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| Is it just me or nothing significant happened in this episode? Lmfao. I guess it'll take 2-3 episodes before we can relate the episode 0 to this actual series. Lmao. |
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AKABoy123 said: Crispmj said: No, I just didn't like it. In my opinion it was just boring, chaotic and poorly realised. There was nothing interesting. Not a single thing that would make me want to watch the rest of anime. Idea with holes is just retarded, they live next door. What did YOU like about this episode? Agreed. I gave this episode a 3/5, but it's already on the chopping block for the anime I'm watching this season. I can barely consider it passable at this point. It's boring, nothing is explained yet nor making much sense, and the whole Nazi thing is one of the dumbest new/emerging tropes in anime. The only two things about this anime that I'm enjoying so far are the OP and the ED. I think praises can come only from people familiar with VN. Considering anime independently, it is not a good work at all. So far. ovy7 said: kdog1000 said: If anything I'm concerned that anyone found anything in ep 1 confusing compared to 0. Unless school itself is a confusing concept. Agree. God forbids for an anime to not tell you everything in the first episode. Guys, even the VN is confusing in the beginning. Like, I'm 70% done with it, and there are still a ton of mysteries. Don't worry though, everything (or at least some of the confusion) would be clarified in the following episodes. I can agree that the most appealing thing in anime is a well introduced mystery. It makes you wait for a next episode or if anime has finished airing you can watch whole 12 episodes in a row to find the answer. The problem is the mystery has to be introduced somehow. Here, after the 1st episode, we got some fragments and even worse they do not look interesting at all. I hope you are right and it will get clarified in next weeks. _MushiRock11_ said: Crispmj said: As an only anime watcher I have to say I don't get the idea of this anime yet. The mystery setup with knives, guillotine and some murder was more cringe than interesting. What is that hole in the wall supposed to mean? School life wasn't convincing at all. I don't like any of characters. They are so dull, unattractive. Especially those introduced at the end. 1/5 and the first candidate to drop in this season. Precisely, except that I won't be rating it a 1/5 or dropping it just yet. Far better than Episode 0 but still a fairly confusing and an everage first episode to start proceedings for Dris Irae. School-life setting and the characters of this show felt bland at best and a disappointing and underwhelming mystery effect of the guilotine and knives and all, like Crispmj earlier noted, left a bad taste. I didn't get the Opening scene though with all the monologues and then a fight out of the blue. I'm guessing that other person was the other roommate linking to our main character's apartment. Lol, those holes though. How on Earth have they not been kicked out of there yet? Moving on, I wonder who that spiritual girl is with the stitches around her neck. I'm guessing her head was chopped off with the Guilotine and hence that eerie song. Good thing about this episode though was that of the murder, similar to the deaths back during the days guillotines were used and the main character having a direct involvement into it some way or another. Best moment of this episode, hands down, goes to the ED xD, but it actually really cool as it gave off vibes from Youjo Senki which was another similar sort of an anime but was adapted brilliantly instead. On the other hand, the Op isn't too bad either and conincides with the mystery setting of this show. Overall, I don't know how I really feel about this show just yet. Might just stick around since this is one of the most popular and anticipated one of this Season. For now, a 3/5 is the best I can award to this episode. Hope it gets better from now on... Good points here. I agree 100%. Yet, considering the criticism from your opinion the rate you gave to the episode is over exaggerated :P And yes, giving a chance to 1-2 next episodes won't hurt. |
Crispmj said: AKABoy123 said: Agreed. I gave this episode a 3/5, but it's already on the chopping block for the anime I'm watching this season. I can barely consider it passable at this point. It's boring, nothing is explained yet nor making much sense, and the whole Nazi thing is one of the dumbest new/emerging tropes in anime. The only two things about this anime that I'm enjoying so far are the OP and the ED. I think praises can come only from people familiar with VN. Considering anime independently, it is not a good work at all. So far. ovy7 said: Agree. God forbids for an anime to not tell you everything in the first episode. Guys, even the VN is confusing in the beginning. Like, I'm 70% done with it, and there are still a ton of mysteries. Don't worry though, everything (or at least some of the confusion) would be clarified in the following episodes. I can agree that the most appealing thing in anime is a well introduced mystery. It makes you wait for a next episode or if anime has finished airing you can watch whole 12 episodes in a row to find the answer. The problem is the mystery has to be introduced somehow. Here, after the 1st episode, we got some fragments and even worse they do not look interesting at all. I hope you are right and it will get clarified in next weeks. _MushiRock11_ said: Precisely, except that I won't be rating it a 1/5 or dropping it just yet. Far better than Episode 0 but still a fairly confusing and an everage first episode to start proceedings for Dris Irae. School-life setting and the characters of this show felt bland at best and a disappointing and underwhelming mystery effect of the guilotine and knives and all, like Crispmj earlier noted, left a bad taste. I didn't get the Opening scene though with all the monologues and then a fight out of the blue. I'm guessing that other person was the other roommate linking to our main character's apartment. Lol, those holes though. How on Earth have they not been kicked out of there yet? Moving on, I wonder who that spiritual girl is with the stitches around her neck. I'm guessing her head was chopped off with the Guilotine and hence that eerie song. Good thing about this episode though was that of the murder, similar to the deaths back during the days guillotines were used and the main character having a direct involvement into it some way or another. Best moment of this episode, hands down, goes to the ED xD, but it actually really cool as it gave off vibes from Youjo Senki which was another similar sort of an anime but was adapted brilliantly instead. On the other hand, the Op isn't too bad either and conincides with the mystery setting of this show. Overall, I don't know how I really feel about this show just yet. Might just stick around since this is one of the most popular and anticipated one of this Season. For now, a 3/5 is the best I can award to this episode. Hope it gets better from now on... Good points here. I agree 100%. Yet, considering the criticism from your opinion the rate you gave to the episode is over exaggerated :P And yes, giving a chance to 1-2 next episodes won't hurt. Well, it's not like a solid 3/5 but more of a shaky and generous 2.5/5 from my part. I wouldn't consider this episode 'bad' or 'abysmal' but more of an 'average' level. |
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| Good animation and OST. But I still don't understand the story. |
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| I'm actually dreading episode 2. Because it's either going to establish the villain's intentions well Or it's going to attempt to do so in the worst way possible by cutting way too many lines of dialogue. It's definitely going to make or break the anime for people already complaining about it. And it;s likely going to be the latter. |
| The guillotine song became my new ringtone. I know no one asked...but it is. Also does anyone cringe from the over introductory spiel from the not neo-nazis towards the end of the episode? Is that a thing characters in the VN do? Also phone sex scene is pretty funny and realistic to actual high school humor for once. No overreactions, no extremely bashful To Love Ru MC, no overly possesive childhood friend screaming baka. Nice. Thanks anime. Someone on the writing floor "people watched" for once. Blood blood blood... |
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| Episode0 was decent enough... But, as I feared, the focus switch to the hero is BORING. 1/5 episode. Just awful. Hopefully the 2nd episode will get things going again, else I will be dropping. |
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| So I guess Episode 0 was what happened in 1945 and Episode 1 is the present-day, if I'm correct? Kind of seems like a mess so far.. reminds me of Chaos;Child, but not as bad in animation or art. |
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Kaizoku-Otaku said: I am considering starting this anime, but I was wondering if I had to watch episode 0 or can I just start from episode 1? You might as well skip episode 0 at least until the ONA starts tbh Alternatively watching the DM side story from the VN might be the better alternative, since its far less of a mess, but even then it's not meant to be watched without familiarity toward the characters |
| By the way, this is the series' actual prologue (Which the anime more or less butchered.) |
| Definitely better than the prologue. Should've started this series without the prologue, really. |
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| Certainly alot better than the last ep. As someone who picked up the VN after episode 0 and is roughly halfway through the common route, this episode summed up everything well. I dont get why people hate Kasumi lol, i like her. Her voice in the VN is better tho. Glad they left in the part where Rea was making lewd sounds into the phone. The guillotine song was pretty good imo, especially in the end where the crowd started singing it. Anime-onlys can rest assured that it will get better next episode with some legit action. |
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| Well all I got out of that was the setting is a school. Pretty pointless episode. |
| less action unlike ep 0 |
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| Why did the first minutes (up until the go to the blade exhibition) remind me of Muv-Luv so badly? So, evil Nazi wizards whose most evil trade is their German name (right, Frau Schwägerin...) come to Japan to talk about killing people on the Rainbow Bridge. Should that make a German proud, after all? I'd say it was a good episode, but since I didn't understand the OVA at all, nor does this tell me why we're in Japan all of a sudden, I am still a bit lost. I know, keeping some info for creating suspense is fine, but if they don't throw in something for non-players of the VN soon... |
n8fury said: Why did the first minutes (up until the go to the blade exhibition) remind me of Muv-Luv so badly? So, evil Nazi wizards whose most evil trade is their German name (right, Frau Schwägerin...) come to Japan to talk about killing people on the Rainbow Bridge. Should that make a German proud, after all? I'd say it was a good episode, but since I didn't understand the OVA at all, nor does this tell me why we're in Japan all of a sudden, I am still a bit lost. I know, keeping some info for creating suspense is fine, but if they don't throw in something for non-players of the VN soon... It is chuuni anime. So yea, all the religious and mythology shit with obscure wording to sound badass that's chuuni. |
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| Watching this reminds me of when I watched Project K where I don't know what the hell is going on. The art is pretty. I read the VN a little so it's expected to see Kasumi and Rea in the first ep. Though I didn't expect Rusalka. I thought the first ep was good even though it seems to be targeted at those who actually played the VN. |
| I have no idea what is going on but shit look epic as fuck. |
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n8fury said: Why did the first minutes (up until the go to the blade exhibition) remind me of Muv-Luv so badly? So, evil Nazi wizards whose most evil trade is their German name (right, Frau Schwägerin...) Her name is Schwägelin, not Schwägerin as the CR subs said |
Insertanamehere said: n8fury said: Why did the first minutes (up until the go to the blade exhibition) remind me of Muv-Luv so badly? So, evil Nazi wizards whose most evil trade is their German name (right, Frau Schwägerin...) Her name is Schwägelin, not Schwägerin as the CR subs said We'd have to make a really long list if we were to talk about the mistakes in the CR subs. Most notable ones would be "Sturmscharfürer Marie" (when the german name isn't even said, AND even more important, he says Malleus, not Marie.), or the always literal translations (translators should know that's awful, but hey). Anyways... don't take the CR subs seriously. They are so poorly done that if you just pay attention at their voices (you don't even have to know much japanese), you'll notice right away. It's considered one of the hardest VNs to translate, and the anime doesn't change much the dialogues, so you'll have to expect poor translation quality and a far less enjoyable journey because of that if they don't improve (and I believe they won't). About the chapter itself... well, overall, the adaptation was quite good. As one would expect, there were a lot of missing dialogues and some scenes, but nothing life-changing so it's fine. And personally, I really liked the dream scene and how they kept the daily life scenes to show what Ren wants to protect. (Oh, and if you found that "cliché"... Yes, that's the joke.) Expecting next one already, I wonder how far they'll get into the story. |
Insertanamehere said: n8fury said: Why did the first minutes (up until the go to the blade exhibition) remind me of Muv-Luv so badly? So, evil Nazi wizards whose most evil trade is their German name (right, Frau Schwägerin...) Her name is Schwägelin, not Schwägerin as the CR subs said I was just wondering why this character got such an unfitting telling name. "Schwägerin" means "sister-in-law". Krystalwitch said: About the chapter itself... well, overall, the adaptation was quite good. As one would expect, there were a lot of missing dialogues and some scenes, but nothing life-changing so it's fine. And personally, I really liked the dream scene and how they kept the daily life scenes to show what Ren wants to protect. (Oh, and if you found that "cliché"... Yes, that's the joke.) Expecting next one already, I wonder how far they'll get into the story. It was cliché, but yeah, that's what you watch Anime for, isn't it. And in this case I agree that they couldn't have gotten across Ren's daily life and why he wants to protect it any better. I just hope they don't keep too close to the source no matter what. There are those VN adaptations where the action, which in the novel necessarily has to be described by the characters or the narrator, is described as an off-screen event still instead of being animated. Or you have dumb fillers like the famous "let's all stop and let the villain explain his evil plan"-scene before the final battle. Dies Irae so far did a good job avoiding those mistakes, especially with the fight scenes in the previous episode. As I said, I just hope they keep it that way. |
n8fury said: I was just wondering why this character got such an unfitting telling name. "Schwägerin" means "sister-in-law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Maria_Schwegelin |
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ShieldKnight said: n8fury said: I was just wondering why this character got such an unfitting telling name. "Schwägerin" means "sister-in-law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Maria_Schwegelin One never stops learning. Thanks! |
| Not sure how to feel about it yet, episode 0 was very different, this seems like another setting, but I guess everything will come together. |
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| I might be a little late, and this might be the wrong thread, but I like to point at 2 special moments in ep0 that are easy to miss: As a history geek and fellow german, Iam more than happy to deliever some background information for the upcoming episodes, just hit me up with a message. Dunno if that kind of detail is welcomed in an discussion thread. The Song that the scary one-eyed(didn´t catch her name) hums is called Hänschen klein, a famous german folk/child-song.  Knowing the lyrics, the scene becomes so much scarier. TLDR: the song is about homesickness. Another moment were I have to acknowledge the amount of detail. The Quadriga on top of the Brandenburg Gate was missing:  Sorry for the double/xpost And to finally add something usefull about ep1: Ayase Kasumi was annoying enough to contine the show on my part. "Some swords really do look like video game weapons, huh?" Just knowing, that I watch an animated version of an novel, were the fictional character believes that the stuff in fictional-world fictional-videogame is the real deal, and not the swords that they´re based on...you know, that leads to some headache. @ShieldKnight @Krystalwitch Thank you very much for that input, subs wronged me to. Was already wondering to what plottwist Schwägerin leads. |
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| Oh boy, this looks fun, dark, cool, and edgy as heck, but in a good way. The characters aren't super annoying or anything, but at most, just the right amount of annoying, so I can't take this too seriously, but just seriously enough... |
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Dustbreath said: I might be a little late, and this might be the wrong thread, but I like to point at 2 special moments in ep0 that are easy to miss: As a history geek and fellow german, Iam more than happy to deliever some background information for the upcoming episodes, just hit me up with a message. Dunno if that kind of detail is welcomed in an discussion thread. The Song that the scary one-eyed(didn´t catch her name) hums is called Hänschen klein, a famous german folk/child-song. Knowing the lyrics, the scene becomes so much scarier. TLDR: the song is about homesickness. That's neat, I actually missed that both in the VN and here despite the song explicitly being used in a seperate instance, I guess the melody just slipped my mind. n8fury said: I was just wondering why this character got such an unfitting telling name. "Schwägerin" means "sister-in-law". Shieldknight already linked it but yeah her name is based off SchwägeLin or Schwegelin, not SchwägeRin, from the historical person, that was one of many fumbles on Crunchyrolls part, including, as Krystalwitch said, the rather serious gaffe of putting Marie as Rusalkas LDO title, when it is Malleus. And of course, claws and fangs of "a beast", as if it were a dog or something lol, instead of "the beast" (in the same way you'd refer to the beast of the book of revelation). |
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E96825 said: ovy7 said: Without going into spoilers: Ren (the MC) and his friends = the good guys Those at the end (in the bridge scene) = bad guys Neither Ren nor his friends are good guys, Ren only cares about himself and his ideal world while Shirou doesn't care about anything really same applies to Ellie, Ren only fights because people threaten his life and because it's just his role. Kei is a neo-nazi that has killed thousands and Rea is... Rea. Marie and Kasumi are the ones that could be considered good people. I wrote the simple version. The thinks are actualy way more complicated than that in the VN, I know, but I didn't wanted to go into spoilers. Dustbreath said: I might be a little late, and this might be the wrong thread, but I like to point at 2 special moments in ep0 that are easy to miss: As a history geek and fellow german, Iam more than happy to deliever some background information for the upcoming episodes, just hit me up with a message. Dunno if that kind of detail is welcomed in an discussion thread. The Song that the scary one-eyed(didn´t catch her name) hums is called Hänschen klein, a famous german folk/child-song. Knowing the lyrics, the scene becomes so much scarier. TLDR: the song is about homesickness. That really sounds much scarier knowing the character's past. |
ovy7Oct 15, 2017 11:31 PM
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ovy7 said: That really sounds much scarier knowing the character's past. @Insertanamehere @ovy7 It´s like a gang of kidz forming a circle and singing Frère Jacques in slowmotion... |
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Dustbreath said: ovy7 said: That really sounds much scarier knowing the character's past. @Insertanamehere @ovy7 It´s like a gang of kidz forming a circle and singing Frère Jacques in slowmotion... Frère Jacques was one of the first songs we learned in German in primary school and we uses to sing it out loud in a choir. Your image of children forming a circle and singing it in slowmotion sounds like a horror movie setup. |
ovy7Oct 16, 2017 12:19 AM
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ovy7 said: Your image of children forming a circle and singing it in slowmotion sounds like a horror movie setup. Excatly...good thing I forgot wich horror movie, thoose kidz giving me the creep! Somehow I always picture the twins from shining to this song. While we are speaking of kids, the Lebensborn from ep0 was not mentioned b4. Knowing the background does make intresting promises towards the story(not that I know the original novel). Riza 'Babylon Magdalena' Brenner did strike me as a 'motherly' character. Just how she act/speak/look/clothes - first thing comes to mind is 'motherly' on my end. Anyone else got the same vibe? The history of Lebensborn is___I don´t have a word for it___, put all the evil things you heard about the 3rd Reich or the SS, increase it by a tenfold, and you got a glimpse of the horror they put on young children and their families. TL:DR Super-Nazi-Breeding-Programme including the abduction of (foreign)babys, brainwashing the young, and training the grown up to become future Super-Soldiers and mothers for the Reich. We are not speaking HitlerYouth or League of German Girls here, we are speaking Nazi-orphanage-horror-show. With Nazi-training methods. Basicly 'carrot and stick' without the carrot. SO yeah, that 20 seconds screentime our heartfull(?) mother Brenner had, did promise alot towards the story. At least I picture some of the characters towards the end of ep0 as offspring from the programm, I dunno... |
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Dustbreath said: ]ovy7 said: Your image of children forming a circle and singing it in slowmotion sounds like a horror movie setup. Excatly...good thing I forgot wich horror movie, thoose kidz giving me the creep! Somehow I always picture the twins from shining to this song. While we are speaking of kids, the Lebensborn from ep0 was not mentioned b4. Knowing the background does make intresting promises towards the story(not that I know the original novel). Riza 'Babylon Magdalena' Brenner did strike me as a 'motherly' character. Just how she act/speak/look/clothes - first thing comes to mind is 'motherly' on my end. Anyone else got the same vibe? The history of Lebensborn is___I don´t have a word for it___, put all the evil things you heard about the 3rd Reich or the SS, increase it by a tenfold, and you got a glimpse of the horror they put on young children and their families. TL:DR Super-Nazi-Breeding-Programme including the abduction of (foreign)babys, brainwashing the young, and training the grown up to become future Super-Soldiers and mothers for the Reich. We are not speaking HitlerYouth or League of German Girls here, we are speaking Nazi-orphanage-horror-show. With Nazi-training methods. Basicly 'carrot and stick' without the carrot. SO yeah, that 20 seconds screentime our heartfull(?) mother Brenner had, did promise alot towards the story. At least I picture some of the characters towards the end of ep0 as offspring from the programm, I dunno... I would say in a spoiler tag how much right you were . If you are interested in this Lisa Brenner, then I really recommend you to read the visual novel. The first route explains more about her past than the route the anime adapts (and the VN is really good). Dies Irae builds its background using real history events and people (like Reinhard, Rusalka, Karl Kraft - I think-) |
ovy7Oct 16, 2017 3:45 AM
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| Episode 00 = didn't understand Episode 01 = didn't understand Oh My! What a predicament! 0/5. |
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| All these back and forths between the "I don't understand" people and those who enjoyed the episode makes for an interesting discussion, actually. How many people here prefer when an anime holds your hand throughout and explains everything as quickly as possible, as opposed to an anime that goes out of it's way to keep you in the dark about what's happening until they feel the time is right? Both have their good and bad points. |
| Voice Acting = A- OST = A++ Animation = B- Characters = C-- Story = C- Overall = C- |
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kdog1000 said: All these back and forths between the "I don't understand" people and those who enjoyed the episode makes for an interesting discussion, actually. How many people here prefer when an anime holds your hand throughout and explains everything as quickly as possible, as opposed to an anime that goes out of it's way to keep you in the dark about what's happening until they feel the time is right? Both have their good and bad points. I can't remember an anime that hold my hand and explained everything as fast as possible. From a writing point of view, this would give me so much exposition that I'll probably just drop instantly. On the other hand, I like when an anime leaves things in the dark and doesn't spoil the mystery in the first episodes. For example, Steins;Gate got me hooked because the first episode made me say "wtf just happened". |
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| Not bad, I liked how in the anime Marie actually sings the song of the guillotine in a way you can say it's really a song, in the VN it seemed like Marie was just saying those words like a robot would do, I hope they just thought it would be ok to make it sound like an actual song and this doesn't mean that |
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