entire lives without seeing a slave. For the majority of human history, you couldn't walk down the street without seeing ten of them, and practically every family that could afford slaves had one, because—especially prior to coinage currency—they literally were one of the main form of currency between nobility. I have absolutely no idea where you got that idea from lmao. Also, a quick note on one of your points. The concept that 'they were in a fucked up context, therefore it cannot be wholesome' just isn't true. Whilst this isn't a clear-cut example of it, there are infinite wholesome stories that exist admist tragedy, as believe it or not the two genre's mix quite well. This is a more tamed and reserved version and like I said it isn't clear-cut or cookie-cutter, but it certainly is true. A more explicit example is Shield Hero. Naofumi literally buys Raphtalia as a slave, and yet I cannot imagine a single person who has seen the show describing their relationship as anything but wholesome. First of all about salvery https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-trafficking-persons-one-in-200 Saying its wholesome doesnt make it wholesome unless your moral values are so skewed you consider owning child bride as wholesome. Ive read shield hero manga and there is nothing wholesome about their relationship. She is basically just in debt emotionally even though he just molded her to be his loyal weapon. |
| Definitely can't see this as a wholesome romance anime due to their age gap. I get it was normal back then, but it's just weird for it to be seen as a cute and wholesome relationship lmao Other than that, this episode felt so stupid man. Were they not aware left handed people existed in the 1920s?? I'm not into history so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure left handed people have been around way before the 1920s. Also the colouring isn't that good, they just look weird and unnatural. Like, she looks as if a toddler drew her skin with a pale pink pencil. It could just be something with lighting, but it still just looks bad. Not to mention his eye bags, they just got a grey colour and slapped it under his eyes. Really just looks weird. |
| The letterbox fading and the watercolour backgrounds were cool. Premise is way too gimmicky for me to feel much about the characters. Neither of the characters feel deep or human enough to be honest. |
| This was very good, I adored this. Right off the bat I’m reminded of Tonikaku Kawaii, which is great, and I already love the relationship between Yuzuki and Tamahiko. I can 100% see this being a favorite of mine this season, exactly what I was hoping it would be. OP and ED were both great too. Also there was a part where they drank warm milk with sugar mixed in, I actually really wanna try that now. |
| I wish all SJW here did something about women treatment and arranged marriages at Middle East and some other countries in 2021 instead of bashing anime taking place in 1921. |
| this anime is the answer to the question: what if Yasujiro Ozu invented moe? |
MichaelJacksonOct 12, 2021 7:58 PM
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geptor said: I wish all SJW here did something about women treatment and arranged marriages at Middle East and some other countries in 2021 instead of bashing anime taking place in 1921. middle eastern chads would kick them with their big toe if those soy-lords tried that sh*t. |
| :v |
| I gotta re-read the manga just to make sure this is not the other 'Taisho" manga with sad story... Apparently, this is the happy fun one. Btw, what surprised me is the 8-notes song the girl sung at start bears a very similarity to this song (skip to 0:16). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTpUQO0aryw Which back then translated to this (skip to 0:18) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFiF-cuBm8 Both are very old song. And for this anime to keep using this even in low BGM.... ugh, this is hard. |
Fredy-sanOct 13, 2021 12:45 AM
realswagmoney said: Definitely can't see this as a wholesome romance anime due to their age gap. I get it was normal back then, but it's just weird for it to be seen as a cute and wholesome relationship lmao Three years? That's barely an age gap to speak of in the first place. Forget what was normal back then - That's not even that uncommon today or popularly demonized nowadays in a lot of places. Not at all. |
WatchTillTandava said: realswagmoney said: Definitely can't see this as a wholesome romance anime due to their age gap. I get it was normal back then, but it's just weird for it to be seen as a cute and wholesome relationship lmao Three years? That's barely an age gap to speak of in the first place. Forget what was normal back then - That's not even that uncommon today or popularly demonized nowadays in a lot of places. Not at all. three years isn't weird as adults, but they're teenagers. The issue is that there's a massive difference in maturity between a 14 year old and a 17-18 year old. Though I agree, it isn't even uncommon today but that doesn't make it ok lmao |
realswagmoney said: three years isn't weird as adults, but they're teenagers. The issue is that there's a massive difference in maturity between a 14 year old and a 17-18 year old. Though I agree, it isn't even uncommon today but that doesn't make it ok lmao I would be inclined to say it really depends heavily on the specifics of the individual involved rather than being able to make a blanket generalization of all 14 year-olds, 17 year-olds, or 18 year-olds. Is the average 17 year-old more mature compared to the average 14 year-old who attend the same school, have similar family backgrounds, and are from the same or similar socio-economic class? Sure, probably, assuming all other factors like those are the same or similar. What if the 14 year-old has been working since she was 9 to support their family and be able to afford to eat, whereas the 17 year-old skips every other class and does nothing but play video games and nap? Because one is impoverished and raised in a harsher environment. One is wealthy, spoiled, and lazy. Which will be more likely to have a sense of responsibility and danger and make difficult or wise decisions? What if they are 30 IQ points apart? What if they are neuro-developmentally different in innumerable other ways? Age isn't 100% irrelevant, but it's by far not the only factor which goes into shaping and determining a level of any individual human being's development, because it is by far not the sole arbiter of life experience. |
| Kinda weird that the girl looks like 4 yrs old, other then that the anime looks really cute. This reminds me of "The Duke of Death and His Maid" |
| "he has it big as a cactus but he won't let go of my head and I puke on his cock bitch" - Boy by Fishball |
| Very cute, I was gonna read this manga but since anime will cover it whole I'll just watch it. JiangHaoyi1979 said: Oh, another Duke of Death and his Black Maid thingy again. They can touch each other here. Flair_Noble said: The only issue I have is why is there an electrical ceiling lamp in a house that's in the mountains in the early 1920's? Also the school uniforms looked quite modern as well for the timeline it's set in. Sailor uniforms were introduced in Japan in 1920 |
bastek66Oct 13, 2021 2:45 PM
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geptor said: What specific action do you recommend? What can westerners do to help women in the Middle East?I wish all SJW here did something about women treatment and arranged marriages at Middle East and some other countries in 2021 instead of bashing anime taking place in 1921. I don't think you mean what you say. I suspect that you are not genuinely interested about the well-being of women in the Middle East. I suspect you are being dishonest and using this as a rhetorical "gotcha" in order to feel like you have "won" an argument. The underlying reasoning is invalid in any case. It is perfectly reasonable to address a set of problems from multiple fronts at once instead of concentrating all one's efforts on the single "worst" problem. |
realswagmoney said: I don't know about Taishou Japan, but in a lot of places left-handed people were persecuted and forced to use their right hand. Apparently some cultures have a weird superstition that left-handedness is somehow bad. Other than that, this episode felt so stupid man. Were they not aware left handed people existed in the 1920s?? I'm not into history so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure left handed people have been around way before the 1920s. It is conceivable that Taishou Japan also had this taboo, but that is just a guess. |
SpectrumDT said: realswagmoney said: I don't know about Taishou Japan, but in a lot of places left-handed people were persecuted and forced to use their right hand. Apparently some cultures have a weird superstition that left-handedness is somehow bad. Other than that, this episode felt so stupid man. Were they not aware left handed people existed in the 1920s?? I'm not into history so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure left handed people have been around way before the 1920s. It is conceivable that Taishou Japan also had this taboo, but that is just a guess. I assumed it might've been something like that, though even if it is a thing that happened or not it just felt frustrating to watch kinda in the sense that's like "Jesus, people back then were stupid" lmao |
WatchTillTandava said: I would be inclined to say it really depends heavily on the specifics of the individual involved rather than being able to make a blanket generalization of all 14 year-olds, 17 year-olds, or 18 year-olds. Is the average 17 year-old more mature compared to the average 14 year-old who attend the same school, have similar family backgrounds, and are from the same or similar socio-economic class? Sure, probably, assuming all other factors like those are the same or similar. What if the 14 year-old has been working since she was 9 to support their family and be able to afford to eat, whereas the 17 year-old skips every other class and does nothing but play video games and nap? Because one is impoverished and raised in a harsher environment. One is wealthy, spoiled, and lazy. Which will be more likely to have a sense of responsibility and danger and make difficult or wise decisions? What if they are 30 IQ points apart? What if they are neuro-developmentally different in innumerable other ways? Age isn't 100% irrelevant, but it's by far not the only factor which goes into shaping and determining a level of any individual human being's development, because it is by far not the sole arbiter of life experience. ^100% this. Unfortunately a viewpoint like that is nuanced and not black or white and can't easily be put into someone's 'team'. |
SpectrumDT said: The underlying reasoning is invalid in any case. It is perfectly reasonable to address a set of problems from multiple fronts at once instead of concentrating all one's efforts on the single "worst" problem. Well. All problems in a set should be problems. Arranged marriages in Taishou Japan showed from historic perspective as a fact that happened is not a problem at all. But those who I try to 'win' argument with will fight it ferociously because they do not know or prefer to not know worst things are actually happening modern times and investing energy into solving those benefits humanity more. And even if you consider 'multiple fronts' approach excuses like 'what can I do with XXX let me beat dead horse instead' are lame. Ofc I have no genuine concern for Middle East women in particular. But I do think about how nice it would be for everyone on Earth have equal chances to succeed and be happy in life. Regardless of gender or color or country. |
| Wow, this anime is similar to tonikawa and I like it <3 To the people who say that a 17 year boy shouldn't date a 14 year girl... Well, in my country (Italy) and other countries too, there are 14-15 years old girls who date boys older than them and it is pretty normal lol |
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| So an anime during 1920's in Japan? I'm already hooked just for the aesthetic during that time. Man instead of having a crappy father, Tamahiko ended up with a whole family that is trash (only for now I hope). I wonder if his mother was just as cold. Then again he did say that his family was affectionate. Luckily Yuzuki's there for him to teach him a little about that. Kinda want to read the manga now. |
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| this was great. that scene where yuzu was humming the song was cute af. Looks like this will have a complete adaptation. I'm definitely here for it. Seems like tonikawa but better lol. people who have a problem with the setting really need to look at how they think. Nothing about this shows any creepy undertones and none of it was meant to be a self insert. |
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| I cannot believe this flew under my radar, I read the manga a year or two ago and somehow never realized this got an anime adaptation. I might have missed it completely if a friend didn't mention it. Anyway, great episode. I think they really did capture the spirit of the manga and that's all you can ask in a show like this. The direction is good, the soundtrack is good and the seiyuu's fit their character. As long as they adapt it faithfully, this will be a wonderful ride. |
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| Not a bad Slice of Life plot....I'm looking forward to this anime :D |
PulseDawg said: Aparently the tune was written by a man named William O Perkins who lived from 1831 to 1902. This is the Taisho period 1912-25, so it must have come to Japan from wherever he's from. I can't find much information about him outside of the note in the hymn book I did some more researching, and the tune was actually written by Charles C. Converse. The tune is called Erie / Converse (by Charles C. Converse) in 1868. The lyrics to "What a Friend I have in Jesus" came from a poem by Joseph M. Scriven. After Freedom of Religion was enacted in 1871, Christians were able to freely come and proselytize in Japan, it is possible that they brought the hymn over and had it translated into "Itsukushimi Fukaki". Now there are multiple translations and the melody is used in all sorts of ways. |
 The only thing better than anime is anime with snacks. |
| Bunch of fucking retards here just as I expected to find in this show. Please never die or fail me, you always cackle my day for the better. |
| I was hesitating as to whether watch this or not since I knew there'd be drama but the first episode was great. The drama was there but the amount of wholesomeness far outweighed it and it was so sweet. Yuzu's such a lovely wife, Tamahiko's lucky to have her as his bride. Their interactions were amusing and I really liked Yuzuki. Loved the premise and I know there will be more drama but with Yuzuki here I'm definitely gonna enjoy this. |
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| My heart was not ready for this level of wholesomeness. MAL discussion is every bit as amusing as I anticipated though. |
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| Such a sweet and heartwarming anime. While he thought his family saw him useless throw him far away, his dad gave him a cute little bride to be with him. They could've throw him away and without a home if they really don't care about him, but instead he lives in a decent house gave him a wonderful bride to take care of him. This is a heartwarming, relaxing anime. People who forcefully insert their stupid moral grandstanding such as underage sexual relationships which is not the purpose of this anime are the ones who have a real problems with themselves and need to consult a mental psychiatrist. |
MagitoNov 10, 2021 7:04 AM
| It is good, it is wholesome, the usual. Although I am more of a fan of Banished Slow Life over this one. Maybe I will binge this, but I have an idea of how this will end already. Eh, decent enough. |
| Can't believe I'm finally back to "Update Anime" mode after few moments just "re-watching Anime" thanks to this first episode. At first I think to just watch a few minute, but then most of Tamahiko's thought makes me feel the resemblance with my past and then how Yuzu treat him... Makes me want to watch this episode fully. |
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| Oh this is gonna be one of the greats of this season! Its so cute and wholesome! I can already tell I'll be adding this to my whole romance folder for re-watching in the future. I'm glad I left this for a while to build up episodes. Can't wait to see what adorable things come from this series. |
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