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Aug 24, 2015 3:13 AM
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NoongaJuice said:

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So a person who was killing off strong candidates so she could become a saint is "the most normal one"????

#Logic


I'm pretty sure she was made a saint in order to kill off the strong candidates, not the other way around. She was killing hero candidates to ensure that there will be no heroes available to fight the fiends or failing that, that the ones that get selected will be as weak as possible.
Aug 24, 2015 3:19 AM

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great episode, best in last couple of weeks. hans n adlet have some nice chemistry, hope none of them is 7th

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Aug 24, 2015 3:23 AM

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thinking that adlet is excluded from being 7th just because he is mc (assuming this series does have mc) is stupid imo

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Aug 24, 2015 3:33 AM

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flannan said:
Can anybody explain how does this "hypnosis" work? Isn't Hans supposed to be a mundane person?
trannon1 said:
Well, since the anime doesn't display the thoughts of the 7th for obvious reasons, the 7th is actually extremely psychotic. In the novel, during the hunt for Adlet, the 7th often thought with pleasure about what the faces of the other Braves would be like when Adlet turns out to be a real Brave after he gets killed. The 7th then thinks about how lovely it would be when they slaughter each other from suspicion. So, whoever the 7th is, don't even try justify their actions, no matter who they may be.

Looking forward to the next episode so much, the number one couple will be born.

Actually, we don't know if it is really what the 7th thought, or just said to increase dramatic tension.

when someone think they are gonna die, they would imagine themselves dying when in reality they aren't. Study psychology and you would understand.
Also, it is the seventh's thought. quotes from the story:

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CrowleYo said:
thinking that adlet is excluded from being 7th just because he is mc (assuming this series does have mc) is stupid imo

we have seen him getting the mark so y he is 100% not the 7th

But we've only seen him getting the mark, not Nashetania and the others. Who knows if that's the correct way to get it? Maybe the right way is to have your whole body engulfed in a white light...etc?
Besides, when he got it, there were these tentacle-like things reaching towards his eyes. Perhaps it's foreshadowing that his mark isn't positive...?
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CrowleYo said:
thinking that adlet is excluded from being 7th just because he is mc (assuming this series does have mc) is stupid imo

we have seen him getting the mark so y he is 100% not the 7th
Aug 24, 2015 3:57 AM

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juicykitten95 said:
CrowleYo said:
thinking that adlet is excluded from being 7th just because he is mc (assuming this series does have mc) is stupid imo

we have seen him getting the mark so y he is 100% not the 7th

but we haven't seen who did he get the mark from. it could've easily been the demon god. we've been shown some of the adlets life when he was kid, but we don't know the whole story. missing parts can change it drastically, for example what happened after that talking fiend entered adlets village? that could've been the very moment adlet joined demon god. not saying that that's the case, just.. anything is possible at this point, and no1 should be free of suspicion.

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Aug 24, 2015 3:58 AM

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Now I want Chamots dead, whatever she's seventh or not.
Aug 24, 2015 4:13 AM

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it's interesting how some people free certain characters of doubt based on "he/she had plenty of chances to kill him/her, they can't be the 7th!" who did ever say that the 7ths goal is to kill the braves one by one? 7ths motives are still unknown to us. so far my guess is, they're tryna buy time. if that's the case, hans (my fav QQ) is most suspicious atm

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Aug 24, 2015 4:16 AM

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fatalystic said:
NoongaJuice said:

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So a person who was killing off strong candidates so she could become a saint is "the most normal one"????

#Logic


I'm pretty sure she was made a saint in order to kill off the strong candidates, not the other way around. She was killing hero candidates to ensure that there will be no heroes available to fight the fiends or failing that, that the ones that get selected will be as weak as possible.

That's right. Fremy did not kill Brave candidates to become saint or to become a Brave herself. She has killed them because she worked for the demons, and that killing will weaken the Brave party and make it easier for demons to fend them off and revive the demon god.
Aug 24, 2015 4:38 AM

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Who here want's to pimp slap chamot? Because i sure do.
Aug 24, 2015 4:43 AM

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flannan said:

That's right. Fremy did not kill Brave candidates to become saint or to become a Brave herself. She has killed them because she worked for the demons, and that killing will weaken the Brave party and make it easier for demons to fend them off and revive the demon god.
Yeah and we know that she tried to kill Chamo so why Mora was not in her list ?
Aug 24, 2015 5:04 AM
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Is it basically already confirmed who is the 7th Brave is?



there is no other way that she is not the one
clue:
1. Absolutely want to remove Adlet ("as soon as you find him, kill him")
2. Beside Bunny, Flamie and Goldov, she is the only one who know how to activate barrier
3. Intentionally make Chamot, the absolute stronger to believe her so that Chamot can kill all the work for her (Chamot: "i won't kill Maura-obasan")
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flannan said:
fatalystic said:


I'm pretty sure she was made a saint in order to kill off the strong candidates, not the other way around. She was killing hero candidates to ensure that there will be no heroes available to fight the fiends or failing that, that the ones that get selected will be as weak as possible.

That's right. Fremy did not kill Brave candidates to become saint or to become a Brave herself. She has killed them because she worked for the demons, and that killing will weaken the Brave party and make it easier for demons to fend them off and revive the demon god.

Great point. Still doesn't explain how that's normal.
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Aug 24, 2015 5:22 AM

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Man, I really thought that Adelt was dead for a second there, had to put my breakfast down for a second.

I'M SOO GLAD THAT HANS ISN'T A FAKE...I mean if it was that would be the most obvious case for the anime, even from the start he was the first one that jumped into my head..
But I will give him credit, Cat-Boy sure knows how to fight and go for the kill, hence he last "Job" but damn he has got move's and even more credit goes to Adelt that sword shot was so damn awesome, I for one didn't see that coming..

Also Flamie second best girl of the season?? Or maybe third...Okay fourth but still she is awesome
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CrowleYo said:
it's interesting how some people free certain characters of doubt based on "he/she had plenty of chances to kill him/her, they can't be the 7th!" who did ever say that the 7ths goal is to kill the braves one by one? 7ths motives are still unknown to us. so far my guess is, they're tryna buy time. if that's the case, hans (my fav QQ) is most suspicious atm


To go even further, we do not even know if 7th even KNOWS he is 7th, if Adlet thinking that there's another person in the barrier doing shit behind the scenes, is correct. If his theory is correct, then all that is needed is for seventh to BE there.
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I never suspected Hans or Fremy anyway, it would have been to obvious. I've always suspected Mora, "The mountain" ... She's both a saint, and a respected one at that, therefore everyone will believe most stuff she says. She is definitely one of the smartest/most cunning ones in the group.

Also, what is the big deal about Adlet kidnapping Fremy? Innocent or not he would've been killed if he didn't? That absolutely doesn't make him the least bit suspicious.
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ViciLockhart said:
flannan said:

That's right. Fremy did not kill Brave candidates to become saint or to become a Brave herself. She has killed them because she worked for the demons, and that killing will weaken the Brave party and make it easier for demons to fend them off and revive the demon god.
Yeah and we know that she tried to kill Chamo so why Mora was not in her list ?

She wasn't?
Maybe that's because Mora is the 7th.
Maybe because she is quite weak and old, so wasn't deemed a priority target.

NoongaJuice said:
flannan said:

That's right. Fremy did not kill Brave candidates to become saint or to become a Brave herself. She has killed them because she worked for the demons, and that killing will weaken the Brave party and make it easier for demons to fend them off and revive the demon god.

Great point. Still doesn't explain how that's normal.

That's relatively normal, when compared to Chamo who kills or tortures people at the drop of a hat, or Nashetania who unleashes a rain of swords on people for fun.
The cat-boy who thinks the best way to know the truth is to try to kill somebody, and the knight with anger control issues are a little better. Also, Goldov has probably killed more people than Fremy, but they weren't young females, so nobody cares about them.
I should say some bad things about Adlet and Mora too.
Aug 24, 2015 6:17 AM

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CookingPriest said:

To go even further, we do not even know if 7th even KNOWS he is 7th, if Adlet thinking that there's another person in the barrier doing shit behind the scenes, is correct. If his theory is correct, then all that is needed is for seventh to BE there.


Speaking of which, do we even know that there is 8 people in the barrier? There could be 2 fakes, and one hero that never made it to the barrier?
Aug 24, 2015 6:58 AM

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Poffpoff said:

Also, what is the big deal about Adlet kidnapping Fremy? Innocent or not he would've been killed if he didn't? That absolutely doesn't make him the least bit suspicious.

Well, good people usually don't take hostages.
For many people, being good means having a code of conduct that doesn't allow you to hurt other people much, and tells you to help other people when needed. There is an article somewhere on Wikipedia about that.
Adlet isn't like that, and draws his strength from doing things other people won't do. That doesn't earn him much sympathy among simple people, even as many viewers enjoy that a lot.
Aug 24, 2015 7:08 AM

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And with this ep, any of my worries that the show would shove everything aside and focus ONLY on the mystery, are gone. It's actually doing the best thing it can, which is providing characterization & forming bonds between the characters(Adlet & Hans are on their way to becoming bros, if they aren't already) while going forward with the mystery. The two of team are basically cleared of any suspicion right now, and Chamo as well, unless one of them is somehow controlled by the Demon Lord or something and is unaware of it - but then, everyone would be highly suspicious.

The fight between Adlet & Hans was great as well - Hans definitely has the moves there and Adlet really couldn't keep him with him, yet he played his last card well. Gotta love when the display of one character's abilities helps a bit with the characterization of his opponent too. Adlet's well aware of his strengths & limits.

And as for Chamo...I'll say it once and I'll say it again: Who cares if she's not a fake! Having a crazy bloodthirsty overpowered little brat like her at your side can be just as dangerous. It's all fine & dandy when she can overpower weaker fiends but what happens when shit hits the fan and things get tense(which has to happen eventually, if we get a 2nd season....) if she can't control herself. It's like having a rabid dog at your side. Though at least Maura seems to have her on a tight leash so I suppose it's okay...
Aug 24, 2015 7:09 AM

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hans is actually a pretty decent guy
Aug 24, 2015 7:19 AM

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The Adlet x Hans bromance

This was a really good episode all around.
Aug 24, 2015 7:35 AM

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That ability must do one hell of a job on her teeth
Aug 24, 2015 7:39 AM

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Chamot just die or at least get beaten half to death.
Aug 24, 2015 7:40 AM
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I hate Chamot so much.
She is so annoying and such a little creep.
I hope sie dies and I can be happy again.
I love how Hans and Adlet fought together tho.
Aug 24, 2015 8:02 AM

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A good episode, where atleast Hans realises that Adlet isn't the 7th Brave. I'm pretty sure the 7th is Bunny Ears.

Also that freaking loli has puke as her weapon. Ugh...
Aug 24, 2015 8:03 AM

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Well Adlet obviously isn't.
Fremy is out of the question too.

These two are absolute certain.

Chamot can't be the fake too not because of any deduction, but because Chamot can 1v6 them and win lol.

So you are left with 4 suspects, with varying degree. Yes Hans isn't fully cleared yet.

Anyway Nashetania should be the fake given the various clues drop in previous episodes. Her outbreak at the altar seems like a lame act to cover up.

And of course most importantly, Nashetania is the only one with the ability to activate the barrier without entering the temple given no one else has hidden ability that can achieve that too.

Nashetania is the sword saint. She creates sword out of thin air. The method of activating barrier is to just plunge a sword into the altar.
Aug 24, 2015 8:11 AM

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Hans Cleared
Fremy Cleared
Maura Cleared
Chamot Cleared

And I doubt Goldof is fake since he's so loyal to the annoying princess.
I think it's Nashetaniya, but still sticking to Adlet possibly being the fake without knowing it. Don't see any other reason Nashetaniya would protect/like him.
Aug 24, 2015 8:27 AM

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Andromalus said:
Hans Cleared
Fremy Cleared
Maura Cleared
Chamot Cleared

And I doubt Goldof is fake since he's so loyal to the annoying princess.
I think it's Nashetaniya, but still sticking to Adlet possibly being the fake without knowing it. Don't see any other reason Nashetaniya would protect/like him.


Wait, why do you think Mora Is cleared?
Aug 24, 2015 8:27 AM

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why do I even watch this? never fighting demon god...
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Aug 24, 2015 8:28 AM

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flannan said:

She wasn't?
Maybe that's because Mora is the 7th.
Maybe because she is quite weak and old, so wasn't deemed a priority target.


30 years i wouldn't consider her as old also maybe she isn't the strongest but she isn't weak also .. In episode 3 i belevie Adlet wasn't suprised that she was chosen because she was well known as a saint and head of a temple i'm sure that Fremy leaders was aware of her so why she wasn't targeted by them .. btw sry for my bad english;p
Aug 24, 2015 8:30 AM

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Vnime said:
why do I even watch this? never fighting demon god...


If that's what you're expecting then drop the series rather than questioning yourself, you'll do yourself a favour.
Aug 24, 2015 8:44 AM

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Chamot has got to be the worst anime character of the year. Horrible personality, horrible attitude, bad character design, and her attack... is vomit.
Aug 24, 2015 8:47 AM

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Frrrosty said:
Vnime said:
why do I even watch this? never fighting demon god...


If that's what you're expecting then drop the series rather than questioning yourself, you'll do yourself a favour.


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Frrrosty said:
Andromalus said:
Hans Cleared
Fremy Cleared
Maura Cleared
Chamot Cleared

And I doubt Goldof is fake since he's so loyal to the annoying princess.
I think it's Nashetaniya, but still sticking to Adlet possibly being the fake without knowing it. Don't see any other reason Nashetaniya would protect/like him.


Wait, why do you think Mora Is cleared?


Because she was with Chamot, Chamot believes her. If she had a plot she could ve killed her before they even got to the temple and then say she hadn't met her. No matter how op Chamot is, I think Maura could ve killed her since Chamot doesn't suspect her.

Although the "Kill him, no matter what" in today's episode might make her seem suspicious, I think it was just because she thinks Fremy might have doubts when she confronted Adlet (If he was the fake) and would end up dieing. But, even if Adlet is fake, he is still a nice guy so that won't be happening.
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HandsomeMan said:
Chamot has got to be the worst anime character of the year. Horrible personality, horrible attitude, bad character design, and her attack... is vomit.

Nah I think you just find her annoying. Don't confuse bad character with annoying character.
Aug 24, 2015 9:01 AM

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Andromalus said:


Because she was with Chamot, Chamot believes her. If she had a plot she could ve killed her before they even got to the temple and then say she hadn't met her. No matter how op Chamot is, I think Maura could ve killed her since Chamot doesn't suspect her.

Although the "Kill him, no matter what" in today's episode might make her seem suspicious, I think it was just because she thinks Fremy might have doubts when she confronted Adlet (If he was the fake) and would end up dieing. But, even if Adlet is fake, he is still a nice guy so that won't be happening.


Well here's my counterargument :
1. Mora was with Hans not Chamo. (Episode 4)
2.Chamo is a simpleton in character so she could be easily manipulated by Mora
3.You're assuming that the fake's goal is to kill all the other braves. It hasn't been stated in the anime and the other braves don't know the fake's objective.
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Frrrosty said:
HandsomeMan said:
Chamot has got to be the worst anime character of the year. Horrible personality, horrible attitude, bad character design, and her attack... is vomit.

Nah I think you just find her annoying. Don't confuse bad character with annoying character.

She's one of the most annoying characters ever created which makes her one of the worst characters for me. It's as simple as that. If you will defend that pool of vomit then you're either a blind fanboy or have awful taste in characters.
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HandsomeMan said:
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Nah I think you just find her annoying. Don't confuse bad character with annoying character.

She's one of the most annoying characters ever created which makes her one of the worst characters for me. It's as simple as that. If you will defend that pool of vomit then you're either a blind fanboy or have awful taste in characters.


You forgot "I think" at the start of your sentence. Likability is not a factor in how good a character is lol. I just find her a realistic character. What do you get when you make an egotistical brat overpowered? Chamo of course.

But no, I haven't read the LN, I just think this series is my AOTS judging by the writing quality.

P.S: Could you stop with the "shit taste' buzzword? Awful taste is close enough to it.
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Well Han's is off my suspicion list, But HOLY SHIT did i freak for a millisecond when i heard Han's Spout his Seventh Nonsense.

Chamo Might be Put off my suspicion as well just because she seems more Bloodthirsty than anything else (which is her means of escaping the Fog)But Until i see more i can't truly take her off Suspicion.


So those i Still Suspect are (bold being high suspect), Goldof, Nashetania,Mora, and Chamo.
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Well the vomiting is kinda ''disgusting'' but its also funny as hell and kinda original?I never seen a char like that lul.She even puts that thing in her mouth to vomit funny as hell.

Wonder if her ultimate move is summon some big monster by drinking laxative tea and pooping it haha.
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Frrrosty said:
HandsomeMan said:

She's one of the most annoying characters ever created which makes her one of the worst characters for me. It's as simple as that. If you will defend that pool of vomit then you're either a blind fanboy or have awful taste in characters.


You forgot "I think" at the start of your sentence. Likability is not a factor in how good a character is lol. I just find her a realistic character. What do you get when you make an egotistical brat overpowered? Chamo of course.

But no, I haven't read the LN, I just think this series is my AOTS judging by the writing quality.

P.S: Could you stop with the "shit taste' buzzword? Awful taste is close enough to it.

People like you really ruin the franchises for others. Get off your high horse, I can write what I want, especially in a discussion forum. Just read what you type and see how condescending you sound. Don't make Rokka no Yuusha be another series hated on like Fate by showing your cocky attitude. Your elitist attitude is not wanted here. And I never said your proclaimed "shit taste" buzzword, learn to read.
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You forgot "I think" at the start of your sentence. Likability is not a factor in how good a character is lol. I just find her a realistic character. What do you get when you make an egotistical brat overpowered? Chamo of course.

But no, I haven't read the LN, I just think this series is my AOTS judging by the writing quality.

P.S: Could you stop with the "shit taste' buzzword? Awful taste is close enough to it.

People like you really ruin the franchises for others. Get off your high horse, I can write what I want, especially in a discussion forum. Just read what you type and see how condescending you sound. Don't make Rokka no Yuusha be another series hated on like Fate by showing your cocky attitude. Your elitist attitude is not wanted here. And I never said your proclaimed "shit taste" buzzword, learn to read.


Wow, sorry bud. I didn't want to sound elitist in any way, and even after reading it, all I did was give my own justification and say that you shouldn't be insulting others because of there opinions by saying he/she has awful taste.

If I really sounded like that, then sorry. You can hate Chamo all you want.

P.S. I also hate Fate because of people like that.
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HandsomeMan said:
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You forgot "I think" at the start of your sentence. Likability is not a factor in how good a character is lol. I just find her a realistic character. What do you get when you make an egotistical brat overpowered? Chamo of course.

But no, I haven't read the LN, I just think this series is my AOTS judging by the writing quality.

P.S: Could you stop with the "shit taste' buzzword? Awful taste is close enough to it.

People like you really ruin the franchises for others. Get off your high horse, I can write what I want, especially in a discussion forum. Just read what you type and see how condescending you sound. Don't make Rokka no Yuusha be another series hated on like Fate by showing your cocky attitude. Your elitist attitude is not wanted here. And I never said your proclaimed "shit taste" buzzword, learn to read.

wtf is wrong with you ? this man told you the truth and you act all offended

badly written character =/= unlikable character
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Yeah, my favorite ED song <3

Now I'm sure that Maura is 7th (as I thought from beinging) . Chamo is just insane (and this is the only one character which I hate in this anime).
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juicykitten95 said:
HandsomeMan said:

People like you really ruin the franchises for others. Get off your high horse, I can write what I want, especially in a discussion forum. Just read what you type and see how condescending you sound. Don't make Rokka no Yuusha be another series hated on like Fate by showing your cocky attitude. Your elitist attitude is not wanted here. And I never said your proclaimed "shit taste" buzzword, learn to read.

wtf is wrong with you ? this man told you the truth and you act all offended

badly written character =/= unlikable character

I never said she was badly written. Did you even read my initial comment? Honestly, where do idiots like you crawl out from? "Worst" doesn't have to mean badly written in the first place, it can mean many other things, you plonker.
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Can anyone explain to me why Chamot acts this way? She is a child yet finds it normal to want to kill and torture people. Was she brainwashed or something? I don't get how someone like this who is this mentally off can function normally in society. Spoil it if you have to because I am trying to not have insane hatred for her character.
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