| it's not entirely carried by animation but much of it is. The only character who gets development is Tanjiro. Most other characters are just tropes. the villains are all the same with a sad backstory pasted to them and it doesn't even hit emotionally. And to top it off the story is just too simple, simple doesnt mean bad but if the story is simple there should be other things the anime has going for it but ds doesn't. dont get me wrong tho I like demon slayer but the criticism for it is valid. |
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| because while animation effect is 10/10 then the "story" and "characters" is 3/10 |
ktg said: Ginpachi_1234 said: curses are born from negative emotions of humans Humans are most true when they experience this negative emotions That's why curses are purest form of humans Hence mahito and other curses are fighting I find this reason to be better than any other reason, any Demon has ,in kny. Because this reason is the best when viewed from their perspective!!! Yeah, I know that, but that explains their existence, not there actions. The basic curses act like animals, that's okay, but high level curses can think like Sukuna, but we didn't get any reason to legitimate their behavior. Why is Sukuna toxic towards other curses while other intelligent curses work together? Yep, it's their personality. So, it is what I said. They are bad, because they are the bad guys. And even if I ignore this part, your point is still questionable, because you could interpret the demons as the curses. The demons are obviously created by Muzan, but they act that way because of people acted badly towards each other. The difference is, and that's why KnY is better in this aspect, you can see the human side of the demons. You can those bad actions toward them, so you can understand them. While JJK separate the bad emotions and the human side, which makes the curses less human, less deeper as characters. Or we could talk about Mahito too. If I remember correctly, Nanami said Mahito acted as a kid, implying he is new born. Which means their personality could change. Then why are the intelligent curses are so similar personality-wise? Exactly those negative emotions could have gave them deeper personality like it did in KnY. Yeah, the demons act similarly, almost everyone is bad, but the author gave them a reason. A reason you can understand, but you can't forgive what they did. Sukuna isn't even a curse... |
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| Don't get me wrong it is probably the most beautiful anime out there, but the actually important parts like the story and the characters are whatever, just very simple and boring in my opinion. Simple doesn't equal bad, but it doesn't do anything for me personally. |
  Even If We Painstakingly Piece Together Something Lost, It Doesn't Mean Things Will Ever go Back To How They Were - Guts  |
| Well the obvious reason is that ufotable can enhance a manga story into something better with their visuals, but overall arc may not be the best in the season as I'm waiting for one of the best ones to get adapted soon. |
| its because the story of kny is average but the animation if amazing |
| people who say that kimetsu is carried by animation alone don't know what they're talking about people in japan went to book stores and bought all available volumes back after season 1 had finished so the story is definitely good |
| These people prob doesn't know what visual story telling is lmao Does KnY needed a whole season worth of narration just like the manga counterpart (which is more akin to a novel btw cause of how long and convoluted the narration is with it's over explanation of things that's happening. It can give HxH a run for it's money due to how long it is lol) when it can do those things with the animation and simple visual story telling. That's the truth. The visuals of KnY is related to it's story, hence if you remove the visuals from it, the story may look pretty standard monster of the week shit. What makes the story of KnY beautiful, cohesive, and even great sometimes is with it's ability to convey it's story through visuals. You know the shit, "a single picture tells a thousand words". It's just a matter of how much story are the audiences willing to understand. If they have the mindset of "oOoOhH tHe StOrY iS gEnErIc AnD bOrInG" then they'll prob take the visual story telling of KnY at face value, without any substance or depth to it. The characters are pretty separate thing altogether. Since people like to call them boring and generic without acknowledging what kind of characters are they or how well-crafted the characters are. Just by the names and designs, the characters convey so much of their personality, which is great for a shounen story. It's just that people don't bother to see and understand this. So yeah, idk if people look at the same anime when talking about KnY tbh. Most of their complaints just comes out as nitpicks that every other anime also have. |
 I wasted all my time in rewatching to the point of my rewatch total is higher than my overall anime total lmao |
-Elevate- said: people who say that kimetsu is carried by animation alone don't know what they're talking about people in japan went to book stores and bought all available volumes back after season 1 had finished so the story is definitely good People bought it and disappointed in the end. It was just hype. Even myself finished Demon Slayer manga after Season 1 to not get spoiled. But in the end, i was hugely disappointed with cliche and flat writing. I gave a lot of chances maybe it could getter but it got worse each arc. |
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| Well not really, I really like the fanservice also. |
Animefan13923 said: there are few reasons for thatI had seen KnY a year ago and have watched many anime since then and KnY is still a great anime for me.I want to know why some people say it's carried by the animation.They just ignore it's visuals, fights, development of story and characters, music and it's sad parts? _first of all there are people in this community who like to target popular shows to get some instant attention _Animation and music actually contributes the most in this anime and you can't deny it, story is kind of straightforward (if not particularly bad), ya characters are likeable but they are the only reason why the story moves forward....there is no significant world building if you consider the whole story. So ya some crazy animation with some good music and a huge likeable cast is what makes this anime popular. _Lastly I think after watching certain amount of anime, you will get to a point where straightforward shows with zero shock factor will not appeal you |
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| Back then when I watched Kimetsu no Yaiba for the first time, I was hooked because of the characters and comedy. I didn't even realize that it had outstanding animation since I watched it on phone (and vertically at that time). Now people say it carried by animation. But what they don't realize that most anime out there is also carried by the animation or at least blown in popularity after anime adaptation. I even read the manga and still enjoyed the series till the end. |
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| The problem is with the story, it has nothing in particular which stands out. Another point is the characters, Inosuke and Zenitsu are just annoying, Tanjiro is too kind to be true. The only character I like is prolly Rengoku. |
| I see KnY as like a MCU movie of a sort. People watch and enjoy it for the simple to follow story with good animation and music. I guess the constant moments of attempt at comedy (which is poor most of the time) is like a Marvel movie too. |
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| Aside from animation and overall production values it's an average shonen with usual tropes and cookie cutter characters there is nothing special about it. |
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| Because its narrative is bad and the characters are not that good. Tanjirou family died in the first episode, we barely know their names and all the time they come back trying to make an emotional scene, but we don't know those people. The family was so badly done that there's a frame in the manga where Tanjirou thinks about his family and the author didn't even draw their faces. The way the pieces of training happen is also bad. Tanjirou goes training > time skip > now he's several times stronger than before and he has new techniques, but we don't know about those techniques. Tanjirou is always learning something new from flashbacks, like Hinokami Kagura. It was so easy to make it believable. The first episode > Tanjirou spends time with his family > his mother warns him that he mustn't forget his family tradition > he goes outside and starts the dancing > spends the rest of the episode with his family > rest of the story > every once in a while he remembers his family tradition and dance again > fight against Rui he tries something that we would've seen in the story before. The arcs don't have a tangible goal. It's always just a fight. Tanjirou wants to turn Nezuko back into a human, but so far we didn't see anything that brought him closer to his objective. He needs to kill Muzan and he needs blood from the strongest demons. Spider arc did he get anything? Nope. Train arc did he get anything? Nope. Current arc he might get something? I don't know, but the way it has started is comic. Uzui goes to Shinobu's place and say "So, one of my wives is not answering my letters anymore, I think there might be a demon there, let's go" There's no objectivity so far. It's heavily carried by the animation. But most people accept those things, they don't care. Rengoku said "I'm your master now, Tanjirou" and that's enough. Now Rengoku is as relevant as Jiraya because they are both the main character's master. |
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| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| Unfortunately, if it wasn't for the build quality, this anime would never be so popular. Imagine that instead of Ufotable this series, for example, was made by the studio from Nanatsu no taizai. Nobody would watch it XD It's true that the first thing people think about Kny is not a great story or well-written characters (because that's just average here) but great animation. This tells a lot about how much a good or bad studio has an influence on an anime. |
| The story is average. Nothing too special about it. The characters are mostly flat and don't have a lot of depth to them. The writing absolutely sucks though. Plot holes are littered throughout the story, the story uses asspulls constantly (Deus ex Machinas, Power Ups coming out from nowhere, etc.). Its only saving grace is its visuals and soundtrack. If it weren't for ufotable's phenomenal direction and adaptation, this series would have easily faded into obscurity, because every other aspect of it is either average or flat out bad. Name positive qualities of it without mentioning the visuals or the soundtrack. Most other shounen have executed those qualities far better than KnY has, the only thing they fall short in is the visuals. KnY is looked down on by many members of the community for similar reasons that MHA is looked down upon for, since that is another series that is carried by visuals and soundtrack and is very weak in every other aspect. The other thing that's carrying it is the massive amount of characters, albeit never developed, that young teenage girls and "artists" love so much. Meanwhile other shows that aren't as visually appealing such as Black Clover and One Piece have much, much stronger storylines and characters as well as writing and worldbuilding. They offer much more in a narrative sense, and that's what truly matters. They also don't depend on trying to make the audience feel emotional to drive their story along. |
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| Lol. Animation alone simply can't carry a show. Besides animation, the execution and direction here is top notch. The story has a lot of heart in it. Even if the story is simple, it is still able to generate hype for the fights. It still brings immense enjoyment. You don't need complicated bs for a show to be good. Animation is this anime's most standout feature, sure. But, it's the other things working in tandem with it that elevate the rather simple and straightforward story to a high level. Haters can hate all they want. As long as people genuinely enjoy this series, that's all that matters in the end. |
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Phosphophyllita said: Tanjirou family died in the first episode, we barely know their names and all the time they come back trying to make an emotional scene, but we don't know those people. The family was so badly done that there's a frame in the manga where Tanjirou thinks about his family and the author didn't even draw their faces. I keep seeing that bullshit complain. His dead family aren't characters. This is like complaining about Luke Skywalker's dead family on Tattooine not being properly developed - they don't need to be. |
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bastek66 said: Phosphophyllita said: Tanjirou family died in the first episode, we barely know their names and all the time they come back trying to make an emotional scene, but we don't know those people. The family was so badly done that there's a frame in the manga where Tanjirou thinks about his family and the author didn't even draw their faces. I keep seeing that bullshit complain. His dead family aren't characters. This is like complaining about Luke Skywalker's dead family on Tattooine not being properly developed - they don't need to be. Then stop using his family as a plot device trying to make emotional scenes. I don't remember seeing Luke Skywalker having flashbacks with his family and George Lucas using all the cinematography language to tell you to cry |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Phosphophyllita said: bastek66 said: I keep seeing that bullshit complain. His dead family aren't characters. This is like complaining about Luke Skywalker's dead family on Tattooine not being properly developed - they don't need to be. Then stop using his family as a plot device trying to make emotional scenes. I don't remember seeing Luke Skywalker having flashbacks with his family and George Lucas using all the cinematography language to tell you to cry They are plot devices so why not use them as plot devices? Also Luke never cared about them that much unlike Tanjiro who respected highly Kamados and everyone who offends them makes his blood boil (like Enmu). |
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Animefan13923 said: I had seen KnY a year ago and have watched many anime since then and KnY is still a great anime for me.I want to know why some people say it's carried by the animation.They just ignore it's visuals, fights, development of story and characters, music and it's sad parts? Because aside the animation, there's nothing else. Characters are generic, fights are generic, plot is below average. Music isn't bad, but there's a limit how much an anime can get carried by it's animation and music |
Render_1 said: XNohaco2468 said: People likes to hate to populars animes. What is true is that DS has a more simple story, "simple doesn't mean bad". I don't think it's that people like to hate popular anime, I don't like most popular anime, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the ones that really stand out, the shows that are popular outside of the anime community, like demon slayer, aot, fmab etc tend to have worse written characters, plot, world building than some lesser known anime, or anime that people more in the community know about, this is by design, most people don't want that, they want mostly well written, maybe emotional anime with pretty nice animation (or if it's demon slayer insane animation), and big build ups and fight scenes, and that's absolutely fine, I'm not saying you are any worse for it, it's just not something for me, that's not what I look for in shows, so I don't think most popular anime are particularly great. >so I don't think most popular anime are particularly great You had it overall right. Except that AOT isn't a good example, it IS popular and it IS great. It's also the kind of example that destroys the "you must hate popular anime". Popularity doesn't make an anime good, but being popular doesn't mean it has to be shit |
| [quote=belial message=65505577] Render_1 said: >so I don't think most popular anime are particularly great You had it overall right. Except that AOT isn't a good example, it IS popular and it IS great. It's also the kind of example that destroys the "you must hate popular anime". Popularity doesn't make an anime good, but being popular doesn't mean it has to be shit fair enough, I haven't seen AOT was just giving examples, probably should have clarified |
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| As someone wrote: "story so far isn't anything special but pretty good for a shonen anime" That about sums it up. The story through S1 is all pretty standard shōnen, and it's specifically not especially complicated which I feel makes it an easy gateway show, but the execution is really well done. That execution of course, is inseperable from the animation, which includes timing for sequences, broad visuals, audio and all that jaz. Anyways, it's a good introductory shōnen plot-wise. And the animation is really worth it for anyone. It's certainly a decent show. |
| Because it is people mostly talk about the animation and the fights. no one was hyped about it when the manga came out, for example, chainsaw man everyone likes the manga and it's popular because it's good and the reason why it's good is because of the characters and the story and the art and the comedy is actually decent. If demon slayer was to be animated by an average studio then it would get no hype at all look at seven deadly sins, no one likes it because of the animation, no one cares about the story or the characters and that is a problem because modern anime fans ONLY care about the animation. The demon slayer fans are delusional by saying this is the best anime ever, the most they've seen is naruto and aot and like 5 other shounen. There are too many flaws like cringe comedy idk only a 5-year-old would laugh at this type of comedy like it's worse than teen titans go comedy, and that's me being honest. the characters have a personality of a blank sheet of paper like they only have like 2 character traits and they're not even interesting at all. the story is generic it's basically another fmab rip-off, not saying that fmab is a masterpiece but it's way better than this tho. The writing is terrible I mean most of the build-ups of every arc is so boring and bad like I've seen this being made many times but better, for example the train arc was basically the ant arc from HXH. The soundtrack is decent tho, Yuki kajiura is just a genius but it's not the best ost tho it's decent at best, other ost like pandora hearts and kara no kyokai will obliterate demon slayer's ost. but overall the animation is the only thing that the series has to offer aside from that everything is bad. |
| I like the show but let's be honest everyone who read the manga also agrees that the characters could have been handled better with more development and screen time. The pacing went too fast and the ending was a meme. When it comes to the story and characters it's barley a 5 or 6 imo. |
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