| Honestly, I agree. While it seems like it's something overly specific, it really isn't. It's capable of being a broad genre much like "fantasy" and "supernatural"; animes that share these genres have similar themes, but are usually still quite different from each other. We already use highly specific tags like "vampire" and all that jazz. Adding another specific-yet-broad tag can only be helpful to isekai enthusiasts. Don't see the harm in it when we have lots of other tags that you could argue are excessively specific. |
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Just like space, school. It's a mistake to think MAL's categories are genre tagging. Among all the tags that the site calls genres about a quarter are actual genres and even those are very broad and are used loosely. Like 80% of the 'historical' stuff are actually fantasy, not even set into the historical times of the real world. And most of the rest are fantasy set in the real world. There are no genre for magical girls either which is a pretty anime specific genre. The combination of Magic and Shoujo is not that. Shoujo is a demografic and Magic is a setting element. The problem with tagging is not just the absence of specific 'genres'. It really needs to be remade from scratch. |
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Heldengeist said: Just like space, school. It's a mistake to think MAL's categories are genre tagging. Among all the tags that the site calls genres about a quarter are actual genres and even those are very broad and are used loosely. Like 80% of the 'historical' stuff are actually fantasy, not even set into the historical times of the real world. And most of the rest are fantasy set in the real world. There are no genre for magical girls either which is a pretty anime specific genre. The combination of Magic and Shoujo is not that. Shoujo is a demografic and Magic is a setting element. The problem with tagging is not just the absence of specific 'genres'. It really needs to be remade from scratch. Space & school are usually at the very least also an important theme whenever they're here. Isekai is usually not even relevant as a main theme in the story, only here to set up the initial situation and not used 95 % of the time (baring cases where they move regularly between the two, like Gate for example). Same for mahou shoujo, it's usually a main theme of the story. So Isekai is worse by far as a tag. |
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| @Zefyris Mahou Shoujo is not a single bit less important than Mecha, Vampire or Demons. As for Isekai, it would also make it easier to look for a specific kind of anime and it's really popular lately so a lot of people would benefit from having it. And since the majority of the tags are not genres, this could be added too. |
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Heldengeist said: @Zefyris Mahou Shoujo is not a single bit less important than Mecha, Vampire or Demons. As for Isekai, it would also make it easier to look for a specific kind of anime and it's really popular lately so a lot of people would benefit from having it. And since the majority of the tags are not genres, this could be added too. My point was actually that Mahou shoujo was usually very important as a main theme in stories, CONTRARY to isekai. So of course I agree that mahou shoujo is an important theme. |
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MMemiMMei said: HisokaxMeruem said: then why are there tags like demon, vampire etc ? every season has 1-2 isekai's atleast right now, it should be a tag since this trend wont stop just like the superhero trend. That's the problem. Pointless tags, if demons are into then why just not "Supernatural" tag instead of adding another one? Isekai tag are implied that we can say the same as: Koi no uso have kissess, then needs a "kiss" tag. Also needs a "trash ending" too. Romance series are explicit that will have that kind of actions, it is not necessary but it's implicit in them same as "Supernatural" tag have with demons, vampires and ghosts and blahblahblah. The problem with your statement is that there are already MAL genres for specific tags. Also equating Isekai to something like kiss is a false equivolancy. Kissing is fundamentally specific. Most romance anime will at least get that far. Isekai not only refers to the main character being displaced into another world, but it also comes with its own set of tropes that diverge far enough from traditional fantasy tropes that it should get its own tag. Cars is a tag Demons is a tag Vampires is a tag Why isn't Isekai a tag? This site used to be more flexible. Its not just anime entries that could find this useful. There are TONS of Isekai manga/LNs that are in the database in MAL. I'd wager that at this point, it would be a far more useful tag than something like vampire or cars. |
changelog said: I'm a bit disappointed that no DB mods have replied to this thread. Even if they don't agree with adding an Isekai genre or for whatever reason they can't, at least a reply to the people who are requesting it would be greatly appreciated. hopefully a mod can provide some feedbacks i made this suggestion purely because I think it would be helpful since many new anime fans are introduced to the isekai element and many of them have been asking for similar anime; adding this genre would save the troubles for them to ask or carefully read through recommendations arguments aside, I don't think adding a new genre would bring any harm |
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changelog said: I'm a bit disappointed that no DB mods have replied to this thread. Even if they don't agree with adding an Isekai genre or for whatever reason they can't, at least a reply to the people who are requesting it would be greatly appreciated. You mean all one moderators ? |
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| Merged workinHikikomori's thread "Add an isekai genre?" |
ArkPrevails said: Well, as I see, MAL started to revise it's genre tags in some way. Meaning it's slapping ecchi tags left and right on anime that didn't have it before. Not just recent additions, even for decades old stuff. I don't think this is the right way to clean up the tagging system. Ecchi was already the second worst, most inconsistently used one after historical and this won't help.I still agree with this suggestion but will anything happen? Probably not |
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| ive suggested this before some people agreed and some did not, saying isekai is a setting rather than a genre or even subgenre but the same can be said to school/space etc and those you just said are simply tags yet they are considered genres |
MAYOISM said: ive suggested this before some people agreed and some did not, saying isekai is a setting rather than a genre or even subgenre but the same can be said to school/space etc and those you just said are simply tags yet they are considered genres I'd have to agree with these people although, Mayo, I can definitely see where you and OP are coming from |
| may as well tag it as ' generic ' |
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| If we're makign this a genre tag, be ready to see many mahou shoujo like nanoha and consorts, escaflown, 12 kingdoms, and a massive amount of older titles receiving it. Whereas SAO and any VRMMO setting would NOT get it as it's not isekai but game ten'i. Which brings me to ask, would having such tag really help peoples finding what they want in the database.As remember, a tag is here to facilitate research and quickly finding what you like or dislike. Are anime like Nanoha,Slime, Youjo Senki, Girls Bravo, 12 kingdoms, NGNL, Honzuki no gekokujou, smartphone, ima soko ni iru boku, Gate, Magic Knight Rayearth, Grimgar, Devil is a part timer, Mär, KonoSuba, Excaflowne, Tsubasa Chronicles, Zero no Tsukaima, Fate/Kaleid, Kyou kara Maou!,Fushigi Yuugi, Mondaiji reaaaaally a logical list of anime that should be linked together by the same tag? Would that ease the search for anyone, or ease what to avoid in reverse? Because remember, isekai is just the fact that there's another world and the fact that there's a way (through summon, gate, reincarnation, possession of another body...) to go from one to another and that someone did it or will do it. If there's no point in adding the tag to help, then don't add it. I know there's some tags already that are not genre but either content, demographics or settings on MAL, yes. Does that mean we should add more? I don't see the logic in there. |
ZefyrisMar 19, 2019 10:47 AM
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HisokaxMeruem said: Zefyris said: its not only about anime..., i am reading 25 isekai manga right now, and there are tons more. I find them on the pages where I'm reading it because it has it as a genre, but its impossible to find them here trough normal means without knowing the exact name of it. Lets not even take the novels into account, because there are so many that u cant even count it. (every single Isekai manga I am reading could I only find because it had a tag for it)If we're makign this a genre tag, be ready to see many mahou shoujo like nanoha and consorts, escaflown, 12 kingdoms, and a massive amount of older titles receiving it. Whereas SAO and any VRMMO setting would NOT get it as it's not isekai but game ten'i. Which brings me to ask, would having such tag really help peoples finding what they want in the database.As remember, a tag is here to facilitate research and quickly finding what you like or dislike. Are anime like Nanoha,Slime, Youjo Senki, Girls Bravo, 12 kingdoms, NGNL, Honzuki no gekokujou, smartphone, ima soko ni iru boku, Gate, Magic Knight Rayearth, Grimgar, Devil is a part timer, Mär, KonoSuba, Excaflowne, Tsubasa Chronicles, Zero no Tsukaima, Fate/Kaleid, Kyou kara Maou!,Fushigi Yuugi, reaaaaally a logical list of anime that should be linked together by the same tag? Would that ease the search for anyone, or ease what to avoid in reverse? Because remember, isekai is just the fact that there's another world and the fact that there's a way (through summon, gate, reincarnation, possession of another body...) to go from one to another and that someone did it or will do it. If there's no point in adding the tag to help, then don't add it. I know there's some tags already that are not genre but either content, demographics or settings on MAL, yes. Does that mean we should add more? I don't see the logic in there. Btw, by your logic, no tag should exist, school is just the fact that a school exist, action is just a fact that action exists and so on. What you are saying just doesnt make any sense. I'm asking you here if isekai is coherent enough as a tag to be useful, not if we should have tags. You haven't answered the question. To me one major reason peoples think isekai should be a tag is that they don't realize how much stuff categorize at isekai setting and how extremely varied in genre those stories are. If you think that when you enter a research with Isekai, finding the kind of list I wrote down above would be useful to you, then nothing stop you from saying it. i'm understanding that with the current tag, you're struggling finding the type of story you want. But do you realize that the type of story you want may be only a small part of what would be listed as Isekai when you enter that research? Especially if we're adding manga and novels, this is going to be crazy varied. So what I'm saying is, there's probably better tags than isekai to help you. What kind of stories do you like? |
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| There was already a similar suggestion I made a while ago: Sort by Source type. If you can filter out light novels sources from search you have essentially removed all isekai, except maybe 2 or 3 manga originals that happen to be isekai, but they are so rare that it doesn't matter. |
| No genre changes are going to happen since MAL is only getting bugfixes every now and then. (Like very few years once some stuff got hacked they fix it like last year with the long downtime.) New features won't get added anymore. (Finished development. Like with an old windows version that only gets security updates.) [Well ... besides the stuff they add to try using some cash. (Supporter option and that manga selling store.)] Befor "adding" anything the whole system needs to revamped. We don't really have 'genre". More like contend indicators. (The requirements to add something arent 0 but they are still pretty low.) |
| i honestly have to agree, especially since we have a Genre like "Dementia" like come on, there are more isekai than Anime with the Dementia tag |
| Agreed, since the genre has expanded all these years. |
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| Merged every thread I could find on this. There might be a couple out of order posts. |
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| Makes sense and it would make it a little easier to discern (and therefore avoid) it at a glance. |
changelog said: Why hasn't MAL commented on this yet? It's a suggestion that has been in such high demand so the least the community deserves is a response as to why it hasn't been implemented yet. because they dont have a good reason to say No, but it implies Work and no one likes Work i mean with tags like Demons, Dementia, School, or other shit Isekai should be a tag, really. i also enjoy them but they do tend to have rather generic story-lines still they are way too overhated by a vocal minority |
| "Isekai" is already seen as a genre of anime in our community- it is a relatively new genre of anime, however it seems like it will stay as each season at least 3 new Isekai appear and they are often the most popular shows airing at the time. Isekai is described to be when the main protagonist is somehow transported into another world that is different from their own. They might be trapped in this world against their will, end up in this world after reincarnation when they die, or any other option. They might be aware this world existed previously or not, (i.e it may be a videogame world they become trapped in such as "SAO" and "Log Horizon"). Isekai should be added as a genre to the database. If you agree please reply to this forum so it stays relevant and someone who can help add this can see it! thank you uwu |
SeijatachiiiiApr 19, 2019 7:50 PM
| Like you said, " it is a relatively new genre of anime". I google top 100 *insert random genre* anime of all time and it came up but can't find top 100 isekai anime anywhere so we should probably wait for it to be more relevant for it to be an official genre on MAL |
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iLbcoVE said: It's really not just limited to anime though. There's a shit ton of LN and manga isekais that you could ever imagineLike you said, " it is a relatively new genre of anime". I google top 100 *insert random genre* anime of all time and it came up but can't find top 100 isekai anime anywhere so we should probably wait for it to be more relevant for it to be an official genre on MAL |
| Isekai is limitless. It needs to be official. |
EGOIST said: It's really not just limited to anime though. There's a shit ton of LN and manga isekais that you could ever imagine but let's say there're 100 people into anime, how many do you think will read novels and mangas rather than watching animes |
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Phoenix_Haze said: Yes, many people wants this. To be fair, MALs taggging is not genre tagging and very inconsistent so it needs to have a serious overhaul AnimePlanet style (also it's funnny that MAL has "list" in its name nad AP has better custom list options).I would love to have an Isekai Genre filter. Why this isn't a thing already I can't understand. Slowly my list starting to turn into a MAL in MAL as I'm starting to make up missing features, like for example more specific tagging such as isekai. |
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